Jacksonville Jaguars 24 - Denver Broncos 17 - Making The Grade
So much hope after the Broncos beat the Buccaneers. After a great start, the Broncos offense struggled and the defense gave up too many big plays in losing to the Jaguars. The Broncos now face a tough road trip to New England and a prime time match up with the Patriots. Before moving full steam ahead to the Pats, let's take one more painful look back at the loss to the Jags..
| QUARTERBACK | |
C |
Jay Cutler -- 21/37 - 192 yds, 2 TD, 1 INT Yea, I know, this grade may be a bit higher than some of you think it should be. Cutler is completely at fault for the fumble, especially at a time in the game when the Broncos had all the momentum. The INT was a glorified punt that isn't that big a concern for me. Turnovers aside, Cutler did struggle, but I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt based on injuries to many of his targets. As was pointed out during the game, when the Broncos lost Brandon Stokley to his 10th concussion Cutler had lost the team's 2nd, 3rd and 4th leading receivers. Eddie Royal and Tony Scheffler were already out of the lineup. That left Cutler the bottom of the barrel when it came to his receiving targets. Not good news for a quarterback that gets criticized for targeting Brandon Marshall when everyone is on the field. I did ding Cutler for missing a WIDE OPEN Nate Jackson for a sure touchdown. Cutler is still learning to throw a touch pass, and it should come as Jay gets more reps. The numbers weren't good, but I am putting my faith in Cutler. When everyone is healthy and on the field, Cutler's play, and production, will improve. |

| RUNNING BACK | |
B+ |
Michael Pittman - 20 carries, 120 yards The Broncos finally got a physical running performance, and it was the old man that provided it. Pittman ran hard all day and looked fresh at the end. If anything, I wish the Broncos had given him the ball more often. Questions about whether the Broncos lack of a consistent running game being about the line or the back was answered conclusively and Pittman will likely be more of the featured back moving forward. While Pittman is over the hill in football standards, he really hasn't put a lot of miles, or yards, on his body, being primarily a backup at every stop of his career. Pittman is also a threat in the passing game and is very physical as a pass blocker. This should also allow the Broncos to bring Ryan Torain back slowly from the elbow injury. |
| WIDE RECEIVER | |
C- |
Brandon Marshall - 9 rec. / 98 yards / 10.9 avg This one is hard for me. As a coach, I have always preached that physical errors are better than mental errors. Physical errors are usually a sign of effort, while mental mistakes are a sign of a lack of preparation. I will take a player that gives 100% despite not being the most talented player over a highly talented player that doesn't prepare. What does all this mean? Brandon Marshall is obviously talented, and better yet, he gives maximum effort on every play. But, even though his fumble is a physical mistake, it simply can't happen. On the play, Marshall was on the sideline with three Jags in front of him. He was deep in Jags territory, and the Broncos were driving to take the lead. At that point, head out of bounds to avoid the wear and tear and see what you can do on 1st and 10. It is hard to ding Marshall for trying to make something happen, for trying to be a play maker. But part of being a playmaker is knowing when to push it and when to pull back a bit. The 2nd quarter is the time to pull back. Marshall is young, and he'll learn, but that was a huge play in the football game and cannot happen again.. |
| TIGHT END | |
B |
With Tony Scheffler sidelined, the Broncos used their tight end in a more traditional sense, as more of a run blocker. Daniel Graham did have a touchdown reception, and Nate Jackson should have had another. The group has been steady all season long Sunday was no exception. |
| OFFENSIVE LINE | |
A- |
I thought the "Big Uglies" had a great football game despite playing against their toughest opponent so far this season. The Jags recorded no sacks, and the Broncos were able to run the ball rather effectively as well. It looked to the naked eye that Cutler couldn't get comfortable in the pocket, but I thought that had more to do with pass coverage by the Jags then it did the pass rush. Ryan Clady was flagged for his first holding penalty of the year, a phantom call, but goes to show just how good Clady has been as a roookie starting at Left Tackle. A solid game by a solid group. |
| DEFENSIVE LINE | |
D |
I keep giving this group a low grade, but I am starting to just accept the fact that the Broncos just don't have a lot of talent up front. Marcus Thomas has been a bright spot and was reletively effective as was Kenny Peterson. DeWayne Robertson can still move, but the Broncos have to avoid using him too much, that is, if they want him around for every game. There is just nothing happening on the outside where Jarvis Moss had another disappointing game. Elvis Dumervil continues to improve, but with no one to bring pressure on the opposite side, teams can take Dumervil out of the game. I doubt there is much the Broncos will be able to do to "improve" the unit, these guys are going to have to look in the mirror and just want to do it. |
| LINEBACKER | |
C- |
These guys continue to play hard, but sometimes that aggressiveness takes them right out of the play. We have talked about the big plays the defense has given up, and of those plays that were made on the ground you'll find the culprit was a linebacker that missed his gap assignment. When the Broncos are bringing 8 men into the box to stop the run, and one or more of the linebackers don't fill their gap responsibility, the result is a long run like the one MJD had last week, or Larry Johnson a few weeks ago. Nate Webster made a big play, getting the turnover and giving the Broncos offense solid field position, but as a unit they have been on again, off again. Until the linebacker play is consistent the Broncos will be a Jeckyll and Hyde on defense. |
| DEFENSIVE BACKS | |
C- |
Dre Bly continues to be picked on, and teams continue to have success doing it. This week it was Matt Jones who had success against Bly and again this goes back to what Champ Bailey does on the other side. Jones is a big receiver, former quarterback big. Bly is a smallish corner. That is a bad combination. The safety play was mixed as well, with Marquand Manuel stuck in coverage way too often. All the struggles continue to go back to a lack of pressure on the quarterback. Until the Broncos generate a pass rush there will be let-downs in the secondary. |
| SPECIAL TEAMS | |
B |
A solid game overall for the special teams group who had a tall task going up against the Jags return teams. Matt Prater had a solid game kicking the football and Brett Kern averaged 48 yards per punt. Glenn Martinez, returning punts for the injured Eddie Royal, was extremely good averaging 15 yards per return. He was a shirt-string away from tying the game on a punt return which could have changed the outcome. I thought the group had it's best game as a complete unit and actually feel pretty good about where the ST unit is at this popint in the season. |
| COACHING | |
D |
I still have a problem at times with the schemes the team is employing. The play-calling seems scattered at times, which leads me to believe that there are times that Mike Shanahan over-rules Jeremy Bates and calles what he wants. An example was a 3rd and 1 play from the Jags 30. The Broncos had run the ball effectively all the way down the field and had a 3rd and short. Instead of running the ball, the Broncos try a pass play, which goes incomplete. Instead of kicking the field goal which would have tied the game, Shanny goes for it and the Broncos run the ball right into John Henderson. That's just sloppy play-calling and game management. Shanny said as much after the game. That needs to improve as well, becuase the Broncos just aren't good enough as a team to make up for coaching blunders. |
Comments
Glad you gave props to the O-line...
They’ve impressed me so much this year. The upside for this group gets me excited as we move forward as a team. I can’t express how happy I am to have Clady on our squad.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Oct 15, 2008 9:10 AM MDT
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This team gets a "F"
in my book. Anytime you lose at home you get a “F”.
Turnovers (that led to 10 points) and lack of defensive pressure will always get a failing score.
The O-line is a bright spot with Cutler not getting sacked, but in this league there is no moral victory.
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men
by mdierk on
Oct 15, 2008 9:14 AM MDT
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Classic. I knew you would be voting this way.
I give them a GENEROUS….D-
A loss at home is unacceptable, but the Jags own us. We got the Charger monkey off our back, but we still have the Jaguar and Colt monkeys to deal with.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Zappa on
Oct 15, 2008 9:18 AM MDT
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are they monkeys or is it an 800-lb gorilla??
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men
by mdierk on
Oct 15, 2008 9:56 AM MDT
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800 pound gorilla's...sounds about right.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Zappa on
Oct 15, 2008 9:59 AM MDT
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TEs should be lower
blocking was solid, but they were non-existent in the pass game and while Cutler’s throw was far from perfect, it did hit Jackson on the hands, so he certainly shares the blame there.
by bushwah on
Oct 15, 2008 9:17 AM MDT
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I am trying to go to the monday night game...
It is going to be cold and the Broncos need to pound the rock. The O Line continues to perform… so go with what is becoming a strong foundation to build on and get it done.
by precisiontint on
Oct 15, 2008 9:20 AM MDT
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I approve this message.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Zappa on
Oct 15, 2008 9:21 AM MDT
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I vote a C-
This game was far from Denver’s greatest hour, but what I saw was two pretty evenly matched teams and one team got the Turnovers and some good penalty calls and won the game, switch the turnovers and Denver wins this game very easily. I don’t make excuses for the penalities, you still have to stop the team on defense, but I think we played well, just had too many mistakes.
Game plan to start the game was brilliant, why they went away from that I have no idea. Defensively I thought they played OK but obviously wore down late in the game, run defense looked average at best and pass defense again was lacking consistent pressure. Was happy to see some better blitzing, but still we didn’t diguise much of it and we had a hard time getting there a lot of times. I like an occassional corner blitz, but not coming from the sideline where it takes 3 to 4 seconds to get to the QB, they need to come off the slot side to be effective in a CB blitz.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on
Oct 15, 2008 9:41 AM MDT
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I second that.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on
Oct 15, 2008 12:47 PM MDT
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I gave an overall “C” mostly because I came away from the game wanting to see the Jaguars in the playoffs. I think the Broncos have the horses to beat the Jags easily if they don’t beat themselves. There were at least two points where the Broncos could’ve got a head of steam going and put themselves in a position to win going away but made costly mistakes in Cutler’s and Marshall’s fumbles. If we go up two scores at any point we win that game.
by jaffe28 on
Oct 15, 2008 11:54 AM MDT
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Grades? Naw...
In a game where the outcomes are that you win or lose there should be no grades. This was a pass/fail test. The Broncos failed. That’s it. No equivocation. They failed in not losing.
Sure Brandon Marshall looked good… Pittman did well… But where’d it get us?
J
by Jezru on
Oct 15, 2008 11:54 AM MDT
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Marshall did not look good.
If Marshall would have made a simple catch with over 6 minutes left in the game and extended that drive, we would be having a different conversation right now. His fumbles and drops are way overshadowing his productivity at his position.
by Future Bronco DC on
Oct 15, 2008 2:06 PM MDT
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Point taken...
He did have that costly fumble… However the guy is a freakin’ beast. Did you see the way he fought for yac? I was impressed.
J
by Jezru on
Oct 15, 2008 5:03 PM MDT
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i said c
There was some good things and bad in this game. Again the turnovers killed them and eventually cost them the game. I know what I am gonna say is an excuse but its reality. Losing Stokely and not having Royal hurt big time. IMO Jackson jumped to early on the overthrow. When I was playing football I was always told run thru your route. Jackson did get to hands on the ball. If he runs thru his route he scores 6. He did not need to jump. Jumping caused him to cut off his stride where if he doesnt it is a TD. So I can not and will not put that on JC. Nor will I on the pick. It was a good play to try and get Marshall deep, it turned out as a good punt. You nailed the Bly thing so I wont go into more. The biggest problem I see is the 3-4 big plays Denver will give up in a game. This HAS to stop. They are getting better. But to me home losses are unacceptable. But I expect this team to be 7-1 at home and no worse than 4-4 on the road.
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Oct 15, 2008 12:10 PM MDT
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I gave them a C
based on ST and O Line play. I would grade Cutler lower than you. I do not blame the injuries. Jay was locking on to Marshall and not even considering another reciever. He must improve this and I am sure he will. I gotta admit though, Jezru makes a good point above. Excellent, excellent positional analysis Guru. This really allows us to look at the tem with reduced emotion. I very much appreciate your Making The Grade series. Thanks.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on
Oct 15, 2008 12:15 PM MDT
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2 points Guru
On the play, Marshall was on the sideline with three Jags in front of him. He was deep in Jags territory, and the Broncos were driving to take the lead. At that point, head out of bounds to avoid the wear and tear and see what you can do on 1st and 10.
I agree with you here. But I read in an interview that the Broncos coaches frown heavily on a player (and returners in particular) going out of bound unless there is a need to stop the clock. The Denver staff preaches the extra yard philosophy. I don’t like it or agree with it, and think that your thoughts on this are better than Denver’s. Brandon may have been doing what he was coached to do.
2nd point, the decision to go for it on fourth down instead of kicking the FG. Shanahan said afterwards that he would have done it again. I’m with you 100%. It was a foolish call. The FG ties the game, and I can’t think of a team down by three at the end of the first half that goes for it in that situation.
I’m always quick to support the coaches, but that move had me scratching my head.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on
Oct 15, 2008 12:31 PM MDT
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I disagree....
Only two things are likely to happen in the scenario mentioned above….
1. He fumbles
2. He gets killed by 3 defenders looking to take his head off.
Marhsall said as much after the game. To take a line from the legendary Kenny Rogers – “Know when to hold ’em, know when to fold ’em”….Marshall should have folded them. I know what your saying about going out of bounds, but I guarantee you if we could talk to Shanahan he would say Brandon should, at the very least, save unnecessary pounding…
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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on
Oct 15, 2008 1:02 PM MDT
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I don't think we really disagree
I think Brandon’s move was bad, and I think Shanahan, you, and I agree with that. The problem is (it seems to me), that the team places too much emphasis on staying in bounds when a player should probably go out. When a case like the discussed play happens, a player is likely to overide common sense to just go out because he has been hammered in practice with the Denver philosophy of staying in.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on
Oct 17, 2008 7:05 AM MDT
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Mike Bell
was taught that during a pre-season game during his rookie season by none other than Rod Smith!
After going out of bounds on a long run when he could have got another bunch of yards he was seen on the sidelines with Rod lecturing him on staying inbounds and pound it to get more yards.
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano
by DesertBroncoFan on
Oct 15, 2008 1:23 PM MDT
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I remember that game.
I was kind of surprised because I know gettting extra yards is necessary when trying to get a first down or score, however this was a preseason game. Besides it was preseason.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on
Oct 15, 2008 5:18 PM MDT
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But it was a learning opportunity
for Bell from Rod.
Running out of bounds (even in preseason) isn’t going to look good in the eyes of the coaching staff and if he wants to make the team, he’d better put a shoulder into the guy trying to tackle him!
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano
by DesertBroncoFan on
Oct 16, 2008 9:24 AM MDT
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I understand preseason
however in the regular season I do think you need to pick your moments.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on
Oct 16, 2008 11:30 AM MDT
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Was I the only one...?
Last Sunday I found myself continually yelling at my TV, “DAMN THAT 3 MAN RUSH!! IT’S NOT WORKING! GIVE IT UP! dAMN THAT 3 MAN RUSH!!! AARRGG!” I think I scared my children.
The 3 man rush just doesn’t work. On one play Garrard had a full 5-6 seconds. It was amazing that the coverage was so good that he ended up having to run out of bounds for like a 3 yard gain. 5-6 seconds is FOREVER in football.
Why does Denver insist on using the 3 man rush when it has never, not once this season, produced good results that I can think of. It’s insanity and I got so frustrated I had to turn the game off for awhile at one point.
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by EastCoastBronco on
Oct 15, 2008 12:59 PM MDT
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Garrard...
…going out of bounds for a three yard gain is a good result. Actually it seems like our eight in coverage forces that sort of outcome fairly frequently which I’m sure is the rationale behind doing it. That said, ‘fairly frequently’ isn’t going to get it since we also give up first downs and big plays when we do that.
by jaffe28 on
Oct 15, 2008 1:36 PM MDT
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Come on Guys
The Broncos are clearly still a year or two away from being undeniable contenders, but despite the shortcomings I am convinced this is a better team than what we’ve seen the last three weeks.
by TheMastermind on
Oct 15, 2008 3:29 PM MDT
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If we could only learn to stop shooting ourselves in the foot.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on
Oct 15, 2008 5:19 PM MDT
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