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Packers 19 - Broncos 13 -- Post Game Quotes

HEAD COACH MIKE SHANAHAN --

General --
"That's a tough one to lose.  We had our opportunities.  Any time you're one-for-four in the red zone against a team that's five-and-one and playing pretty well it's hard to win those types of football games.  We still had a chance.  Obviously, they made the big play in overtime.  It was an excellent throw by [QB] Brett [Favre].  It's one of those plays that has to be perfect.  They were right on the money, and as I said earlier, we had our chances, but we weren't able to close the deal."

On the Third-and-One Play at the End of Regulation --
"They were playing bracket coverage and usually you have a chance there, especially with third-and-a-yard you have a chance to kill it.  If you do make it, obviously we didn't make it, and you've got to tie it up.  You may catch them by surprise - not expecting a run in that situation, especially when they are bracketing the outside receivers.  They did a good job up front of stuffing it.  Obviously, we didn't make the play."

On RB Selvin Young's Performance --
"Well, I've got to take a look at the film, but I thought he did a very good job for his first game.  I thought he came back in the second half and made some plays.  Of course that one penalty we had took back a long yarder [long gain].  That's what you've got to do against a defense like that, which has an excellent front four.  You're not going to get some big plays, but every once in a while you've got to take advantage of it.  I thought we had one but they called it back."

On the Fumble at the Goal Line in the Second Quarter --
"You know I couldn't tell [if it was actually a fumble].  Anytime you get the ball down there, you have to be able to get points, obviously a touchdown, but I couldn't tell exactly what happened."

On the Green Bay 79-yard Touchdown Pass --
"They're going to get some big plays, and I thought we were moving the ball extremely well on the first couple drives and obviously they tied it up with that big play.  Then I believe in the first half we were 0-for-3 in key third downs.  On the last drive, I was pleased that we showed some poise, we made some plays when we had to make them.  Unfortunately, we couldn't put it away."

On the Fourth-and-Seventh Decision to Punt instead of Attempting a Field Goal --
"Well, from 55 yards, with over eight minutes left - I thought we had a chance to push them back, and luckily we did.  When the ball's at the 20 yard line, obviously you think twice, but it was a great kick to the three-yard line and that's what you're hoping for with that much time left.  The wind was blowing a little bit, and a 55-yarder, and I'm saying, `Hey, that's when the percentages are going the other way'."

On Red Zone Offense Mentality --
"Well, there it's a little bit different - you're dealing with the clock with no time-outs, you've got 24 seconds.  The first one was a fade, obviously if you do run the football, and you don't get the first down, you have to do what we did.  You have to kick the field goal and if you do you have to be able to spike it, and you've got two plays left.  Last week we were three-for-three [in the red zone], this week we were one-for-four, so we didn't get it done.  That's something that we've worked on.  If you want to be a good offensive football team, you've got to score in the red zone. Any time you're 25% [success], that's not good enough."

On DE Jarvis Moss Being Inactive --
"After last week, it looked like he was a little bit beat up.  We wanted to give [DE] Simeon [Rice] a chance.  We did it after looking at the film."

On Green Bay Running the Ball --
"I thought they'd try [running the ball a lot].  I was just reading the articles during the week.  They were trying to establish the running game a little bit, and trying to take some of the pressure off [QB] Brett [Favre].  That's not surprising."

On Not Playing RB Travis Henry --
"I can't say he wasn't ready to go, so hopefully he'll be ready for next week."

DENVER BRONCOS PLAYERS --

QB Jay Cutler --


General --
"I wish I had a couple of throws back, but you can't play like that against a good team and win. I missed that one throw to [WR] Brandon [Marshall] and I wish I had that one back. It's a play that would have won it, and it would have iced it for us."

"We have a lot of talent and a lot of veterans that are hungry. We just have to get back at it and go from there."

"A QB like Brett Favre has been doing this his whole career. This was a tough one to take."

On the Fumble on the Packers One-Yard Line --
"Me and [C] Chris [Myers] just mixed it up. That's been a problem for us all year, with turnovers in the red zone and penalties."


WR Brandon Stokley --

General --
"That's what happens when you don't finish things off in this league, it comes down to a coin flip."

"We just have to get back to work. We had a lot of games at home to start the season and now we have a lot of games on the road. It doesn't matter, we just have to play good football."


WR Glenn Martinez --

General --
"It's always good to get opportunites to play. If it would have come in a different circumstance it would have been more exciting."

"It was a fun game out there, that's what you live for. You want the ball in your hands, and I just want to help the team out in whatever way I can."

"We lost. We have to sink it in tonight and come out ready tomorrow."

On The Game-Tying Field Goal --
"It's becoming routine for us. We have confidence because we run these drills during practice."


LB Ian Gold --

On Green Bay's Game-Winning Touchdown --
"[CB] Dre [Bly] is a great cornerback. I'll take that guy any day. He's one of the greatest cornerbacks in this league."

On Denver's Run Defense --
"I thought we did a good job stopping the run all day long. We just have to shore up the pass."

On his cousin, Green Bay WR Greg Jennings' Game-Winning Touchdown --
"I didn't know whether to put my head down, or go and celebrate. "


DE Elvis Dumervil --

General --
"The only thing that we can do is look toward Detroit and get this thing going the right way. We play our best games under pressure. We just have to play hard in Detroit and play Broncos football."

On Denver's Run Defense --
"Our run defense is getting better. Our coverage is there and we were getting coverage sacks too, but we have to get all of the phases going at the same time."


CB Dre Bly --

General --
"I'm going to regroup, we had the game in our reach and we feel like we should have won."

On the Game Winning Touchdown He Defended On --
"I'm sad that we lost the game, but it was a great throw and catch. [Green Bay QB Brett Favre] Just made a great throw. Brett is a hall of famer and I'm not surprised."

"I've made a lot of plays in my career. I'm not going to hang my head. [WR Greg] Jenning's made a great adjustment to the ball to make the play."

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Good job
Good job as usual Guru...

FYI, my writeup will be late today, as I have an all-day meeting

by Jibblescribbits on Oct 30, 2007 8:34 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

BIG dissapointment with Gold's comments
1.  I agree that you can't pile on Bly for one blown coverage.  Even Bailey will miss one (he did this game), and the darn safeties were both playing run.

BUT...

  1.  Gold takes zero responsibility for poor tackling and a pathetic effort against the worst rush team in the NFL, and turns around and blames the game on the pass defense crew?
  2.  Didn't know whether to celebrate or hang his head?  You feel good for your cousin, but you DO NOT celebrate for your cousin after your team just lost a game.
Gold used to be one of my favorites.  He hasn't shown anything this year.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2007 9:03 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed - with some quibbles
1) I am pretty sure that Cox was back as the deep safety on that last TD but he could not get over to help out.

2a) I am hoping Gold was including himself in that pass defense comment.  There were a couple drives towards the end where Favre was able to move the ball pretty well with short-mid range passes against our zone.  

2b) The only reason the run defense was even semi decent was because they constantly had a safety in the box (which is what ended up killing them)

3) The ONLY reason to celebrate is if your cousin just set a momentous NFL record on the play.

Completely agree with your last comment about Gold.  I've been a big fan since he came out of Michigan, but this season has been a disappointment.

by MattR on Oct 30, 2007 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry.
I meant to reply to you, but hit the wrong "reply" button.  I'll get better.  My remark is below under "fair enough".
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2007 10:14 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha
if you go back and look at my early comments here, i think about a third of them are of the "aw crap, i meant to hit reply" variety :)

by MattR on Oct 30, 2007 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough.
It seemes to me that Cox was cheating close to the LBs, but I can't be certain.  Before the play snapped I was yelling, "Deep pass!" at the tv because it looked like everyone was playing close to the line.

You are right that we had to have Lynch in the box to help the run (and he wouldn't have been much help in deep pass coverage with his speed).  But the fact that we need Lynch in the box is a knock on Gold and everyone else on the front 7.

Man, I hope we figure out some way to get the rush defense in gear.  If someone as (formerly) good as Gold can't get it done, then what's the problem?

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2007 10:12 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Easy to get confused with Lynch out
Ferguson was up in the box taking his place.  Sometimes Foxworth was back at safety, sometimes he was playing the slot with Cox at safety and I think I saw some plays with Paymah and Foxworth both in the game (not sure if Cox was in as well).  This is why we need the coaches film ;)

And I completely agree about the rush D.  It is OK to bring an 8th man up in an obvious run situation or occasionally in some other situations.  But you can't depend on having that 8th man up to stop the run.  It does not matter who the corners, receivers or QB is.  Eventually they will get a deep pass if the guys on the outside are playing man to man with no safety help all game long.

by MattR on Oct 30, 2007 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right, and another thing too...
...moving Foxworth, Paymah and Cox around left us with either 10 or 12 guys on the field more than once.

Too much confusion there!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2007 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playcalling
I'm glad Shanny hit on the 3rd and 1 right away in his conference, but in general it seems like the offense goes into its shell in the red zone. They get SO conservative and predictable, it looks as if they're more afraid of not getting anything than determined to get 6. If they're bracketing the WR's, then why not hit the slot guy  on a quick slant? I've heard announcers all season saying Jay's got the strongest arm in the league right now, wouldn't that be a good way to use it? Some of you with better X's and O's than me, am I off with that? Maybe they need to try to hit the endzone from the 20-30. They just seem to get in the redzone and it's run, run, pass, FG. Whatever happened to play-action on 2nd down? I was left shaking my head at the end of regulation. That last series in the red zone was so disappointing.
Offseason '08 Priority: Break the bank to land UFA Michael Turner!!!

by MN Bronco on Oct 30, 2007 10:24 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I am just guessing
But I would say Cutler's inexperience was a key factor at the end of the game.  In the first half, the Broncos were going after the touchdown when they got into the red zone.  They ran a nice play action fake to get the TD to Scheffler.  On that last drive in the second half, it looked like they were trying to make sure that they at least got the tie.  The pass to Marshall was not a good one, but it seemed like Cutler was more worried about making sure it could not be intercepted than with giving Marshall a decent chance at the ball.  And that last play showed a real lack of faith in Cutler's decision making.  It was too far to expect to score a TD and even if he clearly got the first down they would not have been able to spike it before 8-10 seconds.  At best they would have had time for one more shot to the end zone so why not take that shot on third down?

PS.  If Marshall had just gone out of bounds a couple plays earlier with about a minute to go, time would not have been a factor.  (Of course then I would probably be complaining that Denver scored the TD too quickly giving Favre time to come back in the last 30 seconds of regulation)

by MattR on Oct 30, 2007 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Agree
Why not try that play-action roll-out to the wide side of the field that we've run before where the TE fakes the block then runs a shallow slant (probably not the correct term) for the pylon?  We seem to be pretty successful at it and it's pretty hard for the defense to stop, especially if we run it with either Scheffler or Graham.  Plus, if the TE is covered Jay can either throw the ball away and we can kick or he can try to make a run for the goal line on the outside.

Just thinking back, I think we've run that play twice already this year and scored both times (but I may be wrong).

by hai17 on Oct 30, 2007 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are not off at all.
I like to think I'm an Xs and Os guy, having coached defense for years at the high school level (with a lot of success I might add).  I'm not a salary cap expert, a draft expert, or frankly even an Xs and Os expert at the NFL level.  But I like to think I know more about playcalling and scheme building than some of the sports journalist "experts" out there.

And for what it's worth, I think you are right about the need to use the slot when the WRs are bracketed.  Yes, the slot guy is an excellent target in those situations, and not only because we are good at QB, but we have good depth at slot (Stokely if Walker is healthy, and Martinez if Walker is out).  And again, as I've pointed out, we have the TEs and even a good cathing FB in those situations.

Still, Jay did make a bad throw to get a TD in the redzone (the one that sailed just left in the endzone), and we fumbled on the goal line in a fluke situation.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2007 10:53 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Martinez
I didn't even think about the fact that Martinez would've been the slot guy in that scenario. What a great opportunity missed. He has been pretty clutch so far in getting many of his catches at key moments, how cool to get him a game winner, a la Rod Smith vs. the Redskins (seems like a million years ago). It's plays like that that can set a guy up to get his career rolling.
Offseason '08 Priority: Break the bank to land UFA Michael Turner!!!

by MN Bronco on Oct 31, 2007 7:17 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alot of football left to play
Am I upset we lost yeah I couldnt sleep  last night keep wishing jay and marshall hooked up in the endzone for the game winner but it didnt happend and we lost.  With nine games left I still feel we can finnish the year 11-5 or 10-6 we just need one of those win streaks we usually get at the end of years.  
Positives
Jay Cutler not throwing a pick.
Brandon Marshall and Selvin young will be stars
Red zone defense
Moving the football down the field

Negatives
Defense gave up two big plays
Red Zone offense
turnovers in red zone (Cant happen against good teams)
Penalties
Pass rush NONE!!!

Overall
We got alot of football left and I feel we can still make a run at this thing.  Its not over till the final second of the final game is expired.

by TommyTSlice on Oct 30, 2007 4:42 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

This was
a depressing loss. Now what do you guys say about my diary? Time to sit ole Rice and 'Berger.
"I do not want to hear about the Chargers. Norv Turner will not beat Bill Belicheck, people. Forget it."-TSG 10/29/07 MHR Radio

by broncodude793 on Oct 30, 2007 8:52 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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