MHR Chalk Talk -- Week 9 - Miami at Denver
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Denver has a high powered offense that has sputtered a bit since teams adjusted to their spread offense. That offense hasn't relied much on the famous zone block run as of late, and Denver's scores have decreased as the season goes on. The defense has been awful, ranking in the basement in terms of yards allowed both in rushing and passing. Denver's star defensive player is out about four weeks (Champ Bailey) and the starting strong side LB is out for good. That's the bad news.
The good news is a division lead, and the return of some injured players on offense. Also, a young men is gearing up for his first professional start. Can you hear the whistle blowing? Will it be enough against Miami?
Miami is an odd team. They've beaten teams they weren't expeccted to (NE, SD, and BUF), and lost to eaiser teams (ARI, NYJ, HOU). They're a fun team to watch in the running department (the Wildcat, which is kind of a single wing / run option spin off), have a great blitzer of the weak side in 3-4 OLB Porter, and play the pass well behind a short ranged but deadly accurate Pennington.
What can we expect, and why? Answers follow below the fold...
Denver can reach the magic 10-6 (the likely standard for a playoff spot) mark if they win the games that they should win, including this home game against Miami. While Denver is expected to win this game, there are plenty of potential problems in the match-up.
MIA Pass Offense / DEN Pass Defense
Pennington is a smart QB, and has an accurate arm. He doesn't have the arm for long passes, but in MIA that's ok. He has good weapons in underdog Camarillo and Ginn at WR, and faces a suspect Denver secondary.
Denver will be without Champ Bailey, and will likely see Paymah playing at #1 CB. While fans are critical of Dre Bly (who has the second most INTs in the League since 1999 with 38), some fans (like me) are more apt to blame the poor pass rush or the lack of two deep safeties.
Paymah is likely playing for his very job with Denver. He displaced Foxworth (who is no longer with the team), but is at risk from upcoming CB J. Williams. In the last year of his contract, he needs to play well. Bly has been in a drought since he joined the team, along with Champ Bailey, both of whom who have had little support from other defensive cast members.
One of those cast members may be turning the corner. Pass rush specialist Dumervil, who suffered a broken finger, seemed recovered enough to break through the Patriots offensive line a few times. If he can get past a solid MIA offensive line on Sunday (which features 2008 draft star Jake Long), the secondary might have a chance for a good game.
Denver can go one of two routes this game. They can try for the pass rush option (with some blitzing thrown in) to try and hassle Pennington. Oddly enough, this is one game Denver might even benefit from the 3 man rush that has been so inneffective so far this year. With Pennington throwing short and medium range passes, LBs in zone may not be sch a bad thing afterall.
MIA Run Offense / DEN Run Defense
Denver has the speed to short circuit runs to the edges. The trouble they face against MIAs RBs is the failure to tackle. There should be little concern about the "wildcat" offense given the two weeks Denver has had to prepare. Keeping your assignment, not overpursuing, and plugging the gaps are the ways to stop such a program. But tacklling is such a fundemental skill on defense, and Denver has done so poorly for the first seven games, that one has to wonder if they have yet mastered that basic skill. If you can't tackle on defense, no other skill set matters.
The loss of Boss Bailey for the season may be a hit, or it may make room for someone on the depth chart to shine.
MIA Offensive Overview
Miami's key to success, despite the lack of major name talents, is the simplicity of what they do on both sides of the ball. Pennington is very capable of completing most of his passes, and his receivers run good routes. MIA also runs the ball well. Against Denver Miami should come out throwing early. MIA has a reasonable shot of picking up yards after the completion given Denver's pass coverage and lack of tackling problems. Using short, high percentage throws, MIA can eat the clock, hope for a breakaway play, and set up the run game to give Denver fits.
For their part, Denver needs to tackle well, keep passes in front of the safety(ies), and pressure Pennington.
DEN Run Offense
Ryan Torrain may start this game. Expectations are unfairly high for a guy who hasn't played a game since an injury in college. He looked phenomininal in the preseason, but fans shouldn't be hard on what this kid does or doesn't do in his first game (if this is going to be it).
If Torain doesn't play, or comes out making mistakes, Pittman will be carrying the load in an attempt to keep the heat off of Cutler. If Torain comes out playing well, the two players would make a great combination of power up the middle that could go far towards reestablishing the famous Denver running game.
On the MIA side, they have a very good defensive line. Ferguson is excellent as a run stopper, and the entire front makes things easier for the LBs to get into plays. Like Denver, MIA will sometimes mix up the 4-3, 3-4.
DEN Pass Offense
MIA does one thing well, and another thing poorly. What they do well is bring pressure. Porter (ROLB) is an excellent blitzer on the weakside. He'll not only be a challenge for Clady (who has allowed zero sacks), but will make the Denver bootleg play very, very difficult to carry out without Cutler getting hurt (on rolls to the left). If either Scheffler or Stokley can play Sunday, Cutler will have enough weapons to spread the field. Teams have been covering Marshall well, and Cutler is still learning to go through his checkdowns and to look off his throws.
The good news is that MIA is not strong in their secondary. The team that once boasted Surtain and Madison has lost the elite reputation for CBs, and is vulnerable. Denver should do well in the pass game if Cutler is patient and limits turnovers.
General Overview
This is a game that should be determined in the trenches. The running games of each team depend on the lines, and both teams have secondaries that need for the lines to play well.
Both teams have solid OLs. Denver has the better QB, but Pennington is still solid. MIA has a much better DL and LBs, while Denver has a better secondary (though not playing at all well).
The keys to this game are simple -
DEN
- If they don't tackle well, they don't win.
- Limit INTs
- Get an early lead
Notice that 2/3s of Denver's keys are to just limit mistakes.
MIA
- Pressure Cutler
- Avoid a shootout
- Force Denver to try and stop the run
Match-ups to watch
Denver DE Dumervil and OLB Williams vs MIA LT Long
and
MIA OLB Porter vs DEN LT Clady
Conclusion
This is a game MIA needs if they want to stay in the hunt for the post season. While it is still too early to be a must win game for Denver, the truth is that Denver has little room for error going forward, and needs to win home games and games against opponents they are favored to beat.
Denver fans rebounded pretty well from a MNF loss at NE before the bye. They are less likely to recover from a loss to MIA at home. Denver has had two weeks to rest up, recover from injuries, and work on their shortcomings. Excuses won't cut it this week. Denver has to win this game.
I believe that they will, if they don't underestimate a team with a reputation for slaying giants.
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With Boss Bailey out
do you think that we will get a chance to see if Wesley Woodyard is going to move to Sam, or is his size prohibitive?
Fullbacks Rule
by Emmett Smith on Oct 30, 2008 3:07 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they like Winborn over there, but I would like to see Woodyard on the field more.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 30, 2008 3:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest,
I have a really hard time figuring out how the Broncos are making personnel decisions this year. They don’t seem to be following a scheme that I can identify this year, and this makes it hard to guess at what players fit and which don’t. I would like to Woodyard get a shot, but it’s a tough guess as to what the coaches are going to go with.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2008 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magic 8 Ball of course!
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Oct 30, 2008 6:36 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
HT,
Miami has beaten NE, SD and Buffalo.
I don’t know what it is, but I did the same thing when commenting on antoher post (confused MIA and NE).
Playoff bound!
by 53guys on Oct 30, 2008 3:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
You got me!
Thanks, and fixed!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2008 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Shanny will really have the team ready
come Sunday. I am nervous about this game with our recent play and the fact that we are playing Miami. The good this is that it is coming off a bye and we are at home. Despite feeling uneasy about this game I voted for a blowout win because I just think we will be pissed with something to prove.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Oct 30, 2008 3:22 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm nervous because the team took a week off!
At least they got a week of practice in.
On the other hand, maybe a week off isn’t so bad. Maybe the coaches know something we don’t, and the week off was a good move. I’ve never known Shanny to be a weak, bye week coach.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2008 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
do they always get a week off
i mean every year is this what shanny does, i dont rememer
by RiG on Oct 30, 2008 5:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they do take a lot of time off.
But a week off with so many problems looming doesn’t seem like a convential move. Again though, I trust Shanny knows what the guys need more than me.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2008 6:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I flinched when I read an Cutler interview in which he said he just got back to town. Everyone was looking forward to the bye week not just to heal up but to fix mistakes.
We all talked about trying to fix over-persuit, fumbles, and defensive scheming. I hope 1 week of practice was enough…
There is no 'Ctrl' button on Chuck Norris's computer. Chuck Norris is always in control.
Chuck Norris destoryed the periodic table because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
by nickt84 on Oct 30, 2008 6:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Despite thinking we may win this game
I am absolutly nervous. I learned early not to doubt Shanny because he knows what he is doing and I am sure the coaching staff is on top of things. Sometimes players need to clear their head sometimes.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Oct 31, 2008 12:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Denver will win
But it will be close. They have not covered a game since week #2 when they were 1 point dogs against SD. Have not covered at home as a favorite. I am just saying. . . .
It will be close because of the defense and turnovers. I hope Denver wins by 21 but I am going by how the season has played out so far
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 30, 2008 3:25 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I have always told people that when betting on Denver
realize they don’t cover the spread very well, however I hope I am wrong this week. Until we get things rolling I will be nervous from week to week.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Oct 30, 2008 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like that this isn't as much a must win for Denver as it is for Miami...
if you look at our schedule, this is absolutely a must win. I am not too confident about flying into Cleveland, Atlanta, Carolina, or San Diego later this year and if we will need to win at least two of those games to have a shot at winning this division.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 30, 2008 3:36 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe
Outwards the Broncos are downplaying it , but I am hoping internally they are going to play desparate football. A 2 game lead would be huge for the Broncos. I feel they will win, I actually feel better about this game than I have for the previous 2. My question is do I watch it at a bar, or just listen to the stream of the game and join in the thread here. I need help to decide
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 30, 2008 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is a loss
I hate picking against Denver, but Miami is playing well and we are stinking it up. I know the record off the bye week, but we lost our top defensive player and probably the best cover LB we had, so a bad defense becomes a horrid defense now. Looking at Miami offense they have a better QB and much better RB than New England did and now we have fewer starters on defense. I think this may turn ugly quick.
Looking at our offense, I expect more points, but I don’t think our defense can stop anyone, so the pressure will be on the offense, and they don’t seem to respond well to pressure. So nothing to make me believe that we won’t have the same issues with turn-overs that we did last five games.
I really expected something bigger to come out of Dove Valley over the past week, but signing a WR who hasn’t done crap in the NFL wasn’t the news i was hoping for, that is not our weakness. I still can’t believe Lowry and Hall are on this team, and why hasn’t Barret been brought up, anyways, hate to be all doom and gloom.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 30, 2008 3:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
If that is the case, then I don't see us finishing .500
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 30, 2008 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
A point to consider...
Sometimes the loss of good players are a blessing in disguise. A lot of great talent gets discovered from the bench when firs stringers go down.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 30, 2008 5:59 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brady
There is no 'Ctrl' button on Chuck Norris's computer. Chuck Norris is always in control.
Chuck Norris destoryed the periodic table because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
by nickt84 on Oct 30, 2008 6:40 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good example.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Oct 30, 2008 7:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry, we will win
I re-installed my Bronco shrine that my girlfriend made me take down. That should get us back into the winning ways.
by TIMMAH420 on Oct 30, 2008 3:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope the Shrine works!
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Oct 30, 2008 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't ever take the shrine down again.
Consider getting a new girl friend.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Oct 30, 2008 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lots of fish in the sea
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 30, 2008 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And crabs!
(no double entendre intended)
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 31, 2008 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will do so as well. My shrine will be built Sunday morning.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 30, 2008 4:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Broncoman and Zappa
I think Denver gets beat this weekend. I so hope I am wrong but the Wilcat is going to make us tackle in space…and we don’t do that so well. I think Zappa is right on the money about confidence. Denver always seems to play well or even win in games they are underdogs (or against the Raiders) they just seem more prepared. Then we always lay an egg against the bottom dwellers. I remember when Cinci and Corey Dillion set the rushing record against us in what was the most annoying game ever to watch. I don’t trust Denver as much as I did but I know for certain in two years or less they will be darlings of the NFL.
by Steve O' on Oct 30, 2008 4:05 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa! I never said we were going to lose!
If we lose this game then we’ll be lucky to finish 8-8…if we win then I think we reach the 10-6 plateau. Confidence is a fickle b……
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 30, 2008 4:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pity the poor fish this week . . .
I believe the Broncos will come out breathing fire. All their frustrations of the past few weeks will bust out in this game, and the poor Dolphins will be on the receiving end. Denver will not only win, but the game will be over by the end of the third quarter.
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
by AZDynamics on Oct 30, 2008 5:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
The Broncos aren’t going to give the fish a chance this week. The only downside is the second half looks like it will be boring…
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 30, 2008 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Zappa,
That came out wrong. I meant to say I agree with you in that you don’t have the confidence that Denver will win certain games. Sorry
by Steve O' on Oct 30, 2008 5:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
its all good...i am desperate for a win. :)
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Oct 30, 2008 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think They will win
if they score more points than the dolphins.
Just heard a frank caliendo immitation of Madden and he was saying the object to winning is scoring more points than the other team. and his blatant favre love.
Sorry Guru I know he is your favorite player so I wont say bad things about the interception king. (2 more to 300)
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Oct 30, 2008 6:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to be the fan
holding up that sign for the next bretts game!
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 30, 2008 7:19 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post HT
I’d like to elaborate on your keys to the game. For me it comes down to two players stepping up and everyone else limiting (maybe even eliminating) mistakes. The two players?
1. Ryan Clady. The Dolphins get their pressure mano y mano, and Clady will have his hands full adjusting to both DE Vonnie Holliday and OLB Joey Porter. If he shuts those two down, the Dolphins defense will deflate.
2. DOOM. He needs to beat Jake Long, no easy task. It would be really easy to chalk this matchup to attrition and ask for pressure from elsewhere, but that would be evading reality. It HAS to come from DOOM, even when the backers are blitzing.
DOOM needs to get going early and Clady needs to finish strong. I think if those two have great games, the Broncos win. (Remember my caveat about limiting mistakes, which frnakly, we shouldn’t have to say. No team in the NFL says, “Oh, it’ll be ok to look like monkies f—-ing footballs this week. We got this one in the BAG!”)
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 30, 2008 6:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
When Styg starts talking about...
..monkeys copulating with footballs instead of waxing philisophicaly about monkeys typing sonnets, it’s time to hide. I detect some frustration with our team.
: )
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 31, 2008 12:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over and Under...
over 2 turnovers we lose,Under 2 turnovers we win.
by Shiiver on Oct 30, 2008 8:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Another great Chalk Talk, HT!
Rec’d and Buzzed Up for sure!
I can’t wait to finally see Ryan Torain in action. I’m so excited I could pee! But seriously, it’s going to be nice to see him in action, and hopefully we’ll get to see our full-on three headed RB beast for the first time. If Pittman could start, get 18 or so carries for about 90 yards, Torain could get 5-10 with over 50 yards, and Selvin could come in and break a couple of long ones, I think we would be able to control T.O.P and win the game. Also, I think a solid running game would take a lot of pressure off Cutler. If we can move the ball on the ground and limit him to 25-30 throws a game, we instantly become more balanced and the safeties become more beatable.
i think that our #1 goal this week should look like this:
LIMIT TURNOVERS
Seriously, we beat the turnover thing down after the Chiefs game, then we did it again aftet the Jaguars game, and what do they do? Committ 5 more turnovers. I really hope we did some ball handling drills over the bye week.
Another thing: I have not seen 4 quarters of high quality Broncos football since week 1. If the offense can get into and stay in a rhythm, and the defense can make some stops, I think that’s all we need to win about every game. We don’t have to score or force a 3-and-out every time, but we do have to put up points and limit the other team’s points. (This week’s genious insight from papigrande: If we score more points than they do, we win. I thought of that all by myself!) Look at the Titans. They don’t score every time, but they move the ball and control field position, and their defense is tenacious. If we could be like them, we have the talent to make a playoff run.
If I were Mike Shanahan, that’s what I would have drilled those two things into this team for the last two weeks: Limit turnovers and be consistent. That is the key to winning this game, and winning in the playoffs.
*Breathes into bag. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan.
by papigrande on Oct 30, 2008 9:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
bq.I’m so excited I could pee!
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Oct 31, 2008 12:43 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
clicked post by accident....need to be allowed to edit these.
I mean to blockquote that sentence and say I couldn’t stop laughing when I read it. LOL
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Oct 31, 2008 12:46 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness to Papi,
he was refering to comedien Calliendo, who was impersonating Madden (saying the winning team needs to score more points).
The reason I didn’t list turnovers is that (while it is very important) I think the other three keys are even more crucial for this game. I’m expecting the coaches to focus on protecting the ball, but also making some adjustments with Cutler to help him make better decisions without hurting his aggressiveness.
I’m looking forward to Torrain too, but let’s be careful. This is hs first game since college, and I won’t get down on him if he has to adjust to the pros in his very first game. I’m hoping for the best, but I’ll be forgiving if he makes some rookie mistakes.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 31, 2008 12:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
NE as a practice game
Maybe we were just using the NE game as a practice for the Dolphins. Similar to the NE game this game will be won in the trenches. Your analysis above was outstanding as usual but I would like to peel the onion back a little and take a deeper look at Miami’s D Line v Denver’s O line. Our line is young (other than Casey), average to slightly large in size, very agile and very quick. They play well together as a unit. Miami’s front seven is an odd mixture. They are small by comparison to NE in their front three. Their stud NT Jason Ferguson is only 6’3" and 305 which is tiny compared to Wolfork for NE. Miami’s DE’s are smaller than our Guards and Tackles! Ferguson and Holliday are slightly long in the tooth with 12 and 11 years experience respectively and may be a little slower than they were last year. Langford on the other hand is a Rookie. To make up for smallish front three Miami has large LB’s. Ayodele is the smallest at 6’2" and 245. Roth and Crowder are both 4th year players while Ayodele is a 7 year veteran. Porter is the old man of the group with 10 years under his belt but he does not appear to have slwed down much.
Knowing all of this I am going to guess that we will use many of the same plays we originally had scheduled for NE. By that I mean that I feel we will see a lot of two tight end formations and will see a lot of short passes. Porter is known for blitzing the QB and if Cutler reads these properly we could easily see some single coverage on our WR on quick release plays. We could see some three and four step drops. If we are successful at gaining 5+ yards on first down with the running game our play-action passes will be productive as well.
I think our O Line matches up well with Miami’s front seven and I think this helps in the TOP battle and gives our D some needed rest. I will predict a 34-17 Bronco victory since we had a good practice two weeks ago.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Oct 31, 2008 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the third 34-17 I have seen
I also predicted it and Papi called it during MHR radio…. very cool.
And great points by the way. It has been a while since we could honestly say that our oline was bigger than the opponents Dline…
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 31, 2008 5:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on the two TEs.
Many teams like the two TE set to stp the OLBs from blitzing out of a 3-4. I like the idea of putting Graham on the weak side to help Clady, but wouldn’t be surprised if the keep him on the strong side (to help the running game in particular).
I’m hoping we run more this game, but we’ll see. I always hope for that, but it doesn’t seem to happen. Pittman’s ribs are still bruised a bit, and Torain is just making his first start. I wouldn’t have a problem with Hall getting a couple of “make up plays”, but if he drops any he should be done with the team (unless he returns kicks).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Oct 31, 2008 5:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
How good is Joey in run stuffing?
Maybe if we lined up Graham and Clady on him, and ran it right at him a few times while they double teamed him, it would make him less inclined to be agressive, and would curail his rush. What do you think?
*Breathes into bag. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan. At least I'm not a Chiefs fan.
by papigrande on Oct 31, 2008 6:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great idea papi
I say run right at Porter. And when (rather than if) he blitzes Cutler can pick it up and we could have a long gain with our athletic TE or, conversely, run right past him for big gain.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Oct 31, 2008 7:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You bet
Porter played at Colorado State, just up the road from Denver. He knows about altitude, and at his age, he’s already thinking about it. He’ll be blowing by the 3rd quarter.
If there's gonna be a collison, you better start it. Larry Csonka.
by bradley on Oct 31, 2008 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Porter has problems with...
…breaking out of tackles to stop runs. On the other hand, he is a magnificent blitzer.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Nov 1, 2008 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question for HT
Does Miami use the Fairbanks-Bullough system similar to NE? What type of coverage do they use primarily in the secondary? Zone? Mano y mano? With our line I am really excited about the possibility of rushing for a lot of yardage, five at a time! Maybe I am back in the cloud of dust.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Oct 31, 2008 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
They run a Phillips system.
It is closer to the Phillips system than the Fairbanks. They shoot the gaps a little different than SD and DAL do.
I haven’t seen enough of MIAs new defense to know how they use their corners. I would expect them to bump and run in blitz packages, but it depends on how much they respect our passing game.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Nov 1, 2008 3:08 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Perhaps they won’t respect the Cutler-Marshall/Royal/Stokley connection enough.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Nov 1, 2008 4:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume they
will feel overmatched, if not respectful. Except for Yeremiah Bell (and that is a HUGE exception) their DBs leave something to be desired. Cutler needs lotsof time to properly exploit this weakness, and we should be able to get an early lead. If we are giving up sacks early, they may have to change up to some quick 3 and five step drops, and keep trying to run the ball. I am afraid if we give up some sacks early Cutler will move exclusively to the shotgun, which may keep him upright, and he looked good early in the season out of htat formation, but it is for late in the game, not hanging with teams early…
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 1, 2008 5:16 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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