Denver Broncos @ San Diego Chargers -- 4th Quarter Open Thread
by John Bena on Dec 28, 2008 8:41 PM MST
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| Category | Broncos | Chargers |
| Score | 13 | 38 |
| Rushing Yards |
90 | 171 |
| Passing Yards |
215 | 184 |
| Total Yards | 305 | 355 |
| T.O.P | 19:10 |
25:50 |
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finally!!!
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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still a long shot
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men
not as impressive as they need to be
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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2 Td and a FG.....
can they do it?
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men
We have a defense compiled of a bunch of guys that could not start for any other team,
depth guys. That’s fine. Cut some guys that arn’t producing to thier contract, fine. Add a few playmaking rookies and maybe a beast FA or two and our depth guys won’t look so bad. Blowing things up and starting over would be the dumbest thing imaginable. This organization is smarter than that. Blowing it up is what happens on message boards, open threads, and organizations run by Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones, or managed my Matt Millin.
As I said before, firing Slowick for managing a team comprised of average to below average talent would be terrible. Remember in the preseasn when someone here posted player ratings based on positive plays vs. negative plays, etc? I would be interested to se how that looked now for our font seven.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
A good chef can make edible food with bad ingredients...Slowik cant even find the kitchen Butte
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Thats garbage.....we looked decent against Atrlanta and Jets because he had to use what he had in the right way.
Larsen looked great, WW looked great, Dre played well. Our “stars” come back and he reverts to being conservative.
He has no idea about his players, their strengths and has loyalty to veterans whan they have proven nothing but liabilities to the team. thats why he is known as a players coach…he looks after his boys regardless of performance…its pathetic……Any coincidence that Bell is looking bad…..hes playing soft zone again with players that are not suited to it.
I WILL GIVE NO LEE WAY TO SLOWIK….HE SUCKS!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Sorry man,
but I have no idea how you could make those judements unless you were inside the locker room. Shanny has always played the best players. There is a long track record there, and unless you have some sources inside the locker room I don’t buy your accusaions. Does it suck to see WW on the sidelines? Yes. Is he better than DJ? I don’t think so. Was Larsen really that great? Also, the soft zone, etc. is based on the pathetic front seven in my mind.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
We will agree to disagree man...
You are a good cat Butte. SHanny has let Slowik have hsi way…he has even said that in interviews.
My only question: When did our D look the best? What were the reasons for it? Whate were the differences?
Your argument is good, I just dont agree.
Have a good man.
The most important thing: ALL of us here want to see the best the Broncos can be. We jsut see thing differentr.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Yep,
Agree to disagree bro. It will be ineresting to see how everything unfolds.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
Edible isn't a very high bar boydy. I'd argue that's where we're at.
You don’t get to the playoffs with edible.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
Agreed....but Slowik couyld not create a piss up with a brewery....
He would make GREAT players look ordinary….like Champ Bailey!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
See in my mind...
guys like Elvis Dumervil, Jarvis Moss, Ekuban, Thomas, DRob, Winborn, Webster, et al. make Champ look ordinary.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
Whos knows....stranger things have happened...like Bush being voted in twice!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
once. fixed.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
will anyone on D make a play??
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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Lets go Broncos....I BELEIVE IN MIRACLES (THE RAMONES)!!!!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
biblically bad!!
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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Jay is incredible....all those guys have played with good D's....
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Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Doesn't matter
We’re 8-8. QB’s are judged on their record. Stats are meaningless. May not be his fault, and it’s not, but that’s just the way it is.
Stats lie, Montana had better 3rd year
Except Montana team went 13-3 and he won a Super Bowl
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Elway 11-5 his third year
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
What stat means more, wins or yards
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Better year
I’ll take wins over stats anyday of the week, no questions asked.
2008 is Rivers’ third season as a starter and he’s having a better season than Jay Cutler.
Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Dec 28, 2008 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
Man, I don't know which is worse, this or Raiders loss
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
both have the stench of futility
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men
Anyway...Kudos to all of you that are still posting....
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Wow
Our D is unbelievably bad. I cannot even emphasize this enough. Webster is dogsh!t, Barrett is utterly terrible in run support, and they simply have zero pride. They are getting beaten so badly it’s unreal. We have had 1 stop all night long. 1 fricken stop!
Not sure man...but I should not vent
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Failing to plan is planning to fail.
i doubt it.....
Guru is in the EST zone….after 11 pm
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men
I feel sorry for Cutler, honestly
He has absolutely no defense, and no running game to speak of. He also gets no good field position because of the defense and ST. Yet he still puts up numbers and does all he can to win.
Yep...I am feeling devastaed...but the players must be gutted!!!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Marshall, that was freaking stupid, call for the ball to throw it away
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
This is a CATASTROPHIC melt down by this organization!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Lucky they did not play Sproles all night
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Well, for all of it, making the playoffs at 8-8 is nothing to be proud of SD
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
merry christmas then......
your reward will be a beating at the hands of the colts
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men
Yeah...but they got shit done when it mattered, and we crumbled....thats all coaching
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
I prescibe beer, lots and lots of beer
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Blow up the defense
and I truly mean blow it up. I would not be sad to see anyone go. No one is off limits in my opinion.
Coming to the 'trade Champ Bailey' side I see...
welcome
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Anybody, man, anybody.
I don’t care who it is. I’m not saying Champ hasn’t been a tremendous, absolutely outstanding football player. All I’m saying is he looks the part of a guy on the decline. I would not mind losing him if it meant getting a stud DT or something, ya know?
well like everything else in life.....
if you are doing the wrong things, you get nothing…..
time for this team to “come to Jesus”
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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The trials and tribulations of youth...
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Maybe, but look at Atlanta, much younger and they are going to the playoffs
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Young where??
There defense isn’t young….oh, and neither is Michael Turner….
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1st year QB, O-line new, WR same age, DBs are all young
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
That this notion of young teams can't win, especially in the AFC west is a misconception
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Oh and they play in a division with four three other tough teams, we have the Raiders and Chiefs and manage a split, unacceptable, youth be damned
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Brand new coach and coordinator, how do they have more experience
We had Bailey and Bly, vets, McCree and Manual, vets
Bailey, Webster, Williams vets
Ekuban, Engleberger vets
We had a vetern defense
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
We played the Raiders (twice) Chiefs (twice), I think our schedule was far easier
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
BS....the trials and tribulations of horrendous coaching staff that sold their young team down the river
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Then what....
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"Players" coaches is not what a byoung team needs....
They need coaches that demand perfection, work and make environments that breed success. In high end sport, acoaches job is to set there athletes up for success….not failure.
What have you seen Guru? I have seen veterans not held responsible, and given back ther starting roles carte blanche, seen rookies play with heart and passion and relegated to the bench. I have seen young coaches given too much leeway and not enough guidance. Is it any co incidence we have come out gang busters (when Shanny scripts plays) yet we become prediactable when it is left in Bates hands?
As I have said, I am JAZZED on our potential, but unitl Shanny matches our potential with top flight coaching, then we will have “what if” seasons and we will sell this team short.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Look at staff, get a DC NOW and draft players that suit his style...that is the first thing
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Vaild, and I agree....
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do we try to get a coach like Gunther Cunningham?
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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No, I'd rather get someone like Wade Philips or Crennel
They would run a true 3-4 since at the moment we have better line backers than d-lineman
wade won't take the job
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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I would be for Gunther and make sure Shanahan stays out of his hair and allows him total control over the defense
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
You do NOT want Gunther Cunningham.
That’s all I’ll say about that.
by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
Every player on the field right now needs to remember how this feels.
Remember what it is like to have 50 thrown on you……
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Agreed Holic...
And valuable for Shanahan.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
What is of value
We got our head kicked in last year too in San Diego the last game of the season, if they couldn’t figure out how to close out a season after that Sn Fran loss two years ago, then they have learned nothing.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
if we can get rid of defensive players who clearly arent helping us out
ei: champ. We will have a whole lot of cap room to get a guy like haynseworth or peppers….then we draft oall defense in the draft…..this D could be a whole lot better
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
Yare, Yare
or my, my in japanese. An ugly way to end the season. Well on the bright side your team has a lot of talent on offense. If only the same could be said for your D.
Lets hope the Colts avenge your loss with a Wildcard victory shall we?
YES!!! i cant stand the chargers
plus i really like manning
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
Too late tonight....
But, soon…I promise.
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And there's the 50-Burger.
I am trying to think about where this ranks in worst all time Broncos meltdowns.
just under the 55-10 Super Bowl
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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I was at that one.
And would have to agree…of course, THAT team did go to the Super Bowl.
by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
Worst 4 week meltdown ever...right up there with the Cowboys today...except worse!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
don't ever forget this one folks!!!!
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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A total and complete embarassment
Can’t say it wasn’t as predictable as can be though. This is just an atrocity. 52 in the biggest game of the year? Really Broncos? This could be an all-time low.
we need everything
fader nation is a conquered nation
"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"
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it gonna be hard having this taste in my mouth until week one next year
speaking of next season. I believe we have the NFC East
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
We would have been 4-12 if that was our schedule this year
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Someone please tell me
how we just got completely punked on national tv by a 7-8 team when we absolutely needed to win.
This team lacks leadership, plain and simple
I think losing Rod Smith, Nalen, and Lynch has left a big void as far as players accepting responsibility
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Thats why coaches are essentila for such a young team
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
I don't even think it's that
To me it seems like the Veterans were complacent. When the rookies had to fill in, they played hungry and stepped up their play.
Never thought would rout for the Colts, but go Colts
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
if that draft is directed towards the dfense
i do like our chances
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
I didnt really cheer for either side on this game
If I have learned anything from witnessing multiple playoff disappointments, its be careful what you wish for.
Whomever the Colts have to play, they play. Its just a matter of who wants it more
I say Colts win
The Chargers aren’t great, just better than us, which isn’t saying much.
Insanity is just a state of mind.
Well, we aren't Detroit :) (yet)
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
I expectd 10-6 with our schedule
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Failing to plan is planning to fail.
I agree, win the KC and Oakland games and we would of been 10-6
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
There's one consolation...
I don’t have the numbers in front of me but with this….ahem….loss…Denver moves up a little in the draft.
Oh and unlike the Cowboys, I guess we should be glad Denver at least broke 20. Yayyyyyy!!!!
i dont really care about that pick
half of the picks made seem to be busts anyway….its about the picks made later on
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
YOU KNOW WHAT...I care about pride and fight and we showed none...thats what i am so livid about
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Me too
We showed no passion, no pride, no inclination that we wanted to be out there and wanted to be in the playoffs. Guys were just going through the motions like it was a Sunday backyard game.
And mainly the veterans....Champ can get out of town with Boss. Bye DJ, see ya Nate and get the Southwest airlines with Slowik
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
To hell with southwest, greyhound is what he deserves
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Glad you won't be in the draft room LOL
Clady. Royal. First round. Second round. I don’t know about you but I’m glad they’re here.
by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions
Im not saying all first round picks are bad
but i cant be happy after a loss just so i know we move up a pick.
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
i think with a draft shanny put together this year....
it wont matter where we pick this year
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
And there it is
If we can put together a defensive draft HALF as monumental as the offensive picks we’ve had recently there’s a possibility next year this time we all won’t be sitting with our heads in our hands like this. Let’s hope…
by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
guys our d needs to be blown the fuck up
by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM MST reply actions
Amen
This unit is so incredibly bad it’s almost laughable.
Oh no, I am laughing.
But not because it is really funny. I just don’t know what else to do. LOL
by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
Woodyard played better and has better instincts and upside.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
He can go too, but I will give him another chance with a top flight DC
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Defense should have to walk back to Denver
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
Which is why you shouldn't forget it
Remember it and harness it.
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I think forgetting this game is the worst thing you can do
Especially if you’re in this organization. You need a big time reality check right now if you’re the Broncos. This team is just flat out not any good. Especially on defense. You need to use this game to evaluate your roster and look at all the complacency that was going on out there tonight.
O will be explosive Ryan...
We just pressured it to much with a dumb arse DC and BAD talent on D…thats a woeful combination
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
We are on the same page my friend
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Here will be the interesting part...
Who loses their job over this? Like we all discussed earlier, how many defensive coordinators has this team let go for FAR less than this? This was the most embarrassing defensive performance by this team this year without question. In fact it trumps anything that happened last year.
I’d hate to see us turn over another coordinator so fast but there’s no reason whatsoever to perform like this and keep your job. Just none.
I will pack Slowik's bags and DRIVE him to where ever he wants to go...NO CHARGE!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Word. LOL
I wanted to be patient with the D all year and I was but there’s no way you keep your job after this. Heads are gonna roll. Peggy, put Mike on the couch until he gets this sorted out because another season like this and I am going to have a lot of trouble still believing in a certain someone, and I don’t want to go there.
by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:35 PM MST up reply actions
Thats the thing MM, Mikey is Bi Polar...
He did such a good job with injuries and making things work with rookies, yet screwed the pooch on coaching staff and game planning when out “veterans” were back.
I question his evaluation of staff, and wonder if he hires people that hecan control and are not a threat to his fiefdom.
It is a strange dynamic!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Cant forget this game or it wont be motivation...
Shanny better be in Bowlen’s office tomorrow and they better be gfiving out and pink slips a plenty starting with Slowik.
Time to start building a D to match the O
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
Not a bad idea
Too many injuries period to be honest.
despite what has happened Slowik has to go
by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:35 PM MST reply actions
Priority in FA and Draft has to be Defense.
Picking up Haynesworth would be huge, his ability to collapse the pocket tends to make the DEs better…
I think Denver needs to
pick a damn defensive scheme and get the personnel for it in the draft and free agency. Stop this carousel of schemes, gimmicks, and idiot linebackers who overpursue. Nate Webster, Champ Bailey, and the D-Line have to go.
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Defensive futility is on Shannahan as well
I know it is kind of taboo to talk about Shannahan and his job security around Denver, but he is the head football coach. The offense, defense, and ST falls in his lap as well. Right now, I would say definitively that Shanny is simply not getting it done. Has he lost his touch? I don’t know. I just don’t think his job security should be out of the question by any means.
As long as there is a Pat Bowlen
There will be a Mike Shannahan.
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I realize that.
I do. I know that Bowlen will never ever under any circumstance fire Shannahan. I just don’t know why more people don’t talk about it, that’s all.
There's been lots of talk about it
Both this season and last season, at least how I’ve seen it. But I absolutely agree that Shannahan should not just received a free pass to go on to the next season. He was part of the problem this season, no denying it.
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You are absolutely correct
I can’t imagine Slowik keeping his job at this point. But the buck stops at the top. Technically they finished better than last year but if we don’t see a real return to playoff contention next year you’re going to have a hard time convincing a lot of fans we have the right man running the show.
by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:43 PM MST up reply actions
I had friends over to watch the game, what a waste of good beer
by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:43 PM MST reply actions
That was the problem
Beer isn’t strong enough to wash away this kind of pain.
by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:44 PM MST up reply actions
there aren`t words to describe my hatred for Philip Rivers...I`m dead serious
by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:47 PM MST reply actions
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