MHR's 'You The Fan' Interview
Welcome to the first edition of "You the Fan"! This is something we have given a little thought about in the past and I remember doing an interview of firstfan several months ago which can be found here that was pretty well received, so we felt it would be a good idea to introduce/interview various members on MHR who have helped make this place the best place on the web for Bronco's discussion.
Through my history posts, there is one contributer who consistently helps me get things accurate. That guy is Broncfanstuckinsd, also known as Dan the Fan. He and I both share a love of Bronco's history. The difference is, he lived through most of it while I have to read and study most of it. My history lessons are as much a learning exercise for me as it is informing others of it. Thankfully, I have guys like Dan here and firstfan, Trinidad Jack, Mike Clark, and many others out there who remember the darkest days of the 60's and the coming out party of the 70's.
Through them, the younger generations have a chance to continue to respect the past and build towards the future. As for the next interview, I would like to see if there is any member out there that people would like to see interviewed. Feel free to email me your requests at mhrhistory@gmail.com and I will contact the person who gets the most votes to inquire about a possible interview.
Hope you enjoy this conversation with Dan the Fan!
When and how did you become a Bronco fan? Describe the first Bronco game you can remember.
Wow, the first game I can remember is the AFC title game of 1977, on New Years Day 1978. My family went over to my aunt and uncles. They lived in Broomfield off of highway 287. It has changed since then, plus I haven’t been home since 1994. Well anyway that was the birth of my Bronco fanaticism. The play that sticks out is when Craig Morton hit Haven Moses on a 64 yard TD pass. It was awesome. When Moses was around the fader 25, he was looking around and there was nobody with in miles of him. Then when Denver ran the clock out and the stadium went crazy. I will never forget the fans tearing down the goal posts and passing them over their heads to the rows behind them. It was awesome. I still get chills thinking about it, to this day.
Describe the course of your fandom. Did you start out fanatical, have there been lulls or dry periods for you?
I am a total fanatic when it comes to the Broncos. Just to tell you, my first car was a Mercury Bobcat and it was Bronco orange. I kid you not. It just kind of worked that way. My friends really did not give me no crap because they said, “Well, Dan is such a huge Bronco fan.” But I had posters, team photos and media guides from 1979 on. Down in our basement I had a poster of Elway in his road whites playing in his first game against Pittsburgh in 1983.
Have you noticed any differences from the way a Bronco fan was back in the 70's compared with the fans of today?
I think they are as different as they are alike. I think the older Broncomaniacs are a little more patient. They have been thru the 2-11-1 seasons, the blowouts to the faders and Mizzou Indians. I think they are willing to see the team struggle for a season or two if it will ensure the product has a real legit shot at doing something in the playoffs. Some of the newer Bronco fans are spoiled in a sense; been use to playoff appearances and Super Bowls. I have overlapped both. I think it is great that we want the Broncos to go 12-4 each year and to expect less is the way I want my team, but I also want it sustained. I don’t want 12-4 this season 9-7 next season and then 4-12 and a total rebuild. I would take a 7-9 followed by a 8-8 or so, knowing then the years following Denver is the team to beat.
That is what Denver has in Shanny. I don’t want to seem like I am demeaning anyone its just in today’s society instant gratification and success seems to be too important. I want long term success. Does one SB win equal 7-8 years of crappy football? Not to me, I do want another title here, but I want it to where defending it the following season is possible and the years after they are considered a contender each year.
Lots of longtime fans break up their love of the Broncos into different eras. Do you do that, and if so, how do you classify those eras?
If I had to break them into era it would go like this:
1960-72 would be the growing pains era. I mean those teams were awful. If you think about it, in 1962 Denver was 7-7 which was the best record they would have until 1973.
Then I go from 1973-1982 as the first taste of success era. The first winning season in 1973, a botched fake punt in the final game of 1973 at Oakland cost them a chance to win the Division. Then the 1977-79 Playoffs and a Super Bowl appearance. To tell you the truth, I think the Broncos were just happy to get there. As poorly as they played they had their chances to win that Super Bowl, but 8 turnovers is Mt. Fuji to climb. With all those turnovers they only lost by 17. It took until Super Bowl XXVII for Buffalo to break that record and they had 9 turnovers and lost 52-17.
From 1983-1998 is the Elway years. If Denver wins a Super Bowl before they did it would have been considered a Dynasty. It was the most exciting time to ever be a Bronco fan, no matter what. 5 Super Bowl appearances and 6 AFC title games, along with great regular season and playoff games. Nothing could have been better. What a way to put an exclamation mark on that era than beating Dan Reeves and the Falcons 34-19 with the greatest QB of all time winning the MVP of the game.
Now we are what I like to call the Shanny era. Hopefully it gets renamed from 2006 as the Cutler era, but I am gonna stick with 1999-? as the Shanny era. Good things will happen.
What is your most cherished memory from the Orange Crush days?
The Orange Crush days is the Super Bowl appearance. To have the great defense they had with Gradishar, TJ, Bob Swenson, Billy Thompson, et al. That was a true defensive football team.
Do you have any personal Bronco moments in your past, a chance meeting with a player perhaps, or a one on one at an autograph session that stands out?
Let’s see, I met Steve Watson at an event at Water World. It was a private party for certain members of the public. He was the coolest person. He also was a coach when I went to a Sam Pagano football camp. Was one of the nicest guys ever. Wanted to talk to us, and he was insightful.
We are all incredibly impressed with your feats of memory. Is there anything at all that is difficult for you to recall about the Broncos? Names of cheerleaders, seat and row designations at old Mile High, anything?
I don’t really have a difficult time remembering anything. If I have a weakness its the 1960's. I remember the Pony Express, but they disbanded them after some of the girls posed for Playboy(Do that today and its a badge of honor). I just love the history of the Broncos so much, It’s like if you really like something enough you can retain the info. Well that’s what I do. I was great in school about math and things I like, Language arts and crap like I hated.
Do you know of any great Bronco performances that many may not remember from years past?
Sure, in 1979 Seattle comes to town. Norris Weese was the starter, why I have no clue, but he led the Broncos to resounding 34-10 deficit. In comes ole Craig Morton and three touchdown passes and a rushing touchdown later Denver is up 37-34 and that was the final. My parents won a trip to St. Maarten in the virgin Islands, so I was at my uncles. He missed it.
Also, in 1977 Denver is down to the Chargers 14-3 in the 3rd quarter, but had a Moses TD pass from Morton to come back and win the game. Another great one was in 1979 when the #1 offense in the NFL, Air Coryell, came into town. Denver beats them 7-0. To shut out that offense was a testament to Denver’s defense.
If you could choose one Broncos player (excluding Elway) to stand for what the Broncos represent to you, who would it be and why?
Man, that’s tough. Floyd Little comes to mind, then there is Billy Tompson, and Randy Gradishar. Taking smack was TJ. Rod Smith is a great one. hmmmm , there are so many quality former Broncos. I would say anyone who is on the Ring of Fame.
Obviously you are in the camp that feels the Broncos are underrepresented in the hall of fame, but what do you think about the Broncos Ring of Fame? Any glaring omissions there?
Dan Reeves should be there. No doubt about it. But I think its well represented right now. I would like to see Howard Griffith there, but I honestly don’t think he did enough or play long enough as a Bronco. Maybe they could put the 1997-98 Broncos up there as a team.
*NOTE: Dan asked to add Simon Fletcher to this answer. Along with Dan Reeves, Simon Fletcher would be a good addition to the Broncos storied Ring of Fame.
How much of your time is wasted/utilized on MHR?
I spend a good portion of my time on-line at MHR. Its my first stop each day, before checking e-mail. When I first found it, I liked it, but it was missing something. I don’t know what, but to me it wasn’t as fun. Then around the Chicago loss, last year, something happened. I was there everyday reading Guru, Styg, HT, and you breaking things down and agreeing with what was being said. No bashing like in the Denver Press, or no ignorant commenting saying Shanny has to go, Cutler is a bum and crap like that. I found out that I had a forum and a group of friends that had the passion for the Broncos as I did, and who looked at the glass as half full and not half empty. It was great. It has only gotten better.
Tell us something cool about Dan the Fan that we don't know.
What you don’t know about the fan is that I am really into the History of the Broncos and NFL. Me and my buddy Shawn use to go out on the town and go into certain bars and bet the bartenders beers on football knowledge. I would say I would win 8 of 10 times. So many times we would have so many free beers and that was awesome. Another thing is I have a huge collection in Denver of Bronco collectibles, like pennants from Super Bowl 12, game programs from the 60's, 70's and autographed footballs from the all-time greats of Bronco lore.
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Really neat
Awesome post and I especially loved the “betting for beers” but being Irish that may not be world news. Great job guys.
by Steve O' on Oct 24, 2008 3:56 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but do you have Denver Bronco placemats form the 1977 team (I do)
I also used to have a collection of the old orange crush cans with all the Broncos faces on them, but my mom made me throw them out when ants started to detect the sweat smell of Orange Crush.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 24, 2008 4:06 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
I have a 1997 Super Bowl Program.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least I "think" I do...the wife tends to throw my stuff away.
Why is it women see their man’s “pre-marriage” possessions as junk, yet they display their “pre-marriage” possessions all over the house? lol
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of my stuff is in a box in the garage she is not allowed to touch
Includes old helmets, my collection of cards from the 1978 through 1988, placemats, and some assorted other stuff (old shirts and an autograph from Randy Gradishar) which used to hand in my room.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 24, 2008 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sory hang in my room
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 24, 2008 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have an old school helmet from the 80's...
I am thinking about tearing out the foam so it’ll fit again. I am being John Elway for halloween. Even though, since his retirement, he has: Had an affair on his wife, engaged himself to a Raiderette, spoke at a political rally and totally disavowed himself from the Denver Broncos and their fans. Other than that, he is still my hero! lmfao
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes wives are like that
Lets put it this way, when I met my wife we had about the same amount of possesions, my possesions now fit into two or three boxes, her’s fill up our garage. And we usally have a garage sale every year, so wher they keep coming from, I have no idea.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 24, 2008 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, she makes fun of me.
If we were ever to separate, I’d have my computer, my clothes, and my Bronco “crap”. lol I tell responded with something like, “I don’t mind, what else would I need really?” > :-)
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am always of the motto, if you can't fit it in your car, you probably don't need it
I miss my college days when I could fit all my possesions into my 69 ford fairlane: that included a futon bed, my dog, my books, my clothes, and all my Bronco gear.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 24, 2008 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...I wasn't quite that bad.
Though all of the crap I brought into our relationship is all but gone. Oh! I forgot to include my guns. I will have those too. So clothes, computer, bronco gear, and guns…really…what else do you need after a nasty breakup?
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
My college stuff fit into my 76 Vega Wagon
but also included a mini beer fridge and stereo system with BIG speakers!
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano
by DesertBroncoFan on Oct 27, 2008 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was funny was in the late 1970's and early you could get anything with Broncos on them that had players on them
I remember for awhile I had dinner trays with the defense on them, it was a crazy time. I wish I had kept better care of the stuff, but when you are 8 it is hard to think of increased collector value of a Bob Swenson can.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 24, 2008 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
classic.
I wonder how much lead you ingested as a young lad eating off those trays. :)
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 4:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plenty, lead tastes sweat, so I am guessing I always licked the trays clean.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 24, 2008 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry "sweet"
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 24, 2008 4:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you still have your Orange Crush t shirt?
Man I have so many of those types of things. I also had 2 goal posts that help all 14 of the AFC and NFC team helmets on them. Little plastic things. Also had these poseable football players and a football field. The only thing that compares to my Bronco collection was my Star Wars collection. yes, I am a total closeted geek
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 24, 2008 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Orange crush T-Shirts (got destroyed playing football and baseball)
I used to have all the plastic helmets, but I gave it to a friend who had a son. I got rid of the Star Wars collection last year thanks to the wife.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 24, 2008 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish they still sold Orange Crush T-Shirts...I'd buy one.
I also have a tiny helmet collect. From the early 90’s. All the old school helmets. lol I have them wrapped up in a 20 year old plastic bag stuffed into a 25 year old cup. lol
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
I remember when Dairy Queen would put their sunday’s in a plastic helmet. I had about 10-12 of those. I have the entire fleer or topps (i cant remember which) unopended football cards for 1989. A 1977 team photo thats set in a oak frame. Plus I also have a recap of the 1977 season, its narrated by Bob Martin. Its on vinyl. My all time favorite line by him “The Miracle has happened, the Broncos are going to the Super Bowl” Awesome
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 24, 2008 5:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am of the younger generation...so my most memorable line is:
“The Broncos have DONE IT!”
;-)
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wish I had one of those
I do have a Superbowl XXI (v. Giants) one. I still have the Sports Illustrated from 1997 along with a DP and RMN from the day after.
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
by Darin H on Oct 24, 2008 7:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had the Arby's glasses
with TJ, Alzado and Morton on them. The TJ glass is the only one that survived. I’m pretty sure I saw it in the glass cabinet not too long ago (along with all the assorted pint glasses I’ve collected from various bars).
The wife is pretty good at storing my Bronco glassware away because she knows I’ll have a fit if it disappears!
I had a 3 Amigos t-shirt that got destroyed by being washed too many times. This was the shirt I wore to my first Broncos/chargers game in San Diego since it was mostly white and only had a little bit of orange on it. I wasn’t sure if it was going to be like a faders game where I could get stabbed or shot for wearing the other teams colors (I had just moved to SD so I was being cautious). Turns was severely under-oranged since more than half the crowd was Broncos fans!
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano
by DesertBroncoFan on Oct 27, 2008 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zappa and bronc...sd Thanks for the great post!
Zappa, I sent a vote for an interview with Silverblood. You both have a great sense of ‘asking and saying what you think.’ Should be very entertaining.
The best defense is a good offense!
I hope.
by Mike Clark on Oct 24, 2008 5:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
styg asked many of the questions up there...i suppose in the future I should mark which one of us asked which question.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are so many interesting personalities on MHR...
that whoever ends up getting interviewed will be cool with me!
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 24, 2008 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine job Zappa!! Thanks!
The best defense is a good offense!
I hope.
by Mike Clark on Oct 24, 2008 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was cool
Nice job Zappa and thanks broncfanstuckinsd for you answers. That was really fun to read.
I always like hearing how other Bronco fans became fans and some of their memories.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Oct 24, 2008 11:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing that has always impressed me about you, broncosfanstuckinsd, ...
…is you memory of all things Bronco, especially the minutia. I really am in awe. I can’t remember a quarter of that stuff, but you come along, pick the lock on my memory, and a lot of it comes rushing back. I’ve got to say thanks to you, buddy.
Imagine I’m lifting up a beer, (Coors, of course) and toasting you. “Here’s to you, Dan the fan, and may we do the same in real life, and with a real beer, come next training camp at the MHR convention!”
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Oct 25, 2008 8:27 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
You betcha next training camp I will be there come hell or highwater
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 25, 2008 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent all round....
Great to know you a bit better SD.
I am a relatively new fan of the Broncos from Australia. I live here now, so it is great to here some of the history….it really helps!
I became a fan when Denver beat the Packers in a boil over. They were going off at good odds in sportsbet in Australai and me and 3 friend won $5000 each on them…watched the game and became an instant fan of Elway and TD. This coming from a rugby guy.
Now I just love the game and the broncos.
Thanks for all the posts guys!
by boydy2669 on Oct 26, 2008 1:21 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I been to Australia
twice, once to Geraldton in 1989 for a week, it was awesome. Then in 1995 to Sydney. That too was awesome. I had a great time there. They people were nothing but nice cool and awesome to drink with. Those are some of my most fondest memories ever. Glad to have you aboard.
Also one of my favorite avatar is of Krystal forscutt. =)
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
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