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Denver Broncos @ San Diego Chargers -- 4th Quarter Open Thread

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Category Broncos Chargers
Score 13 38
Rushing Yards
90 171
Passing Yards
215 184
Total Yards 305 355
T.O.P 19:10

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finally!!!

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

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by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:45 PM MST reply actions  

still a long shot

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

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by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:46 PM MST reply actions  

not as impressive as they need to be

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:47 PM MST up reply actions  

2 Td and a FG.....

can they do it?

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:46 PM MST reply actions  

We have a defense compiled of a bunch of guys that could not start for any other team,

depth guys. That’s fine. Cut some guys that arn’t producing to thier contract, fine. Add a few playmaking rookies and maybe a beast FA or two and our depth guys won’t look so bad. Blowing things up and starting over would be the dumbest thing imaginable. This organization is smarter than that. Blowing it up is what happens on message boards, open threads, and organizations run by Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones, or managed my Matt Millin.

As I said before, firing Slowick for managing a team comprised of average to below average talent would be terrible. Remember in the preseasn when someone here posted player ratings based on positive plays vs. negative plays, etc? I would be interested to se how that looked now for our font seven.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:47 PM MST reply actions  

Thats garbage.....we looked decent against Atrlanta and Jets because he had to use what he had in the right way.

Larsen looked great, WW looked great, Dre played well. Our “stars” come back and he reverts to being conservative.
He has no idea about his players, their strengths and has loyalty to veterans whan they have proven nothing but liabilities to the team. thats why he is known as a players coach…he looks after his boys regardless of performance…its pathetic……Any coincidence that Bell is looking bad…..hes playing soft zone again with players that are not suited to it.
I WILL GIVE NO LEE WAY TO SLOWIK….HE SUCKS!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry man,

but I have no idea how you could make those judements unless you were inside the locker room. Shanny has always played the best players. There is a long track record there, and unless you have some sources inside the locker room I don’t buy your accusaions. Does it suck to see WW on the sidelines? Yes. Is he better than DJ? I don’t think so. Was Larsen really that great? Also, the soft zone, etc. is based on the pathetic front seven in my mind.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions  

We will agree to disagree man...

You are a good cat Butte. SHanny has let Slowik have hsi way…he has even said that in interviews.
My only question: When did our D look the best? What were the reasons for it? Whate were the differences?
Your argument is good, I just dont agree.
Have a good man.
The most important thing: ALL of us here want to see the best the Broncos can be. We jsut see thing differentr.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:01 PM MST up reply actions  

Yep,

Agree to disagree bro. It will be ineresting to see how everything unfolds.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Edible isn't a very high bar boydy. I'd argue that's where we're at.

You don’t get to the playoffs with edible.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:50 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed....but Slowik couyld not create a piss up with a brewery....

He would make GREAT players look ordinary….like Champ Bailey!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:55 PM MST up reply actions  

See in my mind...

guys like Elvis Dumervil, Jarvis Moss, Ekuban, Thomas, DRob, Winborn, Webster, et al. make Champ look ordinary.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:00 PM MST up reply actions  

OK...

But playing soft zone KILLS aggressive guys like Dre, Champ and hampen the devlopment of ball hawkers like Bell

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions  

once. fixed.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:48 PM MST up reply actions  

will anyone on D make a play??

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:48 PM MST reply actions  

Lets go Broncos....I BELEIVE IN MIRACLES (THE RAMONES)!!!!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:49 PM MST reply actions  

biblically bad!!

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:53 PM MST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter

We’re 8-8. QB’s are judged on their record. Stats are meaningless. May not be his fault, and it’s not, but that’s just the way it is.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 8:57 PM MST up reply actions  

No doubt

I won’t even start to disagree with that. Cutler is a stud. Bottom line.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Stats lie, Montana had better 3rd year

Except Montana team went 13-3 and he won a Super Bowl

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Elway 11-5 his third year

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 8:59 PM MST up reply actions  

What stat means more, wins or yards

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions  

wins

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:03 PM MST up reply actions  

2008 is Rivers’ third season as a starter and he’s having a better season than Jay Cutler.

Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Dec 28, 2008 9:34 PM MST up reply actions  

Man, I don't know which is worse, this or Raiders loss

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions  

both have the stench of futility

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Anyway...Kudos to all of you that are still posting....

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions  

Wow

Our D is unbelievably bad. I cannot even emphasize this enough. Webster is dogsh!t, Barrett is utterly terrible in run support, and they simply have zero pride. They are getting beaten so badly it’s unreal. We have had 1 stop all night long. 1 fricken stop!

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions  

Not sure man...but I should not vent

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions  

i doubt it.....

Guru is in the EST zone….after 11 pm

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:59 PM MST up reply actions  

I feel sorry for Cutler, honestly

He has absolutely no defense, and no running game to speak of. He also gets no good field position because of the defense and ST. Yet he still puts up numbers and does all he can to win.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:03 PM MST reply actions  

Yep...I am feeling devastaed...but the players must be gutted!!!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:04 PM MST reply actions  

Marshall, that was freaking stupid, call for the ball to throw it away

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:04 PM MST reply actions  

Lucky they did not play Sproles all night

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions  

Well, for all of it, making the playoffs at 8-8 is nothing to be proud of SD

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions  

merry christmas then......

your reward will be a beating at the hands of the colts

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions  

I prescibe beer, lots and lots of beer

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Blow up the defense

and I truly mean blow it up. I would not be sad to see anyone go. No one is off limits in my opinion.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Coming to the 'trade Champ Bailey' side I see...

welcome

-TSG

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by John Bena on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Anybody, man, anybody.

I don’t care who it is. I’m not saying Champ hasn’t been a tremendous, absolutely outstanding football player. All I’m saying is he looks the part of a guy on the decline. I would not mind losing him if it meant getting a stud DT or something, ya know?

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions  

well like everything else in life.....

if you are doing the wrong things, you get nothing…..

time for this team to “come to Jesus”

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions  

The trials and tribulations of youth...

-TSG

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by John Bena on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions  

Maybe, but look at Atlanta, much younger and they are going to the playoffs

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Young where??

There defense isn’t young….oh, and neither is Michael Turner….

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by John Bena on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions  

1st year QB, O-line new, WR same age, DBs are all young

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:09 PM MST up reply actions  

That this notion of young teams can't win, especially in the AFC west is a misconception

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Brand new coach and coordinator, how do they have more experience

We had Bailey and Bly, vets, McCree and Manual, vets
Bailey, Webster, Williams vets
Ekuban, Engleberger vets
 We had a vetern defense

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

ATL

has an effin running game, an effective D

by binford04 on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions  

Then what....

-TSG

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by John Bena on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions  

"Players" coaches is not what a byoung team needs....

They need coaches that demand perfection, work and make environments that breed success. In high end sport, acoaches job is to set there athletes up for success….not failure.
What have you seen Guru? I have seen veterans not held responsible, and given back ther starting roles carte blanche, seen rookies play with heart and passion and relegated to the bench. I have seen young coaches given too much leeway and not enough guidance. Is it any co incidence we have come out gang busters (when Shanny scripts plays) yet we become prediactable when it is left in Bates hands?
As I have said, I am JAZZED on our potential, but unitl Shanny matches our potential with top flight coaching, then we will have “what if” seasons and we will sell this team short.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Vaild, and I agree....

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by John Bena on Dec 28, 2008 9:09 PM MST up reply actions  

do we try to get a coach like Gunther Cunningham?

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:10 PM MST reply actions  

No, I'd rather get someone like Wade Philips or Crennel

They would run a true 3-4 since at the moment we have better line backers than d-lineman

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions  

wade won't take the job

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:13 PM MST up reply actions  

I would be for Gunther and make sure Shanahan stays out of his hair and allows him total control over the defense

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Every player on the field right now needs to remember how this feels.

Remember what it is like to have 50 thrown on you……

-TSG

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by John Bena on Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM MST reply actions  

Agreed Holic...

And valuable for Shanahan.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST up reply actions  

What is of value

We got our head kicked in last year too in San Diego the last game of the season, if they couldn’t figure out how to close out a season after that Sn Fran loss two years ago, then they have learned nothing.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Also

We used to routinely get creamed by the Colts in the playoffs and everyone would say the same thing. Oh this is a great learning experience. Well, it looks like we haven’t learned a damn thing.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:19 PM MST up reply actions  

Great point

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:19 PM MST up reply actions  

if we can get rid of defensive players who clearly arent helping us out

ei: champ. We will have a whole lot of cap room to get a guy like haynseworth or peppers….then we draft oall defense in the draft…..this D could be a whole lot better

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM MST reply actions  

Yare, Yare

or my, my in japanese. An ugly way to end the season. Well on the bright side your team has a lot of talent on offense. If only the same could be said for your D.

Lets hope the Colts avenge your loss with a Wildcard victory shall we?

by metal_militia on Dec 28, 2008 9:13 PM MST reply actions  

YES!!! i cant stand the chargers

plus i really like manning

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Go get em Militia!'

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST up reply actions  

is there MHR Radio 2nite?

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:14 PM MST reply actions  

Too late tonight....

But, soon…I promise.

-TSG

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by John Bena on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

And there's the 50-Burger.

I am trying to think about where this ranks in worst all time Broncos meltdowns.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST reply actions  

#1

atleast in my lifetime

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

just under the 55-10 Super Bowl

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions  

I was at that one.

And would have to agree…of course, THAT team did go to the Super Bowl.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions  

don't ever forget this one folks!!!!

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST reply actions  

A total and complete embarassment

Can’t say it wasn’t as predictable as can be though. This is just an atrocity. 52 in the biggest game of the year? Really Broncos? This could be an all-time low.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST reply actions  

Coaches anyone?

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions  

we need everything

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions  

Someone please tell me

how we just got completely punked on national tv by a 7-8 team when we absolutely needed to win.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST reply actions  

This team lacks leadership, plain and simple

I think losing Rod Smith, Nalen, and Lynch has left a big void as far as players accepting responsibility

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Thats why coaches are essentila for such a young team

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:21 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't even think it's that

To me it seems like the Veterans were complacent. When the rookies had to fill in, they played hungry and stepped up their play.

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:22 PM MST up reply actions  

I didnt really cheer for either side on this game

If I have learned anything from witnessing multiple playoff disappointments, its be careful what you wish for.

Whomever the Colts have to play, they play. Its just a matter of who wants it more

by metal_militia on Dec 28, 2008 9:20 PM MST reply actions  

I say Colts win

The Chargers aren’t great, just better than us, which isn’t saying much.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by KTJ on Dec 28, 2008 9:22 PM MST up reply actions  

There's one consolation...

I don’t have the numbers in front of me but with this….ahem….loss…Denver moves up a little in the draft.

Oh and unlike the Cowboys, I guess we should be glad Denver at least broke 20. Yayyyyyy!!!!

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:22 PM MST reply actions  

i dont really care about that pick

half of the picks made seem to be busts anyway….its about the picks made later on

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Me too

We showed no passion, no pride, no inclination that we wanted to be out there and wanted to be in the playoffs. Guys were just going through the motions like it was a Sunday backyard game.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions  

To hell with southwest, greyhound is what he deserves

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Glad you won't be in the draft room LOL

Clady. Royal. First round. Second round. I don’t know about you but I’m glad they’re here.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Shit yeah

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Im not saying all first round picks are bad

but i cant be happy after a loss just so i know we move up a pick.

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions  

i think with a draft shanny put together this year....

it wont matter where we pick this year

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

And there it is

If we can put together a defensive draft HALF as monumental as the offensive picks we’ve had recently there’s a possibility next year this time we all won’t be sitting with our heads in our hands like this. Let’s hope…

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed MM

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Rivers onbly threw 200 yards

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM MST reply actions  

Amen

This unit is so incredibly bad it’s almost laughable.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions  

Oh no, I am laughing.

But not because it is really funny. I just don’t know what else to do. LOL

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Feeling your pain brutha

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

The only one worth keeping is D.J

I think he isn’t 100% but he’s young enough to try one more year…

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Even him

I’m not sold on. He sucked tonight.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions  

Woodyard played better and has better instincts and upside.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions  

He can go too, but I will give him another chance with a top flight DC

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Defense should have to walk back to Denver

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST reply actions  

Which is why you shouldn't forget it

Remember it and harness it.

The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester

by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:29 PM MST up reply actions  

I think forgetting this game is the worst thing you can do

Especially if you’re in this organization. You need a big time reality check right now if you’re the Broncos. This team is just flat out not any good. Especially on defense. You need to use this game to evaluate your roster and look at all the complacency that was going on out there tonight.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:31 PM MST up reply actions  

O will be explosive Ryan...

We just pressured it to much with a dumb arse DC and BAD talent on D…thats a woeful combination

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

When you always playing from behind, you tend to force a lot of things

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Here will be the interesting part...

Who loses their job over this? Like we all discussed earlier, how many defensive coordinators has this team let go for FAR less than this? This was the most embarrassing defensive performance by this team this year without question. In fact it trumps anything that happened last year.

I’d hate to see us turn over another coordinator so fast but there’s no reason whatsoever to perform like this and keep your job. Just none.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:30 PM MST reply actions  

Word. LOL

I wanted to be patient with the D all year and I was but there’s no way you keep your job after this. Heads are gonna roll. Peggy, put Mike on the couch until he gets this sorted out because another season like this and I am going to have a lot of trouble still believing in a certain someone, and I don’t want to go there.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:35 PM MST up reply actions  

Thats the thing MM, Mikey is Bi Polar...

He did such a good job with injuries and making things work with rookies, yet screwed the pooch on coaching staff and game planning when out “veterans” were back.
I question his evaluation of staff, and wonder if he hires people that hecan control and are not a threat to his fiefdom.
It is a strange dynamic!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:38 PM MST up reply actions  

Cant forget this game or it wont be motivation...

Shanny better be in Bowlen’s office tomorrow and they better be gfiving out and pink slips a plenty starting with Slowik.
Time to start building a D to match the O

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:30 PM MST reply actions  

Priority in FA and Draft has to be Defense.

Picking up Haynesworth would be huge, his ability to collapse the pocket tends to make the DEs better…

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:36 PM MST up reply actions  

I think Denver needs to

pick a damn defensive scheme and get the personnel for it in the draft and free agency. Stop this carousel of schemes, gimmicks, and idiot linebackers who overpursue. Nate Webster, Champ Bailey, and the D-Line have to go.

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by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:37 PM MST reply actions  

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by John Bena on Dec 28, 2008 9:37 PM MST reply actions  

Defensive futility is on Shannahan as well

I know it is kind of taboo to talk about Shannahan and his job security around Denver, but he is the head football coach. The offense, defense, and ST falls in his lap as well. Right now, I would say definitively that Shanny is simply not getting it done. Has he lost his touch? I don’t know. I just don’t think his job security should be out of the question by any means.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:37 PM MST reply actions  

As long as there is a Pat Bowlen

There will be a Mike Shannahan.

The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester

by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I realize that.

I do. I know that Bowlen will never ever under any circumstance fire Shannahan. I just don’t know why more people don’t talk about it, that’s all.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:40 PM MST up reply actions  

There's been lots of talk about it

Both this season and last season, at least how I’ve seen it. But I absolutely agree that Shannahan should not just received a free pass to go on to the next season. He was part of the problem this season, no denying it.

The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester

by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow

That was a waste of a 100th comment. Shucks…

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by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:40 PM MST up reply actions  

You are absolutely correct

I can’t imagine Slowik keeping his job at this point. But the buck stops at the top. Technically they finished better than last year but if we don’t see a real return to playoff contention next year you’re going to have a hard time convincing a lot of fans we have the right man running the show.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:43 PM MST up reply actions  

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