What’s the deal with Cutler?
We have all noticed two different Broncos offenses this year. We’ve raved about the high-potency, pass-happy, high scoring offense of the first few weeks before becoming accustomed to a Broncos offense that has difficulties moving the ball, commits frequent turnovers, can’t run the ball, can’t pass the ball, and is all around pretty dismal.
It has been said many times that the fate of a team is directly related to the play of the QB, and that seems particularly true with the Broncos. Just as we’ve seen two different Bronco offenses, we’ve seen two different Jay Cutlers. There seems to be Jekyll Jay and a Hyde Jay (remember Good Jake, Bad Jake?). Many of us commented on a pronounced change in his demeanor from the first couple of games starting as early as the New Orleans game.
So what’s going on? Why has Cutler gone from a passing juggernaut to an interception machine? Why is he suddenly throwing so many INTs? If Jay was struggling with his blood sugar would the Broncos organization let us know? If his finger is still hurt, would they really play Hackney? Has he lost his confidence? Is it the injuries? Is it the playcalling? What’s the deal?
I still support Jay 100%; however, it seems clear that he and the offense are in a slump! So most importantly, as the offensive leader how can Jay get it turned around?
What do you think MHR?
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My 2 cents...
It’s a combo of a lot of things. No running game. Key targets being injured. Play calling. Taking what the defense gives you. Not trying to force low percentage passess. I think aganist the browns in lieu of a running game we need to switch to short 5-10 yd passes with a hurry up style mentatlity. Urgency! Like if we don’t get in to the end zone this season is going to slip away from us.
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Nov 4, 2008 12:00 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I chose inexperience, yet
it is a combo of a lot of things and the more bumbs they go through will help them in the future. I think you have something on those 5-10 yd passes. I have been thinking about this many times lately that I think we will be a team (when on the same page) will just methodically move down the field…..take what we are given, with the long passes when the matchups are there.
I know Cutler is young and still learning, however he needs to start making some good decisions. I mean several times I have seen a player wide open while he throws somewhere else for an INT on incomplete pass.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Nov 5, 2008 1:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jay is still the same guy he was last year and in week 2 this year...
Our offense is awful right now.
Jay is an emotional player. He knows that if he has a bad game, that the Broncos will lose. That’s a lot of pressure. He needs to learn how to deal with it though. It’s not going to go away for a few more seasons.
Denver’s offense is high risk/high reward. For all of the things that went right in weeks 1-3, as many things have gone wrong since.
The coaches need to reign in the playcalling and ask Cutler to spread the ball around and throw to the backs. They must demand that he be patient, because the payoff is that eventually he can begin to work the deeper zones once the defense isn’t sitting in his zones waiting for him to grow impatient.
I liken Denver’s offense to a pitcher who has an unreal slider. For a while, batters try and hit his below average fastball and below average changeup because the slider’s a touch pitch to hit. The changeup and fastball usually aren’t even strikes. Eventually though, they see his slider enough and sit on it. It doesn’t seem like an unbeatable pitch if its all he’s got and he keeps throwing it.
So, what I’m saying is that Jay/Bates/Shanny need to give the offense a few other good pitches, otherwise everyone’s gonna sit on our slider.
Did that make any sense?
by super7 on Nov 4, 2008 12:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree with super7's comment more...
Jay needs to learn how to channel his emotions. He’s young, very competitive and has the weight of the Broncos world on his shoulders. I think this season will serve him well in the future.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Nov 4, 2008 1:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm....Reminds me of someone...
oh yeah…JOHN ELWAY!
Elway was just like this is his first few games, had the weight of the Boncos on his shoulder, tried to win every game with one pass, threw a lot of picks, had some amazing games.
No worries Cutler WILL develop and mature into not only another Elway, but quite possibly an Elway with better team results (Better supporting cast, Marshall, Royal, Clady, etc.).
Go M's
by OBF on Nov 5, 2008 2:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If you look back at the Miami game
When Denvers offense was the most dangerous is when they would throw some passes to Hillis then that would open up Royal and Stokley. He needs to look for Graham and Scheff (when he can play again) and Marshall will get his when teams dont focus on Marshall.
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by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 4, 2008 1:11 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
What happened to Nate Jackson?
That guy was a starter at the start of the season. It seems like he’s been rarely used since.
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by UnarmingMermaid on Nov 4, 2008 2:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He made a catch against Miami
Didn’t see him the rest of the game, though.
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by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 4, 2008 2:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Classic Nate Jackson disappearing act
the dude does this every year, he wows coaches and fans during hte preseason, and then is a now show for most of the season. Can’t believe I gave hima spot on my fantasy roster this year. (It was only a week or two, but cmon..)
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2008 4:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What is the reason?
I doubt if it is Nate’s choice he is not being thrown to. He seems to block well when in the game. I honestly do not know why we do not see more of him. Maybe he is in Coach Shanahan’s dog house for some reason we do not know.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Nov 4, 2008 8:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He isn't getting the best of his matchups
It is a combination of speed and awareness for a TE in Shanny’s system, and Nate isn’t getting into the right place at the right time.
An example (overly exemplary) of this kind of play is Last year in a goallline formation early in the year Scheff has an assignment to block on the RE. THey play fires off and it is supposed to be one of those play action rollouts looking for the FB, who I believe was Sapp. So Scheff fires off the line looking for a block, only to uncover as the LBs play to the middle of the line. he said afterwards that when he saw no one was blocking him he just felt he NEEDED to get turned around and present to Cutler—even though the play didn’t even have him as a receiver with a pattern to run.
As it turned out the bootleg was being blown up behind him and Cutler had pulled up in the pocket and seen #88 uncovered in the endzone. Before Scheffler turned around, the ball was already on the way and he actually had to sort of bat it to himself as a result of not getting his hands all the way up before the ball got there. It was a TD.
This is above and beyond the call of duty, but the TE is such a dynamic position in Shanny’s offense that he MUST be constantly aware and on his toes, and trying to create. That production begets further production, and Nate seems to not quite be there. He could play TE in any offense, but I don’t think he has that natural feel for the position that will set him above the rest.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Nov 4, 2008 8:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Nate Jackson isn't a starter in the NFL,
but he is a survivor. Every year he is on the bubble but he makes the team. He is probably a good ST player and is a good safety valve for the coaches.
The nicest thing is he didn’t cost the Broncos a draft choice. He was acquired from the 49ers during the preseason when he was a rookie for a conditional draft choice. If he made the team the Broncos would lose a 7th rounder. He was a final cut, survived the waiver wire, then the Broncos reinstated him a couple of days later and didn’t have to cough up the 7th rounder. He spent his rookie season on the PS, then was converted to a light weight TE. The fact that his blocking is adequate is surprising based on his light body weight and slender frame (relative to other TEs). His ability to block must mean he has a good work ethic and is coachable.
by Arctic Bronco on Nov 4, 2008 8:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks to styg and Arctic Bronco
this makes sense.
That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08
by firstfan on Nov 4, 2008 9:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree with most of the comments
Missing a running game and playing from behind has not helped, but I think it really comes down to Jay being able and willing to listen and learn from what the coaching staff is telling him. I have noticed besides the obvious mistakes, that there are other mistakes that he has been making that shouldn’t happen, like taking a three step drop from the shotgun, this allows the DE a easy line to the QB and puts a huge amount of pressure on the OT, he needs to stand there, let the pocket develop, and step up into it and throw (he did it earlier in the season, now he has happy feet). He obviously is not doing his progressions, and seems to get panic attack if his primary isn’t open, and he is trusting his arm more than his head, all things he should be over by now, that I relate to coach interaction.
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by Broncoman on Nov 4, 2008 1:39 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people are saying that injuries are the problem.
But don’t good QBs and and teams overcome injuries? This is a very deep offense. Also, a great QB should make everyone around him better, starter or not. Is Jay doing that?
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by UnarmingMermaid on Nov 4, 2008 2:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, injuries happen to every team, I don't buy because Scheffler isn't playing that Jay should stink
Graham is underrated target and Jackson can get open, so I don’t see the big problem with missing people in the lineup, look what Brady did with the scrubs he had playing for him.
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by Broncoman on Nov 4, 2008 2:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you guys think that Cutler may be getting too fired up?
Does he just need to relax a little?
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by UnarmingMermaid on Nov 4, 2008 2:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think it is reverse
I rather see some energy and spark from him, not go pout on the sidelines.
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by Broncoman on Nov 4, 2008 2:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else laugh when he threw his white towel after the blown Marshall call on the TD?
I have to admit I laughed my ass off. It’s totally how I would have responded, but also shows he needs to learn how to control his emotion.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Nov 4, 2008 2:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that's part of the reason that I think he may need to cool it a bit!
also…you occasionally see a shot of here where he looks like he’s about to blow a gasket. I know that when I play sports that I start to struggle when I get too fired up…I wonder if he is having that same problem.
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by UnarmingMermaid on Nov 4, 2008 3:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame him one bit for being pissed
however he need to keep is cool and move on the the next play. I honestly think Jay’s third pick was a result of that TD being called back because we had someone on a short route that was rediculously wide open.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Nov 5, 2008 1:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oops...
“shot of him” is what I meant!
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by UnarmingMermaid on Nov 4, 2008 3:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
oops...
that was supposed to be a reply to my last comment. Man, i’m really strugglin’.
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by UnarmingMermaid on Nov 4, 2008 3:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I need to relax!
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by UnarmingMermaid on Nov 4, 2008 3:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Breath in......Breath out.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 4
by weazel on Nov 5, 2008 1:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
With Cutler it is simply growing pains
at a tough position. He will be dynamite.
by Steve O' on Nov 4, 2008 6:00 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
plenty of targets
still available in royal, graham, stokely, the jacksons… i really would like to see the te’s and stokely used more often, and maybe give him an outlet receiver to throw to. unfortunately, most of those are rb’s, and they’re banged up or done. but the main problem right now with jay is jay. his checkdowns need to be emphasized now, and he’s seeing less time in the pocket without a running game, or even a real fear of the passing attack these days. very tough situation for him, and the only solution may be the time to develop chemistry with all of his receivers. i guess you can’t rush that. this is a bit of a pickle, isn’t it?
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by davecheffy on Nov 4, 2008 11:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
It is all mental with Cutler...
he had an over inflated opinion of himself after the first 3 games, starting spruking in the media, was doing interviews, making statements etc and forgot about football.
Karma in sports is a bitch and he started playing like a one dimensional player STRAIGHT after his quotes on Elway and has gone down hill.
A lot of people say he plays with emotion….I dont see it. He has NO fire, RARELY takes resposnsibility for his woes and seems to be losing the team with his petulent, mamby pamby attitude.
The kid could be great, but first he needs to grow into a man!
Stokley and BM need to take the mantle of offensive leader from him and get him to concentrate on football.
Cutler (mainly) has cost us 3 losses….he has been responsible for turnovers with bad play and decision making. I am not cutting him ANY slack…hes a 1st round draft pick.
If guys like Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan can get it done their first year in, Cutler has NO excuses!
by boydy2669 on Nov 5, 2008 3:43 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Great point!
But let’s please refrain from refering to Brandon Marshall as BM…BMarsh is best. (-;
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by UnarmingMermaid on Nov 5, 2008 12:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

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