Denver in the Driver's Seat (gunning for a high seed?)
Just how important was the win by Denver on Sunday in Atlanta? Perhaps more important than one might realize on first glance.
First, while Denver may appear to be an "on again / off again" team, they have managed to find themselves ranked fourth in the AFC. Only TENN, PITT, and the NYJ's rank ahead of Denver in the conference.
Still not impressed? How about this number: While TENN is clearly out in front in the AFC, PITT and NYJ are only one game ahead of Denver. That's right. Denver, somehow, is only a game out of second place in the AFC. That's a first round bye in the playoffs baby.
Now let's not get ahead of ourselves. Denver is a banged up team, and not terribly consistent. On the other hand, there's a lot of positives, and I want to share them with you.
Read on...
First, let's be honest. Denver doesn't have a Superbowl caliber team yet. Could Denver fire up the rest of the season and get it done? It's possible, but not likely. However, the road to the playoffs and glory is not as impossible as it once looked. A big part of the reason is that while Denver doesn't look so hot, neither does the rest of the League.
Denver ranks fourth in the AFC. If Denver was in the NFC, they would have a better record than all but 3 teams. The previously dominating teams like NE and INDY have been grounded this year, and the League (and the conference) are up for grabs.
Before the season started, most of us would have penciled in ATL as an easy win. ATL has played with a lot of heart, and until meeting Denver, was undefeated at home. But despite the total attrition of the RB position, Denver cobbled together a former Bronco (who was selling cellphones in the Aurora Mall) and a rookie named Larsen (who played offense, defense, and STs, the first time a rookie has started on three units for a team since the AFL merger). More importantly, they scrapped the spread offense and went back to running the ball and executing short, West Coast style passes.
If Denver continues to run the ball and to allow Cutler to make less throws (which makes the receivers' job easier), Denver can finish out this season pretty strong. Denver will also get some players back (Champ Bailey) and should improve as the season goes on.
Denver has a two game lead over SD. Denver plays:
- OAK at home (should be a win) while SD plays IND at home (tricky).
- at the NYJ's (tricky) while SD plays ATL at home (tricky)
- KC at home (should be a win) while SD plays OAK at home (should be a win)
- DEN at CAR (doesn't look good), SD plays at KC (and no matter how bad KC is, they play well at home, especially late in the year).
- Denver has Buf at home (tricky, but at least it's a home game) while SD goes to TB (tricky).
- DEN at SD (The crown jewel game).
At worst, I see Denver and SD going through the next four games with the same record, leaving Denver with a 2 game lead when the final game of the season os played. At best, Denver could very well widen the lead when one considers the remaining schedule.
Based on the above points then, I think it is reasonable to say that Denver is not only in the driver's seat for a playoff spot, but all of a sudden finds themselves playing for a high seed. Let's look at the remaining schedule for the two teams we can likely catch (TENN isn't one of them).
NYJ's
- At TENN (OUCH!)
- Home against Denver (Denver controls it's own destiny)
- AT SF (should win)
- Home against BUF (tricky)
- AT SEA (should win)
- MIA at home (Could be tricky)
PITT
- Home against CIN (should win)
- At NE (tricky)
- Home against DAL (tricky)
- At BAL (could be tricky)
- At TENN (OUCH!)
- Home against CLE (should win).
Given Pittsburgh's difficult schedule down the stretch, Denver may very easily pass them for the third seed. The most important game left on the schedule may not be against SD after all! The most important game may very well be against the NYJs, which has implications for propelling Denver into the second seed in the AFC.
Chew on that one for awhile!
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Like I said in an earlier thread...hit me up again if we go into Carolina with a 5 game winning streak. ;-)
Good stuff HT…still, all I want for Christmas is a division title!
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by Tim Lynch on Nov 18, 2008 9:24 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
LA LA LAND here!
All I want for Christmas is a super bowl win, but I’m afraid that Shanny may not be able to send me one this year! gotta keep wishing though.
by metalman5050 on Nov 18, 2008 5:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What are we made of
Great post HT. What all this really boils down to is this: What are the Broncos made of this year? They control their own destiny at this point. Are we the up-and-down team we’ve been so far this season? Are we a young team starting to hit our stride?
All we can do is take it one game at a time and put our best football on the field.
That being said, I for one am VERY encouraged with where we are at and how we are playing. You always want your team peaking late instead of early (the past few years we’ve kind of been backwards there).
We all know this offense is lights-out. If we can keep from turning the ball over (knock-on-wood), they will put at LEAST 21 on the board on any given Sunday.
I’m most encouraged by our defense…they are finally playing somewhat solid football. I’d love to see them be a powerhouse, but that isn’t going to happen this year. And with our offense, all we need is a solid defense. I love the improvements they are making in run defense. I also love how the secondary is playing given the absence of Champ.
Honestly though…we can handle the Titans … maybe a little ahead of myself, but they are a beatable team and I certainly don’t think their defense can slow us down. I’m not scared of their offense in the least.
by sadaraine on Nov 18, 2008 9:26 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think Webster just lost his starting job.
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by sirsam on Nov 18, 2008 10:10 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
We can only hope!
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by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 18, 2008 10:46 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good post HT
I was just commenting about the upcoming schedule on a similar fan post.
I think Denver is starting to solidify. I am just as excited about this the young players stepping up as everyone else is, but I am most excited by the scheming as of late. I made a fan post several weeks ago about the offense getting away from the spread-pass offense and returning to the glory days of a west coast style we played with Plummer (yes, they were glory days. AFC championship game and an offense that was unstoppable when Plummer decided to show up) that relied heavily on a spread run game (different from the spread pass) and play action bootlegs. They started to do this in Atl and the falcon defense struggled.
And THANK GOD we have stopped the 3-4 failure of an experiment. THANK GOD we stopped the 3 man rush catastrophe.
I think one of the biggest contributions all the reserves playing has had is this; In order to cope with all thr young, inexperienced players that were starting for the Atl game due to injuries, Denver dialed down all the complexities and all the cutesy, tricky scheming. They started practicing full speed in pads. Simple football. Run the ball more, use a solid 4-3 defense. TACKLE. And what do you know? We looked great! The team knows who they are again!
Just like all of us were screaming for after the NE meltdown.
It’s a great year to be a Denver fan.
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by EastCoastBronco on Nov 18, 2008 10:35 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
The Buffalo game may not be so tricky (or it could be)
Since starting 4-0, the Bills have dropped their last 4 games and have lost 5 of their last 6. It could be that they are suffering through the same growing pains that the Broncos did during October but it could be a sign of something deeper (like their not who we thought they were). If they continue this trend, it could make the game easier for us.
Or, they could rebound like we have and make it a tougher game than it appears that it currently is but that looks hard for them given that 3 of their games between now and then are in the AFC East (the others are against the chefs and niners).
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by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 18, 2008 11:05 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Screw the Bills...they cost me $85 this week. I needed them to win to secure first place in my money league for the week....
Now I am in a 5 way tie for first and the tie breaker is total points. I had 47…the actual total was 56. With 5 other people, I doubt I was the closest or even the second closest. $85 payout to first place, $30 for second…I got screwed by the Bills I know it. (I should be getting an email today sometime from the league commish to confirm this…screw the Bills!) lol
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by Tim Lynch on Nov 18, 2008 12:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds great, but...
you can’t just look at the teams ahead of the Broncos and not at the other 6-4 teams. It’s a quite reasonable possibility that either the Pats or Dolphins win the AFC East, and both have a head-to-head tie-breaker against the Broncos. You can never, ever assume that the Jets will hold onto a division lead. Baltimore could beat out the Steelers, and they have a better AFC record than do the Broncos. Yes, Denver is in a very good position, but it’s not quite that simple.
I’d be happy with a division title, which means a home playoff game…and anything can happen with that, right?
by Douglas A. Lee on Nov 18, 2008 11:48 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I did look at the other 6-4 teams.
We are ahead of them by tie-break at this point. If we win the division, our tie break for seeding is only against division leaders. By winning our division, we can only be fourth seed at worst. Therefore, the only point at which head to head makes a difference (as of this week) is against the other three division leaders, none of whom have 6-4 records.
(I understand your point that certain teams may jump up to win their divisions, but I’m dealing with what we know, not what might happen. If I took it to extremes, I could just as easily posit that Denver loses every game [along with TENN] from here on out, and some team like oakland wins from here on out.)
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 18, 2008 1:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
if we beat the jets ----everything Below is ConditionaL to if we beat the jets-------
then they wont be first in their division but teid with NE/MIA
since Miami and NE plays one has to win so which ever that team is it is will be 7-4 and if we beat the jets they will be 7-4 and with the probable loss the Tenn then 7-5 where they would be tied in their division at best
at this point we would be 8-4
at this point the team that wins out the division will Most likely go 3-1 or 4-0
::::: so whoever wins will most likely be 11-5 or 10-6
Our schedule after jets
3. KC at home (should be a win) then would be 9-4
4. DEN at CAR (doesn’t look good)
5. Denver has Buf at home (tricky, but at least it’s a home game)
6. DEN at SD (The crown jewel game).
looking at the AFC easts schedule at this point i would guess the Jets would win out with 11-5
we would be 9-4 after KC possibly 10-4 winning BUF counting a lose to CAR 10-5 then SD if we win 11-5 and we would then win the tiebreak
:::::: so the SD game could have real importance for deciding a first round bye
also PIT could come in right at 11-5 which might cause the tiebreaker to go all the way to strength of victory which is to hard to tell in this hypothetical situation
by RiG on Nov 18, 2008 6:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff Rig!
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 19, 2008 12:45 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
the colts are playing good football right now, Baltimore was ona five game winning streak for a reason, and NE is playing very well, and for my money will win that division.
I think that NE is the most bothersome of the above group, since they beat us (badly), but the Jets are just as key.
Bottom line is that we need to keep winning games.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 18, 2008 1:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I am getting my hopes up
For the first time in a while and thats not good I dont want to be disappointed!!!! I am going to wait until after the NYJ game to officially anoint the Denver Broncos as having a better than average record. I am still guessing that the Broncos are going to finish 9-7 or 10-6 I really want 10-6 and thats what I wanted at the beginning or the season so I woulda been satisfied with that.
However if the Broncos beat the Jets and the Raiders these next couple of weeks they will be 8-4. Thats a really good record and we should be looking for the Broncos to finish the season from that point AT LEAST 3-1 which would leave them at 11-5. A very very respectable record. And if they win out which is improbable but then they are 12-4 with ALL the momentum! I mean can you imagine? No I cant. So lets not get too excited and lets just keep cheering our Broncos on to a AFC West Championship and at least one playoff win.
2 more weeks til we get too excited…
GO BRONCOS!!!!
by AZBroncosFan on Nov 18, 2008 11:48 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Great Post HT. Thanks
There is one other thing that no one has mentioned. When we fell behind 20-17 I did not immediatly get down. I just seemed to have a quiet confidence in the ability of our offense to move the ball and score. This was very reminiscent of a by-gone era with another quarterback. I am in no way comparing the two in any way other than my confidence in the team to win. We have an excellent chance to win the division and host a playoff game. GO BRONCOS!
It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
by firstfan on Nov 18, 2008 12:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
agreed
Good point. I felt that as well. Plummer had some good come-from-behind games as well, but it was different.
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by EastCoastBronco on Nov 18, 2008 12:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure he wasn't talking about Plummer... :(
I think he was reminiscing on all of Brian Griese’s old comebacks! How many did he have? 3? But firstfan’s right- the feel was different.
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by papigrande on Nov 18, 2008 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure ECB
knew that and was adding Plummer to the discussion as a counterpoint, or contrast to Jay and Elway, so as to indicate that not all comebacks are created equal.
:)
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 18, 2008 2:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Elway?
Oh, we’re talking about Elway! Ohhh, no wonder this whole thing didn’t make sense… I couldn’t decide if he was referring to Griese or Steve DeBerg. Maybe even Mickey Slaughter. Now it all makes sense to me! Thanks, Styg!!
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by papigrande on Nov 18, 2008 10:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what, I missed the boat.
And now I look like an idiot. I thought ECB was being sarcastic about the “unnamed quarterback” in firstfan’s post being Plummer instead of Elway, so I added some sarcasm to that. And then I thought you took my sarcasm seriously, so I got even more sarcastic. Dangit, this is like the 50th time this has happened. My bad for potentially sounding like a dick.
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by papigrande on Nov 18, 2008 10:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't need to worry about that Papi
not around here at any rate!
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 19, 2008 12:18 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you firstfan
I wasn’t nervous at all either. I just knew that they were going to pull it out one way or the other.
Let’s just hope they can continue this stellar play for the rest of the season.
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by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 18, 2008 12:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Something changed in the Cleveland game. That was the first game that I wasn’t worried about being behind.
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 18, 2008 1:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Dave the Falconer said in a post game report on the Broncos/Falcons game that the Falcons were flat, especially on offense (just 3.3 per on the ground). I disagreed, and said the Bronco D was getting better. There was nothing flat about the Falcons’ effort.
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by bradley on Nov 18, 2008 1:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got a couple of questions, HT
Why has the defense improved so much? Whose play on the field jumps out at you? How about the d-line? I haven’t heard them mentioned. Are they doing a better job of holding their positions and keeping blockers off the linebackers? How are Thomas and D-Rob doing? Is Moss beginning to make plays? Where in hell did Josh Bell come from? Did he start over Paymah? Over Williams? Why? Is Spencer Larsen, like John Lynch, another instance of a player whose instincts, reading quickly and accurately, more than compensate for a lack of blazing speed? Is Koutouvides now the 3rd string Mike? Is Woodyard as good as he seems to be? Okay, more than a couple of questions. I just want to pick your defensive brains. I’m really excited at how well all our young guys are playing. We seem to have struck gold in practically every round this year.
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by spock on Nov 18, 2008 12:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Great stuff as always Spock
1) Why has the D improved so much?
Two reasons (that I can think of). First, young players that have a shot at “being something” are playing hard to prove they deserve a shot. Second, I think the play calling has improved on the defense the last two games. We are taking more “risks”, instead of playing so cautiously that we just give up yards left and right.
2) Whose play jumps out?
Larsen is the biggest standout. Woodyard is a close second.
3) How about the DL (etc)?
I didn’t see the ATL game, but in the CLE game I thought the DL looked better, but not great. The DE’s seem to be the heart of the DL right now. The DTs don’t seem to be holding their ground well, but they seem to be plugging the gaps a little better. They still have a ways to go.
4) Moss.
He’s basicly a second year rookie having been injured last year), so I’ll forgive his mistakes. He’s making plenty of mistakes, but he shows enough potential that I would keep him. I expect him to be very, very good by next year. Overall, I like what I see.
5) Josh Bell (etc)
Your guess is as good as mine. I confess that I’m entirely stumped.
6) Larsen / Lynch comparison…
I wouldn’t put it that way. Lynch was a student of the game (great coaching potential) who knows how to read an offense in limited time and made up for lack of speed with those “smarts”. In the case of Larsen, he’s not so much in a position (as MLB) where speed is as critical as for a safety. Does he need to learn to read an offense? Sure. But in his role as first time starter I imagine he had simple man and zone assignments, and perhaps stepped up to call some adjustments when something was clear. It’s a terrrific start, and I’d like for him to keep the spot.
7) K2 third string?
Hard to tell what the last game will do, and it’s hard to get in Shanahan’s mind. I advocate Larsen for starting MLB, and really have no opinion on who gets the 2nd and 3rd team slots.
8) Woodyard…
Like Larsen, showed a lot of promise (from what I read from the comments during the game). I think he loses the ROLB back to DJ, but has proven himself enoughas a “go getter” to keep a spot on the team while he improves.
Hope that helps.
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 18, 2008 1:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Good questions and awesome answers.
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by sirsam on Nov 18, 2008 2:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Bell
did indeed earn the start over Paymah and JMFW, and it was based on how he performed in practice. The coaches love his confidence and how well he moves. they say he is very fluid through the hips and has picked up VERY quickly on his responsibilities. I don’t doubt that in the coming weeks he will show the MHR powers that be a thing or two, and prompt his very own tale from the sunnyside.
There is something in the air with this kid…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 18, 2008 2:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Moss
Anyone else notice Moss starting the game? He is getting more and more playing time. I think I will resend the bust label and hold off on using it until atleast next season.
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by EastCoastBronco on Nov 18, 2008 12:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
In fairness to Moss...
He’s a second year player, but this is his first year playing (injury). I’m looking at this year as a growing year, and forgiving mental errors on the field.
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 18, 2008 1:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I figure his increased playing time
must be due to what he’s doing in practice, something Shanahan always stresses. So he must be making steady progress. Since this is in effect his rookie year, we might see a jump in productivity next year.
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by spock on Nov 18, 2008 1:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Back to Spocks questions
do you think that the past two rookie QB’s have had anything to do with our recent success on defense?
by danver on Nov 18, 2008 2:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent question!
No. And here’s why.
Against ATL we faced the number two rushing team in the NFL, and we held them to eighty something yards. Despite the “rookie” title that Quinn holds, he played a solid game. Against both teams, we were missing an awful lot of starters. So I still give Denver full credit.
Is the current defense very good? I don’t think so. (sorry). On the other hand, with new players doing the basics better (taking good angles, breaking down to tackle, not getting juked, playing their own space) than the vets, and with better playcalling, I think the defense is much better off than I previously would have thought.
(I recently read there is more contact in practice, and this may be a factor as well).
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 18, 2008 3:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
(eighty something yards RUSHING)
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 18, 2008 3:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Our rushing defense is what has my head turning....
any success on defense must start with stopping the run…all other things come after that. Plus we face some tough running teams in the next two weeks. Bring it on!
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by Tim Lynch on Nov 18, 2008 3:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Atlanta...
…had the number one run offense in the league, going into last week’s game. Give the Broncos run D an A plus. 3.3 yards per carry.
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by bradley on Nov 18, 2008 5:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
My error.
I thought they were rated 2nd.
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 18, 2008 5:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We've got another "rookie" QB coming up this week
in 2nd year pro Jamarcus Russell. And then we’ve got second year Tyler Thigpen two weeks later, who was claimed off waivers from the Iceland football league not too long ago. I guess 32 year vet Brett Favre makes up for this youth movement we’ve been facing. After all, he’s older than the combined ages of all the other quarterbacks we’ve seen in the last two weeks and will see in the next three.
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by papigrande on Nov 18, 2008 10:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Jamakeus Fail even healthy?
I thought he had tendinitis in his knee.
Seems like we might be seeing Marcus Tuiasosopapilla on Sunday (I believe Walter Andrews was injured a couple of weeks ago).
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by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 19, 2008 8:49 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I read about the contact in practice as well
and I agree, this can only be helping us. There is nothing worse than being in the right place at the right time and not executing a tackle.
by danver on Nov 18, 2008 4:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Great post HT,
You make a solid argument. The only thing I will disagree with is the most important game is not the NYJ, it’s next weeks. If the Raiders beat us at home that could really hurt confidence, if not in the players than in mine…
Great job as always!!
by Steve O' on Nov 18, 2008 5:02 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The players and coaches...
…should play every game as if it is the most important game, and in that sense, the next game is the most important (OAK). On the other hand, we control our own destiny for a seeding range of 2 to 4 with the Jets game, so as a fan that’s the game I have penciled in.
Of course, each game has something special about it. I always look forward to beating the raiders, we have a vengence game coming up against KC, I think the SD will be the second most important game (if it even matters by that time in the season), Carolina will be a test against a solid team, and BUF could present some interesting issues (despite their recent poor play).
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 18, 2008 6:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet Post HT!
Loved the break down and the distict possibilities! LA LA LAND is closer than I thought. Perhaps the trend toward improvement will continue and we will “win out!”
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by metalman5050 on Nov 18, 2008 5:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Steve O' has a great point
If we……….have troubles against the faiders it could really hurt us mentally. However, I can’t think of a better way to catipult us into the final 5 game stretch than a 64 – 0 whooping in front of the home crowd!
by danver on Nov 18, 2008 5:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Of course,
if we can’t beat Oakland in Denver, do we really deserve a post season? We had better take the game seriously (and I’m working on the write-up for this week’s Chalk Talk on why it isn’t as easy as it looks), but we should still count on a win.
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 18, 2008 6:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh, that doesn't sound good
now I can’t wait to read Chalk talk…
by Steve O' on Nov 18, 2008 7:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a little preview...
Oak is a bad, bad, bad, team. We should win.
But there are some minor issues that could come up. Just a few: 1) I’ll cover their running game, which has still been pretty good despite a few injuries of their own, 2) They know us better than we know them (coaching shuffle), 3) It would be very easy for the team to overlook Oak (remembering that this rivalry is more Shanahan’s and the fans’ than the players’).
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by Steve Nichols on Nov 19, 2008 12:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the best thing...
Is that our destiny is in our own hands. We’ll only have ourselves to blame. If we like our team (and we’re all beginning too be more confident) then that’s a great place to be!!!
Darren Bennett... check
Ben Graham... check
Sav Rocca... check
Now if only we can find an Australian who can run and tackle in the NFL and show these Yanks what we're made of.
by orange&blue_aussie on Nov 18, 2008 6:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
We match up well against Carolina....don't be so quick to chalk that game up as a loss just yet! :)
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by Tim Lynch on Nov 19, 2008 8:40 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Panthers at Atlanta
I’m really curious to see how that game comes out. It would be great to see Atlanta stick it to the Panthers.
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Replied Buddha: The best question that can be asked is the question you have just asked me; and the best answer that can be given is the answer I am giving you.
by bradley on Nov 19, 2008 11:59 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know.
They’re a pretty physical team. I have a lot of respect for ’em.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Nov 19, 2008 1:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jake the Snake...err, I mean Jake the Panther reminds me a lot of Jake the Snake. :)
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
by Tim Lynch on Nov 19, 2008 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Great post Coach....
Well done HT and recommended.
Maybe I have been hanging out with Mike Clark too much, but I cant see any reason we cant go 6-0.
The Raiders at home W. No way will this team lose, and Shanny wont let them. This could be a statement game before we play the Jets.
The Jets away. W. Yeah, they are playing well and evry consistent, but this team scare anyone. Is this a team we honsetly dont think our team can win based on the last game and a half. We can win this. And….THIS GAME IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SAN DIEGO GAME.
The Cheifs at Home W. paybacks a bitch and the Broncos will come out steamed.
The Panthers away . I will take W as this team is not playing great. There lasst 2 weeks were VERY ordinary. Denver stops the run, we will win this.
Buffalo at Home. W. They are playing AWFUL. Edwards is gun shy, and dont be surprised to see JP Losman playing.
San Diego away. If we have tied up division title we might lose, but if we are still tied up with the Jets it could be important. Another win.
The BIGGEST thing I am seeing from our opponents is that they are all trending downwards in performance, except for the Jets. THEY ARE CONSISTENT, but they are not a scary team like the Giants.
I dont know man, we could be 12-4.
We are getting warm and starting to heat up at the right time of the season.
Its just a feeling!
THIS POST IN HONOR OF MIKE CLARK!!!!
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by boydy2669 on Nov 19, 2008 3:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think 5-1 is our best shot, and that's not too shabby.
At worst, well, we won’t talk about worst.
Before the season I had us penned in at 10-6, and I’ll be glad if we hit that mark. Getting to the playoffs would be a great experience for the young guys too.
In my mind, a 10-6 record or a playoff appearance are very good marks. But you make good points on why we can win each game down the stretch, and I find it hard to disagree.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Nov 19, 2008 4:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
denver d improvement, despite injuries
to our best 2 lb’s , best corner, and starting safety, is very simple in my mind. we stopped handing first downs to the opposing offense with the dreaded 3-man rush/soft zone debacle. this may return, i’m afraid, when/if we get a double-digit lead again, and shanny alluded to this recently when discussing why we aren’t using the 3-4 anymore(lb injuies). he sounded like he was still for it, so stay tuned. the other reason for improvement here, against the run, is also simple. the young lb’s don’t overpursue as much, and they can hit and tackle. again, we only have to be average here, and we are getting there, with help on the way. the nfl’s perversion with speed at every position, especially this team, has again been vastly overrated.
also of note is the return of some semblance of a running game, again despite numerous injuries. this i attribute to the line gelling together at this time of the season. there were some holes out there the last few games, first time in a long time. this bodes well for whoever is going to be toting the rock the rest of the way. expect to see slow improvement here on in regarding the running game(except, of course, for short-yardage, where we will give it to the smallest back, or run a trick play unsuccessfully).
also, has anyone mentioned our much-improved st’s, now? royal is the man the rest of the way(cross your fingers), and i hope he can handle the double-duty and be healthy for the playoffs. but it doesn’t appear we have much of a choice at this point. if he goes down,. though, we are done at returner and the #2 wr position, as noone has stepped up in that department(d-jax, where are you?) coverage units have been excellent, and just in time, because champ can’t save any td’s on the sidelines. this team is jelling, with a favorable schedule down the stretch, and if we can keep the turnovers down, we should take the division. i don’t expect s.d. to go quietly, though, so i will get a little more excited if we win the jets game, and obviously, take care of business at home the rest of the way. very doable
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by davecheffy on Nov 19, 2008 9:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

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