Jaguars @ Broncos -- Game Day Open Thread -- 4th Quarter

by John Bena on Sep 23, 2007 4:15 PM MDT in 2007 Denver Broncos Game Day Threads

Date: Sunday, September 23, 2007

Time: 4:05 p.m. ET

Teams: Jacksonville Jaguars (1-1) at Denver Broncos (2-0)

Location: Invesco Field @ Mile High -- Denver, CO

Broncos Seventh Drive cont...

--Time to find out if holding the Jags to a couple FG's will pay dividends...There is alot of time, and the Broncos justs need 2 TD's to take the lead..
--Brandon Stokely is as good as it gets in the slot and the Broncos have another first down
--Marshall is awesome!!
--The Broncos won't be denied this time, and Travis Henry has a Denver Touchdown!!!
Jaguars 20 - BRONCOS 14

Jaguars Seventh Drive --

--The defense has stepped up so far in the 2nd half...We need on more tough stop...Preferrably a three and out!
--A run for 3 yards on first down...
--Lewis has a first down, and the Jags TE has had a huge day today...
--Another catch by a Tight End and the defense just doesn't have an answer for David Garrard today...
--Already in field goal range, the Jags can put this game away with a TD
--Nice tackle by Nick Ferguson brings up a 3rd down....
--A quarterback draw gets the Jags to the 1. How can the Broncos not see that coming???
--The D-Line celebrating is not something I want to see. You've been shredded all day...
--Interference on Paymeh gives the jags three momre cracks at it...
--ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Fumble recovered by the Broncos and they have the ball, needing 94 yards for the win!!

Broncos Eighth Drive --

--6 minutes to try and win...Can the Comeback Kid do it again??
--Jags doing a great job getting pressure with their front 4....
--Fourth and 5 and the Broncos have to go for it...
--Graham can't hold on and will add to it by spiking the ball. Missed opportunities have just killing the Broncos all a day. Graham has got to make that catch...HAS TO!

Jaguars Eighth Drive --

--The Jags have made it very hard on themselves, and the Broncos have done everything they could to hand a game away....
--Randy Cross making sure everyone knows why Shanny went for it on 4th down. The defense has not shown they can stop the Jags, and the Broncos were out of Time-Outs. He really had no choice...
--A Field Goal should end it. A disappointing loss to say the least...

I am going to try and blow this game off....Playing with my daughters always puts things in their proper perspective....Feel free to talk amongst themselves...

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Oh Jeeze.

got to score from beyond the 5 yard line.

In other news, Fred Taylor is out with a thigh contusion.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:19 PM MDT reply actions

Touchdown!

Purple Row

by Russ Oates on Sep 23, 2007 4:20 PM MDT reply actions

well I'll be....

should have the lead now...

by Donkeys5226 on Sep 23, 2007 4:20 PM MDT reply actions

Marshall!!!!!!

This kid is it...

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:20 PM MDT reply actions

Henry

His first Bronco TD! Hopefully he gets it going now =)

by DjBroncos on Sep 23, 2007 4:20 PM MDT reply actions

Ya!!!!!!!!!!

Come on D!!!!!!!

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:21 PM MDT reply actions

OK Good stuff

Now we need to get the ball back. Come on D, LETS GO!

by binford04 on Sep 23, 2007 4:21 PM MDT reply actions

D Fence!

D Fence! D Fence! D FENCE!!!!!

Come on...

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:23 PM MDT reply actions

My stomach

is aching...

by DjBroncos on Sep 23, 2007 4:23 PM MDT reply actions

My Heart Rate

is off the charts...

Come on D...

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:26 PM MDT reply actions

SHIT!!!

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:27 PM MDT reply actions

Sheez!

Come ON, D!

by Silverblood on Sep 23, 2007 4:28 PM MDT reply actions

Where's our D#?

by DjBroncos on Sep 23, 2007 4:29 PM MDT reply actions

The D

has to make an oustanding play here.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:29 PM MDT reply actions

Pretty Exciting Game!

I did not expect a game like this today...it's like every play is critical to the outcome. I don't trust any lead with your coach on the other side...

-Chris

by River City Rage on Sep 23, 2007 4:29 PM MDT reply actions

Must stop.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:30 PM MDT reply actions

Fucking Garrard.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:31 PM MDT reply actions

Jeez, Garrard to the 1?

Purple Row

by Russ Oates on Sep 23, 2007 4:31 PM MDT reply actions

Interception

please....

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:31 PM MDT reply actions

Pass interfearence

wow. That seals it.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:33 PM MDT reply actions

Penalties

are killing us in every crucial situation...

by DjBroncos on Sep 23, 2007 4:33 PM MDT reply actions

Wooo!

Fumble recovered by the Broncos!

Purple Row

by Russ Oates on Sep 23, 2007 4:33 PM MDT reply actions

FUMBLE!!!

by DjBroncos on Sep 23, 2007 4:33 PM MDT reply actions

Yes!

Finally!

by Silverblood on Sep 23, 2007 4:33 PM MDT reply actions

whew

this season is going to take about 10 years off my life expectancy.

by Donkeys5226 on Sep 23, 2007 4:34 PM MDT reply actions

Ahhhhhhhhh

fefhn;akvfhkpaxdlHcf scs

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you God for helping D-Will and D-Nash help us!!

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:34 PM MDT reply actions

Ferguson

with a huge game so far. Correct me if I'm wrong.

by DjBroncos on Sep 23, 2007 4:34 PM MDT reply actions

Ferguson!!!

Yes!!! Lets go Offense!!!!!

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:36 PM MDT reply actions

Not a good start.

n/t

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:36 PM MDT reply actions

Just like that.

time to punt.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:37 PM MDT reply actions

Not to mention

people are saying Cutler is hurt.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:37 PM MDT reply actions

I'd punt.

You have to rely on the D even though it's gotten torched.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:38 PM MDT reply actions

they went for it?

by Donkeys5226 on Sep 23, 2007 4:38 PM MDT reply actions

Got Lucky.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:39 PM MDT reply actions

1st time

I am glad about a penalty!

by DjBroncos on Sep 23, 2007 4:39 PM MDT reply actions

Yea, incomplete

but there was a delay of game on us.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:39 PM MDT reply actions

They get the ball.

Game Over.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:39 PM MDT reply actions

Gah

This game is just horrible.

by binford04 on Sep 23, 2007 4:40 PM MDT reply actions

It was a hard fought game

when you consider how much everyone else other than Marshall Cutler and Bailey sucked ass.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:40 PM MDT reply actions

Jags get a FG or a TD

Well, it was a good effort by the 3 I mentioned above.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:41 PM MDT reply actions

What a total suck ass collapse by the D

That's all you can say. That coupled with Hixon and Graham not holding on to that pass, the Broncos didn't deserve to win.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:44 PM MDT reply actions

2-1 headin into

The Dome and with the Chargers and then the Steel pack. We could easily be 2-4. That just blows.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:47 PM MDT reply actions

Could be worse.

At least we're not Notre Dame.

Purple Row

by Russ Oates on Sep 23, 2007 4:48 PM MDT up reply actions

Did not deserve to win

The offense did some good stuff, but I seriously question the playcalling. The coaching was atrocious today.

Defense, I don't know where to start. Aside from the two fumble recoveries, they were shredded and didn't show one bit of moxie when it came to stopping the run or anything.

Special teams: The Hixon fumble cost the team 3 points that may end up being the difference in the game.

by binford04 on Sep 23, 2007 4:49 PM MDT reply actions

Great Game!

Sorry for your loss, but you've got something there with your young players! I bet we see each other again in the Playoffs!

-Chris

Big Cat Country

by River City Rage on Sep 23, 2007 4:51 PM MDT reply actions

To call this

a disappointment would be an understatement.

Purple Row

by Russ Oates on Sep 23, 2007 4:52 PM MDT reply actions

Little consolation, but...

San diego lost, so in the big picture...

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 23, 2007 4:53 PM MDT reply actions

That guy is

good at rubbing it in in a nice way.

Yea, look at the big picture. It aint looking too good.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 4:57 PM MDT reply actions

What happenned to our homefield advantage?

In our last 4 regular season games we have lost to two teams we have no business losing to at home in the San Fransisco 49ers, and the Jacksonville Jaguars. This is completely unacceptable. Look around the league at what the elite teams are doing to inferior opponents at home. We should be counting our blessings that we are not 0-3 right now. This is not a good football team. I hope it gets corrected but I have a bad feeling the ceiling for this team is 8 wins. I can't remember being this frustrated over a Broncos loss in a while.

by Make It Rain @ Mile High Report on Sep 23, 2007 5:17 PM MDT reply actions

Post of the Day

We all thought we were just having 2 down weeks but it is flat out evident that we are not. We are not that good. I repeat WE ARE NOT GOOD.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 5:23 PM MDT reply actions

AFC

West is the weakest division as of now.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 5:24 PM MDT reply actions

Just throwing this in...

anyone see how the Raiders won today? It's not so bush league after all is it? Hypocrisy as usual from the dark side.

by Donkeys5226 on Sep 23, 2007 5:35 PM MDT reply actions

Hysterical!

Yeah, Lane Kiffin's move at the end of CLE/OAK? All those complaints about how Shanahan yanked the Raiders' chain last week, and they go and do THE EXACT SAME THING TO CLEVELAND!! I was freakin' rolling. Can't wait to see all of last weeks' whiney Faider quotes posted on their own message boards! What a bunch of jokers!

First post, by the way. H'lo everybody from Montana. : )

by broncosmontana on Sep 23, 2007 5:38 PM MDT up reply actions

Welcome!!

Glad to have you!!

-TSG

www.milehighreport.com

by John Bena on Sep 23, 2007 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions

Wow

the knee jerking on here is just insane right now.

Sure we lost, but half the talk on here is downright ludicrous, and mostly false.

Everyone take a deep breath and reconvene tomorrow, so we can look at this team intelligently and not incoherently.

by ohnokoolaid on Sep 23, 2007 5:39 PM MDT reply actions

The reason...

I have yet to weigh in...

I do respect the opinion's of everyone and completely understand the frustration...

-TSG

www.milehighreport.com

by John Bena on Sep 23, 2007 5:48 PM MDT up reply actions

I am.

Think about it. With no Elam we're 0-3. If Losman and McKown er whatever knew how to hit a guy in stride, we're 0-3. Plus, we have the 3 of the 4 best teams in the Conference coming up next.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions

Welcome broncosmontana

I don't run the site, but welcome aboard. (TheSportsGuru does).

We're all mostly a little ticked right now, so excuse or flagelance.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 5:51 PM MDT reply actions

I'm never one to make knee jerk reactions

Especially on the Broncos. I thought we'd be fine when we lost to the Dolphins a couple years back and we were. I didn't overreact to the debacle last season down the stretch because Cutler was brand new and taking his lumps and I knew we were going nowhere fast with Plummer. I tend to be extremely optimistic, but unless the front 7 improves I just don't see the 2007 compaign going too well. It could be one of those dreaded rebuilding years.

by Make It Rain @ Mile High Report on Sep 23, 2007 5:54 PM MDT reply actions

As Parcells said...

Hey, you are what you are. There were a few key plays that we didn't make and a few turnovers that sunk us. Jags got back to playing like they always have -- tougher than most people give em credit for. It's a tough loss, for sure. Not sure we've earned the right to be a top 10 team, for sure. We'll know more after the next four opponents -- Indy, stuggling mad SD, Pittsburgh and the revitalized Green Bay.

Thanks, broncodude -- I'm glad to be here and am pulling some hair out myself, but I'm not writing these guys off just yet.

Note to sportsguru -- love the podcast, man. Lucid comments and great forum. You do great work, keep it up!

by broncosmontana on Sep 23, 2007 6:03 PM MDT reply actions

i'm not writing the team off,

I'm telling you that the problem resides in the coaching staff. I'm one to look at the worse case scenario and say okay, we're not going there, but unless something happens in the trenches, we're going to constantly get ran over.

It's not like we don't know what is wrong, we do. They do. We know they do. We know what they're going to do and they know we do, but they do it anyways and still succeed.

I look ahead and see what these teams are good at. Addia oppend it up today. L.T. will go off someday. Pitt is a monster. Favre all of a sudden is playing like hes 28 again. It doesn't favor us and what drives me insane is we should have slaughtered these 3 teams, but we didn't.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions

Yup, agreed.

It sucks when you know their strengths, and basically what their entire game plan will be, and you can't find a way to stop it. As the guru said last week, these are the games you gotta have.

by broncosmontana on Sep 23, 2007 6:16 PM MDT up reply actions

I am too,

but I'd rather we just have our asses get kicked and the Raiders win it all, because I can't take this close game crap. It is a rebuilding year unless Bly and Bailey turn into fly's on crap so we can put 9 in the box. yea, I said 9.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 6:03 PM MDT reply actions

Side note: congrats to #4

on tying Marino for TDs and passing Elway for wins. Maybe he'll ride off into the sunset like #7. Probably won't -- and you really have to appreciate how special John's scenario was. But it is kinda cool to think of the possiblity of another legend following Elway down that rarest of paths. Anybody remember the sideline impression of Elway's warm up tosses that Farve did for his teammates during one of their games? Funny funny guy.

by broncosmontana on Sep 23, 2007 6:12 PM MDT reply actions

Let my clarify myself.

The problem with this team is the coaching staff. They don't prepare the offense or defense. The other team gets great field position. This forces the D-Linemen to break the scheme and try to get upfield to make a play. In reselt, they get ran right through. Then the offense, needing to immediately come back forces some things and puts the D in even more dire situations. They fail again and then a turnover puts the game away for the other team. It should but then we almost make a comeback only to be thwarted by horrible play calling by.....THE COACHING STAFF. Sound familiar?

I will post this in the afterthought diary.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 6:13 PM MDT reply actions

Complete misdiagnosis

the players did not break the scheme trying to make a play today (save for maybe Webster, who looks way too out of control), they just failed to execute the scheme.

Some blame can go to the coaches for some play calling, but Shanahan doesn't outthink himself too often and has earned some off-games. Wanting to fry him for one loss is exactly a knee-jerk. If his play-calling is such a problem, why is today the day everyone decides to criticize it?

If you want to fault the coaches/administrators for their choices of players, you have a case, and I'll make this case in my weekly story for guru, but at the end of the day, the players failed to execute, not Shanahan, not Bates, not O'Brien.

Gold makes way too much money to not stay with tight ends, the same for Graham and catching passes, the same for Lepsis and protecting the passer.

Shanahan is taking too much heat here for a couple of players that aren't doing their jobs.

Besides, I have a hard time thinking critical about a team with two young budding superstars at QB and WR, and the best pair of corners in football.

Shanahan isn't one to settle. They'll make their corrections and go on. There's too much talent to start the "sky is falling" mantra.

Besides, look at Jacksonville over the last three years, and you'll see that they play their best against the best teams in football. They deserve some credit too.

by ohnokoolaid on Sep 23, 2007 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions

defense = special teams.

Hold on to the freaking ball. IT WON'T BITE.

by broncodude793 on Sep 23, 2007 6:14 PM MDT reply actions

Hard game to watch

Getting manhandled yet again by the opposing team's running game and horrid special teams once again made it hard to watch this game. :(

by MADness on Sep 23, 2007 6:15 PM MDT reply actions

My knee-jerk reactions....

somehow I'm still optimistic...mostly because Cutler has been solid, Marshall is emerging, Henry aside from today will have a great year. I believe the defense will gel in time and will get better.

The bad: special teams continues to put the team in tough situation. Atrocious play calling inside the red zone has led to too many 22-yard FGs (or nothing). The defense struggles to out any pressure on the QB.

Also bad: the strength of their next three opponents means that the Broncos' time to gel and fine-tune things has run out. They have to start playing up to their talent and eliminate mistakes now.

by Donkeys5226 on Sep 23, 2007 7:49 PM MDT reply actions

Game planning bite in the ass??

My only major complaint is that they never even tried to run Henry against the Jags. The first three and out didn't see his number called and by the end of the game he had only around 11 touches. That is not Broncos football, no matter how confident we are in are WR corps. Why did we get away from the run so fast? Henry's last few runs averaged around 6ypc, and the Jax D was looking tired, our signature wear-em'-down rushing game would have worked today.

Theory: Denver D gets a nice three-and-out sequence to start the game. Denver O opens with a little UNNECESSARY trickery and complication. Shanny thinks it would be worth it to get Jags back on their heels defensively, but Jax is ready and we get a three-and-out to start. Still not a terrible thing until Jaguars start a drive that doesn't end until the half is almost over. Whatever Denver planned on doing offensively went out the window at that point for some reason that I still can't figure out. Denver played like they were two scores behind (which, lo and behold they eventually became). Baffling.

On the upside WE HAD A CHANCE!! I'll take that anyday. We have no right to expect what Cutler has been able to deliver this soon, and we had some guys step up (marshall, dumervil, ferguson) in some good ways. This team by far is one of the most talented we've fielded in years, and despite the loss I'm going to love watching the marshall catch and run from this game for a while. We all will.

But if the Denver D doesn't learn to tackle (with apologies to Champ here, of course) before the Indy game...Ugh...

by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 23, 2007 8:51 PM MDT reply actions