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Hey Raiders Fans -- Just Win Bay....REMEMBER!?!?!

There was alot to like about yesterday's win over the Raiders, and there is alot of work to do as we move ahead.  I usually wait to hear from some of you on your thoughts about the game before really beginning to break it down but I just couldn't help myself.  I am sick and tired of listening to everyone, from Mike Greenberg on Mike and Mike in the Morning, to Raiders fans and complete idiots all over the internet talking about how "lucky" the Broncos are, and how "devious" Mike Shanahan is.  A bit of advice for all of you -- shut the hell up!

JUST WIN BABY!!!  Remember??  That, of course, is the motto of the charcoal and gray and their satin jumpsuit-wearing, slicked back hair-havin', walker-usin' corpse of an owner.  What does that mean Raiders fans?  I know what it means.  Use anything within the rules to win the game, no matter how it looks or how pretty it is.  Penalties?  Ok. Turnovers?  Ok.  Throw a pick-6?  OK.  As long as you JUST WIN BABY!.

I guess it hurts when the same three word phrase is not only used against you verbally, but in such a way that rips a victory right out of your grasp and turns it into a beautiful defeat.  Were Raider fans thinking after Sea-Fat missed his second attempt from 52 yards that the Raiders had JUST LOST BABY?

I am usually not on to rub it in, even to our fiercest rival, but when I listen to all the BS coming out of the Bay area and beyond I just can't help my self.  Instead of focusing on all 53 yards of offense the Raiders generated through the air, instead of focusing on Sea-Fat actually missing the second attempt instead of doing what good kickers do, which is line up and make the damn thing, they choose to focus on the best coach they've had in the last 25 years and call him names, and say the Broncos were lucky.  JUST WIN BABY

The Broncos should have won the game handily, but chose instead to shoot themselves in the foot the entire third quarter.  A great time consuming, typical Shanahan drive to start the third quarter unravels with a penalty that negates a touchdown, then a missed field goal.  While I am still a firm believer in Jason Elam, he seriously needs to start burying field goals that have become his trademark.  20-3 in that situation basically puts the game on ice.  The miss gives the Raiders great field position which allows them the ability to try and get deep, which they do on the TD pass to Jerry Porter.

We have to start turning these field goal tries into touchdowns, like the drive right before the half.  Get 7 points in that situation and the halftime score is 21-3, three scores, and the Broncos get the ball to start the half.  A completely different mindset.  We allowed the Raiders to stay in the game and it nearly cost us.

But it didn't cost us.  Once again Jay Cutler, when he absolutely had to have it, did.  He made enough plays to go down the field and get the game tied, though the Broncos once again had a First and Goal and were only able to get 3.  Seven points there and we never seen a Sea-Fat field goal try.

That leads us all to the play.  I know most Raiders fans only have a 13" television in their parents basement to watch the game, but on my 61" HD TV I could clearly see the Side Judge come running in from the sideline signaling for the Timeout WELL BEFORE THE SNAP.  The referee is not responsible for getting Time Out calls, even on the field.  The defense would talk to the umpire, and both coaches can talk to their respective officials on their sidelines.  Shanahan called the TO with plenty of time to spare, and was fully within his right to do so.

That leads me to something else, for those of you who want to change the rule and not allow coaches to call timeouts.  What if the exact opposite happened?  What if Shanny had called time, a Sea-Fat missed the kick.  You wouldn't have minded that timeout at all.  Two-faced hypocrits!  You want to be disgusted that you lost your 15th straight divisional game, that's fine, but I thought you were better and more knowledgeable about the game of football to call the Broncos "cheaters" or say that the refs had it in for the Raiders.  That is the attitude that has gotten the Raiders into the predicament they are in -- 2-14, laughing stock.

Show some accountability, point fingers where they deserve to be pointed, and get a new friggin kicker.  Three misses last week, another this week and the Raiders are in a familiar position -- 0-2, tied for last place.

JUST WIN BABY....that's exactly what the Denver Broncos did.

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At work today I've been skimming the internets and it's just blah blah blah they were lucky blah blah blah Shanahan is bush league....finally a breath of fresh air.

All of a sudden it's bush league to ice the kicker?  Every fricking team in the league does it all the time.  It's not Shanahan's fault Lechler didn't hear the whistle because of the deafening roar of the fans.  But the whistle came in plenty of time.  Even the Raiduh's announcers heard it (watch the highlight video on nfl.com).  

I'm also tired of hearing about how the Broncos suck because they didn't blow out both teams.  Doesn't matter.  True, good teams take care of business and handily beat inferior opponents.  But good teams also have the ability to win the close ones when they don't have their best stuff that day.  They haven't been at their best at all this year, but they still got it done when it mattered and are 2-0.  

by Donkey on Sep 17, 2007 12:29 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Flappable
I heard whistles blowing around the time the play started and held out hope that a time out had been called.  When the cameras went to the sideline and showed Shanahan smiling, I knew things went as planned.  Great move.  Instead of going for the traditional move of icing the kicker well before the snap, he cut it closer.  Janikowski has never struck me as being mentally tough, and Shanahan was able to rattle him.

It was a perfectly legal move and the type of thing smart coaches do.  Mentally tough players are unphased by it.  But there are always players that can't hack it.

by Iguck! on Sep 17, 2007 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

O'Brien
Chalk another one up to Scott O'Brien. It's his philosophy that they wait until the last second to call the TO.

Nice hire, Mike.

MN

by MN Bronco on Sep 17, 2007 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raiders Fans
When I read your post I thought it might be a tad too emotional and inflamatory. But then I read some of the Raider "fans'" reactions to the game.

I can understand being upset and calling the other side cheaters. I can even understand letting a few explatives slip here and there. But some of those fans didn't just cross the line, they went so far out of bounds that I think your response suddenly seems more than gracious.

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 17, 2007 1:41 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Me? Emotional?
Trust me Jack, I think of you everytime I am about to start a rant and alot of time tone it down...This time, however, I could not.  At it's core this site is still a fan blog, and still based on pure homerism.  I like to keep some semblance of decency but at times let my passion for all thing blue and orange get the best of me....

Thanks for udnerstanding...

by John Bena on Sep 17, 2007 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me Too
Hey Guru, I understand. I read some of those postings by Raider fans on MSN and I was appalled. I thought your response was quite professional considering the provocation.

And I kinda like the homerism (is that a word?).

You Da Man, Guru!

by Trinidad Jack on Sep 18, 2007 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said
Well said Guru.

There is still an issue of stupid mental mistakes that I posted on the previous thread.  They might get away with mistakes against the Jags, but not against the Indys or SD.

The run defense is a concern too.  Jordan killed them on off-tackle running plays.  It's the exact same problem that they ran into in the preseason.  200 yards on the ground is embarassing.

by mdierk on Sep 17, 2007 1:47 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Rushing
The thing that worries me is the rushing defense in the second half. They had Jordan stuffed until the second half, then he ran wild on them. I think they were a bit tired, which concerns me.

by Jibblescribbits on Sep 17, 2007 2:09 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait til' next time
It will be interesting to see how effectively the Raiders and esp. Jordan run on the Broncos come December 2.  In the first half of this game Jordan ran for 47 yds on 11 carries (4.2/carry) with a third of those yards coming on the first run of the game.  Add the other 10 yards on 5 carries by Fargas and the Raiders only had 57 yards on 16 carries.  Denver's rushing D was looking good.  But on 4 drives in the second half and their one overtime posession Jordan was 14 for 112 yds with an 8yard average!!  The defense didn't look tired, but Oaklands playcalling did look sharp and very un-raider like, including some good third down calls and 24 yards on 4 carries from Jordan on 3rd down.  It looked to me like Denver's most troubling run stopping problems came when Oakland ran between the guards.  

But I think Denver saw enough in this game to be able to better prepare for Kiffen in the future, and we shouldn't forget that Jordan would be considered an elite NFL stud if he hadn't been injured last year.  In 2 games it looks like he's ready.

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 17, 2007 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cheating?
Thanks, Belidick. Now any time someone doesn't like how their team lost, it's going to be cries of "CHEATING!"

That call was completely within both the letter and spirit of the rules. The frustrating (or comedic, depending how you look at it) thing is there is no intelligence test administered before you can post on the internet. Clearly, there'd be very few raders fans around if there were.

MN

by MN Bronco on Sep 17, 2007 2:44 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

spell check
Please, can you just incorporate some version of a spell check into your commentary????

I really like to hear your insight, I do...but it's getting really old.

by dieffer on Sep 17, 2007 5:57 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh good, grammar police...
I suppose every site has to have one...

by ohnokoolaid on Sep 17, 2007 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

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