Denver Broncos @ Oakland Raiders - 'All's Well If We Beat The Raiders' - Pre-Game Open Thread

by John Bena on Dec 2, 2007 11:17 AM MST in 2007 Denver Broncos Game Day Threads

Date: Sunday, December 2, 2007

Time: 2:05 p.m. MST

Teams: Denver Broncos (5-6, 2nd in AFC West) at Oakland Raiders (3-8, 4th Place in AFC West)

Location: Some Crap Hole in Oakland, CA

The Broncos are 5-6, only a game back of the division lead. While none of know how 2007 is going to shake out one thing is a certain -- All is well when you beat the Raiders twice. The Broncos have made a habit of beating the Raiders under Mike Shanahan, whose 20 wins in 25 tries puts him with only Joe Gibbs as active coaches with at least 20 wins over one opponent. There is no doubt Shanny puts a little more into this game, and there is absolutely no doubt that I love nothing more than going into the "Black-Crap Hole" and shutting those embarrassing, bad-excuse-for-fans up! Overall the Broncos have won 5 straight in the series, last losing to the Raiders in 2004, the infamous "snow game" in Denver. The Broncos haven't lost in Oakland since 2002.

The Previous Five Meetings --

at DENVER 23, OAKLAND 20 OT (Sept. 16, 2007) -- For the second consecutive week, Broncos K Jason Elam kicks a game-winning field goal with his 23-yarder in overtime giving Denver the victory... Elam finishes the game with three field goals, including a 20-yarder with 2:18 left in the game to tie the score at 20... Denver has an individual 100-yard rusher (Travis Henry, 128) and 100-yard receiver (Javon Walker, 101) for the second game in a row... The Broncos outgain the Raiders 441 to 253 yards, including a 260 to 53 passing yard advantage.. The 53 passing yards allowed by the Broncos marked the second-lowest total allowed by Denver in the Mike Shanahan era (1995-Pres.)... Shanahan passes Pro Football Hall of Fame coach Hank Stram to move into sole possession of 10th place in National Football League history in career wins with one team (125).

DENVER 17, at OAKLAND 13 (Nov. 12, 2006) -- Denver posts its fourth consecutive road win with its victory in Oakland, marking the club's longest such streak since it won six away games in a row in 1998... Broncos QB Plummer authors his 31st career game-winning or game-tying drive in the fourth quarter and 23rd "pure" comeback against the Raiders (Denver trailed 13-7 in the fourth quarter)... Broncos FB Kyle Johnson's 1-yard touchdown grab early in the fourth quarter proves to be the game-winning score... TE Stephen Alexander totals the most catches (6) by a Denver tight end in a game since the 2005 season opener (Jeb Putzier, 7 rec.)... Denver limits the Raiders to a 1.8-yard rushing average (26 att. for 46 yds.).

at DENVER 13, OAKLAND 3 (Oct. 15, 2006) -- The Broncos extend their regular-season home winning streak to 13 games with their win against Oakland... Broncos K Jason Elam moves into 10th all-time in NFL history in career points scored (1,589) with seven (2 FG, 1 PAT) against the Raiders, passing Al Del Greco... Denver limits the Raiders to 20 plays in plus territory (past 50-yard line) for a net gain of 31 yards... Denver allows only one third-down conversion in the second half for the fifth consecutive game... Broncos DE Elvis Dumervil (2 sacks) posts the first multiple-sack game by a Broncos rookie since Monsanto Pope had two against the Raiders on Dec. 22, 2002.

at DENVER 22, OAKLAND 3 (Dec. 24, 2005) -- The Broncos clinch their 10th AFC West title and first since 1998 with a victory against the Raiders on Christmas Eve... Denver also clinches the No. 2 seed in the AFC playoffs and a perfect home record for the fifth time with its win over Oakland... Denver RB Mike Anderson (46 yds., 1 TD) eclipses the 1,000-yard rushing mark for the second time in his career... Denver converts 50 percent or better of its third-down attempts for the second consecutive game (8-for-15 / 53%)... The Broncos outgain the Raiders 414 to 248 and hold the ball for 38:32... Oakland scores its only points on a field goal early in the fourth quarter.

DENVER 31, at OAKLAND 17 (Nov. 13, 2005) -- The Broncos improve to 13-4 (.765) all-time after the bye week with a win at Oakland, tying for the best such record in the NFL...Denver takes a 23-0 lead into the fourth quarter... WR Rod Smith becomes Denver's all-time leader in career touchdowns with his 66th career score coming on a 27-yard touchdown catch in the second quarter... Broncos K Jason Elam reaches 1,500 career points faster than any player in NFL history, doing so in his 197th career game... CB Darrent Williams records the longest interception return by a rookie in Broncos history with a 80-yard return in the fourth quarter off an errant Kerry Collins pass.

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Too Close For Comfort.

Looking at the trend, I hate to admit that the Raiders fan that's been trolling around here might have a point. Over our last four match-ups, our margin of victory has gotten smaller and smaller. Over the last three, we've won by an average of less than 6 points. In our first match-up this year, they took us to OT at home and won only because of a well-timed timeout. Maybe the Raiders have coming back up and/or we're coming back down... or maybe not! I still like Denver in this game, but it's no laugher. Go Broncos!

by ejruiz on Dec 2, 2007 11:57 AM MST reply actions

The laughing

only comes when we hand them their asses.

We are struggling too much to not take these guys seriously.

by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 2, 2007 12:10 PM MST reply actions

What internet sites will track the game?

The TV guide for my area shows that another game will be televised, any info on URLs for sites that track the game will be really appreciated.

"Just say no to melting" Nancy Reagan, Denver's new lead protection coordinator.

by Arctic Bronco on Dec 2, 2007 12:46 PM MST reply actions

I like nfl.com

I think other sites (ESPN, SI, some of the networks) do the same thing, but most people use nfl.com.

Hope that helps.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Dec 2, 2007 12:50 PM MST up reply actions

That Hurts...

I track the game right here, and this site allows you to talk about it with your fellow MHR brethren....

-TSG

www.milehighreport.com

by John Bena on Dec 2, 2007 1:42 PM MST up reply actions

I covered

this down below. Sorry, but your live blog's preeminence made it seem like a given, like air, water and sunlight.

Vital. Necessary. Irreplacable.

by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 2, 2007 2:06 PM MST up reply actions

Misunderstanding

I only use the gamecast at NFL to see the play by play visualy. It would be an empty excercise if I didn't also have MHR on my main window for the color commentary, interaction with other fans, as well as the play-by-play.

The gamecast is only the compliment to the main course at MHR. I keep both windows up at the same time. I apologize for not having made that clear. I assumed the commentator was already plugged in at MHR, and I regret the ommision.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Dec 2, 2007 2:12 PM MST up reply actions

The GGT (Guru Game Tracking) is great, but

I havn't seen other real time sites, just curious to see how they work. Last week Claaas was on MHR radio and gave some adivce on his viewing options, if he sees this post maybe he can share his links again.

"Just say no to melting" Nancy Reagan, Denver's new lead protection coordinator.

by Arctic Bronco on Dec 2, 2007 2:14 PM MST up reply actions

I think you're asking...

nfl.com has the best gamecenter, that updates the quickest with the most accuracy, but some of the widgets on the page don't always load right.

cbs sportsline also has a good system, but the play-by-play isn't as accurate, and the delay is more noticeable. It doesn't have as many problem loading the other teams scores and stuff.

And if you aren't already, I highly recommend viewing both sites with firefox or opera, instead of internet "exploder". Just friendly advice.

I would imagine that Foxsports and ESPN also have gamecenters of the games, but I have never had the urge to try either one out.

Also, Sirius radio is awesome, and NFL field pass is a decent deal at $3 a weekend (lump sum). Fieldpass is internet radio, with your choice of the home or away broadcast for every game.

Hope this helps.

by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 2, 2007 12:57 PM MST up reply actions