More Fuel Added To The Fire - No Respect!

by Zappa on Dec 11, 2008 2:36 PM MST Comment 48 comments

Walt over at www.walterfootball.com has thrown down the gauntlet for the Broncos this week. I had been arguing my case for the Broncos with him earlier this week. I warned him not to bet too much money on the Panthers covering their spread...ouch, he is going to be hurting with this pick! By all accounts, the Panthers should win big...but they won't and it appears only us familiar with this years' Bronco team understands why. I almost feel bad for Walt, but I did warn him. lol

The following was linked from http://walterfootball.com/freenflpicks2008_15late.php

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Denver Broncos (8-5) at Carolina Panthers (10-3)
Line: Panthers by 7.5. Total: 47.5.
Walt's Projected Line (Before Week 14): Panthers -6.
Walt's Projected Line (After Week 14): Panthers -7.
Sunday, 4:15 ET - Buy Tickets

The Game. Edge: Panthers.
Injuries: Broncos: OUT: QB Patrick Ramsey (IR), RB Peyton Hillis (IR), RB Michael Pittman (IR), RB Andre Hall (IR), TE Nate Jackson (IR), OT Erik Pears, C Tom Nalen (IR), OLB Boss Bailey (IR). Panthers: OUT: LB Dan Connor (IR).

DENVER OFFENSE: The Broncos are one of the more erratic teams in the NFL. How do you explain winning at Atlanta, losing at home to the Raiders, clobbering the Jets on the road and then barely beating Kansas City in successive weeks? It really doesn't make much sense.

Or does it? Here's how I see it: Denver can beat anyone because of its terrific offense. But the team can also lose to anyone because of its abysmal defense.

The Broncos should be able to light up the scoreboard in Carolina. If you watched the Monday night game, you saw that Jeff Garcia was able to go deep on the Panthers a few times. Garcia going deep...? That hasn't happened in years!

Cutler should be able to dissect Carolina's secondary, which will open up some lanes for whomever the running back is. The Broncos should seriously do what the NCAA Football video game does and call their backs "RB #34" or whatever. They keep going down with injuries, so I think it would be cheaper to have a few set jersey numbers available for these guys.

CAROLINA OFFENSE: Getting back to Denver's problem, the Panthers will steamroll the Broncos. Getting Jeff Otah in the draft basically gave Carolina two upgrades up front because it allowed Travelle Wharton to move inside, where he has simply been dominant this year.

If the Panthers were able to rush for 301 yards against the Buccaneers, imagine what they'll do against Denver's 30th-ranked rush defense. DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart could both eclipse the century mark again, setting up easy throws for the inconsistent Jake Delhomme.

Carolina's ability to cover could depend on whether or not Delhomme makes crucial errors. Given that he'll have plenty of time in the pocket (Denver has 23 sacks this year), I can't imagine him having a terrible game.

RECAP: As mentioned below, I'm not sure how much this game means to Denver. All they need is one win or a San Diego loss in these last three weeks to clinch the AFC West. There's actually a good chance that could happen by kickoff (I have the Chiefs beating the Chargers.) Carolina, meanwhile, is chasing homefield advantage.

I like the Panthers' energy coming off a big Monday night victory. Teams coming off Monday night blowouts tend to play pretty well the following week (check out the section of the site if you don't believe me.) On the other hand, I don't like Denver's energy level right now. They could still be flat off their huge upset victory at the Meadowlands two weeks ago. These things tend to linger. Just ask the Jets and Redskins.

The Psychology. Edge: Panthers.
The Broncos barely have anything to play for. In the next three weeks, they either need one win OR one loss by San Diego to clinch the AFC West. There's no desperation here. Plus, Denver could still be a bit flat from putting so much energy into that Jets victory. Carolina, meanwhile, will build off the momentum it established with a blowout win on Monday night. Remember, the Panthers have a lot to play for because they'll capture homefield advantage if they win out.

The Vegas. Edge: Broncos.
I thought more people would be on the Carolina bandwagon. Apparently not.

Percentage of money on Carolina: 62% (14,000 bets)

The Trends. Edge: Panthers.

Monday Might: John Fox is 3-1 ATS after playing on Monday night.

Broncos are 6-13 ATS vs. the NFC since 2003.

Panthers are 12-21 ATS as a home favorite of 3.5 or more since 2001.

Panthers are 19-26 ATS at home since 2003.

Jake Delhomme is 12-19 ATS as a home favorite.

Jake Delhomme is 18-10 ATS off back-to-back wins.

Opening Line: Panthers -7.5.

Opening Total: 47.5.

Weather: Cloudy, 45 degrees. Light wind.

Week 15 NFL Pick: Panthers 41, Broncos 27
Panthers -7.5 (4 Units)
Over 47.5 (1 Unit)

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As you can see, I was right about the rest of the world slobbering all over the Panthers this week. The stats really do belie reality in this situation. It's not always the case, but people outside of Broncoland just don't understand this Bronco team. On paper they "have nothing to play for", but in reality the Bronco players have everything to play for. The Bronco players have publically stated they feel slighted by the media and what better way to prove yourself than against the Falcons...or Jets...or Panthers? Our team is a young football team, which goes a long way to explain flat performances against lesser teams. They get cocky and go out expecting win without playing very hard against teams like the Raiders or Chiefs.

However, they have proven time and again that when they face a team they are expected to lose too this Broncos team comes out and smashes people in the mouth. I think Walt is dead wrong in his analysis, but his analysis is in line with the rest of the nation right now as it was when the Broncos went into New Jersey and when they went into Atlanta in recent weeks. As I said earlier, I almost feel sorry for Walt betting 4 units on the 7.5 point spread.

I would like to point out also that I like Walt. I think he is a smart dude and I respect his opinion. I just think he got this game all wrong. ;-)

Besides, we have OWNED the 4th quarter in recent weeks:

WEEK 10
Match Up	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	Final
Denver Broncos	7	3	3	21	34
Cleveland Browns	7	13	3	7	30
WEEK 11
Match Up	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	Final
Denver Broncos	7	0	7	10	24
Atlanta Falcons	3	10	0	7	20
WEEK 13
Match Up	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	Final
Denver Broncos	17	10	0	7	34
New York Jets	7	7	3	0	17
WEEK 14
Match Up	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	Final
Kansas City Chiefs	10	7	0	0	17
Denver Broncos	7	7	3	7	24

I'll even go a step further and say the Broncos have owned the SECOND HALF in recent weeks. Offensively and Defensively. In their four wins, the Broncos have outscored their opponents 58-30 in the second half and 45-14 in the fourth quarter. The Panthers are not head and shoulders above all of these teams listed, in fact, they recently lost IN Atlanta 45-28. The Panthers better beware come Sunday!

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Walt sounds like a smart guy.

I found myself nodding throughout the article! I even came to the same conclusion. The difference is, I’ll be hopping around on my coach (like that freak Tom Cruise on Oprah Winfrey) if Denver wins, and crying in my beer if I’m right.

: )

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 11, 2008 3:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I think Walt is out thinking himself....

Denver is not

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, LT will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Zappa on Dec 11, 2008 3:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

what the....stupid ...anyways.....

I think Walt is out thinking himself, Denver is not WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE. The we is anyone who doesn’t follow the Broncos. :P

by Zappa on Dec 11, 2008 3:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

I knew what you meant.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 11, 2008 3:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Where Walt errs

in my opinion, is assuming that, since they gained 301 yards against a really good run defense, and since the Broncos have a really bad run defense, the sky’s the limit. That kind of logic is no better than saying that Atlanta blew out Carolina, we beat Atlanta on the road, therefore the Broncos are head and shoulders above the Panthers. The fact is, Carolina didn’t have a big day on the ground in the first Tampa Bay game, and the one in which they did was a get-even game after having been blown out before. If the Broncos had played them right after that blow-out loss the experts would have been talking about how the weak Panthers offense and the suspect Denver defense would cancel out, with the dominating Denver offense against the suspect Carolina being the deciding factor. The experts take outliers, games in which teams depart to an extreme degree from their norm, too seriously. The Panthers’ ground game is not that good, and Denver’s run defense has been consistently better in recent weeks than their full-season stats suggest. The fact is, catching a team right after they’ve played way above their norm is an advantage, and it’s not necessarily to Denver’s disadvantage that they beat the Chiefs. They did fall off from their previous week’s performance, succeeding mainly in not falling off as much as they had after previous successes, and not playing down to a bad team as much as they had earlier. I think it’s reasonable to suppose that Denver will play better than they did last week, and Carolina will play worse. I don’t know if it’ll result in a victory—Carolina is a good team—but I think Denver will be a lot more competitive that the east coast media expect.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Dec 11, 2008 3:39 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

+1

You just expressed my beliefs in a way I wish I had when I was debating with Walt via email. He bet 4 units on the Panthers covering a 7.5 point spread. Yikes!

Great comment spock…thank you!!!

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Zappa on Dec 11, 2008 3:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed!

by Steve O' on Dec 11, 2008 5:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+ 3

by metalman5050 on Dec 11, 2008 5:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Spock

I take the CAR running game pretty seriously, even aside from the TB win. Both RBs are at or above 5ypc, and hae some nice stats behind that. Here’s a terrific article from The Gaston Gazette (I know, “sports writers”. But the article is accurate in my view. The whole thing is worth a read).

The Panthers have already scored more rushing touchdowns (23) than in any previous season, the previous high being 17. And, they’ve already run for 1,900 yards on the season and are on pace to shatter the franchise rushing record of 2,091 set in 2003….

…In the past six games Williams has run 727 yards and a whopping 11 touchdowns. Stewart is still learning on the fly, but he’s run for 100 yards in his last two home games and on Monday night set a new franchise rookie record with his seventh and eighth touchdown runs.

We all know I’m a Denver fan, and I don’t mean to come across like I’m defending the Panthers or anything. I’m just saying that the Panthers have (in my opinion) a very effective running system, and we have improved on run defense, but our consistency is questionable. CAR’s record is also worthy.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 11, 2008 6:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, forgot the link.

Here it is.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 11, 2008 6:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That's a great read, HT; thanks for the link

I don’t underestimate the Carolina running game. They’re as good as you say they are. At the same time, I think the biggest variable in any given game is not talent, not home
field advantage, but which team is more psychologically ready to play. Remember the huge disparity in last year’s two Jaguars-Titans games? Or the same disparity, for that matter, in the two Panthers-Bucs games. If the Panthers and the Broncos both play their best I think the Broncos would lose, even on a neutral field. This year they’re a better team than we are, and that running game is a big part of the reason. Yet, without even looking at the stats I will confidently state that they’re not averaging 300 yards per game, and the fact that they gained that much last week against a premier run defense has, in my opinion, less to do with them being that much better than with them being that much more ready to play. And that, in turn, had a lot to do with the outcome of the first game they played. I was anxious about the KC game because we were coming off a big win, but not as anxious as I would have been had we won rather than lost the first game.

In thinking about outcomes I put a premium on psychological state. By definition, we can’t always be more intense than our average emotional intensity. During any given game we’ll tend to be either more or less intense than that average, with a tendency from week to week to swing from one extreme to the other. With a young team the swing will be more extreme but I assume even veteran teams exhibit it to some extent, with the immediately preceding game and the most recent game that year against the upcoming team, if we play them more than once, being the two biggest determinants. While Carolina is good enough, especially being at home, that even Denver at its best is no sure thing, I do strongly suspect that the psychological element favors us. The KC win was not totally an “up” week for us while Carolina is definitely coming down off a super “high”. If you’re higher than your opponent their strengths are minimized (not eliminated) and their weaknesses magnified, while your own strengths are magnified and your weaknesses minimized. In addition our run defense is better now that is was earlier in the season, so our run defense (prior to adjustment for psychological factors) is better than our stats suggest. For these reasons I think the Broncos have a better chance than the oddsmakers are giving them, which is not to say that a victory over a top team, even if we “want” it a little more, is a sure thing.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Dec 11, 2008 7:19 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs

+1

by Zappa on Dec 11, 2008 7:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Carolina's psychological state

Combine the big win (on MNF) with the news that their game at the Giants next week has been moved to prime time (SNF) and the fact that the Broncos are AFC, it will be a tremendous accomplishment if the Panthers can keep it up for this next game. My hat will be off to them if they can do it. I’m betting they can’t.

When the Gods are angry with someone, they give him what he asks for.

Greek Proverb

by bradley on Dec 11, 2008 8:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome

for both this comment and your comment above.

The saying is that professional sports bettors are 75% psychologist and only 25% statisticians. If that.

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by styg50 on Dec 12, 2008 1:14 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

it seems to me that, at least with NYJ and KC, our success against the run had more to do with them abandoning the run (prematurely) than with the great defense we played. Granted our front 7 played better than earlier in the year, but both KC and NY gave up on their running game.

by SlowWhiteGuy on Dec 11, 2008 7:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That was going to be my comment

Walt’s artcle was very close to your Chalk Talk—not nearly as detailed—but same conclusion.

The best defense is a good defense!
And last week's young players. Yes!

by Mike Clark on Dec 11, 2008 4:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

The nice thing about being me is I know Denver will win.

The best defense is a good defense!
And last week's young players. Yes!

by Mike Clark on Dec 11, 2008 4:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Therefore--Zappa is right.

The best defense is a good defense!
And last week's young players. Yes!

by Mike Clark on Dec 11, 2008 4:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I am always right....

except when I am wrong.

by Zappa on Dec 11, 2008 4:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

The best defense is a good defense!
And last week's young players. Yes!

by Mike Clark on Dec 11, 2008 4:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Sunday night, I would love...

…for HT to post a clip of himself jumping on his couch yelling “I love this team! They’re magnificent!”
;-)

"Let's get this thing fired up" - 'Deuce' Shanahan

by Colorado_Kitten on Dec 12, 2008 9:25 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Very nice!

BTW, I noticed your avatar is of Betty Page, she who went to meet her Maker today. She was an icon of Americana and the pin-up age (and a few sultry daliences). As a red blooded American male, I’m saddened by her passing.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Dec 12, 2008 3:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

The difference is

sports writers in general get a feel for a team and write along that theme until the theme changes. Right now mainstream media is calling Denver erratic, inconsistant, yadda yadda yadda….and that is all they know.

They don’t have their finger on the pulse of the Broncos like we do here at MHR. One thing I find consistant is that the fans here are a good measure of our team. When MHR is full of “what do we do” post’s the Broncos are usually in flux and may drop one or two dumb ones.

When we as Bronco diehards start feeling confident it’s because it is warranted and the Broncos are giving us that confidence.

We know our team, we know what they do well, what they do poorly, we know our tough matchups and we know what teams we can beat.

Right now, there isn’t an NFL team that I’m afraid of and that’s because we are good!! We all know in our hearts are so much better off right now, the future looks sweet as hell and each week we are getting better.

The recent rankings in all the major outlets really tick me off, Denver is going to show the country Orange and Blue by making the Panthers black and blue!

by Steve O' on Dec 11, 2008 4:58 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I love that attitude man! GOOOOOOOOO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by metalman5050 on Dec 11, 2008 5:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I gotta say...

I’m getting VERY stoked for this game.

We can clinch a homefield playoff game and send a definitive warning to anyone thinking the Broncos might be a preferable playoff game.

GO BRONCOS!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 11, 2008 6:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Good luck Waalt!!

Look, sayong that Denver will be flat is an insane call!
They are going to bring fire and brimstone.
I will atke our guys….and even if we lose it will be close. Denver wants to end the AFC West battle now….and they will.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 11, 2008 9:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I guess if you make your living predicting sports games...

…then it makes since to pick Carolina.

After all, there is a decent chance that this game will mean absolutely nothing to the Broncos…which we’d all have to admit significantly changes the dynamics of this game. I really don’t think anyone can say definitely that it is better to be a 3 seed than a 4 seed.

It is going to be important to Carolina no matter what. I actually hope it’s important to us too.

GO BRONCOS!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 11, 2008 9:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Your title is totally perfect.

The Broncos barely have anything to play for. In the next three weeks, they either need one win OR one loss by San Diego to clinch the AFC West. There’s no desperation here. Plus, Denver could still be a bit flat from putting so much energy into that Jets victory

As mentioned below, I’m not sure how much this game means to Denver

On the other hand, I don’t like Denver’s energy level right now.

Going by these three lame comments, it seems that we don’t care and are just going to sit on our butt and wait for SD to lose. Are you kidding me? Even if SD loses to KC, this game still means something. Flat after the Jets game? Dude, that game was like two weeks ago.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 7

by weazel on Dec 11, 2008 11:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

There's the rub

Dude, that game was like two weeks ago.

Can he help it if he doesn’t watch us every week? A team like Denver needs to be WATCHED. Inconsistency means that you have contradictory ideas butting heads in a teams identity, which means the stats aren’t going to always line up right, or make sense. If a guy isn’t watching the games, the evaluation is as useless as tits on a bull.

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by styg50 on Dec 12, 2008 1:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+1 for both you guys!

by Zappa on Dec 12, 2008 8:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I just have to reiterate what everyone else just said....

but really? Denver will be flat from our game two weeks ago but Carolina “will build off the momentum it established with a blowout win on Monday night.”?

That’s just plain stupid!

GO BRONCOS!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 12, 2008 12:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

+1 more

by Zappa on Dec 12, 2008 1:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Flat?

Dude, that game was like two weeks ago.

That’s too strange even for the MSM. We played a very good game against an improving KC team who caught a good break and jumped out to an early lead. We fought back from 10 down twice and owned the second half completely. If they said we’d be flat from putting out a great 2nd halp effort it might make some small sense – very small, but some. But, NY?

If someone points out that we’re 4-1 in the past 5 weeks, our D has stepped up a major notch and several new players are making differences, that would be useful. Emotion does help win games, but this is closer to voodoo than to reporting.

Jim Goodman for Broncos MVP!

by broncobear on Dec 12, 2008 2:46 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

My only fear is that whenever us Broncos fans start to get excited about this team they lay a stinking egg......

I just don’t think that will happen this week though. If it happens before the playoffs it will likely be against Buffalo.

by Zappa on Dec 12, 2008 8:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't count on the KC game too much when looking at this week.

You have to keep in mind we had to change our whole game plan as soon as Hillis got injured. I think we did a great job of switching game plans half way through and coming back to win it. If we had Hillis the whole game or another power back I think that game would have looked a lot different (we would have looked more dominate). I think this week we will actually be better off with our running game than we were in the second half of last week and hopefully the passing game won’t have to be convereted in to a running game.

by ThorpeBroncosfan on Dec 12, 2008 7:11 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Besides they have to win this will be my first live NFL game.

by ThorpeBroncosfan on Dec 12, 2008 7:12 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

have fun dude!

by Zappa on Dec 12, 2008 8:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs

When you make that extra effort...

…and spend that extra money to see a game live, it should be a win, especially since it’s your first. Here’s hoping you have the most pleasant experience possible.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Dec 12, 2008 1:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

My first was a win...

I doomed the Falcons! ;-)

To have striven, to have made the effort, to have been true to certain ideals - this alone is worth the struggle. - William Penn

Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."

by Philistine21 on Dec 12, 2008 4:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That's a trend I could get behind.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Dec 12, 2008 5:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

My only two were wins.

31-16 over San Diego in 98 and 41-14 over the faders this year. :)

That be 72-30. saweet!

by Zappa on Dec 12, 2008 8:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

well you could have a chance

to make it 3-0. I am willing to bet there will be plenty of tix available for the 12/28 game here is bandwagons-r-Us

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 13, 2008 1:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That is what I am counting on.

I so need to get tickets for that game.

Oh, and I like to call it Bandwagon USA.

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Dec 13, 2008 10:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm 1-3.

I’ve been to Arrowhead 4 times and seen 3 losses. The only win I saw was the 37-34 comeback in 2004, but technically that doesn’t count, since my mom wanted to leave after halftime. Matter of fact, she made us leave early again in 2005 because it was too cold. So when I stay for the whole game I’m 0 for 2.

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by papigrande on Dec 13, 2008 7:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Based on what I saw in week 4

Have you considered shaving your head for the games?

;)

Concision in style, precision in thought, decision in life.

by styg50 on Dec 13, 2008 10:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

And one more thing who has ever known coach to say well this one doesn't really matter this week.

by ThorpeBroncosfan on Dec 12, 2008 7:15 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

Hey Ted

Graet post man.
I like the information about the 2nd half.
One of my biggest worries that I have had with Brocnos until the last 4 weeks was their inability to put up anything in the 3rd quarter.
We always seem to get the ball first but go and 3 and out. My thoughts are always that if we dont have at least a 10 point buffer at the half then we were up against it.
It is great than in the last few weeks we have been scoring on 3rd quarter drives, which certainly alleviates the pressure on our D.
Great as always and recommended.
THORPE, enjoy that game man and cheer us home my ftriend!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 12, 2008 9:07 AM MST reply actions 0 recs