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Time For The Broncos To Grow Up and Win!

I'm going to say it right now, on the Monday morning after a bad loss.  I want to set the tone for the week, on this web-site at least --

GO CHARGERS!!!

That's right.  I am rooting for the Chargers.  I want San Diego to beat Tampa Bay next week.  I want Jay Cutler and the rest of the young Denver Broncos to play with that pressure of having everything they want right in front of them as long as they win a football game, at home, against a team they should beat.

Some of you won't agree with me, and that's ok.  I have only promised one thing since starting this website in August, 2006 -- MileHighReport will be the positive place on the web for Broncos fans to come and talk everything Orange and Blue -- being in agreement all the time was never part of the deal so I will accept it.  I just want the Broncos to earn their way in, not just earn, but earn, earn their way in. 

First off, should the Chargers lose to the Buccaneers, something that is entirely possible given the way San Diego has played on the road, I will celebrate a Division Championship just as hard and feel just as proud of this football team.  Again, some of you may disagree, some can't seem to get off the fact that the Chargers choke-job in 2008 has more to do with the Broncos winning than San Diego's lackluster play.

Hence the reason I will be rooting for Phyllis and L.T. and the rest of the Chargers to put the pressure on the Broncos.  This team needs to play with that edge.  At times they seem to play better because of it, at others, well, there is that San Francisco game in 2006.

Jay Cutler needs to play well and win a game when there is pressure, I mean real pressure on him to do so.  Yes, the heat was on in Cleveland, and again in Atlanta, and again in New York.  This heat is a bit different.  All week the Broncos are going to hear the "What-If" scenarios.  We have already started to see it in all the Denver papers.  They are calling the Buffalo game a must win, explaining how the Broncos will find a way to miss the playoffs. 

That's ok, that is their job.  They need to sell papers.  You've seen the headlines, the RMN is looking for a buyer and the DP is trying to cut $20 million in expenses.  Not here.  I won't play the doomsday scenario.  All year I have done my best to take a week-to-week approach, that each win or loss is nothing more or less than 1 game.  I'm not about to change now.

Lost in the fluff of negativity are these realities -- The Broncos are 8-6, two games up in the division with 2 games to play.  The Chargers travel to Tampa while the Broncos host the Buffalo Bills.  Tampa is still fighting for their playoff lives.  Buffalo is playing for draft position.  The Bills won't quit, I can guarantee you that, but don't confuse the sense of urgency each team will play with.

I have seen alot of negativity, alot of frustration, and trust me I share it.  But leave it to the MSM to dwell on it, to talk about how the Broncos may just play themselves out of the post-season.  They do it so well.  No, here at MileHighReport I want you to conjure up all the positive energy you can and send it to Denver and San Diego.  I want the Broncos to WIN this division by winning on the football field.  Either way is fine, but it would be just that much sweeter.

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Nice post Guru!

I will be honest with you. TOTALLY disappointed and a little ashamed of the effort our team gave yesterday, from the players all the way to the inept coaching.
One thing that you said at the beginning of the season (and probably before this) is we are in year 3 of a a 5 year rebuilding plan. This has rung true with me, even after an effort like yesterday.
Would be ahead of where we thought we should be? Yes, I would say. This team is going to be a juggernaut, if not next year, but in 2010 season.
But we need to be realistic about this season. I cant see us winning the SB….you never know, but highly doubtful. WIth this in mind, and leading from your post, we need to thing of those developmental skills that would most benefit our young team.
This would be the Chargers beating Tampa and our young guys stepping up and having to beat Buffalo at home. I am hoping that they learnt from the weekend’s effort, and that the defeat can at least be a positive step in the development of the team.
We need to beat Buffalo….CONVINCINGLY and go into the play offs with some momentum.
Rec’d post mate!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 15, 2008 7:17 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I WANT WINNERS!

Get it done.

I can’t root for the dolts, but I can root for Shanny and the boys to cook up something for a Bills beatdown!

Don’t give up on the run! They have to have it! One of those Broncos back there will hold on to the rock. Fumbles kill everything.

All Ready!

by precisiontint on Dec 15, 2008 7:19 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I understand!

Sometimes to make a point I feel the need to go over the top…This is an example!

-TSG

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MileHighReport

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by John Bena on Dec 15, 2008 7:33 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I see where you are comming from Guru.

Bottom line for me is, I don’t care how they get there I think it is important for this team to make it to the postseason. I think it will be an important building block for next year.

I was at the game and I would love to write a post on sights and sounds of the game but with Christmas around the corner I don’t know if I will get around to it. Bottom line for me, once we were behind I never really saw or felt a sense of urgency. I saw a frustrated QB (with himself) and a team that didn’t really have anyone trying to get guys going (I’m not a rah, rah guy but…). With 4 minutes left there wasn’t much they could do but there was absoultely no fight left. I like to see a team that doesn’t know when they have been beaten and they just keep fighting until the last second.

Additionally the Panther Fans were very respectful and classey (for the most part). They were not loud. I had a guy who had been to Mile High talking to me and he said, “These Fans Suck, This place is nothing like Mile High. MH is so much louder and the fans really get in to the game.” The plus, the only time they said Peppers’s name was when they introduced him before the game.

by ThorpeBroncosfan on Dec 15, 2008 8:08 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

So the broncos loose...

…and SD wins, and the showdown is in SD! Well, that would be enough pressure. If all the Broncos need is to feal pressure then that would certainly be the formula.

They beat SD in SD and go into the playoffs with a head of steam. Once there, then there is no excuse for NOT getting up for the game!

by metalman5050 on Dec 15, 2008 9:22 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Heres a thought

If its 4th down inside of a 50 yard field goal do we now automatically go for it? And what is going on with Prater? Anyone know anything about kicking that could answer? Is he just going through a mental issue or is he clearly not the talent we saw in the first several weeks of the season? Because his missed field goals are getting really old and I’m guessing they are taking a toll on Cutler and the offense as well

by purplesocks on Dec 15, 2008 9:29 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Prater...

Everything with Prater is between the ear-holes. It seems he thinks his kicks are going to hook to the left, but they never really do, at least from that distance. It also seems he struggles from the right hash-marks.

It is all in his head, really, and I believe he will work through it. This is a young team, growing and struggling together, and Prater is part of that.

-TSG

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by John Bena on Dec 15, 2008 9:38 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Good old Pratster...

I think he needs to go spend the off season in Atlanta learning from Elam.

by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Dec 15, 2008 12:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Elam has only missed two field goals all year.............

ah but we needed the cap room.

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Dec 15, 2008 2:01 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at the games we have lost, it really doesn't matter that he missed those field goals

I would want him to make them, but in reality, the games we have lost haven’t been close, so missing one or two FG hasn’t made that much of a difference. You may argue that morally it might make a difference, but in the grand scheme of things, when we fail, usally every part of the team has major breakdowns.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum

by Broncoman on Dec 15, 2008 10:10 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well one positive

When we do lose, We lose as a team, because the whole ship falls apart. ;)

by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Dec 15, 2008 12:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Mental mental mental

Prater has a superb leg and is consistent in his approach and follow-through. He just needs to kick with authority and not think about it…I agree with TSG – he seems like he is wanting it to hook, but it is not.

by sadaraine on Dec 15, 2008 2:58 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm definitely willing to give Prater more time to pull it together...

His upside is just too great to move on too quickly. I don’t want it to be a Hixon-like story.

I just hope he pulls it together sooner rather than later.

GO BRONCOS!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 15, 2008 3:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

praters numbers so far this year

20-39 13 for 15
 40-49 3 for 9
 50 + 5 for 5

by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 15, 2008 8:31 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

For comparison elams numbers from 1993

    20-39 18 for 19
   40-49 4 for 10
   50 + 4 for 6
      
       total 26 for 35 74 %

by broncosfaninphilly on Dec 15, 2008 8:34 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I am frustrated with his

40-49 success rate, but overall he is doing good imo. I am glad Denver has him. Now that you just did a comparasion to Elams first season in Denver I think its going as good as one could expect

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 16, 2008 12:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn't matter what the Chargers do

All the Broncos have to to is take care of their own business. Beat the Bills and you’re good. In fact, there’s no excuse whatsoever to lose to Buffalo. If they do they don’t deserve to make the playoffs.

Win out and you end up a respectable 10-6 and can hold your head high, what with all the injuries plaguing this team who would have expected that?

by TheMastermind on Dec 15, 2008 9:37 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed!

I just want that extra bit of something heading into the Buffalo game. That extra little bit of gotta have it…

-TSG

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by John Bena on Dec 15, 2008 9:39 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

Young team, lots of injuries. No one has beaten Carolina at their place. I do wish they could have put up a better fight. Beat the Bills in OUR HOUSE. Fans, take note, we will need an outstanding effort from everyone in Mile High!

"Be not like dumb-driven cattle...."

by jcps on Dec 15, 2008 11:56 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks as usual, TSG...

for talking us off the ledge. ;)

As for me, that was a hard game to watch, but still… I don’t think nearly as hard to watch as the NE game or the Jax / Miami / Chokeland games. Carolina is a solid football team, one that demolished TB at TB, when we only eeked by TB at MH (it’s different I know, but still serves to back up slightly what happened yesterday). Losing to a good football team on the road is a helluva lot better to handle than losing to mediocre-to-really-really-bad teams at home. It certainly is A TON better than our blowout loss to the Lions last year! It’s all relative… lolz.

At this point in the season, as many (HT) have stated, the season’s results has been better than most of us envisioned at the beginning of the year, we couldn’t be more happy with the performances of several key young players at skill positions … and can only excited for the next couple of seasons. There’s plenty of work to be done, of course, but things are looking up for the Denver Broncos… finally!

Here’s a testament to how relatively pleased I am with the season so far… I am going to buy the Broncos “year in review” NFL DVD for the first time since oh… the 98 season!!! They still make those right? =)

by tunga77 on Dec 15, 2008 10:02 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

I try not to get too high...

on the wins or get too low on the losses, especially with such a young, inconsistent team. I thought we had a puncher’s chance yesterday. Was I shocked we were beaten handily? No.

That said, for as young and inconsistent this team has been, it is also resilient. This team has what it takes to win out and head into the playoffs winners in six of our last eight, and maybe make a run. It could happen and it all starts this week.

However, we must not lose sight of what’s really important to our young, inconsistent, resilient team— playing meaningful games down the stretch and in the playoffs. Yesterday will pay huge dividends in the development of guys like Cutler, Marshall, Royal, Moss, DOOM, Barret, Woodyard, Prater, and (especially) Bates, and the remaining games will pay even more dividends.

The best case scenario would be a SD win on Sunday morning followed by a sound Bronco win in the afternoon— you hit the nail on the head Guru. Everything after that would be gravy!

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 15, 2008 10:21 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for setting me straight, Guru . . .

It is easy to root for a San Diego loss, and I did against KC, I admit. But if the Broncos cannot WIN their way into the postseason, then they should not be there. That’s the bottom line. What good would it do to see them back their way into it? Just to see them go one and done in the playoffs? — Because that is what they will do if they are no better than that.

If the Broncos can’t win their last two games, then I hope SD wins this next week. If the Broncos back their way into the playoffs via SD losses, they will have more people laughing at them than if they didn’t get there at all. If that happens, my Broncos jerseys may just stay in the closet this year. Why would I wear them in public under those circumstances?

Never argue with a fool, lest you take on his appearance. - my daddy

by AZDynamics on Dec 15, 2008 11:00 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

Guru

I hope San Diego wins as well. I want the team to step up and play hard next sunday in front of the home crowd and just earn. Who gives a rat but what san diego does against tampa just play your game and win.

As i was sitting there watching that game yesterday i felt something i havent felt all year and that is well i dont know to tell you the truth. That whole game yesterday was just a blur and a blah. It basically looked like we werent even there. in fact the only play i remember was the touchdown by pj pope.

Next sunday they need to play with a little fire and urgency. or else san diego is gonna beath them and make the playoffs.

They need to play the eye of the tiger and get fired up and win

The quest is the Highway to the Danger Zone-Kenny loggins

by TommyTSlice on Dec 15, 2008 11:14 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I get your point Guru

but I just can’t muster up the will to root for rivers. He is a jerk and I can’t do it.

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08

by firstfan on Dec 15, 2008 11:17 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with FF

And it’s entirely possible that we lose to the Bills, the Chargers beat Tampa, and we lose in SD. That would be too much to bear, no matter what. After a three game lead….

When the Gods are angry with someone, they give him what he asks for.

Greek Proverb

by bradley on Dec 15, 2008 11:34 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

But I will say this….If Denver loses its’ last 3 games and the Chargers win them, including a head-to-head matchup, then they DESERVE to win the division and we DO NOT. PERIOD.

-TSG

SBNation's Denver Broncos Blogger
MileHighReport

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by John Bena on Dec 15, 2008 11:44 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

No argument

It would still be to much to bear.

When the Gods are angry with someone, they give him what he asks for.

Greek Proverb

by bradley on Dec 15, 2008 12:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

And so...

….I will hope and pray for a Tampa Bay win next Sunday.

When the Gods are angry with someone, they give him what he asks for.

Greek Proverb

by bradley on Dec 15, 2008 12:09 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...I wouldn't say they deserve it.

In that case we should have to revoke the AFC West playoff spot like a library card and throw in an extra WC spot for the AFC East. lol.

GO BRONCOS!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 15, 2008 12:28 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

But pschologically

This would set our team back 2 years.
We are not going to win the SB…I dont think (stranger things have happened) but this would cruel our team, and maybe the last straw fpor Shanny.
We need to demolish the Bills….I mean absolutely CRUSH them.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 15, 2008 4:20 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Plus, It would actually be really nice to see the Broncos get it done and win when they don’t “have to.” To keep that hunger going and win a game even if SD just hands the division over with another loss. They need to learn how to stoke their own fire regardless of what happens with their division. If SD loses to TB, imagine the statement it would make if we, with no other motivation than getting a W, come out and thump the Bills! I want that kind of satisfaction.

Plus I just cannot root for Asshat Rivers. Ever.

GO BRONCOS!!!!

"Let's get this thing fired up" - 'Deuce' Shanahan

by Colorado_Kitten on Dec 15, 2008 11:35 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Asshat...classic!

I would have used Buckwheat myself.

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Dec 15, 2008 2:05 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

My Point is this...

Since Day 1 this theam has controlled it’s own destiny. I said as much after Week 2 and people laughed. It isn’t about rooting for the Chargers or not, that’s missing the point. The point is I think everyone — the MSM and us included — worried a bit too much aboout San Diego and alot of the frustration I am sensing is not over being beaten by a 11-3 football team that could be the #1 overall seed in the NFC. I sense it comes from the collapse in Kansas City, that we have to go through another entire week of “What if” scenarios.

While actively rooting for the Chargers takes it over the top, I am not going to actively root against them either. In the end it doesn’t matter and it is time for the Broncos to reach out a TAKE THIS DIVISION, not let it fall in their laps…

-TSG

SBNation's Denver Broncos Blogger
MileHighReport

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by John Bena on Dec 15, 2008 11:43 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

See thats just not it for me.

Even the KC game, the Oakland game.. etc.etc. I always felt like they were “Trying” to win. (Maybe not as much in the NE game).

But this Panther game… I never felt like they tried to win. Or they even wanted to win. (Stupid I know). Just the way it felt basically after the first quarter.

I mean, your down by 20, 5 min left… and no bombs? none? I mean what were they afraid of interceptions? Because you don’t take chances there at the end, and you still lose…

by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Dec 15, 2008 12:11 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

By that time...

It was self preservation mode…

I’m not saying I was pleased with the effort. I think there was a bit too much scoreboard watching going on. This is a young team, and they are figuring all this out.

Like someone above said, one thing the 2008 Denver Broncos have been is resilient. I think they are bounce back and take it to a team with nothing left to play for than pride..

-TSG

SBNation's Denver Broncos Blogger
MileHighReport

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by John Bena on Dec 15, 2008 12:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The coaching was bad

I mean, down 17-10 at the end of the half, which wasn’t bad for an awya game. We have the ball at the twenty with what, 15 seconds left, and we give it to Young, who hasn’t played for months? What idiot called that play?
So, it’s 20-10 at the half, and all the MO is with the Panthers. Should have taken a knee gone to the half down by one score. If we’d been at the Panthers 40 or so, the call might have made sense, but from our own it was just plain idiotic.

When the Gods are angry with someone, they give him what he asks for.

Greek Proverb

by bradley on Dec 15, 2008 12:29 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

At several points I thought the playcalling was atrocious...

Not only the fumble you mentioned but also odd screens on 3rd and short, draw plays on 3rd and long, I don’t think they ran up the middle five whole times, zero attempts at a big play down the field until it was too late, 3 and outs when the game was increasingly slipping away, and out to punt with the same “ho-hum” as the whole game was played with.

The good news is that bad playcalling can hopefully be turned around in the course of a week…bad players (which I don’t think is our problem) can’t be.

GO BRONCOS!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 15, 2008 12:38 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

That's not even bringing up the atrocities on the defensive playcalling side...

…which I won’t bring up for the sake of my health.

GO BRONCOS!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 15, 2008 12:39 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

…Shanahan said after the game that Pinnock was inactive because Larsen couldn’t go (as a FB) and he didn’t want to go with a FB type game plan without a backup FB. Say what? So we go with three non-power backs (I’m not sure what Pope is, really) but that didn’t make any sense to me.

When the Gods are angry with someone, they give him what he asks for.

Greek Proverb

by bradley on Dec 15, 2008 12:57 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

DeadDrunk,

I think you just hit the nail on the head.

That loss was soooo frustrating because after our first drive it felt like the team just packed it in.

Even the announcers commented on it. They said something to the effect of “you really don’t see any sense of urgency or panic from this Broncos team”. Exactly!!! I’m not even sure they meant that as a bad thing. But it is indicative of the ’ho-hum" mentality that the Broncos seemed to have all day.

But this team has repeatedly bounced back from that type of performance with a performance as inspiring as the previous one was heartbreaking. Let’s hope they’ve still got a little more ‘high’ left in ’em .

GO BRONCOS!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Dec 15, 2008 12:33 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The little things

like at least jogging to the line of scrimmage on offense (maybe even running) when you are playing against the clock. What I saw was a lot of walking up to the line with no one out there even trying to motivate anyone.

I think that was the most disheartening thing about the game. They just played flat after the first quarter and seemed eager to get the game over with without having to expend much effort (on offense at least).

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas" - FlaBronco

by DesertBroncoFan on Dec 15, 2008 4:04 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

DD....AGreed

This was a totally lame effort.
Its like Shanny and the team had money on the Panthers or they are deliberately putting us thru another week of agony. I saw stuff yesterday of a demoralized team that did not care squat.
I saw coaches mail it in and NO fight.
THIS WORRIES ME!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 15, 2008 4:23 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

it is time for the Broncos to reach out a TAKE THIS DIVISION, not let it fall in their laps…

ala Chiefs in 2006. I don’t want to back into the playoffs like those posers did.

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Dec 15, 2008 2:07 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I get it.

I do not give a flying factiod about the SD game this week. I want to beat Buffalo and then go to San Diego the following week and shut Phillip River’s mouth. I want that to be a convincing win and while I would never wish anyone to be injured, I hope Rivers is so damn sore on Monday the 29th he can’t….well this is a family site. As for Carolina, when I did my little piece on the trenches I put the MHR on notice that this was a damn fine team. They are perhaps the most solid team on both lines of any in the entire NFL. We did not loose to a bunch of bums.

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08

by firstfan on Dec 15, 2008 5:25 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

except I have been subjected to all the crap the chargers and their so-called fans have been spewing all season. Thats why I can even think of rooting for them to win, I wish their game had not been moved, so Denver would not know. But Denver needs to worry about getting and playing better and heading into the playoffs on a positive note. Most likely they would play Indy and to beat them the Broncos need to play better in all phases of the game. That HAS to start on Sunday. I think it will. I have undying faith in Shanny and the blue and orange and I truyly feel Denver is gonna win out in the regular season.

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 15, 2008 11:41 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

See Above...

It isn’t about rooting for them….It is about no putting tons of energy into hoping they lose so it is easy for the Broncos….

EARN IT DAMMIT!

-TSG

SBNation's Denver Broncos Blogger
MileHighReport

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by John Bena on Dec 15, 2008 11:43 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

they need to earn it. The problem yesterday was they were scoreboard watching and IMO were not into the game. Once SD came back all the air was gone from them. That should never have happened. But again they will win Sunday and win the division

somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 15, 2008 11:47 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

The only score they should be watching is their own!

"Let's get this thing fired up" - 'Deuce' Shanahan

by Colorado_Kitten on Dec 15, 2008 11:50 AM MST up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

The Broncos would have earned a playoff spot by their record even if SD loses. I hope SD goes down hard. I also hope Broncos get a winning record.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Dec 15, 2008 1:00 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about hoping SD wins

but I do completely agree that the Broncos need to go out and dominate the Bills no matter the outcome of the SD/Tampa game. If only to show that they do have the ability to put away the teams that they should be putting away despite not needing the win for the division crown.

I think they were so pumped yesterday heading out on to the field because they assumed that the chefs would win and when they found out that SD won, they got deflated and were never able to overcome it. I mentioned in another post that I wished that Sunday’s game hadn’t been flexed so that they were playing at the same time and wouldn’t know the outcome. Unfortunately, we’re going to be in the same position this week with SD playing ahead of us. I just hope that whether SD wins or loses, we come out with the same intensity (and maintain it no matter what) that we know this team can bring.

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

"Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas" - FlaBronco

by DesertBroncoFan on Dec 15, 2008 4:10 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Lurked forever...Just wondered

Does anyone think that this looked a whole lot like a preseason game. The starters come out and play 2 or 3 series and then just go into a try things out mode. I guess that the only way i can justify this loss is to tell myself that the game plan was to come out and play a couple of game planned series followed by a no more injuries mentality.
I am sure that some of that playcalling was so crazy because they were just evaluating for the future. Maybe Shannahan believes that the Broncos will definitely be in the playoffs and thinks the Broncos might meet the Panthers in the SB.

He would be ridiculed for sitting starters prior to getting a playoff berth so he told them to just not get hurt.

The lack of urgency was so disgusting that I have to believe that they were in a save it for later mentality, just like in a preseason game. That is my conspiracy theory and i am sticking to it.

Thank you MHR for giving me an outlet and providing me with so much to digest about my favorite broncos.

by Louisiana Bronco on Dec 15, 2008 6:51 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Welcome Louisiana!

It all starts in the trenches HT 11/11/08

by firstfan on Dec 15, 2008 7:02 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

The Broncos thought they already had the AFC West title at gametime

They didn’t expect KC to lose that far ahead with only a couple minutes left. That seems the most reasonable explaination of the “preseason” feel.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Dec 15, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post Guru

This team has battled back from losses ever since the Miami game. After that we beat CLE and ATL on the road. Then after laying an egg against Oakland we answered back by beating the Jets in NY and then KC. We have rebounded lately and we can do it a again against the Bills. I just hope the home crowd gets insanely LOUD.

GO BRONCOS!!

"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan

Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9

by weazel on Dec 15, 2008 7:15 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Agree and Disagree

Since i think we will beat the Bills i am not too worried about it but i would love to clinch the division. I really just want to end the division but i also want to do it the right way so i am very torn.

Go Broncos!

by dbroncos78087 on Dec 15, 2008 10:53 PM MST reply actions   0 recs

Better Get Right...

The Bills have playmakers and would love to jam the Broncos up right now. Play like the season depended on it…

Oh yea… it just might.

All Ready!

by precisiontint on Dec 16, 2008 9:02 AM MST reply actions   0 recs

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