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Tennessee can no longer place the franchise tag on Haynesworth. Should the Broncos go after him??

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Yes! The question is do we have the cap room for a guy like that? I don’t know if there is a safety free agent of the status of Haynesworth. That would be a huge get

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by Bob_Bell on Dec 17, 2008 8:04 AM MST reply actions  

we have big cap space next year

if I’m not mistaken…some old conracts are paid off after this year

by Sneaky Sean on Dec 17, 2008 3:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Why is this rule like that?

I am just surprised…

But hey, that’s great for us – hopefully!

by DjBroncos on Dec 17, 2008 8:13 AM MST reply actions  

It was one of the agreements they made

when Haynesworth signed the franchise contract last season. If he made the Pro Bowl, the Titans agreed not to franchise him again.

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by Ted Bartlett on Dec 17, 2008 8:19 AM MST up reply actions  

I have heard of sevaral clauses before, just not that one.

For his sake it is a good one because he will get another long term contract should the Titans keep him or for anyone how signs him and not get that one-year contract thing.

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by weazel on Dec 17, 2008 11:12 AM MST up reply actions  

Yes, absolutely...

This player is a game-changer, who is wrongly vilified for one very bad and well-publicized mistake. He was a bit of an underachiever early in his career, but as he has grown up, he brings it on every play, and just DOMINATES. In my opinion he is the most disruptive defensive player in the NFL, and all 32 teams should have interest in him, if they were smart.

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by Ted Bartlett on Dec 17, 2008 8:18 AM MST reply actions  

Which,

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by DesertBroncoFan on Dec 17, 2008 9:01 AM MST up reply actions  

Stupid Enter Key

Which would unfortunately drive up the cost for his services (is what I was going to say).

I not sure if the Cowgirls would be interested since a locker room with Haynesworth and Gurode might not be very friendly…

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by DesertBroncoFan on Dec 17, 2008 9:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Not all 32 teams

But certainly 20-25 of them.

He’s the best at his position, fairly young… On the minus-side he has some injury-history.

He might just be what this team needs to get over the bumb. I mean we would get pro-bowl performance out of DOOM as well. Look what his presence did to a replacement-level player like Antwaan Odom!

Remember: There’s no need for MLBs and SAFs to make tackles, if the rusher doesn’t get through the line!

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by Claus Vestergaard on Dec 17, 2008 9:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Ted

My gut feeling is to say no to Hayensworth. He is exactly what our defensive line needs, but not at the cost of ruining the core of our team: impressionable youth. I was under the assumption that Hayensworth was a bad apple beyond the face stomping episode (which is bad enough by itself). Perhaps I am mistaken.

My first inclination is to say that there is no way such a move would happen. On the other hand, with the close ties between Fisher and Shanahan, someone in the Titan’s organization could whisper to Hayensworth if Shanahan requested it.

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by Steve Nichols on Dec 17, 2008 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

I say we trade Champ and get Albert.

He is worth his weight in Gold…as is Champ, cept Albert weights twice as much. :P

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by Tim Lynch on Dec 17, 2008 9:19 AM MST reply actions  

I agree on a trade Zappa...

It actually seems pretty obvious to me, but maybe not Haynsworth, maybe not Champ. We also have a bunch of guys on offense that are in Portis-like situations— great young players that are due very large contracts in the next two years. Do you think it is out of question for Shanny to trade a guy like Marshell for an elite DT either this year or next?? I would be wholeheartedly against it because I think breaking up the Jay/Marshell connection would be a huge detriment to our offense, but we’re talking about Shanny here. Unless it was Sundquist pushing for those moves and the Goodmans don’t play like that….

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by ButteBronco on Dec 17, 2008 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm not advocating,

I’m just sayin’…

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by ButteBronco on Dec 17, 2008 10:26 AM MST up reply actions  

maybe we could get champ to take a pay cut

to get haynesworth in

But before I get all excited…has he changed? It was a bad incident on the field. I never heard anything about him off the field though. so who has a write up on him?

by Sneaky Sean on Dec 17, 2008 3:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Champ would never take a pay cut....period.

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Dec 17, 2008 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes and no.

I think Champ is just the kind of guy that would. Shanny is good at talking guys into cuts, and Bailey is a leader, a “team first guy”, and now has his brother in town. Not only that, if they just contract him to what he’s already making, that’s not a cut. I think that would be a fair way to go.

But I wouldn’t trade him. He’s a known quality.

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by Steve Nichols on Dec 18, 2008 1:38 AM MST up reply actions  

I disagree.

Shanny is trying to build a Championship Offense and trading BMarsh seems to be self defeating. We already developed him, why dump him? Champ on the other hand isn’t getting any younger and is already making huge money and not currently even playing for us…our problems are against the run game even with Champ OUT of the games. Trade Champ for something moderately valuable and at least take a stab at bidding for Phat Albert.

I just think that trading away our young players is pointless if Shanny is trying to win a Super Bowl. It’s a smart move if all he wants is a slightly above average team…but I think he wants another Super Bowl myself.

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by Tim Lynch on Dec 17, 2008 4:57 PM MST up reply actions  

NO NO NO

to trading BM and Champ.
We have the cap space to get him.
Bi g YES to Haynesworth then we go Brian Cushing at SLB and Patrick Chung at Safety. Or keep WW at safety (real safety and not 4th LB).

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by boydy2669 on Dec 18, 2008 6:07 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd like that

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by broncoboy on Dec 17, 2008 10:40 AM MST up reply actions  

I would say 'No Thanks"

My impression was that he has some baggage. With our youngsters on the front four I would prefer to see a slightly less talented player who is a solid citizen. I think we can do this through the draft rather than FA.

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by firstfan on Dec 17, 2008 10:16 AM MST reply actions  

Haynesworth is exactly whom we need..

I’m thrilled he will be available next season.. the cost of another bad year defensively will be to great to even consider not going after Fat Albert.. pay him whatever we have to.. there’s not a single starter on that defensive line and everything starts up front.. we MUST release Bly.. the cap hit is unfortunate but you have to pay for your mistakes sometimes. DRob is very average, he can go too.. between those two salaries we can afford a real player – it’s painfully obvious we have no clue how to draft defensively, it has to be in free agency and via the trade.. who else will be available for defensive lineman in free agency?

by quarterhorse on Dec 17, 2008 10:18 AM MST reply actions  

Where do we get the money for him?

Please see Steve O’s Cap break down from a month or so ago…. Click here.

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by YellowStoneBronco on Dec 17, 2008 12:33 PM MST reply actions  

No.

The Raiders need him! Him and about a new o-line and recievers.

by Raider76 on Dec 17, 2008 2:36 PM MST reply actions  

lol classic!

Why would you want the Raiders and Al Davis ruin his career like they did to Warren Sapp? :P

This is my GAP, there are many like it but this one is mine. Without my GAP I am useless, without me, they will run through my GAP. I will protect my GAP and have my brothers back on his. I will not be moved from my GAP, I am a crazed dog that patrols this area and will defeat all who entire it. I own this GAP, it is mine. I bought it with blood and sweat. I will not be pushed. I will not be moved. This Sunday I will make a stand and a statement.

by Tim Lynch on Dec 17, 2008 4:58 PM MST up reply actions  

You can never ruin too many good DT careers?

Who knows in too years maybe he’ll be the next football player on Dancing with the Stars.

by Raider76 on Dec 17, 2008 6:03 PM MST up reply actions  

2

Didn’t know the grammar police where here!

by Raider76 on Dec 18, 2008 3:42 PM MST up reply actions  

well we gotta have something to rag on about you

a reasonable raider fan is a difficult thing to harbor. You don’t make it easy on us.

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by Jeremy Bolander on Dec 18, 2008 6:14 PM MST up reply actions  

lol.

The feeling is mutual.

by Raider76 on Dec 18, 2008 11:34 PM MST up reply actions  

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