'09 Draft: 12th Overall / 9 total picks, whattawedo?
by GJcontingent-rAd on Dec 29, 2008 3:48 PM MST
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The football season might be over but the draft season is upon us broncos country! We have the 12th pick in the first round. Our picks, by round, go:
1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 6th, 7th (9 total)
We also have a bunch of cap room, so let the free-agent speculation begin (given recent moves that may or may not be a good thing).
As I see it, we need to cut Nate Webster, get rid of Boss, Niko and a bunch of the other dead weight our roster and go to work. I see us needing: Safety, LB, DE, DT, RB. I trust Jim Goodman after our last several drafts, but I would trade down or trade Elvis for another 2nd round pick and go:
1. Safety: Mays or Chung - we need a physical, complete safety for run support and coverage, end of story;
2. D-Line - Passrusher who is good v. the run (DE or pocket-collapsing DT);
2. RB: CJ Spiller (look him up on Youtube - he's one of the best I've ever seen & should be there in the 2nd - fast, great hands, great kick-returner and would be a great change of pace back behind Hillis/Torain);
3. D-Line - Run-stopper (D-tackle or a physical D-end who can seal the edge and also rush the passer)
4. WR or TE - many disagree but we need depth at receiver (stoke is old, sheff & Jackson get hurt) - remember, Cutler is THE FRANCHISE, we gotta keep putting quality talent out there for him to throw to
4. LB or CB (depending on how the front office values Woodyard / Larsen / Jack Williams / Josh Bell - I'm about done with Dre, our highest paid player btw)
5. O-line (center/guard depending on what they plan to do with Lichtensteiger and Eslinger). Casey is old and we need a stud to anchor this young line
6. O-LIne, LB, DT (best availbel player)
6. Best player available for defense (preferably safety, D-line or LB)
7. Kicker - prater can't hit anything between 40 and 50 yards, his extra point fiasco. the bolts sealed it for me. I'm done with him. Bring in a belitnakov winner, pronto.
Fill remaining holes in free-agency!
This is just my take. What do you think Broncos Country?
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I desparately want either Peppers or Haynesworth in FA. We need at least one of those guys. My choice would be Peppers. Am I being too greedy by wanting both?
If we are gonna take a RB high ( which I don’t think we need), we need a true every down back, not a change-of-pace guy with the second pick. I think we already have a half-dozen of those. Hillis should start next year. I get excited thinking about what he can do with a training camp under his belt at RB and not FB.
After that, load up on the best available players at S, DT, DE with the first six picks. Draft an OL and WR using the last three picks.
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 29, 2008 4:09 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think Bly had a big cap number this year...
but next year his salary should be somewhere between 4-5million. I don’t know if that makes anyone feel any better about Dre Bly, but at least he wont be the highest paid player on the team.
by donbok1 on Dec 29, 2008 4:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
GJ...you hit the nail on the head with Spillers
That guy has some serious talent that can’t be taught and speed to burn!
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 4:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Oh God...
I will weep openly if we wait until late in the 4th round to address an LB corps with one spot (WILL) properly occupied, especially if we take an RB and WR/TE before that. If the first three choices aren’t MLB, S, and DT in some order, I’ll be upset. If we forego any decent defensive prospects for any sort of offensive player, I’ll be furious. I’m fed up with this nonsense where we feed an offense that is just about maxed out while virtually ignoring a defense and special teams that couldn’t be worse. Then again, Shenny and Co. can’t seem to determine what players on that side of the ball are any good, so…
Here we go again: http://thefulldeck.blogspot.com/
by ejruiz on Dec 29, 2008 4:32 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I'm sorry, I love Mays as much as anyone,
but the first pick cannot be a safety. We need to improve the front seven first and do everything we can to get Rey Maualuga with our first pick, imho.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 29, 2008 4:40 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I agree 100% with you ButteBronco
At 12 overall, we can move up to get Maualuga or stay put if he falls.
I think Denver goes MLB, RB (Spillers), DT, S, C, LB . In free agency hopefully we look at Peppers or Haynesworth and maybe even Jermaine Phillips the safety from Tampa Bay who is pretty good.
We need to draft defense the entire draft aside from round 2, which I want to land an impact RB.
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 5:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't understand the calls for a RB
Hillis can do the job, and very well. He has the combination of size, speed and toughness that we have longed for here for a long time. He’s bigger, faster and tougher than Mike Anderson, and he is not injury prone. That injury was one of the most freak injuries I have ever seen at the pro level (a karate kick to the knee by one defender that locks his leg and then another defender bends him over from behind so he can see his brass balls up close).
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 6:20 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I would agree...
I’m on the Hillis bandwagon here as well, singleback spread style offense w/Hillis.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 8:02 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Peyton Hillis,
but I think change of pace back who can be a top flight weapon out of the backfield, like CJ Spiller, would be a huge asset. Also, he was injury prone at Arkansas as he had a series of neck injuries (which is partially why he fell to us in the 7th round last year). In addition, Spiller is an amazing kick returner and, now that eddie is our #2 receiver, we need a weapon in the return game.
by GJcontingent-rAd on Dec 30, 2008 8:03 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As someone points out below...
Aldridge could potentially be that change of pace back??
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 8:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you guys are saying . . .
but watch spiller’s video on youtube (search CJ Spiller, it is the 3:28 video). He’s a gifted pass catcher, a good in between the tackles runner and he has unbelievable speed. He is one of the most elusive and smart backs I have ever seen on the college level and simply feel that him and hillis would be an unstoppable tandem. I know we have torain but that guy is way injury prone (always injured in college and played 1 half of football this year before blowing out his knee). Also, and remember that I love hillis, he had tons of neck problems while at Arkansas – one of the reasons he fell to us in the 7th last year.
by GJcontingent-rAd on Dec 30, 2008 8:12 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know who CJ Spiller is...
and yes he is a good player, but the musical running backs game is getting old and I can’t see using a pick as high as the 2nd round on anything but defense.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 8:41 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree . . . but
Fist, my wish to take spiller in the 2nd round is predicated upon us trading Elvis or DJ or someone and obtaining another 2nd round pick (look at my original post) If we only have 1 2nd round pick, I would tend to agree with you; although, I still wouldn’t be grumpy with shanny and Goodman if they took Spiller with our sole 2nd round pick.
Your point about the musical chair of running backs is well taken. That’s why part of me wants to take an RB high in the draft. Remember what happened last time we took a highend RB, Clinton Portis. If we still had him, this discussion is moot. I’m not saying that the Champ trade was bad for us. I’m just saying that it wouldn’t hurt to help solidify that position.
by GJcontingent-rAd on Dec 30, 2008 9:22 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no one is trading a 2nd for elvis
by purplesocks on Dec 30, 2008 11:35 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
At the beginning of the season Mark Schlereth made the statement...
On any good team Elvis is a situational player not an every down end…I think that is becoming apparent and your right no one in the league is going to give up a 2nd round pick straight up for a situational pass rusher.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 12:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
trade our best pass rusher
for a RB? I know he had a down year, but if we weren’t running the Hamburgler on the opposite end from him he may not be double teamed every down.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
by poorboywilly on Dec 30, 2008 11:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Elvis is not an everydown player and is WEAK v. the run
He is OUR best bassrusher, but we don’t rush the passer. That’s like saying I’m the best center on an all-guard intramural team. It’s not saying much. As stated above by denverjhawk et al, Elvis is not an everydown d-end. He’s a situational passrusher. We need big kiwanuka – type D-ends, not dudes that weigh less than the opposin QB. I love Elvis. I love his fight, but the SD game changed my perspective.
Anyone else have ideas as to who we could move? DJ “I’m too busy puting my glove on to make a tackle” Williams, maybe?
by GJcontingent-rAd on Dec 30, 2008 12:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know he had a neck injury in college
But we didn’t hear anything about that during the season. You don’t use a 2nd round pick on a change of pace back. Spiller may be more than that, but I truly believe Hillis can do the job. We have many more pressing needs than RB right now. If we were able to secure the services of Haynesworth AND Peppers/Suggs in FA, then I’m all for drafting a RB in the 2nd or 3rd.
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 1:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No. We don't need a running back. Hillis, Torain, and Pittman have proved to me that we don't need another running back! :)
by broncoholic on Dec 30, 2008 3:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
REPEAT AFTER ME
we don’t need a running back
Jason
The Hanging Curve
by poorboywilly on Dec 30, 2008 5:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Front seven improvement...
can vastly improve the play of your secondary…hell a great front four can make a decent corner look like a pro-bowl corner
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 29, 2008 5:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We dont need a MLB...we need a BEAST of a SLB and I would take Brina Cushing
Who filled in REALLY well at MLB when Rey was down, and has also had experience in a 3-4 as a pass rushing DE.
He has a lot more upside than Malauga…and I am a USC fan.
I would not be bummed if we got Rey, but Cushing is more versatile, polished and has less flaws. people speak of injury history, but he plays thru pain.
trust me on this guys, he is a beast and would be awesome in a Broncos jersey. I would like to see us go after mays or Patrick Chung at safety.
HAYNESWORTH will cahnge our team…he should be our big FA pick up, and if we got in the position for Nmandio, you would have to think about it.
Go low rounds for RB, and I would actually look long and hard at Michael Bush. Play Hillis at H Back, have Alridge , Bell and Torain and we are set.
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
by boydy2669 on Dec 29, 2008 6:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Boydy, listen to the first hit....turn it up
<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WyMRq-7SLA&feature=related”
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 6:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We need size, Cushing may be good but Rey is a big thumper
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 6:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WyMRq-7SLA&feature=related
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 6:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Cush in the first makes me cringe...
First off, I’m a huge Cushing fan too. The guy is a beast I agree. But I think the term “love is blind” applies here boydy. You can’t ignore Brian’s injury history. Play through pain? Absolutely, this kid is a gamer. No question on heart, desire, dedication, etc. But you would have to be just a little nervous on spending a first on this kid right? Especially if Rey, TMays and Laurinitis are still available, wouldn’t you? This isn’t like college ball where you make a bad decision on a scholarship, and just bring in someone new the next year to fix the mistake. Spending a first round pick on an injury prone LB after a year like we had this year, may be too much to ask this staff to do right now.
Cushing in the second round? Hell yeah, thats a steal. I’m all for it. But with our first pick I can only hope, for the player and staff both, that it is someone with a flawless injury history. You’ve seen the lack of patience fans around here have with JMoss. Less so than they have with RTorrain. Both had major injury problems in school, but Moss was a first round pick, and more is expected of him. Fair or not.
I agree 100% with you on everything else. Most people would agree Fat Albert is one of the top 15 game-changers in the game. Nnamdi? Same. Michael Bush? Stud. And my favorite, Patrick Chung. No games missed due to injury, special teams threat in the return game, and a huge hitter. Check out Chung blowing up two Michigan OL’s while blocking on an int return, on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAgUERW4VEg
by donbok1 on Dec 29, 2008 7:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Chung over Mays personally,
Chung reminds me of Ed Reed, ball hawk who can run and hit….
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 7:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't thing we go safety before round three though..here is CJ Spiller maybe in the 2nd
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 7:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I so hope you're wrong...
saftey is my favorite position on the field, and at #12 we should be in striking range of having our pick of the top three. I know we need help up front, but with Barrett coming around, it seems like a Smith/Atwater tandem is very possible with this class of safeties and our draft position. I’d rather go Maualuga, Chung, then DT in the third.
Chung reminds me more of Bob Sanders, and William Moore reminds me more of Ed Reed. Either way I’d be stoked to have any one of the Chung, Mays, or Moore collection on the team next year.
by donbok1 on Dec 29, 2008 8:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
donbok1, it's not that I don't value the position
I just see a gap when these will go in the draft and it will be between our 1st and 2nd…I think it would be better to target a player who immediately starts. Maualuga in the first, Spillers in the second, then draft defense the rest of the way, safety, DE whatever you want.
I am sorry but I am sold on a homerun hitting RB. I know our defense sucks bad, I am only asking for one player on offense, use the rest of FA, the draft, trades whatever, all on defense. But bring in a back that is a homerun hitter and let he and Hillis control the football.
Last night Denver was dominated in time of possesion in the first half. We need to control the clock, keep the defense fresh to utilize the speed of WW and DJ. With a running game everything changes, including the defense.
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 8:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand, and agree to a point...
I think the two easiest transitions to the pro game may be RB and LB. With your first round pick you would really hope for someone who can come in right away and contribute. Trust me after this year, I had dreams of Beanie Wells and Moreno running in orange and blue. But I think we both agree we should go defense in round one, and a stud lb would be the best transition player. Not many college safetys can come in and contribute in week one. The most exciting three safetys, imo, will be gone by round three, thats why I say I hope you’re wrong in us not picking one till the third. I totally understand your Spiller angle, but my hopes for a stud safety makes me hope we don’t get him, unless it’s in the fourth round. And in that case, I take back everything I said. ;)
by donbok1 on Dec 29, 2008 8:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
This draft is deep enough at running back that we both may win
Early Mocks show every first rounder I want gone by 12. Mauluaga at like 5-8, Mays is gone in most mocks in the top ten as well.
Maybe a DT in round one, Chung or Moore in Rd two ( if they are there) but what if Knowshon falls into our lap in round 2? Do you pull the trigger?
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 9:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
yes...
and trade the farm to get back into the second to get the best available defensive player. IMHO
by donbok1 on Dec 29, 2008 9:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely!!
Is it April yet?
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 9:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know...
this is alot more fun than talking about last night.
by donbok1 on Dec 29, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
A positive release of negative energy
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on Dec 29, 2008 9:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bok...this is not Cushing vs Rey. I think we have a bigger need at SLB, and Cushing is a better fit here and also if we go to 3-4. he brings more options to the table, and he will not go as high as Maluaga. I would take Rey in a heartbeat....
but I think Cushing is a better fit.
Chung is a special player and I wthink will go maybe even late 1st round.
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by boydy2669 on Dec 29, 2008 8:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
I think the MLB is a bigger need. He is the quarterback of the defense. Let me ask this question: Who would you rather have starting next year, Webster in the middle or Woodyard/Winborn on the strong side?
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 6:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Webter is done...
His contract is over. Winborn showed me something this year, enough that Boss can go. The thought of Webster in the middle again makes me sick.
Or so I'm told.
by MN Bronco on Dec 30, 2008 7:45 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
if I'm not mistaken isn't Woodyard considered more of a weakside backer, regardless...
I would really enjoy having a LB Corps of DJ Williams, Rey Maualuga, Woodyard
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by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 8:04 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
DJ/Rey/WW-- Yes please.
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by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 9:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
there it is.
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by kwool79 on Dec 30, 2008 9:40 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Front seven improvement
I firmly believe it starts with the run. I don’t think we will be able to to fix the defense in one year. We need to concentrate on improving our rush def and that starts with the front 7. MLB is key Laurinaitis or Spikes (we are not guaranteed 12th we could be at 15th) or a stud DT like Peria Jerry or BJ Raji. I agree with a RB in the second round. We need to complete the offense.
by mrwhite20 on Dec 29, 2008 6:11 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
denver won the tie breakers
It helps being in a crap division. Denver with the worse opponents winning % has claimed the #12 spot
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by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 29, 2008 7:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Cushing over Maualuga...
NO way we’re better off with Cushings compared to Maualuga as our MLB. If we could pick up Cushing in the 2nd as our OLB then I’d be on board. I would rather have Laurinitis than Cushing. But we absolutely need to pick a MLB with our 1st pick. Id rather see Shonn Greene as our RB. We need a stud RB. Even though we have a power rusher already w/Hillis, so another RB like Torain/Greene/Spillers would be a great compliment. We will use Alridge to be our version of Darren Sproyles.
I woudl also like to see us pick up Bj Raji as our #1 DT to go along w/Carlton Powell and company. Not to mention we must pick up Peppers/Suggs to enhance our outside (off the edge) pressure.
Hogblog...aka KSM
by Hogblog on Dec 29, 2008 7:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Not syaing Cushing as MLB, I am saying Cushing as SLB...
He is more versatlie than Rey, and filled in for him admirably when Rey was injured. DJ Williams will be moved back to MLB…nothing surer.
WW will be weakside and they will bring in a monster like Cushing at SLB.
PS: I love Rey, but I dont think MLB is as big as a concern as SLB.
Those that cant coach, compete!
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by boydy2669 on Dec 29, 2008 8:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
what about Winborn?
he’s been pretty solid.
by donbok1 on Dec 29, 2008 8:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No way....
Winborn is a great back up at ALL LB positions, but Cushing brings size, is a superior rusher, gets in the back field and creates havoc.
WIth DJ and WW, we have a great mix of youth passion and power.
DJ’s best position is MLB.
As I said, I will be jumping thru the roof if we get Rey too, but I feel SLB is a bigger need. Hey, but I am DEFINIELY no expert.
Anyway, GO TROJANS against PSU.
After the Broncos, Trojans are my team (my wife went to college there!)
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
by boydy2669 on Dec 29, 2008 8:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
Cush is a special talent. Just saying I personally wouldn’t spend the #12 pick on him. Now if I could trade down ten spots, pick up an extra third rounder, and Cushing with the #22 pick? Oh hell yeah.
by donbok1 on Dec 29, 2008 9:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
DJ's best position is MLB???
Really? I thought DJ looked and played very tentatively at MLB last year. He looked great at SLB as a rookie… if we move him anywhere, its back to SLB (which he won’t like).
WW is kinda too small to consistently fight through the blocks at SLB. He’s best at WLB.
We have no one that is starter capable at MLB (Webster is gawdawful, and Niko is ST depth only). Therefore MLB has to be the priority for the draft, or SLB if you want to move WW to strong safety/nickel LB/WLB depth.
Now, the nice thing is if we get some depth/talent at D-line and Safety (and FB?), we have another possibility for the short-term…. We could move Larsen back to MLB. He will never be a star… but he looked serviceable there (better than anyone else this year). His big liability is lack of speed in coverage, but with improved pass rush and WW, DJ and/or another new OLB he could be a one-year stopgap. He’d come out in nickel/dime situations anyway.
by cjfarls on Dec 30, 2008 10:43 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
DJ - Not a Sam as a rookie
He started on Will and was moved, against his wishes, to Sam when we lost Ian Gold. He eventually flourished, but didn’t like it. He did eventually like Mike and disliked being moved again. He has publicly stated that he’s now fine with it, but one site has published statements that he would be happier at Mike, i don’t nknow about that – other than this site’s belief, I haven’t heard him say anything recently.
He did say, earlier this year, that he thought that he’d grown into Mike and would do well, but that was before the most recent move had sunk in.
Jim Goodman for Broncos MVP!
by Emmett Smith on Dec 30, 2008 1:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
With the cap space and 9 picks,
at least on in every round, we better get some solid defensive players.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 29, 2008 8:41 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
IMHO offense and defence start with the lines...
With that in mind, as much as I love the LB and safety positions, I think we need to look at a huge run stuffing DL. I don’t know any of these college players like you guys do, I’m in Canada after all, but there’s gotta be someone we can take in the first round that can improve this line immediately? Look at what Clady did for the O-line. With a strong front four occupying the offenses line, our fast linebackers would be able to fly around to the ball. Then we can play 2 deep safety’s for coverage over the middle.
I’m not a football expert, but I’m learning more every day on this site. Thanks for hearing me out.
by CalgaryFan on Dec 29, 2008 9:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Terrence Cody from Alabama fits the bill
He’s bigger than Jamal Williams, and quick for his size. He was projected to go middle to late first round a month or so ago, however.
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 6:31 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
The only problem is that will take patience. DT’s just take a year or 2 or more before they become game changers. Look at the big names from last year, Ellis and the guy from LSU. They started and played all season, but made little noise. Are they busts? Not necessarily, just young. I still think we should go high at DT, that’s my favorite call, but we’ll have to be patient. I think Thomas could make more of an impact next year and would be thrilled to see him next to Haynesworth in the meantime.
Or so I'm told.
by MN Bronco on Dec 30, 2008 7:51 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
First, DT is a position that takes 2 years to develop in. We need an immediate impact guy. Second, if we do take a DT in th first round, Mount Cody is the wrong guy. He is a 3-4 guy like a vince wilfork, not a 4-3 guy. If we take Cody in the first, that means that Slowik and shanny are going to a 3-4, which isn’t necessarily he wrong move. I’m simply pointing out that clamouring for Cody is clamouring for a shift from 4-3 to 3-4.
by GJcontingent-rAd on Dec 30, 2008 8:07 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd agree that moving to a 3-4 has it's strong side, with the right NT
However, the discussion on Cody is academic untill he comes out. As of last week he hadn’t – haven’t heard since then. News?
Jim Goodman for Broncos MVP!
by Emmett Smith on Dec 30, 2008 2:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Much easier
for a nose tackle in the 3-4 to move to a tackle in the 4-3 than the other way around. Don’t just assume he’s a 3-4 nose guard, this guy has the size and talent to play either one. Broncobear makes a good point about his availability. Personally I believe he will come out due to the fact that he would be a first round pick.
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 2:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
3 new additions and Ben Hamilton's return did that my man.
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by kwool79 on Dec 30, 2008 9:50 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're kidding about Chung with the 12th pick...
We could EASILY get him in the 2nd as of now, figuring he’s either the 3rd or 4th best safety.
Ideally I’d go something like this:
1. MLB – Laurinaitis [2nd option – Mays]
2. DT – There’s a slew of guys, one of whom might be available here (Marks, Cody, Raji, Jerry). [2nd option – Chung or best defensive player available]
Then essentially best player available from there on out..only taking offensive players if they are great values.
by SethGrandpa on Dec 29, 2008 10:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Throwing names out there.
- Peppers and/or Haynesworth should be #1 priority.
- Imagine a thunder & lightning approach with Hillis and Darren Sproles.
- Ray Lewis at MLB for a year or two?
- Bring in a FA kicker or two to compete in camp with Prater.
In my opinion, every draft pick should be DEFENSE. If we go offense it should be in rounds 6 or 7 to try and find a Hillis-type gem. The offense isn’t the problem, no need to waste resources on it this year.
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by coffee on Dec 30, 2008 7:01 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good to me.
Except our Lightning won’t be Sproles, it’ll be Alridge. IMO, we’ve got a glut at RB. Hillis, Torain as the main tandem with Alridge as the Sproles-type change of pace. Larsen at FB and I’d try to keep Pittman if his neck is OK because he is the ultimate team-first veteran to influence these kids.
Or so I'm told.
by MN Bronco on Dec 30, 2008 7:54 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Again.. Brian Cushings vs Rey Maualuga?
I’d love to grab both these guys, but even though it’s been stated that Cushings could project as MLB, Rey Maualuga is THE MLB in this years draft. Not far behind are Laurinitis/Spikes (Both would do well). Rey is the one I believe could be the next Al Wilson type, and his effort and style of play, along with WW would really take the level of execution to another level. Add in the potential of Haynesworth up front, then all of the sudden Thomas/Robertson just became 2X better. Even may I suggest if we position WW @ SS along w/Barrett, then that potentially frees up the draft and allows us to focus on a top CB/RB. Woodyard could be a very good safety. However after this year, I believe WW, like Hillis is a player who can play anywhere and excel. Yes, Im very biased for WW.
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by Hogblog on Dec 30, 2008 10:17 AM MST reply actions 0 recs
We don't need a RB. We have plenty of talent in the running game.
by broncoholic on Dec 30, 2008 1:00 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, not enough this year.
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by kwool79 on Dec 30, 2008 1:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
O lawd
If I ever stop being lazy, I’ll have an enormous draft preview up in a few weeks. This is my time to come out of the woodwork and subject you all to my draft nerdness. Game on, fellas.
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by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 30, 2008 2:29 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
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