Cutler, Marshall Headed To Pro Bowl; Clady Gets the Shaft
by John Bena on Dec 16, 2008 2:13 PM MST
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It was a valient effort. Try as we might, we couldn't get Ryan Clady to the Pro Bowl. The two rosters, annouced at 4 PM est include Jay Cutler as one of the 3 quarterbacks(behind starter Peyton Manning and Brett Favre) and Brandon Marshall starting at receiver alongside Andre Johnson.
Clady was left off the team completely in favor of Joe Thomas(CLE), Jason Peters(BUF) and Michael Roos(TEN). I guess it was to be expected. Players and Coaches rarely vote rookies into the game as starters. Joe Thomas, as well as he played last season, was able to get to the game as a reserve. This year, it is hard to imagine how Thomas, and Peters(who missed all of training camp and the first week of the season) could be better than Clady.
Discuss your thoughts here, though I have a feeling I know what you think....
Full rosters after the bump -- >
| NFC | |||
| Offense | |||
| Pos. | Starter(s) | Reserves | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Quarterback | Kurt Warner, Arizona | Drew Brees, New Orleans Eli Manning, New York Giants |
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| Running back | Adrian Peterson, Minnesota | Michael Turner, Atlanta Clinton Portis, Washington |
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| Fullback | Mike Sellers, Washington | ||
| Wide receiver | Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Anquan Boldin, Arizona |
Steve Smith, Carolina Roddy White, Atlanta |
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| Tight end | Jason Witten, Dallas | Chris Cooley, Washington | |
| Tackle | Jordan Gross, Carolina Walter Jones, Seattle |
Chris Samuels, Washington | |
| Guard | Steve Hutchinson, Minnesota Chris Snee, New York Giants |
Leonard Davis, Dallas | |
| Center | Andre Gurode, Dallas | Shaun O'Hara, New York Giants | |
| Defense | |||
| Pos. | Starter(s) | Reserves | |
| Defensive end | Julius Peppers, Carolina Justin Tuck, New York Giants |
Jared Allen, Minnesota | |
| Defensive tackle | Kevin Williams, Minnesota Jay Ratliff, Dallas |
Pat Williams, Minnesota | |
| Outside linebacker | DeMarcus Ware, Dallas Lance Briggs, Chicago |
Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay | |
| Inside linebacker | Patrick Willis, San Francisco | Jon Beason, Carolina | |
| Cornerback | Charles Woodson, Green Bay Antoine Winfield, Minnesota |
Asante Samuel, Philadelphia | |
| Free safety | Nick Collins, Green Bay | Brian Dawkins, Philadelphia | |
| Strong safety | Adrian Wilson, Arizona | ||
| Special teams | |||
| Pos. | Starter(s) | Reserves | |
| Punter | Jeff Feagles, New York Giants | ||
| Placekicker | John Carney, New York Giants | ||
| Kick returner | Clifton Smith, Tampa Bay | ||
| Special teamer | Sean Morey, Arizona | ||
| AFC | |||
| Offense | |||
| Pos. | Starter(s) | Reserves | |
| Quarterback | Peyton Manning, Indianapolis | Brett Favre, New York Jets Jay Cutler, Denver |
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| Running back | Thomas Jones, New York Jets | Chris Johnson, Tennessee Ronnie Brown, Miami |
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| Fullback | Le'Ron McClain, Baltimore | ||
| Wide receiver | Andre Johnson, Houston Brandon Marshall, Denver |
Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Wes Welker, New England |
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| Tight end | Tony Gonzalez, Kansas City | Antonio Gates, San Diego |
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| Tackle | Joe Thomas, Cleveland Jason Peters, Buffalo |
Michael Roos, Tennessee |
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| Guard | Alan Faneca, New York Jets Kris Dielman, San Diego |
Brian Waters, Kansas City | |
| Center | Kevin Mawae, Tennessee | Nick Mangold, New York Jets | |
| Defense | |||
| Pos. | Starter(s) | Reserves | |
| Defensive end | Mario Williams, Houston Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis |
Robert Mathis, Indianapolis | |
| Defensive tackle | Albert Haynesworth, Tennessee Kris Jenkins, New York Jets |
Shaun Rogers, Cleveland | |
| Outside linebacker | James Harrison, Pittsburgh Joey Porter, Miami |
Terrell Suggs, Baltimore | |
| Inside linebacker | Ray Lewis, Baltimore | James Farrior, Pittsburgh | |
| Cornerback | Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland Cortland Finnegan, Tennessee |
Darrelle Revis, New York Jets | |
| Free safety | Ed Reed, Baltimore | ||
| Strong safety | Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh | Chris Hope, Tennessee | |
| Special teams | |||
| Pos. | Starter(s) | Reserves | |
| Punter | Shane Lechler, Oakland | ||
| Placekicker | Stephen Gostkowski, New England | ||
| Kick returner | Leon Washington, New York Jets | ||
| Special teamer | Brendon Ayanbadejo, Baltimore | ||
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As I've already posted:
I will NOT watch this freakin’ game!
by DjBroncos on Dec 16, 2008 2:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Bummer...hopefully a reserve roll will be in place for Clady...
on a good note, Rivers didn’t make it so that is a positive.
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by irish1611 on Dec 16, 2008 2:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The Shaft is right
There is no Tackle in the NFL who has played anywhere near as well as Clady this season. This is a gross miscarriage of justice.
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on Dec 16, 2008 2:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
pro bowl+hall of fame=worthless pieces of crap
This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.
by Tim Lynch on Dec 16, 2008 2:24 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
+1
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 16, 2008 3:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This is re-goddamned-diculous!
At least Jake Long didn’t make it. I wonder if Clady could get in as a reserve…
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by papigrande on Dec 16, 2008 2:25 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Let's tone it tone a little...
…for the wee people on the site. : )
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 16, 2008 4:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry.
I couldn’t resist the urge to quote Anchorman.
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by papigrande on Dec 16, 2008 5:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said in another thread:
Clady should go to Hawaii and kick the ass of each and every pro bowl (which now does not deserve to be capitalized, like the hall of shame) tackle, and then kick the ass of every coach and player who did not vote for him.
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by papigrande on Dec 16, 2008 2:26 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to BMarsh
Having Jay behind Favre is just ridiculous (even though head to head we know who’s better).
Amazing that no one from the line that up until last week lead the league in not giving up sacks. Either of the Ryans should be there. I doubt any of the tackles represented have given up fewer that .5 sacks this season!
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by DesertBroncoFan on Dec 16, 2008 2:27 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe next year--with a running back--we can send both Brandon and Eddie
The best defense is a good defense!
And last week's young players. Yes!
by Mike Clark on Dec 16, 2008 5:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
My Take:
Highlights: No Romo, T.O, Randy Moss and Rivers (ha!)
Some new players are getting put on that finally are getting some cred (Asomugha, Finnigen, Williams)
Lowlights: What is up with all the Jets players getting on the roster?!?! 7 players? East-coast bias much?
I wouldn’t worry too much about Clady not being on the roster. Remember, most players get put on the year after they should be on (i.e. Marshall). I’d put money on Clady becoming a starter next year. Don’t lose sleep over it fellas.
Really happy to see Cutler in there, but it’d be funny to see Favre drop and Rivers be put on as a replacement. That’d be an awkward locker buddy right there.. hehe.
by binford04 on Dec 16, 2008 2:27 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That's very forgiving of you...
but even Randy MF Cross, who hates the Broncos like it is his job, said that Ryan Clady is the best Tackle in the League. He said the Panthers ought to move Peppers to the other side, and leave Clady alone. There is a huge gap between Clady and Roos (the second best tackle,) and this is ridiculous that he was snubbed.
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on Dec 16, 2008 2:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
jenkins? favre?
really hard to justify some of these guys. jenkins has been crap for a month now. favre is leading the league in interceptions. Cassel, rivers, pennington each have more yards than him, better qb rating, better td to int ratio. kind of silly
by bushwah on Dec 16, 2008 2:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
But Favre is Favre.
And Favre is the real Touchdown Jesus. Right, Guru?
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by papigrande on Dec 16, 2008 2:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...the Jets were a playoff team with Pennington, not much changed with the addition of Favre.
Yet the Dolphins go from 1-15 to 9-5 and Pennington gets the shaft over Favre? lmao Pro Bowl=J-O-K-E
This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.
by Tim Lynch on Dec 16, 2008 6:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Jenkins deserves it on the whole body of work
but he did sure get handled by Casey Wiegmann a couple weeks ago
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on Dec 16, 2008 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Jenkins deserves it
I also believe that shows how good Wiegmann is . . .
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by AZDynamics on Dec 16, 2008 5:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish we could have voted for Wiegmann's wife...
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by papigrande on Dec 16, 2008 5:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Heck...
I wish SHE would vote for ME!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 17, 2008 9:13 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No T.O. What is he going to have a fit now?
The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest, so I find it totally funny that T.O didn’t get in. I guess it is unanimous that the public really isn’t fond of him anymore.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 16, 2008 7:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
could it be time for TO to retire?.....
" He goes against Champ everyday." -Jay Cutler
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Dec 16, 2008 9:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bogus
No way is Clady not as good as any one of them and better than the other two. Clady absolutely needs to go as a reserve if one of them goes down or bows out.
But what do you expect…this is an award based off opinion from three very different groups and averaged out.
by sadaraine on Dec 16, 2008 2:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Did anybody notice how ESPN is pretending like the announcements weren't made yet?
They’re rolling with everything at 4:30 evidently.
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on Dec 16, 2008 2:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Clady
Will go as a coach selection or as an alternate if there’s an injury.
J
by Jezru on Dec 16, 2008 2:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else thing the Cardinals love is a little excessive?
by PosterNutbag on Dec 16, 2008 2:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Not really
Given that Warner may end up being the MVP and he’s throwing to Fitz and Boldin, I don’t have a problem that they all made it.
I’m surprised the Steve Smith wasn’t able to crack on of the starting roles, but it’s hard to argue against the Card’s wideouts.
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by DesertBroncoFan on Dec 16, 2008 2:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I completely disagree with Favre being selected
That is a reputation pick, just like Shaq making the NBA all-star team this year. Every time I’ve seen the Jets play this year they have seemed to win despite Favre’s bad play and miscues.
by RyanBuff on Dec 16, 2008 2:45 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think Favre may have been a little overrated for this pro-bowl.
But in fairness, the Jets would be nowhere without him. On the other hand, the Jets have far too many players, and the east coast bias shows again.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 16, 2008 4:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sports Guru
Did you get any word from the Broncos media relations on who the alternates are?
by sdbaseballfan on Dec 16, 2008 2:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I did not...
Let me see if I can find out at all….
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by John Bena on Dec 17, 2008 6:36 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Champ
Didn’t get picked either… He probably won’t be healthy by then…
J
by Jezru on Dec 16, 2008 2:49 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Love Rivers not getting picked.....
But how can Jay be the #3 QB?? seriously if your going to include Farve because he’s “Farve” then make him the #3 QB, Lord knows he sucks!! and Peyton has looked like a deer in the headlights all season, Jay is better then both of these clown’s!!! There needs to be an impartial judge, so that Denver stops being shafted!
by Broncos64ever on Dec 16, 2008 2:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
No offense
but I don’t think what you’re saying is coming from an “impartial judge”. Has Cutler been better than Favre? Absolutely. Favre doesn’t deserve to be anywhere near the Pro Bowl in February, but that’s how these votes always go. My real issue with your comment comes with calling Peyton Manning a “clown” and the idea that Denver is getting shafted. While he hasn’t played at his typical HoF level, he looks to be waking up the sleeping giant that is the Colts, and he has carried that team on his back, despite his gimpy knee. In terms of Denver getting the shaft, I think Marshall has an overblown reputation in the league and I wouldn’t have had a problem with him not being selected to the Pro Bowl, so I see his inclusion canceling out the gross omission of Clady (something I knew was going to happen, but it doesn’t stop it from being terrible). Cutler really only got in this year because of Brady’s injury, as there was no way anybody was going to penetrate the Triumvirate of Overrated QB Gods in Brady, Favre, and Manning (yes, I realize I defend Manning and then call him overrated, but the work he has done this season with his underachieving team has been damned impressive in my eyes, despite the rest of his career being overrated to a degree), so we should enjoy a good season out of Cutler being greatly rewarded.
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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 16, 2008 3:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree that Manning is no clown.
Also agree that a healthy Brady would have gotten in. Still, Favre is way past his retirement age, has received his due already, and I would put Cutler ahead of him.
I’m not really upset about Clady. Is Clady the best LT in the NFL? Absolutely; AND he’s a rookie to boot. The problem is (as I think Guru alludes to), there is kind of a hesitation to put rookies in the bowl. I voted for Clady, but I understand the traditions of the voters too.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 16, 2008 4:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What's worse, Clady not getting selected or Jason Peters getting selected?
No one came up to Roos and Clady. I understand there are a lot of athletes that played well enough to get there and lost out to a numbers game, but the jobbing done at offensive tackle is a crying shame.
And I agree with the implications that Rivers probably should have made it and Favre not. But I’m surely glad Phyllis is going to be watching Cutler on TV. :)
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by AZDynamics on Dec 16, 2008 3:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
He'll have a good cry about it, and be over it, I am sure
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by Ted Bartlett on Dec 16, 2008 3:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Now
is this really surprising? I wish I could say yes, but I would be lying. I honestly figured someone from Denver would get a snub. Lo and behold it was Clady. I guess they really could not snub Cutler or Marshall but it would not have surprised me. Good thing I never watch that POS game anyways so I wont miss a thing. I am glad for JC and #15.
The more things change the more they stay the same
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by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 16, 2008 3:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
My Guess is...
this will be the last time in a long time (minus injury) that we won’t see Clady in Hawaii, so don’t sweat it. Sometimes right or wrong you got to earn your stripes.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 16, 2008 3:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Beig a rookie is the only thing (right or wrong) that kept him out. He’ll get his turn, and plenty of them.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Dec 16, 2008 4:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Look not that big a deal
I am miffed, but I am sure Clady will get plenty of trips, the old saying is it usally takes one year longer than you deserve to get there and you stay two years longer than you deserve. Fact is when we are a dominate team then we will get more recognition, when you lose to the likes of the Raiders, Chiefs, and Jags, then that weighs on peoples minds. I am more worried about winning games, playoffs, and Super Bowls than pro bowls. You can have alll the pro- bowlers in the world, I want championships.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Dec 16, 2008 4:39 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Here is the scary thing
Notice no players on defense, (not that I would expect it), but I would like to see a balance of defensive and offensive players.
I would expect next year Denver will send the following to the pro-bowl:
Cutler, Clady, Marshall, Royal, Hillis, Kern, and maybe Harris
That being said, I really don’t see any pro-bowlers on the defensive side, maybe Woodyard, but we really need some balance as far as talent on that side of the ball.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Dec 16, 2008 4:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I would put DJ and Champ in the pool for next year
you can bet Dj is gonna come out and Earn his new paycheck!
" He goes against Champ everyday." -Jay Cutler
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Dec 16, 2008 9:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Daniel Graham?
Isn’t he a beast as well?
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by papigrande on Dec 16, 2008 5:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
They only like the pass catchers
I agree, Graham is probably one of the best pure TE in the league as far as blocking and pass catching, but because he is option 10 for Jay Cutler, no one will vote for him.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
by Broncoman on Dec 16, 2008 5:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought their was a rule Only 2 Broncos allowed per season.
If Champ had two broken arms I would still pick him.
I think it will be great for Jay to spend some time with Favre and Manning. Favre is the starter out of respect to him, not disrespect to Jay.
What no prater????
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Dec 16, 2008 6:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Prater needs to learn how to kick from inside the 50.
Then he will be considered. His numbers are eerily comparable to Elam’s first year in Denver, though, so I’m not worried about him.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 16, 2008 8:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Congrats to Cutler and Marshall for their first Pro Bowl.
That’s cool they get to take in this together as teammates.
Well it sucks that nobody else got in, especially Ryan Clady. However he will get his turn and it will be well worth it.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 16, 2008 7:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
With Peyton most likely resting his knee, and Brett Farve taking a break off for his long contemplation about coming returning eventual comeback….Jay Cutler could start! :D
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by Elway4Prez on Dec 16, 2008 9:25 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I would really like Mannning to be there
Jay could spend a week with him and learn from him. That would be one of the best things that could happen for Jay.
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by AZDynamics on Dec 16, 2008 10:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you may be right!
A week with bret and peyton will be fun for jay! Look guys and gals, this is not a serious game! It is more about having fun!
by metalman5050 on Dec 17, 2008 4:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
First year that brothers were selected...
I have a feeling Peyton will go since his brother will be there with him…..
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by John Bena on Dec 17, 2008 6:37 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I love that Turner made it and LT did not.
by PosterNutbag on Dec 17, 2008 3:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
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