Denver Broncos @ San Diego Chargers -- 4th Quarter Open Thread

by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Dec 28, 2008 8:41 PM MST in 2008 Game Day Threads Comment 213 comments

Start of 4th Quarter

Category	Broncos	Chargers
Score	13	38
Rushing Yards	90	171
Passing Yards	215	184
Total Yards	305	355
T.O.P	19:10	25:50

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TD!!!

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 8:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

finally!!!

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:45 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

still a long shot

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:46 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

our O is impresive

by BronColombia Fan on Dec 28, 2008 8:46 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

not as impressive as they need to be

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

onside kick time

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 8:46 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

2 Td and a FG.....

can they do it?

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:46 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

We have a defense compiled of a bunch of guys that could not start for any other team,

depth guys. That’s fine. Cut some guys that arn’t producing to thier contract, fine. Add a few playmaking rookies and maybe a beast FA or two and our depth guys won’t look so bad. Blowing things up and starting over would be the dumbest thing imaginable. This organization is smarter than that. Blowing it up is what happens on message boards, open threads, and organizations run by Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones, or managed my Matt Millin.

As I said before, firing Slowick for managing a team comprised of average to below average talent would be terrible. Remember in the preseasn when someone here posted player ratings based on positive plays vs. negative plays, etc? I would be interested to se how that looked now for our font seven.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

A good chef can make edible food with bad ingredients...Slowik cant even find the kitchen Butte

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

He doesn't have any ingredients to work with.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 8:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Thats garbage.....we looked decent against Atrlanta and Jets because he had to use what he had in the right way.

Larsen looked great, WW looked great, Dre played well. Our “stars” come back and he reverts to being conservative.
He has no idea about his players, their strengths and has loyalty to veterans whan they have proven nothing but liabilities to the team. thats why he is known as a players coach…he looks after his boys regardless of performance…its pathetic……Any coincidence that Bell is looking bad…..hes playing soft zone again with players that are not suited to it.
I WILL GIVE NO LEE WAY TO SLOWIK….HE SUCKS!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry man,

but I have no idea how you could make those judements unless you were inside the locker room. Shanny has always played the best players. There is a long track record there, and unless you have some sources inside the locker room I don’t buy your accusaions. Does it suck to see WW on the sidelines? Yes. Is he better than DJ? I don’t think so. Was Larsen really that great? Also, the soft zone, etc. is based on the pathetic front seven in my mind.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

We will agree to disagree man...

You are a good cat Butte. SHanny has let Slowik have hsi way…he has even said that in interviews.
My only question: When did our D look the best? What were the reasons for it? Whate were the differences?
Your argument is good, I just dont agree.
Have a good man.
The most important thing: ALL of us here want to see the best the Broncos can be. We jsut see thing differentr.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep,

Agree to disagree bro. It will be ineresting to see how everything unfolds.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Edible isn't a very high bar boydy. I'd argue that's where we're at.

You don’t get to the playoffs with edible.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed....but Slowik couyld not create a piss up with a brewery....

He would make GREAT players look ordinary….like Champ Bailey!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

See in my mind...

guys like Elvis Dumervil, Jarvis Moss, Ekuban, Thomas, DRob, Winborn, Webster, et al. make Champ look ordinary.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

OK...

But playing soft zone KILLS aggressive guys like Dre, Champ and hampen the devlopment of ball hawkers like Bell

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Whos knows....stranger things have happened...like Bush being voted in twice!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

once. fixed.

"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."

by ButteBronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Can the D do it?

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 8:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

will anyone on D make a play??

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Lets go Broncos....I BELEIVE IN MIRACLES (THE RAMONES)!!!!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:49 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

biblically bad!!

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Or is San Diego's offense that good?

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 8:53 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

our D is a laughing stocvk

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:53 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

our D is that BAD

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 8:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Did anyone else know that Jay Cutler has had a better 3rd year than Philip Rivers, John Elway,and Joe Montana?

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Jay is incredible....all those guys have played with good D's....

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Not Philip Rivers

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 8:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't matter

We’re 8-8. QB’s are judged on their record. Stats are meaningless. May not be his fault, and it’s not, but that’s just the way it is.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 8:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

He's still a bright spot.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 8:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

No doubt

I won’t even start to disagree with that. Cutler is a stud. Bottom line.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Stats lie, Montana had better 3rd year

Except Montana team went 13-3 and he won a Super Bowl

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Elway 11-5 his third year

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 8:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not talking about records, I'm talking about stats.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

What stat means more, wins or yards

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

wins

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Better year

I’ll take wins over stats anyday of the week, no questions asked.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

So will I but I'm just saying that Cutler is a great player and needs a better defense.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

2008 is Rivers’ third season as a starter and he’s having a better season than Jay Cutler.

Bolts from the Blue // "It is what it is." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Dec 28, 2008 9:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Man, I don't know which is worse, this or Raiders loss

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

both have the stench of futility

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Anyway...Kudos to all of you that are still posting....

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Our D is unbelievably bad. I cannot even emphasize this enough. Webster is dogsh!t, Barrett is utterly terrible in run support, and they simply have zero pride. They are getting beaten so badly it’s unreal. We have had 1 stop all night long. 1 fricken stop!

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 8:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Is MHR Radio on tonight?

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 8:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Not sure man...but I should not vent

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 8:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

i doubt it.....

Guru is in the EST zone….after 11 pm

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 8:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Same here.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 8:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I feel sorry for Cutler, honestly

He has absolutely no defense, and no running game to speak of. He also gets no good field position because of the defense and ST. Yet he still puts up numbers and does all he can to win.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Yep...I am feeling devastaed...but the players must be gutted!!!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:04 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Marshall, that was freaking stupid, call for the ball to throw it away

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:04 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

This is bad, when you see frustration, that means that the franchise is in a hole.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

This is a CATASTROPHIC melt down by this organization!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Lots of questions need to be answered, as I said

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Lucky they did not play Sproles all night

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Well, for all of it, making the playoffs at 8-8 is nothing to be proud of SD

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, San Diego was given this division.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

merry christmas then......

your reward will be a beating at the hands of the colts

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah...but they got shit done when it mattered, and we crumbled....thats all coaching

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Holy shit, Mario Haggan is in!

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Now what?

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I prescibe beer, lots and lots of beer

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Blow up the defense

and I truly mean blow it up. I would not be sad to see anyone go. No one is off limits in my opinion.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Coming to the 'trade Champ Bailey' side I see...

welcome

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Anybody, man, anybody.

I don’t care who it is. I’m not saying Champ hasn’t been a tremendous, absolutely outstanding football player. All I’m saying is he looks the part of a guy on the decline. I would not mind losing him if it meant getting a stud DT or something, ya know?

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

well like everything else in life.....

if you are doing the wrong things, you get nothing…..

time for this team to “come to Jesus”

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

The trials and tribulations of youth...

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Dec 28, 2008 9:06 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe, but look at Atlanta, much younger and they are going to the playoffs

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Young where??

There defense isn’t young….oh, and neither is Michael Turner….

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

1st year QB, O-line new, WR same age, DBs are all young

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

What's your point.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That this notion of young teams can't win, especially in the AFC west is a misconception

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh and they play in a division with four three other tough teams, we have the Raiders and Chiefs and manage a split, unacceptable, youth be damned

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Their defense has more experience than ours.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Brand new coach and coordinator, how do they have more experience

We had Bailey and Bly, vets, McCree and Manual, vets
Bailey, Webster, Williams vets
Ekuban, Engleberger vets
We had a vetern defense

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Plus Atlanta had an easy schedule. The Lions, the Raiders, the Saints. What else do you want?

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

We played the Raiders (twice) Chiefs (twice), I think our schedule was far easier

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

ATL

has an effin running game, an effective D

by binford04 on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

BS....the trials and tribulations of horrendous coaching staff that sold their young team down the river

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Then what....

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

"Players" coaches is not what a byoung team needs....

They need coaches that demand perfection, work and make environments that breed success. In high end sport, acoaches job is to set there athletes up for success….not failure.
What have you seen Guru? I have seen veterans not held responsible, and given back ther starting roles carte blanche, seen rookies play with heart and passion and relegated to the bench. I have seen young coaches given too much leeway and not enough guidance. Is it any co incidence we have come out gang busters (when Shanny scripts plays) yet we become prediactable when it is left in Bates hands?
As I have said, I am JAZZED on our potential, but unitl Shanny matches our potential with top flight coaching, then we will have “what if” seasons and we will sell this team short.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

What's the first thing we do in the offseason?

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Get rid of Slowik

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Head down to Shotgun Willie's and get hammered.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Look at staff, get a DC NOW and draft players that suit his style...that is the first thing

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:09 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Vaild, and I agree....

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Dec 28, 2008 9:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

do we try to get a coach like Gunther Cunningham?

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

He's over the hill imo

by Mad Mel on Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

No, I'd rather get someone like Wade Philips or Crennel

They would run a true 3-4 since at the moment we have better line backers than d-lineman

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

wade won't take the job

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I would be for Gunther and make sure Shanahan stays out of his hair and allows him total control over the defense

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

You do NOT want Gunther Cunningham.

That’s all I’ll say about that.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Every player on the field right now needs to remember how this feels.

Remember what it is like to have 50 thrown on you……

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

This game has been a valuable lesson learned for this team.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed Holic...

And valuable for Shanahan.

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Has it?

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

What is of value

We got our head kicked in last year too in San Diego the last game of the season, if they couldn’t figure out how to close out a season after that Sn Fran loss two years ago, then they have learned nothing.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Also

We used to routinely get creamed by the Colts in the playoffs and everyone would say the same thing. Oh this is a great learning experience. Well, it looks like we haven’t learned a damn thing.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Great point

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

if we can get rid of defensive players who clearly arent helping us out

ei: champ. We will have a whole lot of cap room to get a guy like haynseworth or peppers….then we draft oall defense in the draft…..this D could be a whole lot better

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:11 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe the season is over

by binford04 on Dec 28, 2008 9:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Yare, Yare

or my, my in japanese. An ugly way to end the season. Well on the bright side your team has a lot of talent on offense. If only the same could be said for your D.

Lets hope the Colts avenge your loss with a Wildcard victory shall we?

by metal_militia on Dec 28, 2008 9:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

YES!!! i cant stand the chargers

plus i really like manning

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Go get em Militia!'

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

is there MHR Radio 2nite?

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Too late tonight....

But, soon…I promise.

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Please. I need explanations.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

We only need 4 TDs to win now

by Mad Mel on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

And there's the 50-Burger.

I am trying to think about where this ranks in worst all time Broncos meltdowns.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

#1

atleast in my lifetime

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

just under the 55-10 Super Bowl

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I was at that one.

And would have to agree…of course, THAT team did go to the Super Bowl.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Worst 4 week meltdown ever...right up there with the Cowboys today...except worse!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

don't ever forget this one folks!!!!

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

A total and complete embarassment

Can’t say it wasn’t as predictable as can be though. This is just an atrocity. 52 in the biggest game of the year? Really Broncos? This could be an all-time low.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Coaches anyone?

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

we need LBs`

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

we need everything

fader nation is a conquered nation

"Jerry Jones is Al Davis with a smile!"

The creator of the following names: conquered fader nation, Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

plain and fucking simple

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

And of course this is the one game we don't lose a running back

by binford04 on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

it gonna be hard having this taste in my mouth until week one next year

speaking of next season. I believe we have the NFC East

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

We would have been 4-12 if that was our schedule this year

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

And the AFC North

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

That's two wins right there. The Bengals and the Browns

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Someone please tell me

how we just got completely punked on national tv by a 7-8 team when we absolutely needed to win.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

This team lacks leadership, plain and simple

I think losing Rod Smith, Nalen, and Lynch has left a big void as far as players accepting responsibility

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Thats why coaches are essentila for such a young team

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't even think it's that

To me it seems like the Veterans were complacent. When the rookies had to fill in, they played hungry and stepped up their play.

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Jesus

Michaels is already comparing the Chargers to the 05 Steelers

by binford04 on Dec 28, 2008 9:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Colts have way more momentum...

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Never thought would rout for the Colts, but go Colts

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

it also helps when u have the MVP on your team

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Colts are gonna win big time. Hopefully the Chargers get blown outta the water.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

If we have a good draft we can beat any team

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

if that draft is directed towards the dfense

i do like our chances

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

A lot of work has to be done in the offseason

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I didnt really cheer for either side on this game

If I have learned anything from witnessing multiple playoff disappointments, its be careful what you wish for.

Whomever the Colts have to play, they play. Its just a matter of who wants it more

by metal_militia on Dec 28, 2008 9:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I say Colts win

The Chargers aren’t great, just better than us, which isn’t saying much.

Insanity is just a state of mind.

by giants9107 on Dec 28, 2008 9:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

guys face it. We are terrible

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:21 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Well, we aren't Detroit :) (yet)

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

No we aren't. We finished one game better than last year. Did any one expect us to win the division title?

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I expectd 10-6 with our schedule

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, win the KC and Oakland games and we would of been 10-6

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

same here

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, we did.

Three weeks ago. LOL

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I did.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Never think you have something until you have it.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

There's one consolation...

I don’t have the numbers in front of me but with this….ahem….loss…Denver moves up a little in the draft.

Oh and unlike the Cowboys, I guess we should be glad Denver at least broke 20. Yayyyyyy!!!!

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

i dont really care about that pick

half of the picks made seem to be busts anyway….its about the picks made later on

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

YOU KNOW WHAT...I care about pride and fight and we showed none...thats what i am so livid about

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Word

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Me too

We showed no passion, no pride, no inclination that we wanted to be out there and wanted to be in the playoffs. Guys were just going through the motions like it was a Sunday backyard game.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

And mainly the veterans....Champ can get out of town with Boss. Bye DJ, see ya Nate and get the Southwest airlines with Slowik

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

To hell with southwest, greyhound is what he deserves

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Glad you won't be in the draft room LOL

Clady. Royal. First round. Second round. I don’t know about you but I’m glad they’re here.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Shit yeah

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Im not saying all first round picks are bad

but i cant be happy after a loss just so i know we move up a pick.

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

i think with a draft shanny put together this year....

it wont matter where we pick this year

"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards

by broncoboy on Dec 28, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

And there it is

If we can put together a defensive draft HALF as monumental as the offensive picks we’ve had recently there’s a possibility next year this time we all won’t be sitting with our heads in our hands like this. Let’s hope…

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed MM

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Who's happy?

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Rivers onbly threw 200 yards

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

guys our d needs to be blown the fuck up

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Amen

This unit is so incredibly bad it’s almost laughable.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh no, I am laughing.

But not because it is really funny. I just don’t know what else to do. LOL

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Feeling your pain brutha

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

The only one worth keeping is D.J

I think he isn’t 100% but he’s young enough to try one more year…

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Even him

I’m not sold on. He sucked tonight.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Woodyard played better and has better instincts and upside.

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

He can go too, but I will give him another chance with a top flight DC

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

The only disappointment is our defense. Our defense gives the other team the game.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Defense should have to walk back to Denver

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman

by Broncoman on Dec 28, 2008 9:24 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Word

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone needs to forget this game. If anything, use it as motivation to become better.

by broncoholic on Dec 28, 2008 9:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Which is why you shouldn't forget it

Remember it and harness it.

The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester

by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I think forgetting this game is the worst thing you can do

Especially if you’re in this organization. You need a big time reality check right now if you’re the Broncos. This team is just flat out not any good. Especially on defense. You need to use this game to evaluate your roster and look at all the complacency that was going on out there tonight.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

O will be explosive Ryan...

We just pressured it to much with a dumb arse DC and BAD talent on D…thats a woeful combination

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Last thing I'm worried about is offense

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

We are on the same page my friend

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I believe so

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

When you always playing from behind, you tend to force a lot of things

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Here will be the interesting part...

Who loses their job over this? Like we all discussed earlier, how many defensive coordinators has this team let go for FAR less than this? This was the most embarrassing defensive performance by this team this year without question. In fact it trumps anything that happened last year.

I’d hate to see us turn over another coordinator so fast but there’s no reason whatsoever to perform like this and keep your job. Just none.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I will pack Slowik's bags and DRIVE him to where ever he wants to go...NO CHARGE!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Word. LOL

I wanted to be patient with the D all year and I was but there’s no way you keep your job after this. Heads are gonna roll. Peggy, put Mike on the couch until he gets this sorted out because another season like this and I am going to have a lot of trouble still believing in a certain someone, and I don’t want to go there.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Thats the thing MM, Mikey is Bi Polar...

He did such a good job with injuries and making things work with rookies, yet screwed the pooch on coaching staff and game planning when out “veterans” were back.
I question his evaluation of staff, and wonder if he hires people that hecan control and are not a threat to his fiefdom.
It is a strange dynamic!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Cant forget this game or it wont be motivation...

Shanny better be in Bowlen’s office tomorrow and they better be gfiving out and pink slips a plenty starting with Slowik.
Time to start building a D to match the O

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 28, 2008 9:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Word

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Also re evaluate the Strength and Conditioning staff, too many hamstring and groin injuries this year...

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Not a bad idea

Too many injuries period to be honest.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

despite what has happened Slowik has to go

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Priority in FA and Draft has to be Defense.

Picking up Haynesworth would be huge, his ability to collapse the pocket tends to make the DEs better…

by CombatChuk on Dec 28, 2008 9:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

our o was not the issue, how many times did our d stop them

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

come on boys, our d is horrendius

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

ous

by Northern_Bronco on Dec 28, 2008 9:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

I think Denver needs to

pick a damn defensive scheme and get the personnel for it in the draft and free agency. Stop this carousel of schemes, gimmicks, and idiot linebackers who overpursue. Nate Webster, Champ Bailey, and the D-Line have to go.

The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester

by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Post Game Thread is Up.....

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Dec 28, 2008 9:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

Defensive futility is on Shannahan as well

I know it is kind of taboo to talk about Shannahan and his job security around Denver, but he is the head football coach. The offense, defense, and ST falls in his lap as well. Right now, I would say definitively that Shanny is simply not getting it done. Has he lost his touch? I don’t know. I just don’t think his job security should be out of the question by any means.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs

As long as there is a Pat Bowlen

There will be a Mike Shannahan.

The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester

by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

I realize that.

I do. I know that Bowlen will never ever under any circumstance fire Shannahan. I just don’t know why more people don’t talk about it, that’s all.

by RyanBuff on Dec 28, 2008 9:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

There's been lots of talk about it

Both this season and last season, at least how I’ve seen it. But I absolutely agree that Shannahan should not just received a free pass to go on to the next season. He was part of the problem this season, no denying it.

The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester

by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

That was a waste of a 100th comment. Shucks…

The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester

by Greyson on Dec 28, 2008 9:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs

You are absolutely correct

I can’t imagine Slowik keeping his job at this point. But the buck stops at the top. Technically they finished better than last year but if we don’t see a real return to playoff contention next year you’re going to have a hard time convincing a lot of fans we have the right man running the show.

by TheMastermind on Dec 28, 2008 9:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs