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A Bronco In Britain, Part I: Mystifying the locals

Note: If you are interested in reading about the parts of England that do not have to do with football, you can do so at http://oxford-girl.blogspot.com. Be forewarned, I am bad at updating.

Well, I have finally carved some time out of my insanely busy schedule to give you all an update on what it is like being a football fan on the other side of the pond. Since I don't know when this rare occasion might strike again, I must carpe the diem. Nor can I promise that this will be a regular series, as Guru asked, but I will file dispatches whenever there is something interesting to report.  Theoretically, I am going to my first official “football” match this coming Saturday (Oxford United vs. York City) and will have to report back on the intricacies of crowd craziness here. I’ve heard it’s quite something to behold. I’ll also have to chase down a rugby match at some point, as it’s technically more like what we know football to be like. This can likely be found in Scotland, as it’s the sort of game that appeals to them. (Key: lots of head-smashing). But it's popular in England as well, so I just have to find one first.

Star-divide

I have been in England for close to a month now, and yes, I am beginning to sorely miss the taken-for-granted fact that on Saturdays and Sundays, you just crash out in front of the tube and happily while away the rest of the day watching college and NFL ball. This does not happen here for three basic reasons: a) I don’t have a TV, b) they don’t show regularly scheduled American sports, and c) I don’t have weekends free anyway, those are for homework. 1:00 PM games start here at 6:00, and forget about Sunday Night or Monday Night Football. Although I am usually still up at 1:30 am, which is when they begin and when I could presumably watch online at NFL.com, I am still up because I am finishing work. Opening an actual football game would be the end of that, and so I must satisfy myself with watching the colored... er, coloured... lines go this way and that. It is not a replacement, but it is still the best I can muster. I am continuing to hunt down spots that will be used for playoff games, which, despite taking place at inconvenient hours, are still not something I am planning to miss. Hey, I am an American, after all. And our football is still better, yee-haw. (Don’t tell them I said that).

So far as I can tell, football here is just as big as, if not more so, than the popularity of the NFL in America. It’s especially amusing from the life-and-death way in which it’s covered in the newspapers, with whole sections breathlessly relating whose owner said what and who got into which fight. As if this isn’t enough, the British tabloids are even more incessantly voyeuristic and navel-gazing than American ones, and one of the first things I learned in my "Introduction to Britain" lecture, to my amusement, was of the popularity of "Wags." This stands for "wives and girlfriends" of football players, who are apparently a subject of great interest. It is definitely a whole cult of celebrity around here, although I haven’t seen nearly as many Beckham jerseys as I was expecting. And two tidbits of football advice for you to take to heart if you ever find yourself in England: 1) you need to know who’s atop the Premier League (currently, Chelsea) and 2) Nobody likes Manchester United. They’re the Patriots of English football. (From our Tower of London tour: "And then they cut off their ‘eads and stuck ‘em up on pikes, as a reminder of the fate that awaits all traitors to the crown. Or Manchester United supporters." Big laugh.)

English football standings are too complicated to explain and even I have little idea how they work, so I will save myself the embarrassment of attempting to do so. Instead, we shall move on to what the British think of American football – which is, they bemusedly wonder how we can call it "football" when we spend half the time throwing it, but nonetheless seem to enjoy it for the same reasons we do – it’s fun to see big guys run into each other. Wembley Stadium, usually the home of the English national team, sold out almost immediately for the Chargers/Saints game, and there were 83,000-odd intrigued Londoners and American expats packing the stands for said event. (And yes, no matter the fact that one ticket costs twice my weekly grocery budget – which is already down to a minimum as it is – I did look into buying one. Fortunately, they were sold out, thereby saving my microscopic bank account. Or is that unfortunately? Either way, it might be a troubling sign that I like football more than eating).

This is what Wembley looks like (obviously set up for English, not American, football)

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Even though I didn’t get to represent, there was this fine fan in attendance:

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Which made me very happy.

The only problem with the game was that I didn’t get to watch it live (long story) and that it meant Phyllis was about 3,000 miles too close to me. And the only thing more amusing than imagining him terrorizing Londoners was reading the coverage afterwards – for some reason, I get a big kick out of the way Brits cover American football. Sean Payton had to patiently explain the whole system of downs to a British reporter, so it’s fair to say that they are a little confused about the rules, but took wholeheartedly to cheering for the Saints, who were supposed to be the home team. (I approve). They even had a whole video series dedicated to explaining the "physics of American football." Never knew it was so scientific, eh? Might give HoosierTeacher a run for his MHR University money (HT, in case you find yourself with nothing better to do and all the way over here in England, there are a lot of Brits you could instruct on the finer points of football).

In any case, the headline on BBC Sport was: "Saints pip San Diego at Wembley," which I found to be amusing. I also thought it was amusing that the article began, "Drew Brees gave a passing masterclass to 83,226 fans as the New Orleans Saints triumphed 37-32 over his former side San Diego at Wembley. But rival QB Philip Rivers threw for three scores of his own as the second NFL regular-season game in London went down to the wire." This is amusing, at least to me, because "side" is what they call teams here, and I liked the contrast between the British vocabulary and the thoroughly American subject. They, of course, called it a "match" here, so hopefully the fans got their money’s worth. Since English football is also a rather violent sport, they no doubt were pleased with all the bashing.

As for me, I make a habit to wear my Cutler jersey on game days, although neither time has it brought any luck to the Broncos against either Jacksonville or New England (okay, we won’t remind anyone about that). No comments of note yet, although the first day I was wearing it about, I did get a few curious looks. I suppose it’s a good way of advertising that I am an American and like that "other" sort of football. I’ll wear it to Saturday’s match, just to see if I get mistaken for an opposing fan and somebody tries to shank me in the parking lot. While I doubt this will happen, it would always make a good story. More likely, I will end up getting into a spirited debate, which I would also welcome.

I will report back from the front lines after my sociological exercise on Saturday. Until then...

Cheers,

Silver

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Wear your jersey again this week...we'll up your record to 1-2 in jolly ole England! :)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Oct 29, 2008 1:24 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great update!

I thought it would be amusing to read what the English papers said about the game after it was over. How many actual Brits do you think were actually at the game, though? From what I’ve heard (mainly on Youtube from disgruntled British idiots that feel threatened by the NFL’s popularity) it seems like most of the people there were either formerly of the U.S. or there on military assignment.

I just have a few more questions, like, “how bad is the English food?” and stupid things like that, but I don’t want to detract from your schedule. Good luck with your studies too!

*Breathes into bag. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan.

by papigrande on Oct 29, 2008 4:49 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

mostly brits

Hey papi, I can assure you that most of the people there were Brits, there were quite a few Americans, some Irish, some Dutch and Germans but the vast vast majority were us limeys.

and the sing along songs will be our scriptures - we gotta stay positive!

by Orange & Blue Badger on Oct 29, 2008 4:51 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thankfully

I have tonight off, so you’re not distracting me from anything. =) As for the food, I don’t eat anything too unusual — a lot of fruit and sandwiches, since it’s cheap — so I can’t really answer that. Fish and chips are good, though.

Blast and botheration.

by Silverblood on Oct 29, 2008 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

In that case...

What do the Brits think of the game in general? Do they follow it at all? Are they familiar with the terminology, or did you find yourself explaining things over and over? Are there any leagues in Britain? I’ve always wanted to study abroad in Japan, and I know they have a league and from the looks of it their team is pretty good, but how is the following in England? Do people waer jerseys on days other than the game, or do they just bust out whatever they have once a year? Do people look at you funny when you wear your Cutler jersey? And what is their view on America in general? On things like the economic crisis (are they in a recession as well?) and the presidential election (do they follow it?)

I think it’s awesom to have MHR faithful internationally (Badger- you included!) and, as I’ve never been outside the country, I want to know as much about the world as possible. Keep up the good work, too! I know it’s probably hard on time doing two blogs as well as going to a school as prestigious as Oxford, and it’s cool that you take the time to keep us all updated. I’m kind of in the same boat you are time-wise; I’m doing the IB Diploma and wishing I wasn’t, (though it will probably help me out in the long run, even if the only local school that recognizes it is Kansas. ugh.) and combined with football I waste far too much time on here. I’ve got about two hours of biology homework I need to be doing, and an hour of math, but one has to have his priorities, right? Broncos come first :)

*Breathes into bag. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan.

by papigrande on Oct 29, 2008 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a matter of fact

I haven’t really had anyone ask me about American football, but since I’ll be wearing my Cutler jersey to the game on Saturday, I expect I’ll get the ninth degree then, so I’ll tell you in my subsequent update what they do (or don’t) know about it. As for leagues, I don’t believe there’s an American football league, but there IS rugby and soccer. That’s why it’s such a big deal when the NFL comes over, and I get the sense that most Brits enjoyed watching it, even if they didn’t always know all the rules.

America is a popular theme, and people definitely don’t look at you as the uncultured backwater hick (fortunately, I do not present myself as one. Heh). This isn’t the first time I’ve been out of the country before, but definitely the longest (also been to Canada and Mexico, but only a week in each, and I’m here in England until next June). And actually, they are in the exact same boat as us economically, right down to the disputed £500 billion bailout plan passed by their government, which is just about as popular as our $700 billion bailout plan is here. (However, this somehow does nothing to lower my exchange rate…. grrrr). The newspapers are interested in the US election, and I’ve heard one or two people discussing it, so there’s definitely an awareness of it. (If I have to stay up all night on election night, so be it). And yes, this is the first night in quite a while that I haven’t had homework; I am getting to the point of actually being intimidated by how much I have, heh, and that doesn’t happen easily. Good on you for doing the IB diploma! But make sure the biology isn’t neglected entirely, lol.

Blast and botheration.

by Silverblood on Oct 29, 2008 5:30 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is a British league

Its the BAFL (British American Football League), which doesn’t get a lot of publicity, certainly none in the mainstream media. The Britbowl was won by Coventry recently:

http://www.bafl.org.uk/

and the sing along songs will be our scriptures - we gotta stay positive!

by Orange & Blue Badger on Oct 29, 2008 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s also the BUAFL – British Universities league. I’m currently a member of the Oxford Cavaliers. We’ve got out first game on sunday (scrimmage) which should be fun.

And Silver – if you want to see a rugby game, check out a college rugby match. They’re on Tuesdays or Thursdays. It’s not quite the same as going to a stadium to watch it, but it’s a good place to start. If you want to see a “proper” match, the closest Premiership team are London Irish who play in Reading.

by Muse_Cubed on Oct 30, 2008 2:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was there and so were many other broncos

nice report SB!

I had the pleasure of being at Wembley for the match and there were a good many Broncos fans in attendance I’m pleased to report, I saw Cutler, Bailey, McCaffrey, Elway and TD shirts, personally I had my #72 George Foster jersey who clearly isn’t worth mentioning in the same breath. Naturally the most seen jerseys were the two teams playing. A Saints fan had a cool poster of Phyllis with “CRY ME A RIVERS” in bold caps, he had great pleasure waving it at each incomplete and for the pick.

We had a challenge to see all 32 NFL team jerseys, I thought we’d miss out on the lot but at 10.30 just before the train from Waterloo, there were a couple of old Barry Sanders Lions shirts and an incredibly faded Jake Plummer Cardinals shirt to complete the set.

Oxford vs York will be a pretty low key introduction to the English game as both teams now find themselves in non-league football, which is a shame as they both have a decent following. Expect a crowd of around 4500-5000 fans, which is very good for that level. If you ever want to see a Premier League match, you’re welcome down in Portsmouth anytime.

and the sing along songs will be our scriptures - we gotta stay positive!

by Orange & Blue Badger on Oct 29, 2008 4:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I figured

Oxford vs. York would be the minor-league equivalent to English football, so it would be a good way to start out (and the only football club that’s anywhere near me… transportation being limited). I would love to see a Premier League match, and may do some traveling during one of my breaks, but money is always an issue. I’ll keep it in mind, though.

Blast and botheration.

by Silverblood on Oct 29, 2008 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

other local teams

trains from Oxford to Reading are pretty frequent, that’d be a nice local stop off for you. Reading are doing quite well in the Championship (one level below Premier) and their stadium is pretty new although the atmosphere isn’t great the couple of times I’ve been there and I suspect its pricier than Oxford’s games. Swindon isn’t too far either, they’re in the third tier, which is rather confusingly called League One (its a long story!)

and the sing along songs will be our scriptures - we gotta stay positive!

by Orange & Blue Badger on Oct 29, 2008 5:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the post Silverblood

That’s too bad you couldn’t go to or see the game, however I know you were excited that the Chargers lost.

Question: I figure there were a lot of people wearing NFL jerseys this past week since there was a game over there. Was that just for this week or do you see people wearing NFL gear throughout the season?

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4

by weazel on Oct 29, 2008 4:52 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard to say

I haven’t seen a lot of NFL gear here, but strangely enough… the jersey/sweatshirt I did see were the raiders and the Chefs. I thought that was rather amusing.

Blast and botheration.

by Silverblood on Oct 29, 2008 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are fader gang bangers in England?

The Royals must be beside themselves :-)

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by DesertBroncoFan on Oct 30, 2008 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Live-ish from wembley

Yep, I was at wembley and was going to do a live comment from the stadium but my stupid phone battery…..

Highlight of the day for me was walking up Wembley Way on the way to the stadium and being collared by three other groups of Bronco fans for a group picture. Although sadly I was the only person I saw wearing orange. The crowd was a good mix – there were lots of Brits, but plenty of British / European based Americans and lots of people from the Continent who got their NFL Europa Jerseys out.

As far as Jerseys – there were plenty of Saints and Chargers as you’d expect but I reckon the Broncos were in the second tranche of popularity, along with the Fins, the Cowboys and surprisingly the Eagles. I was sitting next to a guy in a pre-expansion Browns jersey. As O&BB said, you could see every jersey if you tried. As far as seeing them outside of a “game” its unlikely – and I’d bet most of the people wearing them probably picked them up because they’re “American” or look nice and probably couldn’t explain a 3rd and long to you. However, my small bit of Manchester is always Orange on game day.

(One thing I did pick up from the game is that you don’t really know how petulant Rivers is until you’ve watched him live. He was in the ear of the ref all the time and jumping up and down like a little kid when he didn’t get calls his way.)

I reckon next year it’ll be an AFC team that loses its home game, but I’m hopeful the year after that an NFC team will bring our Broncos over the pond.

by mikebirty on Oct 30, 2008 1:15 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wonderful post!

I’ve given a few classes on “football” appreciation for wives and girlfriends at the local library. The best way to explain “downs” is to substitute the word “tries”. So a team has four “tries” to move the ball past the ten yard marker in order to earn four more (though they typically punt on the fourth).

If football ever took off in England, I’d love to go over and either host a show or do game commentary. If you see anyone hiring for that, let me know! : )

Seriously, have a great time and study hard. Oxford is a supreme priviledge, and we’re all pulling for you. I loved the write up, and hope you are able to squeeze in another!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2008 5:42 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...I bet you gave "football" appreciation classes!

just playin…you and styg mess with me so much, I just couldn’t help it. :P lol

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Tim Lynch on Oct 30, 2008 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

..but I didn’t mistake any of the wives or girlfriends for a dude!

lol!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2008 12:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem with "try" is

That’s the Rugby equivalent of a touchdown. “Attempt” would probably also work.

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 1, 2008 6:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought about that.

But I hadn’t considered substituting “attempt”. Great call!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Nov 2, 2008 3:55 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know what its like

loving the Broncos from a far away place. You are so much more lucky than I was. When I was in Japan from 1988-92 there was no internet like it is today. So I had to wait for my parents to send me the Post via snail mail. At sea mail delivery isnt every day. So I would get 3 or 4 games to read about. We would know the scores when it happened but no info.
Nice post.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 30, 2008 12:24 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Went through the same thing

in the Bering Sea. We got these horrible satfaxes which you could barely read and had the world news and scores from all major sports crammed into a single page.

One benefit I enjoyed however was I had one of the bigger rooms on the boat and had a TV/Playstation setup in my room, and I would receive copies of the games to watch. It was a mixed blessing however, as exhaustion tends to be the order of the day. I may be the only person who fell asleep in the first quarter of the Broncos defeat of ATL in the Superbowl…

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 30, 2008 6:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was way better

during the 1996 season we actually could see games if we were close enough to land. I was on a crackpac in the winter of 96 to feb 97. When we were outside of Ecuador the ship was able to get the feed of the Broncs/Jags game where Denver was upset. (so was I ). That was cool. Its even better now, all combat ships are equipped with the capabilities to get satellite tv games now. I suffered so todays squids didnt have to. =)

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 30, 2008 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stay sane over there Silver

If you start to get homesick shoot us a line. We always love to hear your commentary!

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 30, 2008 6:51 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Study hard! Always good to see a Broncos fan doing well.

Really interesting to get the birds-eye view of football in the UK. Thanks.

by Arctic Bronco on Nov 1, 2008 7:29 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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