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MHR Chalk Talk -- Week 12 - Oakland at Denver

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As I write this report, I'm battling some kind of illness that MHR's own Dr. BroncoBear needs to look into.  I seem to be suffering from something that is a cross between ebola, anthrax, and the bubonic plague.  Fever, vomiting, stomach cramping, swollen lymph glands, headache, and the worst sore throat ever.  For that reason, this is the hardest final draft I've written for MHR.  One thing keeps me from crawling into bed and resigning myself to an engagement with my Lord and Maker however...

That's right Baby....

It's time for the epic good versus evil match-up that we've all been waiting for.  Yep.  Twice a year the Heavens and the bowels of Hell open up to cast forth the armies of rightousness (the Denver Broncos) and the demons of darkness (the Oakland Raiders).  To some of the more unbalanced fans in our midst, these two games hold more significance than even the Superbowl itself.  But to all of us, something in the fabric of time, space, dimension, and destiny has gone awry if Denver doesn't manage to beat the grotesque, morbid henchmen of the dark overlord himself, Darth Al Davis.

And so dear readers, come with me into MHR's Chalk Talk this week as we break down the match-up between the angels and the demons, and see why good should triumph over evil, or (Heaven Forbid!) why evil has an apple's chance in Eden.

Read on...

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We've come a long way since the first game of the season, where we beat the Raiders by a score of 41 to 14.  We've taken a decent lead in the AFC West, while the Raiders have the potential to finish worse that their 4-12 record of last year the last few years.

How bad have things gotten for the Raider Nation?  Look for yourself!  Saint is a class act, and you have to feel compassion for a guy whose football world is in total collapse.  One to four days go by in between fanposts (none with recommendations), and the news just gets worse and worse (the admission that Javon Walker was a bust, and the Broncos were right / too much money spent on MeAngelo Hall /  yes, Al Davis really is the cause of the franchise deathof the Raiders).

In the meantime, while not in the La La Land of MHR stalwarts Zappa and Mike Clark heading to 13-3, the Broncos are very likely heading to the playoffs this year, and not as some wildcard team.

Yep.  Things look really nice from over here in MileHighReport.com Land.  And while I pick Denver to win this game in a big way, no good coach would look at the match-up and call this a gimee.  No really.  There are some match-up issues to look at.  (C'mon folks.  I'm trying to keep a straight face).

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 There are a lot of match-ups to consider in this game.  Some are scheme related, and some are player related.  The most important ones in my estimation are below.

The Oakland Run Game vs. the Denver Run Defense

Yes, Denver run defense is improving.  Despite missing 100% of the LB starters, Denver fought of Atlanta's elite run attack.  Is the run defense coming together, or did we just have a couple of good games?  How much should we be concerned with the Oakland attack?

Jeff Legwold at the Rocky Mountain News gives this terrific insight:

Despite all the Raiders' problems, and they are many, they still are the 10th-ranked rushing team in the NFL. And that's despite their No. 1 pick in the 2008 draft, Darren McFadden, having missed three games because of injury and Justin Fargas, their leading rusher, having missed two.

McFadden has the Raiders' only 100-yard rushing game of the season, 164 against the Chiefs in September. But with Fargas, McFadden and Michael Bush, Oakland can pound away at a defense if motivated to do so.

Given the Raiders' troubles at quarterback and in their passing game - it's last in the league - if they are going to move the ball Sunday, they will have to lean on those backs.

The Broncos are coming off a quality outing against the run-heavy Falcons, limiting Michael Turner to 81 yards and Atlanta to only 3.3 yards per carry overall. They did it with quality play up front, which enabled their linebackers to flow to the ball.

Legwold makes an excellent argument that the Oakland running attack is nothing to laugh at.  Whle they may rank 10th, they rank that low with the consideration that they have had their share of injuries.  I'll go a step further.

Denver's one gap defense is a work in progress, but it is not the kind of defense you want against against the zone block system that Oakland runs.  That's more cause for concern in an otherwise "easy" looking game.

The good news?  Atlanta only recently parted ways with the zone block running system, and much of their offensive line and running style still retains major elements of the zone block, and the Denver Defense did just fine.  Consider also that the ATL run attack is just plain better that Oak's.

My point is that we look good stopping the run, but not "comfortably" good.  Score this match-up for Denver, but with the caveat that there could be some disturbing undertones.

The Oakland Pass Game versus the Denver Pass Defense

Oakland has the worst pass game in the League.  Champ Bailey is questionable for this game.  My (lowly, humble) advice to Denver?  Sit Champ.  Let him rest and repair.  No need to risk Superman against the Smurfs.  As ancient and awful as the vertical pass system is, and as poor as Oakland runs it, we'll be just fine with Bly and company.

Denver's Air Force versus the Oakland Pass Defense

If you are like me, and you don't like the mainstream sports media, you're in good company.  But let's give credit where credit is due.  The Rocky Mountain News does a great job, and they're good friends of MHR.  Writer Lee Rasizer drops by to chat with Guru here at MHR, and writer Jeff Legwold puts up solid pieces at RMN as well.

Again, from Jeff Legwold:

The previous time these teams met - to open the regular season - the Broncos sent Royal after Raiders cornerback DeAngelo Hall, in Jay Cutler's words, "time after time."

Royal came away with 146 yards on nine catches in his first regular-season NFL game.

The Raiders since have jettisoned Hall, and with Nnamdi Asomugha likely to get Brandon Marshall much of the time, that would leave Royal working against Routt.

Routt has plenty of speed - he was timed in the low 4.3 seconds in his 40-yard dash at the 2005 scouting combine - and is a little bigger than Royal. But Royal has shown the ability to consistently make himself some space against man-to-man coverage.

Again, I'll go a step further.  As of this writing, Nnamdi Asomugha is listed as questionable for this game.  If you like Jeff's take on the match-up, imagine how much sweeter it is without Asomugha in the line-up.

Denver's Ground Forces against the Oakland Run Defense

Ten little nine little eight little running backs, seven little six little five little running backs...

Mow down the Denver running backs.  Go ahead.  Stick them all on injured reserve.  Despite Mike Shanahan's constant admonition that you just can't plug anyone into the RB spot with the high powered Denver zone block, it's getting harder to believe.  Need proof?  Denver lost starting RBs before the season began (injury, off field behavior, etc), and lost the entire string behind them as the season wore on.

No problem.  Denver brings in a cell phone saleseman, a player from another position, and some guy nobody has heard of before, and Denver rips the heart out of Atlanta.

Now that Denver seems (we hope) to have reverted back to running and west coast play (over the pass heavy version of the spread offense they've been using), I'm confident that few teams can stop the Broncos in the run.

Match-ups by Ranking

Denver on Offense -

Denver  run Off (18th) versus Oakland run Def (30th)

Denver pass Off (3rd) versus Oakland pass Def (12th)

Denver Off yards (3rd) versus Oakland yards defensed (25th)

Denver Off Pts (8th) versus Oakland Pts allowed (28th)

Denver on Defense -

Denver run Def (26th) versus Oakland run Off (10th)

Denver pass Def (29th) versus Oakland pass Off (32nd)

Denver yards defensed (29th) versus Oakland Off yards (30th)

Denver Pts allowed (27th) versus Oakland Off Pts (32nd)

The Bottom Line 

Denver is getting their act together in playcalling, and the young guys are stepping up where veteran free agents have disappointed.  The team is on the right track, but still young and still (despite a great outing of rookies against Atlanta) a team that will make mistakes.

Oakland?  Frankly, this looks like a team playing without heart.  For this rivalry to heat up again, the NFL may have to step in and force an ownership move.  Al Davis is a sick man, and both his wife and daughter should inspire little confidence given previous issues discussed at MHR in the past.

The players won't treat this game as a rivalry (that's something that fans do, and they project it on the team).  Only one person on the field has strong personal feelings about this game.  Mike Shanahan will never forget how Al Davis treated him, and will continue to beat the Raiders, and yes, probably run up the score.

Denver by a Mile High.          

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Great preview of the matchup!

I also think Denver will run up the score. A LOT!!!!

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Nov 20, 2008 10:13 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Classic!
Ten little nine little eight little running backs, seven little six little five little running backs…

Get well soon man. Great post!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Nov 20, 2008 10:14 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Classic comment indeed....

I couldn’t help but laugh when I read that.

Good job as always and you did it feeling really under the weather. A Mile High Salute for you.

My favorite quote from Shanahan (as in my sig): “It doesn’t dissipate”

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 6

by weazel on Nov 20, 2008 12:50 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meant to put "Good job HT" in there.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 6

by weazel on Nov 20, 2008 12:51 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with Shanahan

You can’t just plug anyone into Denver’s zone blocking scheme and have success. From Terrell Davis to Peyton Hillis and P.J. Pope, all of these guys have talent. Coach Shanahan may have problems drafting wide recievers (until 2006 anyway) but he’s got an eye for running backs.

Epimenides to Buddha: What is the best question that can be asked, and what is the best answer that can be given?
Replied Buddha: The best question that can be asked is the question you have just asked me; and the best answer that can be given is the answer I am giving you.

by bradley on Nov 20, 2008 10:57 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my nominee for our next one-cut back

Rashad Jennings, and I’d (probably) wait till the middle rounds before pulling the trigger.

by Colinski on Nov 20, 2008 12:55 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent recommendation, 'Ski

And of course, rec’d for the great job, HT. It’s a pleasure to learn from the master planner

He doesn’t know anything but 100 percent
- Shanahan on Larsen

by broncobear on Nov 20, 2008 10:48 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a weak crop, but.....

We’ve always done well with RBs who come in a little later, like, say, in the 4th, if you get my drift.

The nice thing is that a guy who runs a 4.6 – 40yd. isn’t a problem for us if he shows certain characteristics. When I read things like “a true downhill runner” or he “doesn’t dance around the pile” I perk up. I’ve appropriated the term “goodness of fit” (Kruskal-Wallace) to describe athletes who fit our scheme wonderfully but are downgraded by most others. And hearing comments like ‘he might not go until the middle rounds’ is music to my ears.

Here’s another one, Shonn Greene, Iowa. It’s rather fun finding guys like this, especially when there’s a chance they’ll still be available in the middle rounds, where we have extra picks. Most will be gone by then, but all we need to do is hit on a few.

by Colinski on Nov 21, 2008 2:45 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Saw Greene play a game recently

Thought right away that he’d be a good Bronco

He doesn’t know anything but 100 percent
- Shanahan on Larsen

by broncobear on Nov 21, 2008 3:15 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bradley,

You are correct, of course. We not only target one-cutters, but one-cutters who do a good job. I didn’t do a good job of conveying sarcasm in my comment, and for that I apologize. (I almost wrote that even “I” could play RB in the Denver ZB, but I thought it was so over the top it would fall flat).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Nov 20, 2008 4:51 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mahalo HT!

Thank you for pressing on and posting “Chalk Talk”! Hope you get better soon. I’ll be praying for a speedy recovery!

"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"

by BroncoCountryHawaii on Nov 20, 2008 11:41 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get Well soon HT! Great Chalk Talk, Thanks

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08

by firstfan on Nov 20, 2008 1:23 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta love it HT!

Great journalizm! I loved the “plot”, good vs. evil. Its a perfect fit. I appreciate the post and the comparisons.

Get well soon!

by metalman5050 on Nov 20, 2008 2:46 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ahhh... HT, Chalk Talk is always so refreshing.

Get well soon!

His Highness, The Duke of Juke, Fast Easy Eddie Casino Crown Royale With Cheese!

by papigrande on Nov 20, 2008 7:55 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

has anyone seen cbs sportslines picks

OUTRIGHT AMAZING!!
these people are IDIOTS we killed the raiders last time why do they think they’re goin to come into denver and win???

Notice only the 2 computers pick the broncos,, all the actual ‘expert’ picks pisk the freaking faiders

by RiG on Nov 20, 2008 9:34 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Broncos rarely cover any spread as favorites..

not sure why, but that has been the case for several years now….

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Nov 21, 2008 7:48 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

raider week!

this is definitely a huge game for us “veterans” that remember. the youngins hated the chiefs more(when they were good), and now the chargers(because they are good), but these 2 games a season are priceless to me, and we won’t let anyone forget that.

and it’s ohio state-michigan rivalry week, also. sweet! go broncos, go buckeyes, and ht, go to a specialist. that sounds pretty nasty. get well, and godspeed

hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!

by davecheffy on Nov 20, 2008 9:37 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds like HT's health is as bad as the raiders personnel staff

The good news is that you can get better, Krazy Al’s staff won’t get better.

The future looks so bright that we're going to need blue and orange sunglasses!

by Arctic Bronco on Nov 20, 2008 9:44 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Update...

Despite my health, an emergency came up and I had to go into work Thu for about twelve hours! There was just no other way, and I did as best I could. In return, I’m being given three days off starting today. I now plan on doing some serious resting and fluid pushing. If I don’t get paged in, I’ll have plenty of time to hang around MHR while in bed, so that’s a plus.

Thanks to everyone for the rec’s and the “get better” wishes. All the best to all of you!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Nov 21, 2008 5:16 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least you love your job right? :)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08

by Zappa on Nov 21, 2008 7:49 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It certainly has its moments.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Nov 21, 2008 3:09 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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