Time For Broncos Fans To Get Excited!
Before you read this, please read the disclaimer below:
- 1. This is not a post that will look into stats and figure out what Jay Cutler's Yards-Per-Pass has to do with the price of rice in China.
- 2. This is not a post to talk about how Denver has lost their home field advantage.
- 3. This is not a post calling for the overthrow of yet another defensive coordinator.
- 4. This is not a post talking about Denver's inconsistency.
- 5. This is not a post talking about the highs and lows of yesterday's spanking.
- 6. This is a post about you getting pumped for the Denver Broncos.
- 7. This is a post that after reading you should feel like you just slammed a pot of super-concentrated caffeinated coffee spiked with an illegal substance.
- 8. This is a post that will make you want to ball up your fists, pump them in the air, and let roar a baritone, manly, and Denver loving, "YAAAA!"
- 9. This is a post that should make you steeple your fingers together and laugh evilly as you think about playing San Diego, Kansas City and Oakland twice a year.

It's time to get excited about the Denver Broncos. Throughout all the highs and lows of this season, I'm ready to say it; the Denver Broncos are kick ass and Mike Shanahan can stay the coach until he is prowling the sidelines in a walker with an assistant holding his play chart over his mouth to avoid evil lip readers.
If I am a GM, head coach, assistant, player, or fan of any other AFC West team right now, I'm saying, "Oh #$%*" right now because the Denver Broncos are freaking scary. I'm not talking Birds or other Alfred Hitchcock movie suspenseful scary; I'm talking the last Texas Chainsaw Massacre horrible, painful, torturous scary.
via nyc.metblogs.com
Enough with the Bill Williamson's of the world and all the other naysayers and doom-and-gloom reporters saying that we were all idiots for jumping on the Denver Bandwagon after the first three games. Enough with commentators saying how horrible the Denver defense is; how tragic, disastrous, terrible, porous, injury prone, and decimated it is.
Denver against the high powered Chargers and Saints? Brees and Rivers will light them up and Denver can just hope to play and lose respectably.
Jay Cutler against Tampa's solid defense; gooooooood bye Denver.
Denver against Cleveland? Please Cleveland has new excitement with Quinn at the helm and Denver's D is horrible. Plus Jamaal Lewis is going to show the world how poorly Denver tackles and their missed assignments.
Didn't you see Denver get beat down by Miami to lose their 3rd straight? I mean freaking 1-15 last year Miami!
Denver has only won 1 in the last 4 and they are going into Atlanta who are undefeated at home. Matt Ryan hasn't even thrown an interception at home. And don't even get me started on the spanking that Turner the Burner has in store for the terrible Denver Defense. Shoot, Denver might as well not even make the trip.
Denver against the Jets? Maybe Jay Cutler thinks he's not only better than Elway but Favre as well. The Jet's just beat the best team in the NFL with one of the best defenses. You think that the pathetic Denver defense is going to be anything more than a speed bump to them?
Denver is winning the AFC West and should clinch it pretty soon. Who in the NFL, even the MHR faithful, thought that Denver would win the AFC West? Sure they are people who love to throw in the ‘yea but' of San Diego's spectacular year but hey - a win is a win and winning is winning. Do you think in 10 years when people talk about Denver dominating the AFC West they will say, "Yea but San Diego played sub-par those years." No! Denver is going to the playoffs and that's what counts. Let's say it again... P-L-A-Y-O-F-F-S
Denver has really put up some impressive stats of late:
- 1. In the last 3 road victories, Denver has had 1,380 yards of total offense compared to the 1,146 yards allowed defensively.
- 2. In the last 3 road victories, Jay Cutler has thrown for 1,020 yards, 7 touchdowns, and 2 interceptions compared to opposing quarterbacks throwing for 736 yards, only 2 touchdowns, and 2 interceptions.
- 3. In the last 3 road victories, Denver has 374 rushing yards and 4 rushing touchdowns.
- 4. In the last 3 road victories, Denver has allowed only 2 sacks.
The Denver defense, in ways unbeknown to me, has found ways to win after losing more than half of their defensive starters. Among the second string who has replaced those starters have been 3 different rookies. They haven't necessarily been pretty but the Denver D is getting it done.
The Denver offense is simply scary. We all know that we ignored defense this reloading season and focused on offense and there were a lot of naysayers out there about Shanny's decisions. What has he rewarded them with? A Denver offense that is here for years to come and will only get better with age. Let's put excellence of the offense in perspective with their youth and lack of experience:
- Jay Cutler - 3rd year - 3,393 yards, 21 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, and an 87.8 QB Rating.
- Eddie Royal - 1st year - 63 receptions, 757 yards, 5 touchdowns.
- Brandon Marshall - 3rd year - 72 receptions, 942 yards, 4 touchdowns.
- Tony Scheffler - 3rd year - 28 receptions, 453 yards, 2 touchdowns.
- Daniel Graham - 7th year - 21 receptions, 261 yards, 4 touchdowns.
- Brandon Stokley - 9th year - 38 receptions, 410 yards, 3 touchdowns.
- Peyton Hillis - 1st year - 60 carries, 285 yards, 4.8 yards-per-carry, 4 touchdowns.
- Ryan Clady - 1st year - .5 sacks allowed.
- Ben Hamilton - 8th year - 2.5 sacks allowed.
- Casey Wiegmann - 13th year - 1 sack allowed.
- Chris Kuper - 3rd year - 0 sacks allowed.
- Ryan Harris - 2nd year - .5 sacks allowed.
If I am in the AFC West and I look at those stats, I think my future reloading seasons have become 1 dimensional and it has to be defensively oriented. The Denver offense is potent and young and its going to be solid for the next 10 years.
The rookies and other young players have stepped up and performed like no other. Shanny has cast off the FA pick up and instead focused on getting some youth and look what happened. Harris and Clady, both first year starters, have given up a combined single sack in an offense that throws more than any other team in the NFL. Eddie Royal has caught 63 receptions. Wesley Woodyard has 29 tackles in 4 games and Josh Bell had 3 passes defended in the victory over the Jets.
We went into this season thinking that we had too much running back depth and not enough linebacking depth; I guess that's why the play a whole season because look how things of changed - personally I think for the better. We know that we have production from all our running backs next year. Hillis was a diamond in the rough, Torain tore it up for his few carries, we know Young can run, and Pittman had some very good games. We now seem to have a bevy of linebackers in what seems to be our eventual switch to a 3-4. Woodyard is tearing it up, Larsen is solid but not standout, DJ Williams is a top performer as well, and Winborn has been a pleasant surprise after over pursuing his first few games. We have found a good nickel back or potential starter in Josh Bell. And we had a Josh Barrett sighting! He played well and made some good tackles at key times.
The offense is carrying our team right now and they are carrying our team right to the playoffs and an AFC West champion position. Next year when we get some defensive play makers, imagine how much more potent our team will be! No longer will other teams be able to get in a shootout with us. No longer will teams be able to run nilly willy on us. Soon we will start to see scores of 42-14 and 47-17 instead of 34-33 and 34-30.
I don't know about you guys but I'm more excited to be a Denver Bronco fan than I have been in a long time. We can see something beautiful being born and we are privileged to this information more than the average fan. We can tell that Denver is going places and going to be going there for a long time and lucky for us we got on just as the ride is starting.
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There should be another poll option between "domanance" and ".500"...
Cause that’s where I’m guessing most people fit.
by SethGrandpa on
Dec 1, 2008 10:30 AM MST
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What Do You Think...
…is a respectable record for our team next year? 10-6? 11-5?
Where do you see us finishing this year?
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 12:28 PM MST
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Thoughts
Next year: 11+ wins if we have even 1/2 as good an offseason as we did this year.
This year: I think we go 11 – 5. If we lose to anyone it will be San Diego in the closer. :)
by sadaraine on
Dec 1, 2008 1:46 PM MST
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Next year's schedule looks like a real doozy
(as of now, we know how these things change) I would be happy (very happy) with 10-6 next year, which should be just enough to make the playoffs. Check out the schedule for next year. Its not gonna be pretty…
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by styg50 on
Dec 1, 2008 2:06 PM MST
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I know we have the NFC East...
…which should be a doozy in itself. What about the rest of it?
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 7:05 PM MST
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We Have
The AFC North and the teams in the East and South that finish in the position in their divisons as Denver:
Home: SD, faders, KC, Cleve, Pitt, Dallas, Giants, and AFC East (lets just say the division winner)
road: SD, faders, KC, Balt, Cincy, Philly, Washington, AFC South (tenn)
Thats the schedule
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by broncfanstuckinsd on
Dec 2, 2008 11:45 AM MST
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I'm really f'n excited...
I just listened to MHRR from last night and the thing that stuck with me most is the need for a dominate RB. Maybe Hillis is that guy, we’ll see. I want to see him break a long one and outrun a couple DBs before I’m completely comfortable. I know the IR guys are not the answer.
Until we get that dominate back that we can rely on, and who can run against any defense at any time, ala TD, this offense will be disproportionately balanced toward the pass. A dominate, pure RB is the only missing piece to a flat-out unstoppable attack. I’d like to see us draft a non-injury prone guy early or else bring in a solid FA (I’m not even sure who’s out there). Spend the rest of the picks on the D.
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by ButteBronco on
Dec 1, 2008 11:02 AM MST
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my thoughts
1st round – Taylor Mays (Safety) USC
2nd round- Javon Ringer (RB) Michigan State
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by TommyTSlice on
Dec 1, 2008 11:33 AM MST
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I'm interested
Why did you place more emphasis on RB than DT?
I think that a single dominating DT solves many of our problems on D with one fell swoop.
So far as the running game, do we need a dominating running back or a dominating running game? I think yesterday was another confirmation that it doesn’t matter who is back there as long as someone is.
Not that spending a 2nd round pick on a running back would be wasting it – but do you think it’s necessarily needed?
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 12:30 PM MST
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D-line and O-line
We finally addressed the O-line in the past draft and look what it has done for the Offense. It is time we address the D-line early and often. Leave all the sexy picks for the second day.
I don't believe we can win every game, just the next one. - Lou Holtz
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by orangeblood on
Dec 1, 2008 1:30 PM MST
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Good points
I think it would be a bad idea to keep grabbing RBs. With the bunch we have this year getting healthy I’m all for going after D-Linemen and Safety prospects.
by sadaraine on
Dec 1, 2008 1:47 PM MST
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We definitely need a DT...
I would just rather pick one up in FA. DTs seem to take a few years to develop, and I beleive we could be an elite team as early as next year. If we have cap room, I say we write a big check to bring in a guy like Haynsworth. Again, a big check. Big, big check. I’ve said this on here a bunch before, our DL is playing very well this year. Thomas, Robinson, Peterson, DOOM, Moss, Ek, Berger are pretty solid. Add Powell and a big ticket FA, and we could dominate up front. The big check will be worth it. That said, maybe since our DL is solid right now, a top rookie will perform better than a guy like Dorsey has done in no man’s land.
On the other hand, a rookie RB can come in and contribute immediatly. Can you imagine drafting a guy like Chris Johnson or Matt Forte, or any young, dominate college back who is durable, powerful and fast. Someone mentioned the need for a “big three” (Aikman, Thomas, Irvin), and I agree. Maybe you draft a DT and get a top notch RB in FA? I would just rather keep the youth on offense.
Obviously, with nine picks the draft should be the primary focus. Thus, I’m not advocating an all-out FA blitz, but signing one or two guys this year could be huge (ala Alfred and Romo in the 1990s— the two best Shanny pickups ever, imo).
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 1, 2008 2:39 PM MST
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Seems to me...
that we’ve tried the big check approach on the DL in the past and it hasn’t worked out very well (DRob being a noted exception…although I’m not sure he’s been a major success story either). I’m really beginning to think that the draft is the best way to go and just keep developing our young guys (I still think Thomas is going to be pretty good). The main problem is that the guys on the FA market always seem to have a lot of baggage. You know the cliche, “they’re fa’s cause someone didn’t wan’t them”. Now if there is a guy with a ton of upside that won’t blow the bank (i.e. DRob) then I’m for it…otherwise I say we focus on the draft.
GO BRONCOS!!!
by UnarmingMermaid on
Dec 1, 2008 3:28 PM MST
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Gardner was a massive bust, right up there with Dale Carter...
but I’d argue Shanny’s D Line FAs have been good. Maybe I’m missing a few major busts (I have a feeling I am missing someone big), but Alfred Williams was great, Neil Smith was great, people like to slam the “Browncos” but we had a solid D when those guys were here, and like you said DRob has been solid thus far.
Also, there have been some great DL FA acquisitions in recent history— Stroud, Allen (Trade, I guess), Jenkins and Rodgers have all been good to great this year. Baltimore picked up a solid Trever Pryce a couple years ago too! Sometimes situations get stale and great players want a change of scenery.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 1, 2008 4:01 PM MST
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Last Year's FA DL Pickups
“Big” Sam Adams
Simeon Rice
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
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by DesertBroncoFan on
Dec 1, 2008 5:27 PM MST
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Not big checks, but big busts indeed.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 2, 2008 9:40 AM MST
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Thanks nick! This is my kinda post!!! rec'd
I personally think we could creat some funny havoc in the playoffs this year.
The best defense is a good defense!
And last week's young players. Yes!
by Mike Clark on
Dec 1, 2008 11:09 AM MST
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Oh yea
I cannot wait – throw a wrench into everyone’s precious power rankings and Super Bowl predictions.
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 12:31 PM MST
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weak division?
not for the jets. 0-3 against the afc west. we still need to split the last 4 if s.d. wins out(raiders, chiefs, bucs, and us), so we’re not out of the woods yet, especially with this team. we really need some defensive players back. any injury updates on the 6 or so broncos that went down in this one? were they all really even hurt? looked a little ridiculous to me, anyway. thoughts?
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by davecheffy on
Dec 1, 2008 11:20 AM MST
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The Only Serious Injury...
appears to be Josh Shaw who suffered a “serious” elbow injury. Other than Shaw, everyone returned to the game except for Spencer Larsen, but they are calling that a bruised hip….
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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on
Dec 1, 2008 11:23 AM MST
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Thanks Guru
I had not been able to get any injury information and was worried about Larsen.
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by firstfan on
Dec 1, 2008 11:52 AM MST
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Yes, thanks
I also was worried about Larsen
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by bradley on
Dec 1, 2008 12:10 PM MST
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I wonder
I wonder if the Broncos where hamming some of those injuries up?
I say no because the players looked to be down before Favre started rushing everyone to the line. But I will say that my blood pressure started to rise a bit as the Jet fans started boo’ing.
However, I do see their point of view it seemed like everytime the Jets did something great and Favre rushed them to the line we faked an injury to stop the momentum.
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 12:33 PM MST
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Not at all Nick.
To the Jets fans it may have looked like we were faking injuries when Favre wanted to hurry up plays, but it doesn’t make too much sense to me. Playing with the lead, I’d rather keep the clock moving and not have the fake injuries. Our defense is small enough to not get worn down by no huddle, and I’d rather the Jets put the ball in the air (which is what they would be doing in hurry up) because of the weather and the turnover risk.
I think Shanahan and crew didn’t want the injuries even more than Favre supposedly didn’t want them. Just my opinion.
Also, an injury takes the player out for a few plays I believe (according to the rules?). I think the time for a fake injury, if it is going to be done, is near the end of a close game, not throughout the second half.
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by hoosierteacher on
Dec 1, 2008 12:58 PM MST
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I agree
And I think the rules state that the player must come out for only 1 play.
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 1:22 PM MST
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Not really faking...
I read in one of the articles in Horse Tracks that Bly mentioned maybe sitting down a little more than usual due to an injury that had it not been Favre he would have played through. He said something like he knew that Favre would go after anyone he saw as being slowed, so Bly just decided that when he hurt his shin, he would just stay down so that Favre wouldn’t go after him when he wasn’t at full speed.
So, it wasn’t really faking an injury, just making it more than it really was. Borderline, if you ask me.
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by DesertBroncoFan on
Dec 1, 2008 5:32 PM MST
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It makes no sense to stop the clock.
Especially when leading……the no huddle was not such a big deal. We are a bend not break defense and had been good on the goal line the whole day.
AWESOME post by the way and recommended.
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by boydy2669 on
Dec 1, 2008 2:39 PM MST
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No doubt fake injuries occur by all teams.
It has been happening for years. They have special calls for the players whose turn it is to be helped off the field. They always rotate it so it is not the same player. It usually happens when another team is leading and burning clock in the fourth quarter, but sometimes it happens to stop a team in a hurry up offense. All teams do it, but it rarely happens for a number of plays in a row.
But the main thing is you never know for sure when the injury is for real or exaggerated to stop clock, and to presume you know, or to accuse a particular player’s incident as being fake is completely impossible because their are so many real injuries. Like BM said, the fans booing and presuming that every incident was a fake is an insult and disrespectful, and can actually fire that team up even more.
So even though it happens, the point is, debating when or who is moot. You just can’t say.
by The Gun Young on
Dec 1, 2008 5:04 PM MST
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Bring on the playoffs!
Our guys have really played up (or down) to their opponents this season, letting some ‘easy’ ones get away (Raiders, KC) and really showing up for some tough games (NYJ, Atlanta, TB, NO, even Cleveland). I think that plays to our advantage in the playoffs: we won’t be facing those 1 or 2 win teams!
I don’t honestly think we’re a Super Bowl caliber team this year, but I am very excited about the long term prospects of this team. Still, it’s not too late to get ‘consistent’ and it’s definitely better to peak at the end of the season than the beginning.
by etlund on
Dec 1, 2008 11:39 AM MST
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Good Point
Experience is one of the most valuable things to our team right now and in a morbid way you can look at all the injuries as a blessing. We have now found depth, if not starters, and given them valuable playing time.
The best part of it is that we are still winning by doing it!
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 12:34 PM MST
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That is probably what I am impressed with the most so far this season.
When guys get injured their replacements need to step up and boy are they.
I mean if it weren’t for the injuries at RB, we wouldn’t have realized what Hillis can do when we give him the ball.
Nice post nick. Believe me, I have already yelled my “YAAAA”
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by weazel on
Dec 1, 2008 7:33 PM MST
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thanks, guru
we should be getting some reinforcements back in the next week or 2. champ and d.j. would be huge down the stretch, but do you put nate back in if larsen can’t go, and what to do with woodyard? the lb’s have been defending the run(tackling) pretty well. i’m worried about the overpursuit/arm-tackle thing, again. and hats off to wiegmann, who had one of the longest days in memory trying to handle jenkins, often one-on-one. valiant effort and job by the o-line as a whole, and can you see the run-blocking opening up some holes, now? a great sign for the playoff run, whoever is running it.
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by davecheffy on
Dec 1, 2008 11:40 AM MST
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If the playoffs started today we would
be playing Indy at home in the wild card weekend game
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by TommyTSlice on
Dec 1, 2008 11:48 AM MST
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Eh
As I have been doing (wet blanketing) all season, and will continue to do now, the Broncos are not yet great. They are far, far too inconsistent. Good teams beat the Browns, Falcons, and Jets on the road, check… BUT the Browns are awful this year, and the Falcons and the Jets were awful last year. Nonetheless, the latter two are tough teams this year so that’s what counts. Check. Good teams do not, however, lose to the raiders and Chefs, no matter where said games occur, or sleepwalk through games they are supposed to win. There is a noticeable unevenness of intensity, and the players themselves were saying things to the effect that the us-vs.them mentality is more obvious on the road and they don’t get as fired up at home. Well, they damn well SHOULD! Make them sleep outside all night if they’re getting too comfortable. You lads have 60,000 screaming blue and orange fanatics at your back that did NOT come and pay good money to see you lay an egg against the raiders. FYI.
What we are is a young team with a lot of talent, but still some pretty noticeable holes, that has the chance to be great with a major revision of defensive schemes and players, along with some growing maturity on the part of the young offensive playmakers. With 4 games to go against the Chefs, Panthers, Bills, and Whinyass Phyllisites, I’ll say we win 2 (KC, Bills) and lose 2 (Panthers and SD). That’s my conservative estimate, but hey, what with SD’s total awfulness and our sudden knack for road games, it could easily be bumped up to 3-1, as we’re just too damn streaky for me to pick us to win out. That leaves us at 9-7 or 10-6 and with a playoff spot, which is of course far preferable to 7-9 and watching from home. And once you get into the playoffs, anything can happen: my personal thought being we’ll either get steamrolled like Kris Jenkins going after a plate of creampuffs, or we’ll pull something out of the you-know-where.
And yes, I am procrastinating really, really hard on finishing this psych essay. What made you guess?
Blast and botheration.
by Silverblood on
Dec 1, 2008 12:00 PM MST
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Good Luck!
I just had to finish an Algebra test and Geology presentation…
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 12:25 PM MST
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I finished two essays! Glory
And somehow I managed to zap this post when I clicked reply to something else, so I have to type it again… argh… But hey, I’m done with the work for first term, hooray!
Anyway, my further thoughts on your thoughts: I wasn’t critiquing your breakdown/analysis so much as I was critiquing the team itself, which, as you point out, has the potential for unreal production on offense but which, I feel, is still a year or two away from being a consistently elite unit. We also need to substantially upgrade on D, so we don’t have to count on winning shootouts and the occasional game where we hold to 20 points instead of 30. Once that happens, you’re right, the good times have a chance to roll unopposed. While the raiders and Chefs will always be horrible (and we’ll probably continue to manage to mix in turkeys against them) I do think the Chargers have underachieved this year (not that I’m complaining!) and will be our chief competition in years to come.
But I still stand by my original contention that this team is a few seasons off on true greatness. As goes Cutler, so goes the team — which means that they’re still both in the nascent stages, showing us tantalizing glimpses, but, rather like me when I am attempting to put off one of my weekly essays, have to just pull their crap together and do the damn thing all at once, not in bits and pieces.
Blast and botheration.
by Silverblood on
Dec 1, 2008 2:10 PM MST
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10-6
Just what I picked us at the beginning of the year!
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
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by DesertBroncoFan on
Dec 1, 2008 5:37 PM MST
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Putting it together
I’m very excited about where we are heading long-term. In the short-term I’m feeling optimistic. We’ll see what happens the next 4 weeks, but this team has the opportunity to do something THIS YEAR. “Can they capitalize?” is the question.
If nothing else, this team is going to get some very very valuable experience out of this season. They get to see the playoffs. I know it isn’t in stone yet, but I really don’t think they are going to lay an egg in their remaining games and let Phylis and the merry-men into the playoffs.
I’m probably most excited about Hillis as I’ve said in another post. If he stays healthy he makes our offense Twice as potent as any game without him. He is bruising and demands respect. (Again if there is anyone seeing bad stuff from Hillis please share…he looks too good to be true) This type of running game changes everything: how the defenses play, how much rest our defense gets, etc etc. If we win out and go deep in the playoffs I predict it will be because of Hillis’s consistency.
That being said I think Denver is a very very dangerous team and I don’t even think Indy wants to play Denver in the playoffs. We’ve shown that we CAN have a solid game plan and if we don’t shoot ourselves in the foot we can beat anyone by keeping our foot on their throats.
I’m looking forward to what Shanny does with the defense this off-season too. Shore that D up and we will be among the cream of the crop in the AFC.
by sadaraine on
Dec 1, 2008 12:08 PM MST
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Hillis...
….died and went to heaven. He was a running back in HS and his first year at Arkansas. Then McFadden and Jones arrived and he had to play anywhere but RB. Now he’s in RB heaven, and will be great here. And it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
Without heroes, we are all plain people and don’t know how far we can go. Bernard Malamud
by bradley on
Dec 1, 2008 12:19 PM MST
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Great post nick! Much appreciated and rec'd.
My excitement with this team is not so much how they played yesterday but the way they played. I think we can all agree that this is not the most talented team Denver has ever fielded. As Silverblood points out above, we have several gaps to fill before we become a Superbowl type team. But this team played with intensity and a will to win that made me proud to be a Bronco fan again. We played hard-nosed football and with a very few exceptions we had none of the posing or posturing after plays. The "look at me" attitude seems to have been buried in an avalanche of team-first mentality.
It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08
by firstfan on
Dec 1, 2008 12:21 PM MST
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I concur
Something is to be said about drafting a team versus FA – you end up with a bunch of players that have something to prove to everyone. Consider the starters / contributors that we drafted just this year alone and it’s frightening. What are we going to do with all of next year’s picks?
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Dec 1, 2008 12:27 PM MST
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Next draft
What are we going to do with all of next year’s picks?
Do the same as we did this year. Draft smart and hope that the sheer numbers yield some late round surprises. I like the way we’re stockpiling picks. It gives us lots of ways to go.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on
Dec 3, 2008 1:19 AM MST
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I love having leverage in the draft
There is no better area of building a football team where strategically establishing leverage will allow you to exponentially multiply gains. Lots of picks can yield lots of players or few players, but both scenarios tend to represent LOTS of value gained.
I think this is the fundamental difference between the draft and free agency. They are both valid means of bringing players into a roster, but the draft is on the front end of leverage and free agency is on the back end, and the less leverage you have the fewer options you have at points B and C etc. after you have made your moves.
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It takes patience
because you have to wait for guys to mature, but you get so much more bang for the buck in the draft, especially if you draft as well as we have these last three years. And not getting in a bidding war for the best at their position free agents leaves us more cap room to re-sign our own budding stars. Plumping for solid players rather than superstars to fill specific holes or add depth, as we did this year, is the smart way to use free agency. The guys who don’t work
out won’t cost us our shirt.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on
Dec 3, 2008 1:43 PM MST
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Exactly
The salary cap problem in a couple years will be huge, with Cutler, Scheffler, Marshall etc. coming to the end of their contracts. And a year later, Marcus Thomas, and then Clady, Royal, Hillis, Larsen…
Please, let’s don’t spend big money on a Haynesworth or Peppers, or the like. Now, if we can find another Casey Wiegmann……….
Without heroes, we are all plain people and don’t know how far we can go. Bernard Malamud
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Dec 3, 2008 2:36 PM MST
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It may turn out that we have a K-Lich
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on
Dec 4, 2008 4:04 PM MST
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I agree with you firstfan.
We saw some old school Bronco football yesterday. We didn’t always see that early in the season but it grew slowly. Now let’s see if they can keep it up.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on
Dec 1, 2008 12:49 PM MST
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I wish I could have seen it!
I got home last night and flicked on the new DVR (after my previous one died) and it recorded the DirecTV logo and played muzak for 4 hours when it should have been recording the game!
I flipped to NFLN and saw on the crawler that we were 7-5 and knew we won, but didn’t get to see more than a minute of highlights in their Game Day Final.
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
- Bronco Dano
by DesertBroncoFan on
Dec 1, 2008 5:42 PM MST
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I feel for you, buddy.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
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Dec 2, 2008 2:12 PM MST
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My thoughts on your thoughts Nick.
I think that our team, playing at its best, is probably in the top three or four teams in the League. The inconsistency we have (ie, losing to terrible teams) is what keeps us from being ranked that high. We are one of the best in the League, but don’t play like it every week.
I think we will make the playoffs with the fourth or third seed. I think we have a 50/50 shot of clearing the wildcard round at that point. Beyond that, we will have a tough struggle. Next year, I think we will improve much, but not all, of the defense, and add some depth to the offense. Next year, I think we are a borderline SB team, and in two years I will be surprised if we don’t start dominating.
I LOVE Hillis. He is the powerback I’ve been clamoring for. He doesn’t need to get long runs (he can get pulled down from behind as he was in the Jets game). He just needs to plow forward for those five yard, bruising gains. I know fans love the flashy speed game, but take it from a defensive coordinator, elite power runners scare defenses more than speed guys.
His runs were one cut, and he runs downhill. Only a solid tackle will bring him down, and nothing less. Pair him with any other RB (speed or power) in our system, and the defense is going to be hurting by the fourth quarter, and we will be able to protect leads better.
Great stuff Nick!
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Dec 1, 2008 1:09 PM MST
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Thanks
I agree I am very happy with Hillis. You’re right he doesn’t have that break away ability but he does have the ability to turn 2 yards into 8, or 5 yards into 19 (which he did 4 times I think).
I do not think that our offense needs a break away kind of guy running the ball because we have that in our passing attack; every throw that Cutler makes has the potential to go 30, 40, even 91 yards as we saw against Cleveland.
What we have needed in a running game is someone to punch it in when we get within the 10. What we have needed is someone to put us in 2nd and 3rd down with 2 yards to go. What we have needed is someone to keep the defense honest and quit playing deep safeties and full pass. Hillis seems to be our magic pill and I will be watching for his success to match the team’s success.
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 1:27 PM MST
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Running attack
What comes to mind to me with Hillis and Torain is Pittsburgh with the Bus and Parker…a 1-2 combo that hits hard and keeps you on your heels. If Torain can stay healthy I think he would be the Parker to Hillis’s “bus”. :)
BTW: What was up with the announcer in the game all day pointing out how many DBs were in the game? It is interesting to note, but why not say “nickel” or “dime” packages? Besides educated football fans, what average shmoe would care? I don’t think I was bugged so much by it, but thought it was odd to keep hearing about it all game…
by sadaraine on
Dec 1, 2008 1:59 PM MST
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It's interesting...
…to hear everyone’s impression on Hillis. I do not have him pegged as the Bus type of player but more of a Mike Anderson type of player. He is quick, plays low, does not give up on runs, and is hard to bring down.
However, while having players like the Bus or Jacobs is a nice luxury, I’m more than happy with Hillis – neither of them can catch worth a darn and neither of them played with great laser arm quarterbacks. Hillis with Jay Cutler is a much better fit than Jerome or Brandon with Cutler.
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 7:09 PM MST
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He has the Bus's power but is faster and more agile
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on
Dec 3, 2008 1:58 AM MST
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I agree we can be one of the best teams,
when we are playing our best. I have felt this excitement and optimism since week three. And even though I also increased my expectations after 3-0, I knew there would still be growing pains.
Inconsistency and playing down to one’s competition happens with young teams. So lets not forget this is the youngest team Shanny has ever had, and one of the youngest in the league. The Broncos are going to end up with a 10-6 record, which is where I originally had them forecasted. The surprise to me was that they would win the AFC West with a 10-6 record.
I also agree with HT about Hillis. They need the consistent tough yards, which he gives them. Once Selvin comes back they will have a change of pace speed back who is a deep threat, who can give Hillis rest and run outside or screens and draws.
by The Gun Young on
Dec 1, 2008 5:12 PM MST
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I'm with you on Hillis HT...........
He gives us a demension we haven’t had since TD and Mike Anderson. The one thing I absolutely love about hillis is the same thing I loved about TD and Mike, he very seldom loses yardage, that is something we haven’t had for awhile. It’s awesome to see that again from a Denver back.
The player who thinks he can and the player who knows he can are two different players, which one are you???
by Broncofan on
Dec 1, 2008 8:10 PM MST
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I love Hillis, too
He almost never gets stuffed, which means we don’t have as many third and longs. Even when there’s no clear running lane he knocks people back and gains three yards. He’s our best short-yardage option but he’s also an every-down back. I think he has surprising agility for a 250 pounder, and his hands are a bonus. He’s going to give defensive coordinators fits. Right now I see him as our number one back going forward. (I think he was number three at Arkansas because he was the only one who could play fullback
and because their system didn’t suit his abilities as well as ours does.) He’s reliable at getting plus yardage and doesn’t seem injury prone. He looks good for 15 to 20 carries a game. He could probably do more, but why wear him down when we (will) have so many good running back options? I agree that we’re going to be in a great position to protect leads by wearing down defenses with a power running attack.
It looks to me like Shanahan’s creating the kind of team we had during our glory years (only this time via the draft): a dominant run game, a potent play-action passing attack, an opportunistic defense, and the ability to close out games with ball control.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on
Dec 3, 2008 1:56 AM MST
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Great Post
I am excited to get to go to the game this weekend against the Chiefs. It will be nice to clinch the division this weekend.
by gizmo213 on
Dec 1, 2008 1:16 PM MST
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Definately excited
Two positions jump out at me on the offense thanks to your breakdown.
1. Stokely-he may have 2 to 3 prime years left. Who will be his replacement. Chad Jackson? He sure looked faster than anyone else on the one play he touched the ball yesterday. Is he consistent enough to be the slot receiver? Personally, I think Eddie Royal would make a perfect slot receiver (quick in and out of routes, great hands), but if you move him to the slot, who do you put out wide to replace him?
2. Casey Wiegman/Tom Nalen-center defiantely needs attention quickly. Is Lichtensteiger ready to play next year? Will he be the starting center or will Hamilton shift into the position. Regardless, I think some offensive line depth is needed.
With this being said, I still believe defense should be top priority. As it stands today, and things will change, I would draft with the following philosophy:
1. DT
2. RB or Safety
3. RB or Safety
4. MLB
4. SLB
5. OL
6. CB
Touchdowns win championships?
Hillis for starter. He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on
Dec 1, 2008 1:28 PM MST
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I agree...
…DT needs to be the next top pick. Although I would like to see a MLB taken in the second round or some late picks packaged together into another first round pick (if possible) for the MLB.
While Safety is important, I think that we can scheme ourselves into a good defense with a good DT and MLB and wait for a first round safety – maybe in 2010.
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by nickt84 on
Dec 1, 2008 7:12 PM MST
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I think Wiegmann
has at least one more good year in him, after which we could move to a more seasoned Lichtensteiger. If Wiegmann falters and K-Lich isn’t ready Hamilton could slide over as the interim center. Whatever the details I’m confident we’ll have an even better line next year. Is there any head coach in the business as good as Shanahan at building an offensive line? What he’s done the last few years is simply amazing. This line is going to be dominant for years to come.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on
Dec 3, 2008 2:09 AM MST
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I'll buy into this.
It’s certainly time for the Broncos to get back to performing the Kesselschlacht.
"Never Surrender Dreams" - Inscription on J. Michael Straczynski's bench
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by Russ on
Dec 1, 2008 1:31 PM MST
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/jokes that no one but Russ gets
Blast and botheration.
by Silverblood on
Dec 1, 2008 2:01 PM MST
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But that's not a joke
Our German friends should get it.
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by Russ on
Dec 1, 2008 2:02 PM MST
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Well, I got it
but I’m not sure what that says about me.
Blast and botheration.
by Silverblood on
Dec 1, 2008 2:05 PM MST
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Well, I could
have also gone on the need for a Schwerpunkt, but we all know what that is for the Broncos.
[goes back to reading Clausewitz]
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by Russ on
Dec 1, 2008 2:13 PM MST
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You mean the Schwerpunkt, Jay Clausewitz?
Makes sense on several levels, since he grew up in Santa Claus, Indiana, after all.
/will stop hijacking thread now
Blast and botheration.
by Silverblood on
Dec 1, 2008 2:15 PM MST
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The encirclement?
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
by spock on
Dec 3, 2008 2:11 AM MST
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I couldn't agree more HT I love Hillis!
I never understood why people love break away runners any ways. I love a guy who keeps banging it up the middle. He does so much more for your team. Hillis just wore that D out yesterday. I love watching a guy carrying three guys on his back to get a 4yd gain.
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Dec 1, 2008 2:22 PM MST
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break away runners?
Let’s think about John Riggins; Jerome Bettis; Mike Alstott; when we think about Hillis. And I think Hillis is faster than any of them.
Without heroes, we are all plain people and don’t know how far we can go. Bernard Malamud
by bradley on
Dec 1, 2008 2:30 PM MST
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Hillis is the man.
See sig for more info.
Touchdowns win championships?
Hillis for starter. He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on
Dec 2, 2008 11:06 AM MST
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Hillis had slightly better 40 times than TD.....
and TD was WAY quick enough.
Check out some of the Hillis footage on you tube. He takes one to the house from 70 yards out with no one gaining on him….he s plenty fast ebough at 250 lbs!!!!
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by boydy2669 on
Dec 1, 2008 3:41 PM MST
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I guess what I ment to say was I perfer to see a guy pound it up the middle all game.
I’d rather have a Hillis than a Portis. I hope he doesn’t get switched back to a FB next year.
by ThorpeBroncosfan on
Dec 1, 2008 3:57 PM MST
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Let's not book our flights to Tampa just yet.
I am and have been optimistic about Denver all year, even after the blowouts.
Denver has lots of potential and most of the raw pieces are in place on offense. They have (I believe) nine draft picks stocked up so far for next year and I suspect they will continue addressing the defensive side of the ball. One (possibly two) more quality drafts and this will be a truly dominant team.
But right now, our offense needs to play together a bit more and the adversity they’ve faced (and largely overcome) this year will serve them well in that regard.
As for the defense, there appear to really be some rising stars on that unit. I don’t know how many of them are going to be breakout players (and a fair number of them aren’t going to be here next year) but I like the way they’ve all stepped up, played hard and refused to quit on each other.
The seeds are being planted and I think that within a year or two this team will be ready to seriously compete. As for this year, I am hoping at least for a return to the playoffs – got to take a step forward.
Will they win a playoff game? Or two? Eh….let’s just get there first. LOL
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Dec 1, 2008 4:09 PM MST
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our run blocking has improved a lot the running backs we have on the roster can take care of business next year dont use a pick on a position we have an abundance of good players to fill
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Dec 1, 2008 5:11 PM MST
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RB
You have to love a guy who hitches himself to his pickup to train. Maybe that’s why his hips are so danged strong.
For this reason, I will have a wait and see about RB. it would be nice to feel comfortable with a back like Torain. If his injury bug passes he and Hillis could be the 1-2 punch that we have dreamt of. On the other hand, Aldrige may get healthy, etc. We will probably pick up an RB in the later rounds of the draft – we usually do. As solid as we are at TE, I think we could look at 1 more. Never hurts to look down the road – and that slot receiver type migh be helpful since Stokely will get older. The rest of the draft we all know – DT, Saf, Saf, LB, CB…
After last year I look at the draft like christmas – ech round we get to sit back and see what Santa Goodman is bringing us…
He doesn’t know anything but 100 percent
- Shanahan on Larsen
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Dec 1, 2008 5:11 PM MST
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Does he pull the pickup??
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
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Yes, he does - or did, when he lived at home
He doesn’t know anything but 100 percent
- Shanahan on Larsen
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Dec 3, 2008 1:06 PM MST
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these next few weeks should clear up the draft situation a lot we could trade some picks and get some real beasts for the defensive line, maybe a project to back up cutler the possibiltys are mind boggling
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Dec 1, 2008 5:22 PM MST
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Royal setting Broncos rookie records
With Royal’s performance Sunday:
Single season receiving TDs: 5
Receiving yards: 797
Receptions: 63
And with 4 games to go these will all change. Nice job Eddie “Casino” Royal.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 6
by weazel on
Dec 1, 2008 11:57 PM MST
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Just watched the clips from Sunday
on NFLN Game Day Final and even Eisen called him “Royale with Cheese”! I think that’s the name that’s going to stick!
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"I love your analysis of our team. Its kinda like watching a spider monkey trying to figure out a jar of peanuts.. you know whats going on.. you know whats in there, but to actually figure it out, is just a bit beyond your mental skills..."
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by DesertBroncoFan on
Dec 2, 2008 8:21 AM MST
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I hope not
What does cheese have to do with any description of Eddie Royal? I can see “Casino” Royal (money player) and especially “FAST EDDIE” for obvious reasons.
But “cheese”? Sounds slow and gooey. Yuk.
Anyway, this is an exciting time for the Broncos. Thanks for a good article, Nick. :)
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
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Dec 2, 2008 9:37 AM MST
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Your welcome
I think “Royale with cheese” is European-speak for a Big-Mac.
There is no 'Ctrl' button on Chuck Norris's computer. Chuck Norris is always in control.
Chuck Norris destoryed the periodic table because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
by nickt84 on
Dec 2, 2008 10:35 AM MST
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Pop-Culture reference
Royale with Cheese is in part of the dialog in “Pulp Fiction” (For the record it is what European McDonalds call the Quarter Pounder…they use the metric system over there). Probably one of the best dialog movies out there even if parts of the movie are disturbing to say the least.
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Dec 2, 2008 10:40 AM MST
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That's right, the metric system!
Look at the big head on sadarine!
;)
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Dec 2, 2008 1:57 PM MST
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Oh, I know the legend . . .
Still sucks. :)
But it’s not really that important in the general picture. What I really want to call him is Super Bowl Champion!!
Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy
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I was cracking up when I heard that......classic
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 6
by weazel on
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Test of new sig
test test test test
Random quotes about the raiders:
They really houldn’t play — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
This is an utter disaster — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
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