Jay Cutler: " I have a stronger arm than John(Elway), hands down"
the confidence of an extremely talented, and very young, quarterback or disrespect? Depends on who you ask, but there is no doubt that Jay Cutler is very confident in his abilities. In an article to be published in The Sporting News magazine, Cutler talks about the cannon he has as an arm and how it might compare to the legendary quarterback's, among other topics -
— Cutler on his arm vs. John Elway’s: “I have a stronger arm than John, hands down. I’ll bet on it against anybody’s in the league. Brett Favre’s got a cannon. But on game days, there’s nobody in the league who’s going to throw it harder than I am at all.”
— Cutler on whether there is a team in the AFC with a better chance to reach the Super Bowl than Denver: “I don’t think so. With Tom (Brady) out, I think there are three, four, five teams that have a legitimate shot of getting there.”
— Cutler on how surprised he’ll be if the Broncos don’t win the AFC West: “At this point, pretty surprised. Very surprised, actually.”
— Cutler on his expectation that the Broncos will score every time they have the ball: “I think we can score 30-plus points a game. I don’t see why we couldn’t.”
— Cutler on his battle with Type 1 diabetes: “I lost 35, 36 pounds. I was always tired. My mouth was always dry. I didn’t really want to play football. I didn’t really want to go out there. I was tired before the game and exhausted after the game. I’d sleep all the time.”
Elway also has some quotes in the article --
— Elway on Cutler’s arm vs. those of some NFL greats: “Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre—they all could get outside and make big plays. Cutler is either more athletic or has better arm strength than each of them. His arm is pretty special, might even be as good as mine when I was his age. Certainly, it’s better than mine was at the end.”
— Elway on comparisons between himself and Cutler: “Some people have asked how he compares to me. He’s closer to me physically than personalitywise. But even I struggled a bit with expectations and the Denver spotlight when I was his age. It can be overwhelming. Once he wins some big games, he’ll start to feel like he belongs. It didn’t happen for me until my fourth year, when we went to Cleveland and won “The Drive” game. It was a big boost for me to win the AFC championship game, especially on the road.”
— Elway on what’s next for Cutler: “Cutler just needs to keep growing. His teammates’ confidence in him and the coaches’ confidence in his abilities have grown by leaps and bounds this year. It’s obvious. Hey, everybody follows a winner. And he’s going to win a lot of NFL games.”
I am a Sporting News subscriber and can't wait to read the whole thing. Your thoughts. Do you like Cutler's confidence or is even mentioning that he is better than Elway at anything blasphemy for a Broncos quarterback?
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John is a legend, that's true and will ever be!
But if it’s the truth, and Jay’s arm ist stronger, why not name it!?
by DjBroncos on Oct 10, 2008 7:03 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That Swagger!
How can you not love? No candid answers, no dancing around the questions, a straight shooter. Looks like he is walking around with a little more hop in his step, and Denver is going to need it to continue.
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by The Heat on Oct 10, 2008 8:11 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem
with what Cutler said; it’s not as if he is attempting to be an iconoclast here. It’s one comment and it’s not far from the truth.
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by Russ on Oct 10, 2008 8:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Well you know...
It sounds like Elway agrees with him. Besides, he’s better than any of US, right? Rock on, Jay.
by TheMastermind on Oct 10, 2008 8:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
As one of the commenters on the Sporting News article stated
I don’t think Cutler was cocky becuase he said he had a better arm than Elway’s. After all, he never said he as a BETTER QB than Elway.
I believe we all know that having a cannon arm doesn’t mean the guy is a great quarterback.
Elway even agreed that at this point in his career, Jay’s arm might be as strong as John’s.
I do like that he has that confidence and is willing to say it. Since it appears that he is the first QB in Denver to not fall directly under Elway’s shadow, I don’t believe that he feels the need to have to bow down to all things Elway.
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by DesertBroncoFan on Oct 10, 2008 8:46 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
His arm is exceptional
we all know that, and so was John Elway’s. You get the impression that Elway wished Jay were more conservative in his comments to the media, but Jay just isn’t like that. He’s proven to be very candid, and frankly, easily annoyed with stupid questions. His media-handling style reminds me of Bill Parcells, actually, whereas John was more tight-lipped and Shanahan-like.
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on Oct 10, 2008 8:48 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't vote
I didn’t vote because I think Jay was just being tongue in cheek with his answer; he’s just goofin’ around. Especially with the “hands down” comment, it’s not a serious answer. I do like that he’s not afraid to say stuff like that and worried that it’ll be misconstrued by guys like us. Overall, since he’s been in Denver, I’ve gotten the impression that Cutler doesn’t disrespect Elway, obviously, but he refuses to live in his shadow. I say, “GOOD!” Look, Elway was drafted when I was in junior high. They guy was my hero right from the start. I still think it’s cool that I share his birthday, so I still am and always will be dorky fond of the guy. But, he’s retired and in the Hall of Fame. It does no one any good, least of all us as fans of the Broncos, to try and push Cutler under that shadow. There are obvious similarities to their games. I find it ironic that he’s always compared to Favre, who was always compared to Elway when he was younger (and who, by the way, said straight out he patterned his game after Elway).
Anyway, I took Cutler’s answer as just poking fun at the question and a good natured shot at the old man. Good for him.
On another note, when did Elway start writing a column for the Sporting News? Now I gotta subscribe… or can I get it online?
Or so I'm told.
by MN Bronco on Oct 10, 2008 9:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted for the confidence, but I laughed out loud when I heard about Elway's response.
Elway gently slapped him down in a respectful way. Gotta love Cutler though…the dude doesn’t worry about anyone’s shadow except his own. John Elway is and will always be my favorite player of all-time. Hell, I grew up watching his greatness…but I absolutely love the vision of the future I have for this team and with Cutler at the helm. A .500 mark in the Super Bowl is coming, my friends!
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 10, 2008 9:05 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see Cutler actually win something before he starts bragging too much
John has more Super Bowl appearances than any other QB. Ever.
Cutler is .500.
Now which arm is “better”?
Don’t get me wrong. I like the guy, and I like his confidence. I’m just not sure I like the braggins about an unproven arm.
by CoastalBronco on Oct 10, 2008 9:33 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
What was John's record in his early days?
You just can’t compare Jay to John all-time!
by DjBroncos on Oct 10, 2008 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure Cutler's arm is unproven...but Cutler's career and achievments are unproven.
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 10, 2008 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
its arm STRENGTH and nothign else
Elway was a phenom and so is Cutler…I think Cutler has done the things he needs to do to stay our of Elways shadow…be confident without stepping on his toes. Plus who is to say his arm isn’t stronger? Advances in workouts have significantly changed since the time Elway was in college.
Isn’t it great that we can sit here and debate whether our current or all time QB has more of a rocket arm :) ?
by Sneaky Sean on Oct 10, 2008 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's great...
for him to have such confidence. I think he’s a great quarterback, and I enjoy watching him play immensely. I root for Jay Cutler. However, is it me, or does he seem like a tremendous, for lack of better words, DB (keepin’ it pg-13 here)? I don’t know the guy and have never even met him, so I realize that I should not pass judgment, but I just had to get it off my chest and these comments kind of got to me.
The exerpts from Steven Fastis’s book certainly portray him this way, and Steven said as much in nearly every interview I read or heard. I also become uneasy while watching his post-game and mid-week interviews. I see more smugness than confidence in those interviews. The above quotes do not convince me otherwise.
Perhaps I feel this way because he is following the biggest anti-DB to play professional sports, imho. Plummer was pretty much the man. He had nowhere near the talent of Jay or John, but he played the game with unmatched intensity and seemed to be a down-to-earth dude off the field (which one of us has never had road rage?).
Plummer was so refreshing because he grew up as a stud athlete in an era where these guys are given everything, and to a large degree, carefully molded into massive DB’s by their parents, coaches, fellow students, journalists, fans, and communities. Look at the QBs drafted with him, Vince and Leinart? C’mon, the Manning brothers, or Phillis Rivers for chrissakes??? Look no further than Tim Tebow, wow! Would you want to hang out with any of these guys (OK, it wouldn’t be a bad thing to be Leinart’s wingman at a hot tub party)?
Two words: John, Elway. Elway was an unparalleled DB, refusing to play for the Colts, stumping for George freakin’ W Bush (twice!!), constantly whining about the Denver media. I say this about my childhood hero, my favorite player ever. I was an hysterical 9 year old the evening he led the drive. I was on the fifth level of the old stadium with my dad the night he hit Vance along the sidelines against the Oilers in the ’91 playoffs. I had nothing but John Elway posters in my room. He even had roots in my home state of Montana!
Okay, I guess Jay looks pretty good in comparison, and it’s great having a competitive, fun-to-watch team on the field. I will root hard for Jay his entire career. I just wish that football programs could produce more players with the skills of Jay and John and the personalities of Jake Plummer and Donovan F McNabb.
My son turns four in November and is already yelling at the TV with me on Sundays. For his birthday I ordered him a bronco jersey. I went with #19, my boy Eddie. Now there’s a guy I can really root for.
by ButteBronco on Oct 10, 2008 10:10 AM MDT reply actions 3 recs
Not playing for the colts wasn't a DB move
I would rather play for the yankees than the colts too. And what is DB about choosing where you want to play?
and WTF is stumping?
by Sneaky Sean on Oct 10, 2008 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok looked it up
So what if it was for Bush? Let a man choose his political affiliation. He’s a DB b/c he supports Bush? Well paint me a DB then.
Keep the politics out of your rants…whoever you support NO ONE ELSE cares. And show some respect…he is the F$%#ing President even if you didn’t vote for him.
by Sneaky Sean on Oct 10, 2008 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the political reference...
I’m pretty caught up in it all these days. I will say, however, that once a public figure takes a political posture, he/she opens themselves up to criticism. I actually really respect people that do it because of that fact. I just wholeheartedly disagreed with John on that one, and will never look at him the same because of it (not that anyone cares, you’re right). I should have kept the reference out of there in the first place, I got a little carried away. Sorry for offending you.
As for the Colts move, I think it was lame. It worked out great for all of us, but lame nonetheless. I also thought what Eli did was lame. Again, worked out great for us, but still lame. NFL organizations draft players, not the other way around. When certain guys feel they are above that and think they can choose where they want to play, it’s a sign to me that they’ve fallen into the realm of DB (again, for lack of better words) that befalls many great, young athletes. In fact, if one gets to the point where he feels he’s above the whole draft thing, he’s fallen into an elite class.
by ButteBronco on Oct 10, 2008 3:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you even know
why he refused to play for the Colts?
I am willing to bet you didnt?
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 10, 2008 5:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was it because he didn't want to play for the owner? I personal vendetta.
Or did he just not want to play for a crappy organization? ;-)
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 10, 2008 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't it b/c they
had such a bad O- line?
by Sneaky Sean on Oct 10, 2008 6:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, it had to do with the Colts not being competitive and that Elway didn't like the owners.
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 10, 2008 10:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
In many regards, Elway had the same screw you attitude to the "old guard" owners that we currently have for the "old guard" media.
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 10, 2008 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has to do with Frank Kush
who was the coach at the time used over the top methods at ASU, using the buill in the ring. It was used to “motivate” players who needed. A player named Rutledge sued ASU and Kush for mental and physical abuse. It was settled and nobody really accepted blame. Now this is over the normal practices of a coach. Elway stated he would play baseball before he would play for Kush. You may like or dislike his reasons, but IMO if the Colts would have fired Kush and replaced him with anyone Elway would have played for the Colts. Unlike Eli, Elway was a good pitcher. He would have been successful in MLB. Not as good as the QB he was. It a bit of irony, IMO, Jack Elway now plays on Frank Kush field at ASU.
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 11, 2008 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I didn't...
I had always thought it was because they were a bad team, but according to some quick research it was due to a personal vendetta between his father and Irsay. Is that correct? If so, justifiable? I’d give him the benefit of doubt.
by ButteBronco on Oct 10, 2008 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can understand
if you was mislead into an understanding of his reasons, the MSM has never been fair when it comes to any Bronco player current of former. Look at who is the HoF. I honestly believe Elway felt he had his convictions and would not play for that type of coach. Now I also believe Dan reeves was a type of this coach, but not the extremes of Kush. Thats why Elway and Reeves never got along. Now, Reeves was a good coach. But he never lasted longer than 4 seasons in either NY or Atlanta and their is a reason. Look at the coaches who are in an organization for more than 10+ seasons. They can adapt to the current players. I just wanted you to know the real reasons why he did what he did. It wasnt selfish like ShEli was
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 11, 2008 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but...
The player still has to sign a contract to play with the team. If they really don’t want to play for the team, for whatever reason, they have the option not to sign. It used to happen all the time when there were 2 leagues… Guys would get drafted in both leagues and they could only sign in one. That meant that the other team got hung out to dry.
I know the reasoning there is slightly different, but the player still got to choose which team he wanted to play for. Heck, even if he just didn’t like the way that the owner looked, he should still have the option not to sign a contract with the team if he doesn’t want to. I agree that doing so generally indicates a certain type of character, but I can’t say that I wouldn’t do the same thing. You don’t sign a contract with the NFL to get drafted, so there is no obligation to sign with the team who drafts you, and I feel like it’s better for everyone if the player mans up and says that they won’t play for the team rather than just pulling a Vince Carter and dogging it until they get traded. Taking it up in the media is less than optimal, but sometimes that is the only way to get things done…
by hai17 on Oct 10, 2008 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is a HUFE difference
between what Elway went thru and Manning just not wanting to play for SD organization that has not a good history of winning. Elway had options that Manning really didnt. Elway could have played MLB, whereas ShEli would have either played for SD, hope for a trade or sit out an entire season and go back into the draft. If I was SD I would have done what they did
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 11, 2008 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most definitely...
I am not arguing that at all, I am just pointing out that there is no obligation to sign a contract. Manning’s actions definitely portrayed him as a whiner… My point was just that he had the right not to sign a contract, the same as Elway did. Elway definitely had better options, and so he had a lot better position to bargain from – and better reasons for his decision – but I just wanted to point out that no one has to sign a contract that they don’t want to.
by hai17 on Oct 11, 2008 1:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
It maybe just me, but I hate the comparisons made between what Elway did and Manning did. It also has to do that I dislike the manning family.
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 11, 2008 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elway was also upfront.
Eli hid in the back room while his daddy and big brother came out to speak to the press.
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by Steve Nichols on Oct 12, 2008 4:32 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yes.....go Jay
luv it Jayyyyyyyyyy…u r awesome…totally the best
by JaysGirl on Oct 10, 2008 10:14 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
His Comment
They did bother me before i read John’s comments. There is a fine line between arrogance and saying the truth. I dont know if he will be better, i doubt it, but he is going to be up there.
Go Broncos!
by dbroncos78087 on Oct 10, 2008 10:27 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Jay's confidence but
I definately think Elway had the strongest arm in the NFL, the fact that he could make plays across is body and across the field is what seperated him from everyone else as far as arm strength, but I think Cutler ranks up there with Elway, Favre, and Cunningham who had an amazing arm also, just not that acurate.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 10, 2008 10:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That's just youthful confidence.
Every kid thinks he/she can do better than the previous generation. And more power to them. They need that kind of confidence to get things done. If they were too realistic they might get too depressed to try anything.
It takes all of us a while to understand we all stand on the shoulders of giants. In the mean time, we learn to be giants ourselves.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Oct 10, 2008 11:20 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this
Judging from Tecmo Bowl, Elway certainly had a strong arm. It’s not like Jay is saying Elway was bad or didn’t have a strong arm or in any way disparaging him, he is just a confident star on the rise. If you are an Olympic sprinter, you aren’t going to say “I’m fast, but this guy and this guy are faster” you will say “I am the FASTEST” if you are a winner. Same with a QB. This guy is a winner and he knows it. However, he isn’t like Phyllis flinging sh** around and attacking other players.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
by poorboywilly on Oct 10, 2008 11:25 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
At the pro bowl...
…receivers from other teams used to beg him to throw the 40 yard out pattern to them, just to see what it looked like when done right.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Oct 10, 2008 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
really, who cares
I love his confidence. I love the fact he is taking the Elway shadow and making it disappear. I loved Elway, but he has been gone for 10 years now. Let John rest. Let JC have his glory and be able to carve out his own niche. And to whomever said what has Cutler done yet, just wait, And BTW didnt it take Elway 15 years to win a title? Butler has more TD passes, yards, and fewer picks than Elway did. Plus early in Elways career he had better teams and defenses. So let Jay talk all he wants. to me that shows confidence in his game and in his abilites. I am getting so tired of the comparisons. Hey guess what Elway was great but he isnt coming back, he is retired. Let Elways feats live on in histoyr and quit complaining about Jay sayiung he is better. HE ISNT ELWAY, and I dont want him to be.
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 10, 2008 1:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
JC to the promised land!
What would JC do or say?
Now we know!
Amen, brother!
Rise up and resurrect yourself above the heathen doubters, who slave themselves to the limitations of man. Let your belief in the greater almighty bring salvation to our Bronco land!
by The Gun Young on Oct 10, 2008 1:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
AND SO WE SHALL RIDE OFF WITH JC INTO THE SUNSET . . .
OF HOPE AND GLORY, AND WE SHALL FOREVER BE REMEMBERED BY YOUR GREAT DEADS!
CAPPED BABY!
WITH CAPS!
YOUR FAITH WILL “BEAR” FRUIT!
by The Gun Young on Oct 10, 2008 1:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
PREACH IT BROTHER!!!!
To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn
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by Philistine21 on Oct 10, 2008 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...Stronger arm than Elway...hmmm
I love his confidence but I would have to see Jay throw a pass, on the run, east of the east hash-mark, to someone darting down the west sideline—with a bullet so extreme that defenders have no time to even react to that wierdest of long cross-field throw—before I believe Jay’s arm is better than John’s at the same age.
I am really beginning to love Cutler—the fun thing is that many younger fans will begin to think Elway a myth….because Cutler is their man….and I love the swaggering Duke he is turning out to be. We are watching Favre finally putting Starr to rest——Denver style.
Love John!
GO JAY!!
The best defense is a good offense!
I hope.
by Mike Clark on Oct 10, 2008 5:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the confidence in this kid.
He knows what he can do and in no way shape or form do I find anything wrong with it. I mean it’s not like he came out and said he is better than Elway or diminished him in any way. I don’t think he has a better arm hands down, however it is close. Cutler does have quite a cannon and can really get some velocity on his throws.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Oct 10, 2008 7:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
stupid comment by jay. period
hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!
by davecheffy on Oct 10, 2008 8:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
lol - I am betting the whole thing was taken out of context. The media is good at f-ing people over...
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by Tim Lynch on Oct 10, 2008 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially if you are a Bronco
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by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 11, 2008 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jay was joking. The comment was with a grin...
…and sounds like he was just playing around.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 12, 2008 4:34 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
One reporter, and one alone,
stated that Cutler had a grin on his face when he said it. Frankly, I am amazed that anyone is taking him seriously. It should be obvious, after all his pressers and interviews, that Cutler likes to joke and kid around.
I suspect that most reporters did not tell the whole story because it is better for them, they think, if they put Cutler across as bragging. That will get more readers and responses than just about anything else.
Really, folks, journalism is dead. What we have now are generally a bunch of liars who report what they think will raise responses such as we have seen here in this thread. We need to stop commenting on their stories as if we believe them.
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
by AZDynamics on Oct 11, 2008 8:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
i think it was an unbelieveably stupid thing to say
what is he trying to prove by saying that? just keep your mouth shut and play
by The Villyn on Oct 11, 2008 9:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
he's not saying he's better
all he’s saying is he can throw farther or harder. He probably could Elway was great but…shit this kid over throws everybody. No matter what, at least Plummers gone.
No more Yankee Stadium, no matter what they call the new one.
by USCnumber1 on Oct 12, 2008 10:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It's nort in the arm in it's in the "W"
I like Jay but let’s not compare arms here, Elway never hung his hat on having a big arm, his legacy is winning games and winning rings…..
by A2Godsmacker on Oct 16, 2008 7:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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