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Monday's With Shanny -- 11.17.08

HEAD COACH MIKE SHANAHAN

On CB Champ Bailey’s injury

“I really won’t know about Champ until Wednesday. He has been jogging and he worked out a little bit last Thursday and jogged some more over the weekend. At practice on Wednesday, we will see how he looks. Other than that, I will address all other injuries we have on Wednesday.”

On if he is counting on Bailey to tell him how he feels

“For sure. He has to go out there and feel good. It was a third-degree injury, so it was actually separated. He is jogging now but until he actually does football related drills, we won’t know for sure. We will get a chance to evaluate that on Wednesday. He will continue to get treatment and hopefully he continues to improve.”

On making practice more physical

“We have had contact every Monday, Wednesday and Thursday for obvious reasons. Our rush defense was going downhill and we felt like we had to tighten things up a bit. We improved in that area over the past few games and we want to keep on doing it. We are trying to get better at what we have been doing. Obviously with the injuries, we can’t experiment with the four-man front. Sometimes we change things up a little. We tackled better yesterday and that is one of the reasons we put on the pads, to get better at tackling.”

On getting Denver’s youthful roster ready to play

“Any time you have walk-throughs and practice with young players, it is their first go-round so we want them to get as many reps as they can. Especially going against a team like Atlanta, who does a lot of different things offensively and in the running game, you have to be on top of your game. I think our coaches did a great job of getting our guys ready. The guys responded and played very well. I think they only had one missed tackle, and that is pretty good against a team like that.”

On having no turnovers against Atlanta

“One of the reasons I thought we would go to pads was so we could practice getting at wide receivers and running backs, stripping the ball and creating more contact so we can learn to hold onto the football better. We put them in situations in practice that they are going to see in the games. Hopefully we can keep it going. We didn’t have a turnover in this game, which is a big positive. Maybe it came by practice or maybe we were lucky. Whatever it was it worked out.”

On whether former S John Lynch’s neck was a concern before he signed with Denver in 2004

“The doctor said his neck was fine, so I didn’t concern myself with it. The doctor told us if we were going to consider John Lynch, don’t let his neck affect your decision, so we didn’t. He had four excellent years and four Pro-Bowls. He is what you look for in a player on and off the football field. I have never been around a guy that was more of a pro than John. He did everything you wanted him to do on the field, he did everything you wanted him to do off the field, he was like a coach around the locker room and you don’t come around (players like him) very often. That’s why I think he will be in the Hall of Fame. “

On the risk of having WR Eddie Royal return kicks

“You always have to weigh that. It’s always a question mark. Obviously Eddie is very valuable to us at wide receiver and as a punt returner. Do you take a chance with him as a kick returner? But when you lose guys like (RB) Selvin Young and (RB) Andre Hall and you want to win football games then you are going to play your best players. You keep your fingers crossed that they stay healthy and you do what you have to do to win. Sometimes you do take more chances that you normally would, but when you lose five running backs it doesn’t really give you much of a choice.”

On Royal’s returning instincts

“That’s one of the reasons why we drafted him. We felt like once he got the ball in his hands as a punt returner or a kickoff returner he had a chance to go the distance every time. (In college) I thought he was under the radar. He did an unbelievable job getting away from bump coverage. In the National Football League, if you can’t get away from bump coverage usually you are coaching very quickly. With his speed, quickness and agility, he has been able to do that from the first day. What we didn’t know was how sharp he was. The game is not too big for him. He has handled himself unbelievably for a rookie relative to his intelligence, the way he goes about his preparation and the way he handles himself on the field. We just hope he keeps on getting better and better.”   

On the 2008 Draft Class

“These guys aren’t only excellent athletes, but they are very sharp football players. Some guys got their opportunity because of injuries and some guys got their opportunity because they proved in practice that they can make plays. One of the things that really stands out is a guy that can consistently make plays on special teams.”

On RB Tatum Bell’s performance against the Falcons

“I think he did a great job. Coming in with just a few days (of) preparation and not being in a football uniform for a number of weeks, to come in and play like he did I think was really a compliment to him.

“(Running Backs Coach) Bobby (Turner) has a lot of confidence in him, and Bobby kinds of switches those guys in and out as he sees fit. He has a great feel and he has a lot of confidence in Tatum.”

On whether Spencer Larsen has a future at fullback or linebacker

“We talked about when we first drafted him. I called him up before we drafted him and said ‘Hey, would you be willing to play fullback?’ He said ‘Coach, I just want to make a football team. I haven’t played fullback since high school, but if that’s where you want me to play I’ll play it.’ I said ‘We’re going to take a look at you both at the fullback position and at the linebacker position.’ So we started him out the first week at the fullback position and the second week at the OTAs at the linebacker position se he could learn all the terminology. In a 45-man squad, you’re not really sure if somebody goes down or if you have a number of injuries you can use a guy (like Larsen). It’ worked out because we’ve had a few guys go down and he has stepped u[p and played well.

“One thing he is doing is making plays on special teams. When you make that many plays on special teams you are going to be a football player whether you are on defense or offense or both. He is just such a quality guy. You talk about a guy you want to go to war with. He doesn’t know anything but 100 percent. He has top character and he is going to be a top player for a long time.”

On what he saw in rookie CB Josh Bell that made him ascend up the depth chart so quickly

“Practice. Guys stand out at practice and he’s been consistent. The first day he came in, he had a little swagger to him. He is very natural coming out of a break; he has great hips; the game is not too big for him. He has a lot of confidence going out there. Hopefully he has a good future as well.”

On LB Niko Koutouvides

Niko, we moved him over to the ‘Will’ linebacker position because I think Niko is still a good linebacker. We have some guys that are playing very special. Niko is a football player in the National Football League. We went back and forth with Tampa (Bay) trying to get him. They had him projected as their starter at ‘Sam’ linebacker.”  

On how S John Lynch compares to former Broncos Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater

“To be honest with you, Dennis Smith is the hardest hitter I have ever been around on any team. Bar none. I think we know what type of player Steve Atwater was. He was very similar to Dennis Smith. John Lynch, we got at the tail end of his career after he was basically let go from Tampa Bay. He came in here and made four Pro Bowls. He has a Super Bowl ring and a bunch of Pro Bowls. I think Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater should still be in consideration for the Hall of Fame.

“You just never know about the Hall of Fame. For us to only have two guys in there with as many Super Bowls that we’ve been to, I can’t understand that. You can go back to a lot of Broncos but every time you talk about it everybody thinks you’re complaining. It’s not right when you take a look at the numbers and the number of guys we got it. How do you explain that? I want everybody that I’ve been with to get in.”

On the Broncos’ defensive penalties that led to Atlanta first downs

“That just shows you what kind of game we were capable of playing. We gave them a fourth-and-1 and there is no excuse for it. You have to keep your concentration level. I think everybody in the stadium knew they weren’t going to run the football except us. We jumped offsides and that was seven points. To win on the road and make some of the mistakes that we made just shows a lot about our guys. Normally if you make one of those mistakes you don’t win. We made two or three of those mistakes and we were still able to pull it out.”

 

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Why the John Lynch questions?

Sorry I like Lynch, but he is retired, we are in the middle of a football season, hold those questions till after the season. Seriously, if that is what passes for journalism these days, that is sad.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 17, 2008 6:04 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I was very interested in those questions

How many players have we had who made the Pro Bowl every single year he played for us? Lynch was a very special guy, and it was a privilege for us to have him for those years. Besides, the questions about him drew out comments about Dennis Smith and Steve Atwater.

Many of us are very interested in our past players. They are the legacy to our football team, and they gave us years of entertainment and excitement . . . those of us who were fortunate enough to see them.

That’s what you need to keep in mind: Some things that are less interesting to us are more interesting to others. It’s give and take. Let’s remember that, too, for the next MHR program. If Guru is talking about something that doesn’t particularly interest us, it is indeed interesting to others, which is why he talks about them. When one of us complains about his topic, we are disrupting it for everyone else. Let’s just hang tight, and he will get to something for us, too.

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Nov 17, 2008 8:30 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Eddie Royal on returning kickoffs and punts....

he is going to take it to the house soon enough. Shanny is right on with his instincts.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 6

by weazel on Nov 17, 2008 7:03 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

quick note

Mortenson on ESPN countdown yesterday said he expects the colts to release Bob Sanders next season…..

My answer to that Please denver sign him but also draft a saftety too

The quest is the Highway to the Danger Zone-Kenny loggins

by TommyTSlice on Nov 17, 2008 8:14 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Why would the Colts release Sanders? That makes no sense.

The future looks so bright that we're going to need blue and orange sunglasses!

by Arctic Bronco on Nov 17, 2008 8:18 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Something about a cap issue

or maybe i heard it wrong

The quest is the Highway to the Danger Zone-Kenny loggins

by TommyTSlice on Nov 17, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

More hitting in practices needs more attention.

Cause it is making a huge difference – toughening up the team, reducing turnovers, improving tackling.

Shanny’s usual soft practices was one of the only things I have ever disagreed with him on regarding his coaching philosophies.

by The Gun Young on Nov 17, 2008 8:50 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

amen

amen amen amen amen

As we can see, the soft practices did not help keep the injuries down. In fact, it could be argued that going soft in practice has increased game time injuries. But the main point here is, you get the attitude going in practice and carry it over to game time. And it’s working.

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Rivers light in the loafers?

by EastCoastBronco on Nov 18, 2008 9:28 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No to Sanders....

Hes ALWAYS injured.
Great player, but that is the complaint with Boss Bailey, and the same thing will happen with Sanders.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Nov 17, 2008 9:23 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Lowry and Manuel.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Nov 17, 2008 10:36 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Oh, is that what they played?

I’m not sure they knew, themselves . . .

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Nov 17, 2008 11:16 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

manuel played a decent game...

Lowry should be released immediatly following our super bowl win this winter.

Check out the website listed below...

Rivers light in the loafers?

by EastCoastBronco on Nov 18, 2008 9:29 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Lowry was the last line of defense

on the two Turner touchdowns and he failed in both instances. Getting pushed three yards into the end zone of the first and taking a horrible angle on the 28 yarder in the fourth quarter.

I would advocate getting rid of him ASAP!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 18, 2008 11:41 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

High Praise for Royal and Larsen...

That’s pritty, pritty cool. I’m sure it means a lot to those guys. Also an interesting comment about Nico moving to Will. He’s absolutely buried there. At this point he and Boss are huge disappointments. Thank god for Woodyard and Larsen.

I know some people have been high on these two since the beginning, but think of all the analysis on here from the Draft through OTAs. Who would have thought that because DJ suffered a serious mid-season injury and K2 and Boss are complete busts, we are all very excited about our future at LB?

by ButteBronco on Nov 18, 2008 9:00 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I was one

of the guys very high on K2. I was wrong. What we ended up with is an excellent ST man who can play all three LB positions in a backup roll.

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08

by firstfan on Nov 18, 2008 6:37 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was another

and I, too, was wrong. Thank heavens I was also wrong about Woodyard and Larsen, who i thought were being overhyped.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Nov 18, 2008 8:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I was just talking to my dad

and he asked the following interesting question:

“What would Niko have looked like if he had gotten the starting MLB job at the beginning of the season?”

It really got me thinking. How would you feel if you had been the most consistent and solid of the candidates, hadn’t missed any tackles and had the blessing of the star weakside LB, only to lose your job to a guy who routinely missed tackles, couldn’t buckle his chinstrap, and didn’t know his gap from a hole in the ground? The reason you are given is that “He made more plays than you.” You can’t help but dwell on the fact that he “missed more plays than you,” as well.

Niko’s confidence has been shot to hell.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 18, 2008 9:35 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I hadn't thought of that

If so, it’s a shame, because I like Niko and wanted to see him succeed. About the chinstrap,
I was wondering if I was the only one who found it irritating. It comes across as a pose. Look at me. I hit so hard my helmet keeps coming off. Surely he could keep it on if he really wanted to. Larsen hits like a truck and his helmet stays on. It’s almost as annoying as (Winborn?) celebrating after he’s tackled the runner twenty yards past the line of scrimmage.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Nov 19, 2008 3:39 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

K2

i live in the NW, and have watched a few seachickens games. when i heard we picked up niko, i was joyous. i couldnt believe webster started over him. we saw what Turner did in atl when he was let out from under the rock of tomlinson, i do believe niko had that potential coming out from behind polomolu.

by denver_diaspora on Nov 18, 2008 10:16 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

k2 is a backup

behind a rookie. on the weakside. can we stop making excuses for him now? he had his chance, webster beat him out. now it’s larsen’s turn. next year, we’ll get a real mlb if larsen doesn’t work out. let it go. winborn is an idiot, and he, too, will be gone. thankfully. it’s looking like ww, d.j., larsen, and boss(if healthy, hopefully with playing-time bonuses) next season, plus additions. and no 3-4(please!). we will be much better, then

hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!

by davecheffy on Nov 19, 2008 11:01 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

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