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Denver Broncos 34, Cleveland Browns 30 -- Redemption

Final Game Stats

Category Broncos Browns
Score 34 30
Rushing Yards
123 160
Passing Yards
441 239
Total Yards 564 399
T.O.P 27:51

32:09

Turnovers 1

1

Redemption says it all, don't you think?

Make a mistake?  Make it up.  Get down?  Get back up.  Giving in?  Don't give up.

We have all week to talk about what went wrong:  The defense missed tackles and didn't stop the run.  The Broncos running threat is diminished.  Marshall was out of it for nearly 50 minutes of football.

But 60 minutes of football is what counts, and this team showed up to play, all night.

If we were handing out game balls, it is hard to say where to begin.  How about Hillis, stepping in and stepping up when EVERY Broncos RB went down this season.  He is still learning pass-catching FB in a  Mike Shanahan offense, and he was expected to learn TB in 5 minutes or less?  He showed that there is a time for learning and a time for playing football.  His diving lunge, with a tackler riding him, after being hit in the backfield, for a critical 4th down conversion in the final quarter of play hasn't been seen in a Denver Broncos tailback since Mike Anderson took the field.

Or how about Cutler?  After lobbing a killer INT (not necessarily his fault), and then getting VERY lucky a few times on near picks, he settled in and was throwing perfect passes.  Touch passes, long passes, ropes across the middle.  With every pass I became more and more sure that he was going to put it right where it needed to be, and Iforgot about critical INTs at inconceivable times.  Instead  we get a perfect defensive read, and a heads up scramble for a first down deep in Cleveland territory, followed by a perfect read on Marshall's coverage in the endzone.

Speaking of Marshall, how about him?  After looking like his head was you-know-where for the first 50 minutes of the game, being pushed around by smaller, lighter, slower players, after being made to look like a stonehanded statue, he made a perfect play in the endzone in a man coverage situation, and embarrased the defender in the process.  Back to being the old Marshall.  Almost too far back, however, and thank whatever stars shined on us tonight that Stokely, and the others were there to stop him from drawing a penalty  that would have hurt us pretty badly on the ensuing kickoff.  Still, I would like to know what he had planned.  Think he'll talk?

Lastly, I want to tip the MHR hat to a defense that could have been the Denver Towels, or the Slightly Broncos.  But 60 minutes meant something to them too tonight, and despite the missed tackles, the multiple injuries and the free pass they gave to Quinn, I am enjoying the flashes that I am seeing.  Anybody notice the two deep safeties?  It was hit and miss, but the corners looked a lot better this game.  I hope DJ never comes back, if it means I don't get to see anymore Wesley Woodyard, I like the kid that much.  A very good offensive line beat up on our d-line all game, but the four man rush at the end was not making Quinn's job easy, and Dumervil was a force.

Before I leave you guys to your thoughts, lets congratulate Brady Quinn on doing more than anyone expected, even Browns fans.  They didn't want him to suck.  He showed some things tonight that that franchise can definitely build on going forward.

So that is it, we have the equivalant of a bye week coming up and no matter what happens we are a first place team.  Tell the world.

This isn't a team any Broncos' fan needs to be ashamed of.

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Apparently he had a black and white glove that he was taking out his pants

to honor Obama. And Stokely was the only one who knew about it…

by atthehive on Nov 6, 2008 9:57 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok

it looked like a micheal Jackson glove now that you mention it…

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Nov 6, 2008 9:58 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brandon Stokely

made his biggest play of the season by stopping Marshall from displaying the glove. I think his idea was ok, but it was at the wrong time.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 6, 2008 10:38 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree

So glad Stokely made it over in time. That was nearly disastrous. I love how Nate Jackson came over from the back to celebrate only to see Brandon yelling at Brandon.

by atthehive on Nov 6, 2008 11:16 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Styg, you da man.....

I was SSSOOOO pissed at our 1st half…and I vented….but FUCK dude…our rookies stepped up, both on the O and D…Hillis, Royal, Woodyard…man….all was good.
The defnese settled down whne Niko came in…,.we need tio keep him in there.
Great effort, loved that BM took Jays Ineterception on his chin, loved the way Jay played….just show you what these young guys have ….SHANNY, GIVE THIS TEAM TO THE YOUTH!!!!

by boydy2669 on Nov 6, 2008 10:04 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Niko is definitely slower than Webster

But I think he ends up in the right place more consistently.. And since one of the biggest problems with the defense is that they cannot go more than 6 plays ina row without giving up a big play. I say keep Niko in two (and maybe move Webster outside if he is healthy).

What a gutty second half from the entire team, coming from behind while shorthanded. I hope this was a season shifter.

by MattR on Nov 6, 2008 10:09 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't say I saw Niko make any plays

but I did see Webster completely whiff on a run by either Harrison or Lewis where he was able to at least redirect him toward the middle (where there would have been an MLB if he wasn’t it) and resulted in a fairly long run.

Woodyard was awesome. I love how he after he stopped Lewis for a loss he got up in his grill and didn’t back down when Lewis challenged him. That’s the kind of fire that this defense has needed for years!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 7, 2008 9:02 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woooooooo

not only did i love the heart this team showed to want it that bad…..First place still….
JC SAVES i really want that shirt now

Did i mention i got 56 points combined from jc and bmarsh to start the fantasy week off in great fashion…woooooooooo

Oh and was the sports guru at the game i could of swore i saw him in the crowd during the postgame nfl network show…

now i can sleep happily

The quest is the Highway to the Danger Zone-Kenny loggins

by TommyTSlice on Nov 6, 2008 10:06 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

80 Points!

I’ve got Cutler, Marshall, Scheffler, Torain, and Prater starting, and I put up 80 points on a Thursday night, and I still have Chris Johnson playing on Sunday. This is going to be a ridiculous week for my team.

"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway

by jibbons on Nov 6, 2008 11:28 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cool

I have Cutler, Marshall and Prater, I had benched Scheffler since I wasn’t sure he would play or play very long. But I also have Maurice Jones Drew and Marion Barber and Titans D, so I am expecting over 150 pts.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 11:30 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

95 myself

Cutler, Marshall, Royal, Scheffler, and Prater

Needless to say, I got a good start to the fantasy week.

And to think I was debating starting Royal…

by hai17 on Nov 7, 2008 12:23 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My buddy

is in a FFL league and his opponent had Cutler and Royal. His opponent got around 90 points for those 2 guys alone.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 7, 2008 9:42 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I put up 80 as well with JC, ER and TS

Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.

by kwool79 on Nov 7, 2008 9:56 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

108

Cutler, Torain, Marshall, Royal, Scheff, and Prater!

Broncos Avenged

by Best In The West on Nov 7, 2008 11:43 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well said...

That Torain injury looked bad…hopefully its not too serious cuz he looked pretty good before going out.

MELO!!!

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by abaca15 on Nov 6, 2008 10:07 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Durability.

Like Selvin Young before him, I’m starting to wonder whether Torrain will be durable enough to turn his obvious talent into consistent production.

Here we go again: http://thefulldeck.blogspot.com/

by ejruiz on Nov 6, 2008 10:09 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

with the caveat

that I don’t think Selvin was all that talented to begin with.

But I see where you are going with this. One of the running themes in the 2009 offseason?….

“What is this rookie’s (free agent’s, CFA’s, etc.) injury history?”

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Nov 6, 2008 10:13 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5.7 YPC

Those are pretty respectable numbers for basically his first game.

It would have been great to see him get 100 yards in his first start as a rookie (and he would have too if he hadn’t hurt his knee). At least he got his first TD!

Another sad day for the Denver Running Backs. Hillis is the light at the end of the tunnel (if he can stay healthy)!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 7, 2008 9:06 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The fact he walked off the field without much help makes me think he will be OK

I wonder if he knows how to fall, seems like his injuries are from awkward tackles. I admire not wanting to go down easy, but good, durable RB know when to go down and when to fight for extra yards.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:27 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was not exactly a horse collar (only b/c the guy didn't have his hand in the jersey)

but it was that same kind of awkward take down that causes a lot of injuries.

by Sneaky Sean on Nov 7, 2008 8:23 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True, when I saw it I cringed.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 7, 2008 9:42 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Insightful analysis from Chargers fans:
I can’t recall ever seeing a quarterback play so poorly with such positive results.
The Broncos are a terrible football team, but the Browns were worse tonight.

13-3 next year! Baby!

by papigrande on Nov 6, 2008 10:11 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All you need to do is consider the source.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 6, 2008 10:31 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whats up with NFL Network

Showing all the love to Quinn… What about us…

by isiddiqi on Nov 6, 2008 10:16 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Broncos don't get top billing

See the Hall of Fame for proof.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Nov 6, 2008 10:23 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has more endorsement deals than Cutler.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:24 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree, most overhyped QB coming out of college

If he had played anywhere else but ND he would of been a 4th to 5th round pick.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:28 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, I am going to ask a silly question

Do we take the risk and sign DeAngelo Hall, in all seriousness.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:24 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is worth a risk

but is a bad cahracter and frankly, our CB situation looks fine. Paymah has looked as good as Hall would look here, even if we all agree that Hall is more talented….

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Nov 6, 2008 10:27 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really wasn't impressed with Paymah, and we need depth.

I just think if there is a low risk signing that we look at it.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:29 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too much money

He has several teams courting him already, they can pay to hope he pulls a Moss for them.

Now, when Crazy Al’s football emporium cuts Asomugha, Pat should get his wallet out.

"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway

by jibbons on Nov 6, 2008 11:33 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very true, I would love to get Asomugha.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 7, 2008 9:42 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BUZZED UP!

The fact that you came up with this post so quickly says everything to me! And you R so right on! I cannot B more happy with this win, as I am certain that everone who R Broncos fans will automatically admit.

I saw so many things in this game that made me happy, the toughness, the hang in there, the individual efforts, etc.!

I seriously hope that this is truely just the beginning!

by metalman5050 on Nov 6, 2008 10:26 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who Know?

our RB are going down like flys

by gnarlybroncodude on Nov 6, 2008 10:30 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Torn ACL

Already IR’d!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 7, 2008 9:10 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Very proud of this team...

If you’ve been a Broncos fan through the tough years, seasons like this won’t ruin your “faith” in the team. We all know they have limitations (defense, health, youth, etc). However, they play with heart and give us hope. I still can’t believe how great our draft class has been this year…

Clady, Royal – Phenomenal seasons
Hillis – Mid-season savior
Lichtensteiger , Jack Williams, Torain, Spencer Larsen (ST stud) – all contributing

I’m very stoked about the years to come… I’ve also ordered a brand new defense from China. It came cheap and should arrive on Monday.

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Nov 6, 2008 10:33 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

The China connection! Wow, Who is that tall Chineese guy who plays in the NBA?

by metalman5050 on Nov 6, 2008 10:36 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yao!

He could totally knock down passes!

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Nov 6, 2008 10:36 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Be careful,

there’s probably excessive amount of lead in that defense.

by hooper on Nov 7, 2008 7:43 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I loved the fight in the Broncos

This could be a game that gets the broncos rolling. I like how they never quit. Royal’s TD pass was the start of a great comeback. JC showed poise and never quit. I think this win could be a spring board for the Broncos. It also goes to the fact that the Broncos have transitioned from a running team to a passing team. Like it or not thats who they are right now.
Also this was the Broncos longest pass play since 1981 when Steve Watson caught a 95 yard TD pass from Craig Morton against the Chargers in Mile High

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 6, 2008 10:35 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cutler

1 record at a time…

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Nov 6, 2008 10:36 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The record I want him to break

Is Elways wins record and SB wins and appearance records

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 6, 2008 10:42 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It helps that we play ATL next week...

although they have the players to shred our defense… seriously, we should all mail duct tape to the Broncos training facility tomorrow. They need rolls of it!

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Nov 6, 2008 10:38 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

really, what?

that ATL can run all over our D? Yes. Can throw on our D? Yes. Broncos need duct tape because they’re all broken? Yes. :)

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Nov 6, 2008 10:42 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Nov 6, 2008 10:42 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Along with Broncoman, bfsisd, and metalman

I loved the fight and never give up attitude. THAT, my friends, is Bronco football.

That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08

by firstfan on Nov 6, 2008 11:13 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was out for this

there was an actual fight? what happened? who was involved?

by Tollyvolley on Nov 7, 2008 12:09 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More of a never say die fight

Although Woodyard got into Jamal Lewis’s face after stopping him for a loss after Webster went down.

I think the fight they are talking about is more figurative of how they played. They didn’t just roll over when they were getting beat but actually fought back (twice) and got the win.

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 7, 2008 9:13 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ahh alright

though a real fight would have been pretty sweet

by Tollyvolley on Nov 7, 2008 1:06 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed...

They totally proved me wrong and I could not be happier!
Great comments BFSISD!

by boydy2669 on Nov 7, 2008 5:50 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will do my penance

tonight, after predicting a Browns win—33-13. I must say that with the score 23-13 and the Browns moving as the fourth quarter arrived, I was feeling smug, sorry and sad but vindicated nonetheless that I had correctly diagnosed a team that had it in them to fold it up, send what had once been a promising season off to the cleaners for flushing or extra heavy rinse or sayonara… but somehow Wesley Woodyard and Jamie Winborn, and BMarsh and Eddie Eagle and Sheff, and PHillis (second freakin effort), and DGraham and Jay Cutler (who still needs to learn to progress through more than one or at most two reads) wouldn’t let the dream die. And I will hand it to our boys for proving me wrong and keeping hope alive and showing some gut on the road. And I will give them their props, and a sliver of light, of hope that they can beat the Falcons and keep the dream alive, while DJ and Champ and Selvin heal and we rise up with some temper born of the fire of loss and trial, and become again a glimpse of the team that we will be in years to come and feed us with that tasty promising hope of what is not so far away.
This was a good win. :)

"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason."
The Shanahan

by Broncs Cheer on Nov 6, 2008 10:38 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great game but we still have some serious holes on defense

Really think the offense came together and matured, hopefully that carries over for the rest of the season, but our defense will struggle the rest of the year. Hopefully theycan do enough to make plays when they need to.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:39 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the defense does have holes

but they are so beat up and injured I am surprised they play a good at times as they have. I am more convinced this team will be much better next season

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 6, 2008 10:40 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree, they will be better next season

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:42 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im just happy they didn't quit...

a lot of teams would have… Woody and Winborn were non-stop tonight.

I wish Woody Paige was our coach!

by bcfunk on Nov 6, 2008 10:43 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was soooo proud of the D!

I don’t think they sucked, I just think that they all pulled together the best that they could and I think that the D will still come together this year, as best that they can, and with the players who are left!.
Who’s left? Well, they will step up.

by metalman5050 on Nov 6, 2008 10:49 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here's another question

Looks like Woodyard and Winborn can play, do we cut Boss Bailey after the season and risk pissing off Champ?

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:44 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know if he would.

I really think the only reason we signed Boss was because of Champ, the guy hadn’t stayed healthy since he joined the league and hadn’t been a force. I could see some hard feelings out of Champ.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:48 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As much as I love Obama...

"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason."
The Shanahan

by Broncs Cheer on Nov 6, 2008 10:45 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take BStokely's side

here…

"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason."
The Shanahan

by Broncs Cheer on Nov 6, 2008 10:49 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just read that feed!

Awsome input. That is a trip. I think that a r w & blue would not have drawn a penalty!

by metalman5050 on Nov 6, 2008 10:54 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Except that it was pre-planned

and that is against the rules thanks to T.O.‘s Sharpie and Joe Horn’s Cell Phone.

He probably would have been fined (and possibly suspended) as well as possibly costing the game.

Great move by Stokes!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 7, 2008 9:20 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good team fight to get the win

It was like the team had a collective, “enough is enough!” moment. Hillis’ 4th down dive, Marshall’s redemption in the end zone, Cutler showing some emotion through his throws and runs, even the much criticized Dre Bly with the strip.

21 points in the 4th quarter. I think that tells the story more than anything.

InYoFace Phadouche! InYoFace

by InYoFace on Nov 6, 2008 10:55 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Drive, and The Drive, And The Drive!

Well, it’s a beginning and we have a few more of them to go.

by metalman5050 on Nov 6, 2008 10:58 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Drive and The Three Drives

"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway

by jibbons on Nov 7, 2008 12:10 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NFLN didnt realize that Denver also had a QB

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 6, 2008 11:03 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I said this somewhere else but Quinn is the most overhyped QB ever

Had he been at any other school he would of been a 4th or 5th round draft pick. He basically rode the Norte Dame gravy train to the 1st round of the draft.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 11:11 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree 100%

i want to see what he does when he plays a better defense than what he played tonight

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 6, 2008 11:13 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, and has a defense that has more than three days to prepare for.

Quinn basically showed what he is, a guy with marginal arm strength and can be inaccurate at times.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 11:21 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

plus he never tried to stretch the field

a better tackling team would have shut down the browns quite easily

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 6, 2008 11:24 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed, very good point

I really think the Browns are screwed in that they committed large amounts of money to Anderson and Quinn, and really both are marginal starters in the league.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 11:28 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The whole story line was Quinn....

And no on hed given Denver a chance.
They kept plugging it even when they lost…..typical NFL Channel. Deion gave some big props to Cutler as did Sheffler if I remember correctly!

by boydy2669 on Nov 7, 2008 5:55 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Mighty Quinn

Never threw a pass over ten yards.

"Be not like dumb-driven cattle...."

by jcps on Nov 7, 2008 2:44 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's because he is built for show, not to go

He is more interested in having the best body on the team, not actually being able to play the position. He had a difficult time throwing at ND over ten yards with any accuracy, he can do all the curls in the world, he still has a noodle arm.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 7, 2008 3:41 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, new Cleveland hate list:

1.) Art Model
2.) John Elway
3.) Jay Cutler
4.) Pittsburgh Steelers

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 10:59 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

5.) Kellen Winslow

InYoFace Phadouche! InYoFace

by InYoFace on Nov 6, 2008 11:03 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was going to put 5.) Micheal Jordon

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 11:04 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess

when you flex in the 1st qtr, it would be beneficial to catch the rock in the 4th when the game is on the line. I dont think a real soldier would have dropped that pass

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by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 6, 2008 11:04 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He owned it afterword and said as much

I give him credit for taking the blame.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 11:05 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had a mental image of Winslow being pelted with empty beer cups at the end of the game as he walked into the locker room. Even if he is just the whipping boy for the Browns fans.

InYoFace Phadouche! InYoFace

by InYoFace on Nov 6, 2008 11:05 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Empty if he was lucky

I am guessing some may have been full of a golden liquid not being beer.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 11:11 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Winslow was shattered...

After the game he took it on the chin and was pretty down. I will give him kudos for that!

by boydy2669 on Nov 7, 2008 5:57 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My big question (TD brought it up too)

Why was Cleveland’s defense falling for play action passes in the forth quarter, especially having Crommel being a “defensive” mastermind.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 6, 2008 11:03 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was because they wer'nt sure what Denver was bringing.

Denver has been so sporatic with what they have done that no one realy KNOWS what they r duing, not even THEM!

by metalman5050 on Nov 6, 2008 11:35 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Denver still does not know what exactly that they are doing, not on O! They throw in this and that and, Well...

It didn’t really surprise me how long it took to actually get, at least one running play. GO FIGGUR!

by metalman5050 on Nov 6, 2008 11:39 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome game!!!

Well, the Broncos played their hearts out and did it for 60 minutes. Sure they didn’t play well for a majority of the game, however they stepped up when it was called for. They didn’t give up and kept fighting.

Every QB has one game where he comes of age and I personally think that game was tonight for Jay Cutler. Mistakes were made and despite the pick, which BMarsh put on himself, and the fact that we lost all our RBs in the second quarter, Culter knew he had to will his team to a victory and boy did he. I mean the play where as soon as he dropped back he took off and moved the ball just outside the 10 yard line was sweet. Give a bunch of credit to our o-line because they gave Jay time to throw the ball when the Browns knew we had no running game.

Hillis continues to impress me. I remember some members here say some good things about this guiy and boy were they right. I know we lost last week, however he came in and had a big game. Today he does it one better and comes in and fills in as RB and converts on a 4th and 1 with a guy on him.

I hear you Styg on the deep safeties. I remember one play where Bly played underneath and had help up top and it resulted in an incomplete pass. Hopefully this will continue and give our CBs some help.

The Broncos played hard and they showed that they can comeback from a double-digit lead to win the game. The first half had me pissed only to be screaming with joy when Royal scored on that 93-yd TD. Oh, and good to see the defense reach in and strip the ball from Winslow to help us get back in it.

GO BRONCOS!!!

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 5

by weazel on Nov 7, 2008 12:05 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The romo crennel

the romo crennel is sent pack away with egg on face guy. He all kind of boasted win.

I is fan of the Denver

by Horvil Tiki on Nov 7, 2008 1:37 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See kids, this is what's known as hyperbole...
I hope DJ never comes back, if it means I don’t get to see anymore Wesley Woodyard…

That said, I’ve loved Woodyard since college and was always wondering why he was burred so far down the depth chart. He should be a starter alongside DJ.

by SethGrandpa on Nov 7, 2008 2:47 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was so impressed...

with the emotion Woody brought. Not only did he make a ton of plays, but he also was in their face. When he bumped-up against Jamal, I got so fired up. You could see it in the defense as well. If Nate is out, we need this guy in there to bring the pain.

by ButteBronco on Nov 7, 2008 8:39 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was impressed too.

It’s going to be hard to keep that kid off the field and I say great. What’s that old expression? “It’s not the size of the dog in the fight…”

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Nov 7, 2008 9:29 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right on Jack!

That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08

by firstfan on Nov 7, 2008 9:33 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

to me this is where our team is being built

Look at all of the great and up and coming guys who are 3rd picks or undrafted. Marshall, Hillis, Woody, Harris, etc. I think the defense will get better little by little for this season. I truly believe the better days for our Broncos are just over the horizon. And i am so geeked about that. Thus game as it was said by Weazel was a defining moment for Cutler. As the drive was for Elway. this I think elevates Cutler. He was so-so in the first 3 quarters, and in the 4th qtr he threw for 207 and 3 scores. I just wish this game would have been on Sunday Night football so more people would have saw it. I think also two of the rookies of the year played great Eddie Royal and Clady.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Nov 7, 2008 9:51 AM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree that it seemed like a defining moment.

And it did remind me of an Elway performance. John could bounce around for a while, almost like he was marking his time for the fourth quarter, and then turn it up a couple of notches and pull it out and the end.

There was even some good clock management at the end. With so little time left on the clock after the Marshall TD, the Browns may have felt a little extra pressure to be perfect. Throws that might have been easy in the 1st or 2nd quarter might suddenly have become difficult. I’m not sure but I wonder.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Nov 7, 2008 1:20 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hard to argue with that,

But does it mean sending DJ back to the strong side, another position change?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Nov 7, 2008 1:22 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought the same thing

since they are both weakside LBs.

Maybe Woody can take over at MLB? He’s got the same fire at Webster but seems to be more in control. He’s probably not ready for calling the defense play though so that may still fall on DJ when he gets back.

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano

by DesertBroncoFan on Nov 7, 2008 2:23 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would say maybe we look at going to a strait 3-4 next year

Put DJ and Wodyard on the outsides where they can attack, and bring in some good ILB, or maybe give Winborn a shot, although I like him better backing up on the outside. I would like to see Larsen get a shot at a ILB in a 3-4 and then draft another ILB/MLB.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Nov 7, 2008 3:44 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is interesting, but...

…is there a kid out there in the next draft who can step in and start at MLB?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Nov 7, 2008 3:48 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there has to be....

LB is one of the best positions to make an immediate impact in their 1st year

by RiG on Nov 7, 2008 5:50 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the idea Jack

but for this to work we would need (as Dave points out below) a really big Two Gap 0 technique NT that could absorb two offensive linemen and still stuff the run up the middle. That is a very precious commodity.

That’s ok with me. We’re playing for wins, not media publicity....HT 9/11/08

by firstfan on Nov 7, 2008 8:21 PM MST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

first

we would need about 1,000 lbs. of above-average linemen to make it all work. ain’t gonna happen. stick with the 4-3, get a real dt, mlb, and safety, and we are on our way

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by davecheffy on Nov 7, 2008 7:47 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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