Shanahan Out
National Football Post is reporting that Shanahan has been fired. I don't really know what to add to get to the 75 word minimum except to say that I'm more than a little shocked. I've been following this team since the days of Mickey Slaughter, John McCormick (sp?), etc. and this has to rank right up there with signing Elway . . . if true. Anyone care to speculate on just who might be candidates - I don't think Cowher is an option.
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Need a source
I haven’t seen anything yet… If this isn’t smoke, then this is a huge story. It reminds me of when they fired Dan Reeves. I was shocked when that happened as well…
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:13 PM MST
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Mike Lombardi writes for these guys, and he has Denver insiders
looks like this could be true
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008/12/breaking-news-shanahan-out-in-denver/
The National Football Post has just been informed that Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan and his coaching staff have been fired. More on this story as it develops.
by KevinJames3 on
Dec 30, 2008 3:21 PM MST
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Adam Schefter Reporting as Well Now
http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/12/30/broncos-fire-long-time-coach-shanahan/
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:22 PM MST
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MHR Radio tonight?
So we might as well assume Slo’s head is next to roll. Wow, shake up of epic proportions!
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:23 PM MST
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Cowher's salary demand just skyrocketed!
Not saying he’s our guy, but the market for him just got bigger. I wonder if Bowlen felt he had to pull the trigger now while his team was still relatively young and bring in someone who could put their stamp on this team. I just hope this was a calculated decision and not an emotional knee-jerk reaction to losing on Sunday.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:26 PM MST
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I am shocked
Just completely shocked. I don’t know how you fire a guy when there aren’t clearly better options out there.
"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy
by TedBartlett905 on
Dec 30, 2008 3:29 PM MST
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Wow...
I’m speechless (for once).
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:30 PM MST
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I just got a text from CBS4DENVER...
…saying the same thing. MY GOD…
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by sirsam on
Dec 30, 2008 3:31 PM MST
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Looks like the Broncos know how to give MHR something to talk about after the season ended
Time to start speculating! Could it be Kyle Shanahan? Just kidding (sort of). I wonder if anyone has checked to see if Shanny is simply moving up to a front office position ala Bill Parcells…
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:32 PM MST
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Two Words:
Bob Slowick
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:33 PM MST
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Hell No
He’s a goner.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:37 PM MST
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It was a joke.
Sorry, probably shouldn’t be doing that right now.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:38 PM MST
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Who the hell is gonna take over now?!! Who do we have in mind?
by broncoholic on
Dec 30, 2008 3:34 PM MST
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oh please god no!
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:38 PM MST
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He's already interviewing in Cleveland
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas" - FlaBronco
by DesertBroncoFan on
Dec 30, 2008 3:51 PM MST
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WOW.
I Just got a txt message and was absolutly SHOCKED tosay the least.
I figured he would still be the head coach and not the executive VP. Well, the shit has hit the fan.
Now this will be one interesting offseason.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on
Dec 30, 2008 3:36 PM MST
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Oops - sorry I missed this thread
Else I wouldn’t have started the other… I wanted to see if you guys were shocked by the move, and it looks like you are.
I just can’t believe it.
www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on
Dec 30, 2008 3:36 PM MST
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We went from chocking the division to this.
What a way to end the season.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on
Dec 30, 2008 3:37 PM MST
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Not shocked...
If any of you lived through the Dan Reeves firing, this doesn’t come as too much of a surprise. Bowlen, if memory serves, fired Reeves after he took the Broncos to the Conference Championship and lost. I think Bowlen is trying to cut his losses now and take a chance on moving the organization in another direction.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:37 PM MST
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He is acting out of frustration. We're screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by broncoholic on
Dec 30, 2008 3:38 PM MST
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He's not
I’ll defend Bowlen. He’s not some petulant owner ala Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones.
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by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:40 PM MST
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I agree, Bowlen I think has seen a team that gave up too many times
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:41 PM MST
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nothing wrong...just moving in another direction
Shanny got the team 2 championships.. he has left us—offensively—better off… time for someone else to pull a “shanny” and get this team back to glory
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM MST
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Boy I can't wait to hear TSG take on MHR Radio.
That will be on show you won’t want to miss.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on
Dec 30, 2008 3:39 PM MST
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this makes no sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
would the successer be jeremy bates? cutler really likes him
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:40 PM MST
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Dialed up 1043 the fan...
Alfred talking about it now. I can’t beleive it.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:40 PM MST
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Man, oh man, Pat Bowlen, you are a stud!
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:40 PM MST
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concur...
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:45 PM MST
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Holy...Living...F
"Let's get this thing fired up" - 'Deuce' Shanahan
by Colorado_Kitten on
Dec 30, 2008 4:01 PM MST
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11 AM press conference tomorrow
be there or be square
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by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:41 PM MST
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I think we go...
…for a defensive minded Head Coach. We already have all the core pieces needed for the offense…
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by sirsam on
Dec 30, 2008 3:41 PM MST
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I don't think that works...
Billick in Baltimore comes to mind…
Bring in an offensive guy. Urban Meyer? Maybe Mike and Urban switch jobs.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:44 PM MST
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I'd take Urban
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:45 PM MST
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Well all you Shanny haters, you got what you wanted. So tell me who takes over now?!
by broncoholic on
Dec 30, 2008 3:42 PM MST
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Cowher!
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:42 PM MST
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I don't see Cowher as the answer
again, this was a Bowlen decision. He’s not some rook owner looking to make “headlines” for the sake of making headlines. He wants a leader to run this team and take advantage of our number 1 asset, Jay Cutler. Again, I see so many parallels to the Dan Reeves firing it’s not even funny. If that’s the case, then Wade Phillips is coming home (just kidding). :)
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:47 PM MST
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so do u think the replacement is Jermemy Bates
Id be fine with it as long as we get a new guy to run the defense
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:52 PM MST
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Agreed
For all those wanting this, let’s see how you’re swallowing now. I’m shellshocked to say the least.
I can only hope PB did something this forthright and so quickly while having someone in position to jump in RIGHT AWAY.
This could set us back a good 2-4 years if he hasn’t already.
by pshin8670 on
Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM MST
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Cowher, hope you like Denver
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:42 PM MST
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It is an attractive job,
but maybe he would be a NYC guy. We’ll see.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:45 PM MST
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Maybe he stays on as GM/VP of Operations?
by CombatChuk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:42 PM MST
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Bill parcells gang what do you think of that ?
by broncosfaninphilly on
Dec 30, 2008 3:42 PM MST
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+1
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM MST
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no, hell no
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:47 PM MST
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DEAR SHIT!
WTF is going on at Dove Valley?!
by binford04 on
Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM MST
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I got to belive that Bowlen knows that he has someone lined up, someone big.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM MST
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I agree
As shocked as I am, there is no way that Bowlen made this move without knowing which direction he is going after this.
Like others had said before, who do we get that is better? Bowlen must have the answer since he cut Shanny loose.
"If you don't know where your going you might find yourself somplace else."
by BroncoJoe87 on
Dec 30, 2008 3:50 PM MST
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I don't like it....
I hate to lose the continuity we had with the offense. Though I don’t disagree that Shanahan seems to have lost his edge as far as motivating guys and preparing them mentally.
"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason."
The Shanahan
by Broncs Cheer on
Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM MST
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Maybe Shanny will replace Tom Cable in Oakland !
"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason."
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by Broncs Cheer on
Dec 30, 2008 3:43 PM MST
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I just don't see Shanny EVER working for Al again
…or Al hiring him again. That hate runs too deep.
"Let's get this thing fired up" - 'Deuce' Shanahan
by Colorado_Kitten on
Dec 30, 2008 4:05 PM MST
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lions? Browns?
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:45 PM MST
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I think Shanny probably will be at Norte Dame
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:44 PM MST
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im in favor of the following possiblities
cower. bates. paarcells group. some u guys might be like Bates!?! well he is cutler favorite coach and they get along. Just like when reeves was fired shanny was elways guy.
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:44 PM MST
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Parcells would kill Cutler
Parcells isn’t a QB coach. Doesn’t care for them and most certainly will not build a team around them. No to Parcells. Hate that arrogant ass.
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by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:48 PM MST
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im just saying for the position he has in miam right now.
he would hire one of his guys and build a great defense
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:51 PM MST
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Why?
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:45 PM MST
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He said he wouldn't be coaching in 09
by broncoholic on
Dec 30, 2008 3:46 PM MST
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Money Talks...
these guys always say that shit.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:46 PM MST
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Who says he's not going to the Jets?
by broncoholic on
Dec 30, 2008 3:47 PM MST
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Why would he want to go there
Horrible media poor quality of life and Bowlen can pay him more
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:48 PM MST
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Maybe Mike will be in NYC???
With Shanny on the market Cower isn’t the best candidate out there anymore.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:49 PM MST
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Shanny is a future HOF guy...
"Let's get this thing fired up" - 'Deuce' Shanahan
by Colorado_Kitten on
Dec 30, 2008 4:07 PM MST
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Lots of people say lots of things
Shanny said we would be in the playoffs
Parcells said he retired from coaching three times
Saben said he wasn’t going to coach in Alabama
Money does a funny thing to people
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:47 PM MST
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Yeah, why not?
He was the first name that came to mind.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on
Dec 30, 2008 3:50 PM MST
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But the question is, will he come?
by broncoholic on
Dec 30, 2008 3:50 PM MST
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Hey you never know.
The offseason has just begun.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on
Dec 30, 2008 3:52 PM MST
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The chin will be in!
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:45 PM MST
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when do you think they will make the replacement announcement ?
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Dec 30, 2008 3:46 PM MST
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soon hopefully
we need a plan….FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:47 PM MST
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I am guessing Bowlen has a silent deal with someone
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:48 PM MST
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cower or parcells hopefully
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:49 PM MST
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Cohwer, I would love this on our sidelines

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:50 PM MST
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Seriously?
I’m not a big fan.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:51 PM MST
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Cowher is Shanny only Pittsburgh style
I wouldn’t lose sleep over his hiring but let’s no deceive ourselves into thinking he’s some sort of god of coaching. He had one hell of a front office who got him great players year in and year out.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:52 PM MST
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What I think is he got great perfromance out of his guys year in and year out
Personnel wise, they really weren’t that more talented, most Pittsburgh guys leave that system and struggle.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:55 PM MST
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GAH!!
I was wondering when this press conference was gonna happen today
by binford04 on
Dec 30, 2008 3:48 PM MST
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If Pat Bowlen is acting this stupid, who says he won't hire Rod Miranelli?
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Dec 30, 2008 3:49 PM MST
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Man, you guys must be young
Bowlen isn’t an idiot.
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Dec 30, 2008 3:50 PM MST
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Agree, Bowlen has been more than patient, enough is enough
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:51 PM MST
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never said Shanny was an idiot
he’s just worn out his time here. nothing personal. We should consider ourselves happy that we don’t do the coaching carousel every year ala the Redskins, Jets, Chiefs, Lions, etc.
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Dec 30, 2008 3:53 PM MST
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Parcells or Kubiak
Either one of them is the only thing better than Mike Shanahan. I think Bowlen knows that.
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on
Dec 30, 2008 3:50 PM MST
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Not sure about Parcells
however I would love to have Kubiak back. I bet he is stunned like the rest of the league.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
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Dec 30, 2008 3:51 PM MST
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Koobs ain't going anywhere
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Dec 30, 2008 3:53 PM MST
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I know......just wishfull thinking
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
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Dec 30, 2008 3:55 PM MST
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Me too....that would rock!
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by Colorado_Kitten on
Dec 30, 2008 4:09 PM MST
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money talks and Bowlen
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on
Dec 30, 2008 3:55 PM MST
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Holmgren?
Darren Bennett... check
Ben Graham... check
Sav Rocca... check
Now if only we can find an Australian who can run and tackle in the NFL and show these Yanks what we're made of.
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Dec 30, 2008 3:51 PM MST
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I hope not!
He’s lost his edge more than Shanny… Maybe we need a young up-and-comer?
"You're slow. You're not a running back, and you're not a running back for a reason."
The Shanahan
by Broncs Cheer on
Dec 30, 2008 3:52 PM MST
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As out head chef?
I don’t want that fat turd anywhere near our team
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by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 3:54 PM MST
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I don't think Gary would do that.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
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Dec 30, 2008 3:52 PM MST
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Jeremy Bates is the closestthing to Kubiak we have right now
wouldnt be surprised if he is the new guy
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by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:54 PM MST
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No way. Bates is way too young.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 3:55 PM MST
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how old was shanny when he got the job????
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by broncoboy on
Dec 30, 2008 3:59 PM MST
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This is
Easily the biggest sports story since the Super Bowls. Holy balls I’m still in shock
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Dec 30, 2008 3:51 PM MST
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Pete Carrol?
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
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Dec 30, 2008 3:52 PM MST
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He was terrible in the NFL
and he’s such a great colleg coach. I don’t see it.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
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Dec 30, 2008 3:53 PM MST
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Urban Meyer.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
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Just a thought
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
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by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:56 PM MST
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I can't believe it
KUBIAK COME ONE BACK!! And bring Mario Williams with you!!
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
by Steve O' on
Dec 30, 2008 3:52 PM MST
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Bowlen has a plan...he wouldn't have done this on a whim...The TUNA or Kubiak
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE when everything is lost that doesn't surrender
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Dec 30, 2008 3:54 PM MST
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agree...just hope it's not the tuna
and why would the tuna leave anyway? He’s not done rebuilding Miami.
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Shocking
To say I am shocked would be an understatement. My question is: can current head coaches switch jobs? I am thinking of Kubiak in Houston.
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Dec 30, 2008 3:55 PM MST
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The real reason Shanny got fired
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Mike nolan former 49 ers coach
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I like Mike Nolan
as a DEF COORD. Not a head coach
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This is the absolute dumbest F'ing thing I've ever heard.
I am in shock!!!
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
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It was going to happen sooner or later
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
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Some guy on the radio just said "Bring Martyball to Denver" LOL
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
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Kubiak is not going anywhere
Where is Shanny going to go now? Is he going to head coach? Coordinate?
SO MANY QUESTIONS!
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Yeah, Kubs makes no sense to me. He already has a job and is very close with Mike.
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He will get another HC job, guaranteed
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 3:57 PM MST
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Probably go to Cleveland. A reversal for all the Brownies we traded for.
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take some time off...
I could see him waiting for the Florida position to open
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You would think there would have been a warning
or at least rumors to him being fired.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
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this is exactly how it happened when reeves got axed
it came out of left field.
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grab a beer and chug!
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Statement from Pat Bowlen
Denver Broncos Owner Pat Bowlen today relieved Mike Shanahan from his position as Executive Vice President of Football Operations/Head Coach of the National Football League team, effective immediately.
Broncos owner Pat Bowlen issued the following statement: "After giving this careful consideration, I have concluded that a change in our football operations is in the best interests of the Denver Broncos. This is certainly a difficult decision, but one that I feel must be made and which will ultimately be in the best interests of all concerned."
Bowlen added, "I appreciate the 21 years that Mike Shanahan has given to the organization as an assistant and head coach, and the two Super Bowl wins in that time. His contributions hold a special place in Broncos history."
Pat Bowlen will hold a press conference at the Denver Broncos’ headquarters on Wednesday at 11 a.m., and Mike Shanahan will meet the press shortly thereafter.
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I guess that answers my question from above.
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas" - FlaBronco
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Dec 30, 2008 3:59 PM MST
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You guys hear that?
It’s the sound of the Broncos plummeting into another decade of football obscurity.
This is dumb. Get ready for a decade of coaching musical chairs.
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Totally disagree
we suffered through 1 head coache following reeves (Fat Wade). We’ll be fine
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Dec 30, 2008 4:00 PM MST
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Denver hasn't been relevent since the Super Bowls
One playoff win, three strait years of missing the playoffs, sorry, can’t rest on your laurels all the time. Even the greats run their coarse.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 4:01 PM MST
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Could Shanny be staying on as GM?
or is he completely gone from the team?
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
"Superman wears Peyton Hillis pajamas" - FlaBronco
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Completly gone.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
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Dec 30, 2008 3:59 PM MST
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I was just slowly getting over the chock-job
we did and now I have to deal with this.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
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Dec 30, 2008 3:58 PM MST
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They're saying on the radio that Bowlen has someone, but they didn't say who.
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Dec 30, 2008 4:00 PM MST
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So now we have to wait til tomorrow.
The suspense will kill me……..if he does have someone.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
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by weazel on
Dec 30, 2008 4:17 PM MST
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You know what...its all about complacancy
its like dumping your ex….hard to do, because she knows everything about you (the organization), but in the end, the great days you had, are no longer there…and you can’t keep thinking about the summer of ’98…
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Hit it on the head
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 4:02 PM MST
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Pat Bowlen, tough choice but I think it was the right one
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
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bowlen is a real owner with a real sense for timing...
I really think this has to do with capitalizing off of Cutler window as a rising star. I think he regrets the “lost years” Elway suffered under Reeves. Not that Cutler’s numbers aren’t great under Shanny, but our offense hasn’t been the same for quite some time.
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by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 4:02 PM MST
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That has to be the hardest decision he has had to make.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
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Dec 30, 2008 4:02 PM MST
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I hope Bowlen has someone in mind
because we have a VERY important draft coming where we need to fix our defense.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
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Concur...
Remember though, Jim Goodman and Brian Xanders are still on board in the front office serving in a GM/GM-like capacity. I think they’ll just assume complete GM duties and will make the decisions come draft/FA time.
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Dec 30, 2008 4:04 PM MST
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Let's not forget
We have won ONE playoff game in the past decade. I don’t understand why there are shock waves going through this thread. How is this move anything but expected? This is in the best interest of the team. He is a well-respected Superbowl Coach who needs to move on.
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How about one of these guys??
Steve Spagnuolo
Josh McDanials
Urban Meyer
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
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Meyer is the only guy that I know, what are the other two?
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I would kill for Spags
the D-coorninator of the Giants
Random quotes about the raiders:
They really shouldn’t play — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
This is an utter disaster — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!
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Dec 30, 2008 4:04 PM MST
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Spagnuolo is NYG's DC, McDanials is the Pats young OC.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
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Coaches
Mike Heimerdinger would provide some offensive continuity. Personally, I like Kubiak, but I’d like to see some real power football in Denver. But that kind of change would really set us back. We need an offensive head coach or will will lose the entire base of our program. Sen Payton might be ready to leave NO. Jason Garrett is hot but Jones won’t let him leave and will probably make him the head coach this off-season. Please no College coaches!!!
Orangeman
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When you mentioned
college coaches, I immediately thought of Mike Leach from Texas Tech. Everyone has been wondering whether his all-out aerial attack would work in the NFL. Jay Cutler is just the guy to try it. I just HATE the idea. I hope it’s not Leach. I want running game and D to set up the throws. I don’t like Bates’ decision to go to the air for the rest of the game when one running play doesn’t work. What do I know? It may have been Shanny making the play calls the whole time.
I am nervous. I dislike inconsistency. But, I guess something has to change when you are consistently NOT winning.
This was sure ballsy of Bowlen.
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
by HarvJNep2n on
Dec 30, 2008 4:14 PM MST
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Just a theory
I’m going to wildly speculate and guess that Bowlen insisted on bringing in some high level defensive coordinator/consultant or something similar to bring as much passion, and more importantly, judge of defensive football talent as Mike brings to the offensive side of things – and Mike refused. I think the time and Mike’s lack of balance with respect to the defense and especially special teams (always an afterthought IMHO) were his downfall.
It's "just" football
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Anybody else think that we just fired San Diego's new HC?
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No, he won't go there because he won't have control, AJ Smith runs that team and Shanahan wants control
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
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Ugh
And it’ll be the raider-hate in reverse?
Yikes!
I hope Shanny gets the heck out og the AFC!
Random quotes about the raiders:
They really shouldn’t play — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
This is an utter disaster — Chris Collinsworth (12/5/08)
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!
by Claus Vestergaard on
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A move to KC perhaps, but not SD
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Dec 30, 2008 4:07 PM MST
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Maybe, but I don't see it
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"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 4:07 PM MST
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either do I, just saying he's more likely to go there than SD
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by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 4:34 PM MST
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you're smoking crack
WE ARE NOT the fing raiders. Shanny will get paid, has been shown the utmost respect by Bowlen and will remain close to the franchise.
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I still think he ends up in Norte Dame
He is a midwest guy, less pressure, huge contract, all the control he could ever want.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 4:06 PM MST
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He would be given a king's ransom too!
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Dec 30, 2008 4:06 PM MST
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Probably not,
but if he goes to NYJ or something, watch out!! This man knows how to hold a grudge.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
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Dec 30, 2008 4:08 PM MST
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That's what scars me if he coaches somewhere else.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
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Dec 30, 2008 4:09 PM MST
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true...but why
would he hold a grudge. If he does, he doesn’t understand life. He had a great run. Time to move on.
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Dec 30, 2008 4:10 PM MST
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I would like...
I have no idea, but a Mike Tomlin-esque coach would be nice. It’s time to get Denver back into some smash mouth hard nose football. I guess we shall see.
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Dec 30, 2008 4:05 PM MST
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Orange Crush remix!
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Tomlin in my favorite coach in the NFL right now...
clone the man!
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
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Whoa!!!!
I would hae seen it coming in past years but this one came as a surprise!
"There's one thing I want you to do for me. Win. Win!" - Rocky II
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Wow wow wow wow wow
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/12/30/shanahan.ap/index.html?bcnn=yes
Broncos without Shanahan? I’m stunned. I’m shocked. Bowlen better have someone already lined up and a real plan in place.
That being said, I can understand the move…it makes sense and I think the problem is that Shanny had too much control and no backing down from his control over the defensive side of things.
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
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yep.
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Dec 30, 2008 4:08 PM MST
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Why, we won before Shanny got here and we will win after, life goes on
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 4:09 PM MST
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uhhhhm...
No we didn’t.
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really, seems to me we went to a few Super Bowls before he got here
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and won exactly none of them.
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by PosterNutbag on
Dec 30, 2008 4:18 PM MST
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Any chance that Denver can vote as a city to keep Shanny and replace Bowlen?
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Pat Bowlen for mayor!
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
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by Broncoman on
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Video proves reason for firing
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Yeah, saw that. GROSS
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
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Dec 30, 2008 4:10 PM MST
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That was nasty
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
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Dec 30, 2008 4:11 PM MST
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Wow.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
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Well i can atleast say this.....
DENVER IS DEFINETLY THE MOST ATTRACTIVE JON IN THE NFL RIGHT NOW!!!!!
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
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Dec 30, 2008 4:10 PM MST
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Marty Marty He's our man!
Marty Schottenheimer! Yeah Baby!
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At least he wouldnt get beaten by denver anymore
Darren Bennett... check
Ben Graham... check
Sav Rocca... check
Now if only we can find an Australian who can run and tackle in the NFL and show these Yanks what we're made of.
by orange&blue_aussie on
Dec 30, 2008 4:12 PM MST
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LOL!
"Let's get this thing fired up" - 'Deuce' Shanahan
by Colorado_Kitten on
Dec 30, 2008 4:27 PM MST
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it's just a vid of shanny picking his nose and eating his booger
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He will go to Cleveland where he will get complete control....100%
They are talent laden, and need his experience to steer that ship…
We need Cowher….the offence needs minimal tweaking, wheras he speciality lies in the Defence…it would alos give Cowher that team (which not far far great success – a proven QB, and 7 RB’s wink)
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does anyone else remember it took cowher forever and a day to win a SB????
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Dec 30, 2008 4:13 PM MST
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True, but his teams were always in the playoffs and kicking ass
Give him a QB and he would of gotten it done a lot sooner, but when you are starting the likes of Bubby Brister, Neil O’Donnel, Kordell Stewart, Tommy Maddox it’s a tough road to hoe. Think what he could do with our offense and bringing a kick ass defense
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Dec 30, 2008 4:15 PM MST
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I'm not hating on him, but fans always jump on the "old coach who's won"
out of familiarity (IMO). I’m just saying, the old greats second time around isn’t always a success (yes, even the beloved Tuna couldn’t win again, Gibbs (LOL), Seifert, etc etc…
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by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 4:19 PM MST
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Agreed. I bet Shanny goes to Cleveland.
"Let's get this thing fired up" - 'Deuce' Shanahan
by Colorado_Kitten on
Dec 30, 2008 4:28 PM MST
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Who's the next coach?
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I want someone relatively young, smart and full of piss and vinegar!!!!
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What the percentage of piss to vinegar?
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by Broncoman on
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Troy Calhoun
Just throwing it out there.
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Does this extend the road to the SB?
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no
we can’t make the assessment right now, esp without knowing who our coach and perhaps even our GM will be (although I don’t see our GM dudes getting fired).
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this is going to change a lot. Are we going to continuewith the smaller quicker lineman for the zone blocking scheme. Defense was going to be a question mark anyways. Are we still going to have a defensive oriented draft? The list could go on and on…
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and on and on...
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nope
we will contend! i think bowlen will get a guy to fix the defense. thats all we are missing, a defense. If that is in place in the next couple years, we are exactly where we want to be.
"You play to win the game!"- Herm Edwards
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+1, Bring some attitude
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if cower is gonna go anywhere, its gonna be here
the jets are a mess. cower brings attitude and can make this defense elite. the broncos are just a defense away from a championship. if i were him, i would want this job over the jets
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I gotta beleive Cowher would love to be here
He would have the resources, Bowlen is willing to pay for guys, Pittsburgh are cheap. Nice climate, great fan base, great city, great place to settle and retire, and a good tradition, loyal owner who doesn’t over-react.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
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by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 4:22 PM MST
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its the ideal footabll city!!!
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by broncoboy on
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So what rebuilding year are we in now?
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
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Like I said in my "simulpost"
Year one of a ?? rebuild.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 4:19 PM MST
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I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on
Dec 30, 2008 4:20 PM MST
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it was way to early....
to make this decision, given the way everything unfolded…I think Pat may have jumped the gun here..
by Northern_Bronco on
Dec 30, 2008 4:18 PM MST
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As much as I think so too
You win 1 playoff game in 10 years……
Blow a three game division lead….
Coaches have been fired for much less.
by binford04 on
Dec 30, 2008 4:20 PM MST
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true
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on
Dec 30, 2008 4:21 PM MST
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apparently,
It DOES dissipate. You may need to change your tag line! LOL
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
by HarvJNep2n on
Dec 30, 2008 4:22 PM MST
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Probably, since he isn't with Denver anymore.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on
Dec 30, 2008 6:53 PM MST
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I'm having fun reacting, but as it sets in I'm bummed.
I can’t beleive this shit. A couple thoughts:
1) Year three of a five year rebuild turned in to year one of a ?? rebuild (one year, fife years, who knows).
2) With the Rooney rule in effect, this won’t happen real quick unless Bowlen has a african american coach in mind already.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 4:18 PM MST
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Five year plans don't work in the NFL
Three years is enough to see we weren’t progressing
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on
Dec 30, 2008 4:20 PM MST
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Charlie Strong (Florida Defensive Coord)
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 4:22 PM MST
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Looks good, but I don't see a college coordinator jumping to the league.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 4:24 PM MST
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True, but I'd love to see him interviewed
it helps to get exposed
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 4:25 PM MST
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I'm all for it. In fact, I love the Rooney rule. They need it at the college level.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 4:26 PM MST
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we will get Cowher...best opportunity in the league...
especially when you consider that 2 of the 3 opponents in the West we should beat already.
by Northern_Bronco on
Dec 30, 2008 4:20 PM MST
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Well there is no freakin way
I am missing the conference tomorrow.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on
Dec 30, 2008 4:20 PM MST
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31 of 32 NFL teams would be absolutely delighted to have Shanahan as their HC.
I am willing to bet that the other one is retarded.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on
Dec 30, 2008 4:21 PM MST
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found him, his name is Al Davis
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on
Dec 30, 2008 4:23 PM MST
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LOLOLOL
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on
Dec 30, 2008 4:25 PM MST
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Davis would love to have Shanny back now.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
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