Mike Shanahan Dismissed As Head Coach of the Broncos
by Ted Bartlett on Dec 30, 2008 4:05 PM MST
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First, Thanks to Ted for getting this up while I was spending some quality time with my daughters. Secondly, MHR Radio will be LIVE tonight at 9PM est / 7PM mst to talk about this. BE THERE! -- TSG
In a move which has sent shockwaves throughout the NFL, the Broncos have dismissed Mike Shanahan as Head Coach after 14 years and 2 Super Bowl wins. Owner Pat Bowlen's statement follows.
After giving this careful consideration, I have concluded that a change in our football operations is in the best interests of the Denver Broncos. This is certainly a difficult decision, but one that I feel must be made and which will ultimately be in the best interests of all concerned. I appreciate the 21 years that Mike Shanahan has given to the organization as an assistant and head coach, and the two Super Bowl wins in that time. His contributions hold a special place in Broncos history.
I'm sure everybody is as shocked as I am, and also needs to collect their thoughts. Guru will have thoughts later, and I am sure everybody will have a lot to say after some time for reflection.
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KOA is talking about a possible door being open for Elway to return to the organization
God I hope not. He’s got “Michael Jordan” kiss of death written all over him.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:08 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
actually
Elway was a very successful owner in the AFL. could be an interesting GM.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Dec 30, 2008 4:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to be won over...
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
me 2
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
His dad, great talent evaluator for the Broncos, did it rub off on John?
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 5:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Guru...tell us
I’m curious to see your opinion on this…you posted recently about how we need stability. The whole rug just got yanked out from underneath this team. Are you excited? Dissapointed?
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
by sadaraine on Dec 30, 2008 4:09 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
guru must have gone into cardiac arrest
where’s HT’s posting… he’s our next coach, guru’s our new GM!
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
To say the least.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 4:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Shanahan
was a great coach for the Broncos for a long time. Any way you choose to cut it, this is a sad day in Broncos history
"Be not like dumb-driven cattle...."
by jcps on Dec 30, 2008 4:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Very sad news...
…but can’t say it is a complete shock.
Bill Cowher please!
Franklin Gutierrez: "PMR likes him. UZR loves him. Plus/minus had sex with him on Adam Everett's coffee table." - Jeff Sullivan
by coffee on Dec 30, 2008 4:12 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Seconded
I want Shanahan back…but if I can’t have him, then I want someone who knows how to build a defense
"...The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming.."
--Teddy Roosevelt, The Man in the Arena
by Loveland310 on Dec 30, 2008 4:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
He was asked to step down as VP of football operations and stay as HEAD COACH…And then Shanny said no, it’s either all or nothing, and Bowlen said OK then you have to go????
"...The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming.."
--Teddy Roosevelt, The Man in the Arena
by Loveland310 on Dec 30, 2008 4:16 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That's my thinking.
I think that’s exactly what happened.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i was thinking the same thing
its the only thing that makes sense. this has happened too fast
by purplesocks on Dec 30, 2008 5:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Semi-mutual
My guess is this was semi-mutual. That Bowlen asked Shanny if he still has the fire or would he rather be bought out of his contract. Maybe talk about relinquishing some responsibility.
Bob Slowik for head coach!!!! I kid, I kid.
by GaryP on Dec 30, 2008 5:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF, WTF, WTF, WTF!!!!??
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Average Raider Fan's IQ = 89
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by kwool79 on Dec 30, 2008 4:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
not gonna say if I agree or disagree
but like most of you said, I am shocked! I thought shanny would be here pretty much as long as he wanted, I thought he was untouchable.
by nebraskasux on Dec 30, 2008 4:19 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
So did I...
Best coach we ever had. Sad to see him go.
Grammar is not a time of waste
by Patrick517 on Dec 30, 2008 5:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Shocked
Completely, utterly slack-jawed.
by Hobnail_Boot on Dec 30, 2008 4:19 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
This is the end of our great club.
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by kwool79 on Dec 30, 2008 4:20 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Initial reaction
I am shocked by this transgression, only because I never, in my wildest dreams thought Bowlen would fire Shannahan. I do have to say though, I am reinvigorated with excitement by this move. The Broncos have fallen into a trap of mediocrity not seen by this organization in quite some time. It seems as if Shannahan is losing his edge and has become stale to the players. Sometimes all you need is new blood to get things kick-started again. You also have to realistically sit down and look at what we are losing here. Lets face it, the Broncos have been a very, very ordinary team since 1998. We have had 1 single playoff win and now 3 straight seasons of missing the playoffs. Top that off with Shannahan’s lackluster personnel moves and his teams consistently fading and getting worse as the season wears on and I am not too sure we are not going to be in better hands as of now with someone else. People talk about us being such a great team, but, like I said, we really haven’t been. Just look at the facts.
by RyanBuff on Dec 30, 2008 4:21 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Shanahan as VP/GM? No. Shanahan as coach? Yes.
I’ll miss him as a coach MUCH more than I’ll miss him as a GM.
Franklin Gutierrez: "PMR likes him. UZR loves him. Plus/minus had sex with him on Adam Everett's coffee table." - Jeff Sullivan
by coffee on Dec 30, 2008 4:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
wow...
never thought i’d see this day….
"They need security in the world, Craig!"
by Tuna Helper on Dec 30, 2008 4:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
A dark horse candidate
Might very well be Troy Calhoun of the Air Force Academy. He is a very solid coach and has ties to the organization.
by RyanBuff on Dec 30, 2008 4:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
W.T.F.
I drove 45 minutes to get to a computer so I could hear your opinions on this. WTF is going on? Who is available? Will Shanarat (we call him this now.) hate us like he hates Oakland?
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:23 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
When a coach is fired, how long does it usually take before a replacement is named?
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:24 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Depends
Could be tomorow, could take weeks. My guess is Bowlen has a guy lined up and it will be a quick process.
by RyanBuff on Dec 30, 2008 4:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it will bwe quick as well.
I don’t think Bowlen would do this unless he was sure he has a good replacement lined up and ready.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget the Rooney Rule
Unless they plan on hiring a minority, they have to at least interviw one.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Jackson made an interesting point.
Pat Bowlen hasn’t had to interview a head coach in 14 years. I hope he takes his time and picks the right guy for the job.
Unless Cowher wants it tonight, then make the move!
Franklin Gutierrez: "PMR likes him. UZR loves him. Plus/minus had sex with him on Adam Everett's coffee table." - Jeff Sullivan
by coffee on Dec 30, 2008 4:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think cowher
He wont go to NY without total controll and I dont see Bowlen giving 1 person Shannys control
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree and disagree
Wont be Cowher but because of money., not power. I think Bowlen would give Cowher complete control to get them to the SB, but I think he owes Shanahan something like $20 million for the next 3 years and Cowher is gonna cost about $10 million a year.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well cowher
wont even talk to NYJ without being offered total control
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
WHO?
I understand the move but who could be better this year?
by The Dugan01 on Dec 30, 2008 4:26 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I am pissed...
Who is any better?
Welcome to the coaching carousel everyone where we get a new head coach every two years. This totally sucks. Goodbye to our 3rd year of a 5 year plan. Can you say starting over?
I guess I should wait to see what happens, but I think this is a very very bad move by Bowlen. I’m extremely disappointed.
I wish Shanny luck in whatever avenue his new road leads him. I think dark days are ahead for the Broncos, unless they get Cowher (who has expressed interest in the Jets, but because his daughters work and live in the area). I fear he won’t be coming to Denver.
by CalgaryFan on Dec 30, 2008 4:27 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
There is appeal here for Cowher.
He wants total control of personell decisions. Bowlen can give him the power and the money. You know you’ll have job security in Denver that’s for sure.
Franklin Gutierrez: "PMR likes him. UZR loves him. Plus/minus had sex with him on Adam Everett's coffee table." - Jeff Sullivan
by coffee on Dec 30, 2008 4:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I AM JACKS COMPLETE LACK OF SUPRISE!
To all who called for his head you got what you wished for now reap what you sew. Careful what you wish for. I hope Bowlen has Cowher in mind the ONLY logical replacement. Thank you Mike for everything you brought to this Great city! GOOD LUCK! Just don’t stay in the AFC West.
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 4:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
WOW
I am in total shock. My dad texted me and I thought he was joking. I am sad today. I dont feel good right now about next season. Another Dc, a new philosophy.
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
total, utter shock
I’m just stunned. I can see taking away GM responsibilites, but this just blows me away. I’m very dissappointed. Many teams are struggling to find good coaches, and we have an excellent one. They better have a seriously good option in mind. I think Denver will be very attractive to available coaches, but WOW.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
by batgirl on Dec 30, 2008 4:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
How?
Because we fired 1 coach after 13 seasons or whatever it was.
by RyanBuff on Dec 30, 2008 4:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No
firing coaches each season is becoming like the raiders. Or being like the chargers and firing a coach after going 14-2. Denver has had 4 coaches since 1977. That was a dumb comment
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt say that we have become tthe raiders
im just asking if this could be the first sign of trouble ahead
by broncofan91 on Dec 30, 2008 4:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you need to look
at the faders history. 7 coaches in 7 years. compared to 4 in 32
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by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
okay the raider comparison was a little harsh
what i was trying to ask is are we in trouble?
by broncofan91 on Dec 30, 2008 4:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enuff
i dunno I dont think so . . . . .
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Our owner isn't completely senile....
…yet.
Franklin Gutierrez: "PMR likes him. UZR loves him. Plus/minus had sex with him on Adam Everett's coffee table." - Jeff Sullivan
by coffee on Dec 30, 2008 4:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
3 coaches since Reeves was hired
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 4:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Please do not...
Take Alex Gibbs or Kyle Shanahan away from my team.
www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Dec 30, 2008 4:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Can we trade for Kubes?
You can have Lower Downtown if we can have Kubes.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't imagine Kyle would agree to replace his dad :-)
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Think of Bates this year here...
No way is Kyle coming, but the situation must have been awkward for the Bates’s.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I keep forgetting about that because Jeremy was here before they hired Jim
And they are opposite sides of the ball, but yeah.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to replace - but to be on the offensive staff, like as OC
www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Dec 30, 2008 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
makes perfect sense
knowledgeable football people have said for a while that, while Shanny was a great coach, he’s been a so-so GM. My guess is Bowlen finally decided this was true. Being a decisive, successful businessman there was no reason to take half measure.
now I look for him to bring in a GM and have the GM build a coaching staff. That or he brings in seperate GM and head coach himself.
by SlowWhiteGuy on Dec 30, 2008 4:32 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Torn In Two.
Can’t say I’m upset, let alone angered, by the move. That said, I’m certainly not thrilled. It’ll all depend on who we bring in (see: replacing Shotty with Norv in SD or Wade replacing Parcells in Dallas) but I’m oddly excited by the move. Honestly, I’m most disappointed by the fact that he didn’t resign (I’m almost sure he was asked to) and that he’ll likely land somewhere else in the AFC. I wish him all the best and hope Bowlen knows what he’s doing…
Here we go again: http://thefulldeck.blogspot.com/
by ejruiz on Dec 30, 2008 4:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I want someone like Mike Tomlin.
Young and with a vision.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:34 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Can we start a running list of who's, who that is available to replace Shananan.
Can we steal away Kub from the Texans. He would keep the team formilliar to us bronco’s fans
Dynamics with the muscle advantage
Jay Cutler on dust, when I blam sh*t !
by AllinWithMyCards on Dec 30, 2008 4:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Dec 30, 2008 4:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I HOPE HE DOES'NT GO TO KC!
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 4:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Please God no...anywhere but KC, SD, or OAK.
by broncoholic on Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Anywhere in the NFC
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he'll end up in Dallas or New York.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Shanny and T.O would be interesting to watch
and all the other players over there.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 4:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I want someone who WON'T COACH DOWN TO HIS LEVEL OF OPPOSITION.
Please? I want to beat the Raiders, Chiefs, Bills, Jaguars, and Chargers.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
How do you guys feel about Mangini?
Some reports are pointing that way…It’s still too early to tell though.
by phantom818 on Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Mangini.
He looks like a penguin.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and he's a tool
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No no no no no....NO
"...The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming.."
--Teddy Roosevelt, The Man in the Arena
by Loveland310 on Dec 30, 2008 4:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he will be a good coach, but needs to spend a year or two as an assistant first
Definitely no to Romeo Crennel.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:37 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bad move Bowlen
I understand the desire for the change after the dismal performance of the defense overall and the collapse of the team down the stretch. But the Guru was right in calling for stability. I don’t want an offensive minded coach coming in with a new system. I would be fine with Jeremy Bates continuing to run the offense. If we bring in a defensive coach that means a new system and probably getting rid of Slowick. This would be the 5th defensive system in almost as many yerars. Maybe it’ll work, but I doubt it for 2009.
But since the move is made, I don’t think it will be Cowher who replaces him. As I said, I would prefer a defensive minded coach so maybe Steve Spagnulo from the Giants or Jim Johnson of the Eagles.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
+1 Johnson
I think Johnson would be a good choice, although he is a little long in the tooth (which IMHO is the only reason he’s available). He comes from a West Coast offensive team and presumably would stick with the Shanahan offense. He’s a 4-3 guy and his attacking defensive style would make better use of Bly and Baily. I think he could also use Dumerville and Moss more effectively. He totally turned around the Eagle’s defense in 1999 and has kept them there since.
by Snaggins on Dec 30, 2008 8:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm shocked--but I might have a clue
There’s a bunch of news out there that Bill Parcells is getting out of his contract with Miami (at full pay) because Miami is being sold. It wouldn’t surprise me if Parcells is a target of Bowlen.
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Parcells doesn't like to work with star QBs
by broncoholic on Dec 30, 2008 4:38 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler is not a star yet--
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Over my shock, here's my next wave of thoughts..
1) GM Shanahan got Coach Shanahan fired. Talent evaluation on the D side of the ball has been atrocious for at least a few years now.
2) 1-4 in the playoffs since Elway retired 10 years ago.
by Hobnail_Boot on Dec 30, 2008 4:37 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'm in Shock. I think this is a horrible move. Horrible!!!
The only replacement I would want is Kubs and that won’t happen.
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Dec 30, 2008 4:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Wait, what?
/Maniacal laugh….
/confusion…
/maniacal laugh…
/confusion….
by RaiderPete on Dec 30, 2008 4:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
YOU CAN'T HAVE HIM!!!!!!
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Now there are two teams Shanny won't coach
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 4:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Think he'll hate us like he hates the raiders now?
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not unless Bowlen refuses to pay him
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 4:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I personally don't think he will.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 6:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Pete--kick us while we're down--just like a faider
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude I'm shocked
but as a Raider fan it’s ultimately good news.
by RaiderPete on Dec 30, 2008 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well
Denver is still better than the faiders without a coach
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That means a lot
when we’ll both be watching the playoffs from the same spot.
by RaiderPete on Dec 30, 2008 4:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
true
but what do you expect when a fader comes in gloating
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not gloating, legitimately floored.
Were there even whispers of this?
by RaiderPete on Dec 30, 2008 4:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That is what surprises me.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 4:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
not that I have heard
I am so shocked. I do bet Al is happy now
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He was happy for about 3 minutes until he forgot who and where he was
Alzheimers is a terrible thing.
by RaiderPete on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I think I just fell out of my chair, that was funny!
"If you don't know where your going you might find yourself somplace else."
by BroncoJoe87 on Dec 30, 2008 4:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
Nice…thanks for the comments RaiderPete…it is nice to have Raider fans post who aren’t just talking trash. :)
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
by sadaraine on Dec 30, 2008 5:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn't surprise me if Parcells came in a VP and GM--and he will suprise us with a coach
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
no to parcells
he has no loyalty to a team and has no problem in destroying players in the long term to help him in the short term
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
F PARCELLS!!!
Seriously, there’s no one I hate more than that fat bastard.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't argue with his results
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a great A RICHARD!
He’s got a 2-3 year window at best. He’s not a fit in Denver.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He'll just keep doing it. Each year a different club. The Larry Brown of pro football.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
As a VP maybe.
NOT as a coach.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Parcells will never coach again--it would be as VP GM only
In fact it wouldn’t surprise me if Bowlen askd Shanny to stay as coach—and he stepped down
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Parcells is wishful thinking. Financially it would make sense for him though.
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Dec 30, 2008 4:39 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Thorpe--A Parcells move wouldn't surprise me.
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Cowher may be MORE wishful thinking than Parcells at this point.
But I do agree, both are big name cross your finger situations.
by phantom818 on Dec 30, 2008 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want Parcells.
DO NOT WANT!!!
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey man, I just want someone that'll help us win.
I don’t care who it is lol
And, as the latest NFL success stories suggest…go ‘small name’ or go home!
by phantom818 on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
AMEN AMEN AMEN
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone please explain to me
Why is this such a bad move? What greatness are we missing here? Does anyone really think the Broncos have been a great football team the last 10 years? They have pretty much defined mediocrity. I haven’t been drinking the Shannahan kool-aid for a while now. I just don’t see it anymore.
by RyanBuff on Dec 30, 2008 4:40 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
They went to the AFC championship three years ago.
Half the teams in the league haven’t been to the playoffs in the past five years. This is Miami’s first trip since 2001.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How many teams would be happy with 91-69 over the past 10 years?
Four playoff berths, two losing seasons, one conference championship appearance.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We've gone from being the punching bag of the league to being the talk of the league.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
depending on the coach chosen, will free agents want to come to Denver?
I can see Denver sliding down the list for a lot of players.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
punching bag
I think Dallas is more the league punching bag. At least this years Broncos were not Super Bowl favorites.
by InYoFace on Dec 30, 2008 4:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Romeo Crennell
overcompensate for your defensive woes
by RaiderPete on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No to the pound puppy
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
as in, he's still alive!
LOL
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No to the toad spirit.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he was here already between Mike and Reeves
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he rode "bitch" till shanny was hired
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
would want FatBastard back in Denver anyways
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
i also don't want to see KSK do endless skits on him as our coach
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What about the scripted plays?
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Someone in the other post compared it to breaking up with a girlfriend...
What about the scripted plays… what about the small o-line… rememer that time he ate a booger
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
booger eater!
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Scott Pioli for the front office?
He’s gotten permission to talk to Cleveland. Or do people feel he is just a puppet in the New England machine and Belichik is behind all the success? I honestly don’t know and I’m curious what others think. I’d love to get someone who can really evaluate talent.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
by batgirl on Dec 30, 2008 4:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that's the reason for the urgency.
No Rooney rule for the front office.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Pioli
This was just mentioned at profootballtalk.com.
"Be not like dumb-driven cattle...."
by jcps on Dec 30, 2008 5:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
then its as solid as water
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 5:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
For the love of the animals. 24
by Earthtiger24 on Dec 30, 2008 5:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
GM/Head Coach
No way Bowlen hires anoter GM/Coach
Look for Pioli (GM-Pats) and Spagnulo (D Coordinator NYG) to pop up a lot.
Denver’s offense doesn’t need Shanny anymore. And he’s not a good speacil teams or defensive head coach, so why keep him.
I’m bummed though.
by super7 on Dec 30, 2008 4:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind Spagnolo.
Sounds like a mobster.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Aw, Spagnulo would be great....except for the fact he's chilling out in the playoffs right now.
….for the defense I mean
by phantom818 on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How about the NE connection...
Pioli – McDanials.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm talking to a dead conversation, but
Super7 hit the nail on the head. When you have an offense with this much talent, that is being called by the OC, whats the point of keeping an offensive mastermind who would rather be a GM?
This is coming from a longtime Shanny defender, but there comes a point where if you are loosing against your division, you have to fire the coach to bring something new to the 6 division games a year. We were never going to go anywhere with the way we played against the AFC West this year.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Dec 30, 2008 8:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I have quickly moved through the five stages of grief...
…and am on to thinking about next season. There is nothing to second guess about this move. We won 1 playoff game in 10 years. Bowlen didn’t want to look in the mirror any longer and see Jerry Jones’s face!
by xandervan on Dec 30, 2008 4:45 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
since Bowlen is an OU guy..
would Stoops be out of the question? just throwing it out there
by Hobnail_Boot on Dec 30, 2008 4:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I hope he wouldn't be
Although I don’t love the idea of college coaches coming to the NFL. There hasn’t been a very good track record of success.
by RyanBuff on Dec 30, 2008 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
and then think about the ripples as that may affect Sam Bradford’s decision to stay or go pro …
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
imagine that scenario + Bradford in KC
who knows, I’m moving on
by Hobnail_Boot on Dec 30, 2008 4:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Denny Green!!
THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
can we get the entire coors light crew?
maybe rotate them through every couple weeks
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 4:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You think shannahan will end up on one of those commercials if he doesn’t work next year?
by InYoFace on Dec 30, 2008 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Forget them.
MIKE GUNDY. For the win.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he's an idiot and a bad coach
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What does Horvil Tiki haveto say about this?
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
How about Horvil for coach?
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He had those great blitzes earlier in the year...
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You win.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Horvil Tiki for coach--nice thought Butte
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The pressers would be epic.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Horvil CHOP hole dfens from team body, resine 1977 start men for purpose of makey tremendos oranj crusher...
I haven’t heard from Tiki in a while, I may have to go read the post
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Dec 30, 2008 8:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, where is Horvil
with his unique Tikiisms
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 4:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I will say this, if we get Cowher...
than you can bet a lot of FA will want to come here.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:50 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Like Derrick Ward?
Then yes. I want Cowher.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
screw derrick ward
give me Brandon Jacobs!
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nope
he will want full control
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I love Pete Carrol...
I think he’ll go down as the best college coach in history. I hope he never leaves SC. Maybe he has some scores to settle up here, but I hope he’s not our guy. For some reason I just don’t see it. If we go college, I would like to see Urban Meyer. He and Mike can switch jobs.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 4:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Screw Carrol
Let me see him do that outside of USC.
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well
he kind of does, both USC and Denver pays their players
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
holic--we'll see
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think Parcells to take VP an GM positions
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Bowlen has ties to Fassel, please NO!
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 4:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Actually---and you all will hate this--I'd rather have marty Schott than Cowher
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 4:54 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I vote for neither
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike, put down the crack pipe/
j/k. I’m not into Schottenheimer at all.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What's Marty's record in Denver????
awful, thats what
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Dec 30, 2008 8:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I see no glee here......
………..but, I do see a beginning, not an end. I’m already on record this was needed. He was a good coach, but the time (by the record the last three years ) has come…….what’s the saying ; ‘enough is enough’. Whomever is choosen , I’ll give him the support any new coach deserves…..and, I thank Mike for all he gave us and wish him nothing but the best…..
by rockymtnfan on Dec 30, 2008 4:55 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
In my mind, it’s completely out of respect that I refuse to talk about potential replacements until after his press conference. This man brought this franchise not only its greatest glory, but out of the woods and into a national spotlight that no other Denver franchise has ever achieved. Because of him, Denver was no longer thought of as a cow town in a “Where’s that?” state.
Personally, I’m completely heart-broken as I have loved no other Bronco more than Mike Shanahan. He is my guy until the end, and I hope like hell he goes to the NFC and we never have to face him.
I appreciate all of the hard work and dedication he brought the organization as his level of loyalty is extremely rare and he will forever be a Denver Bronco in my mind.
I’m honestly saddened to see so many people here ready to move on so quickly from a man who has brought us so much.
They call me Bubblegum.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
i agree with you
I am floored, Shanny is the best coach Denver has ever had
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sad too. But I maybe the only Bronco fan that is undecided if this is good or not. I’m not sure what to think.
by InYoFace on Dec 30, 2008 4:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think most of us are in that exact state
"If you don't know where your going you might find yourself somplace else."
by BroncoJoe87 on Dec 30, 2008 5:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
re: moving on
I think a lot of it is shock combined with trying to figure out how this makes the Broncos a better team.
But I hear ya. And I appreciate every Mike Shanahan did over the past 21 years. (I almost want to see him end up with the Jets since I live 15 min from their HQ/training camp)
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 5:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with everything except the idea that we owe it to Mike not to talk about his replacement yet
This is a Denver Broncos blog, not a Mike Shanahan blog, our allegiance is to the greater glory of the Broncos.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Dec 30, 2008 8:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine
if you won’t take at least the rest of the day to mourn the loss, but I will. I seriously feel like a very close friend of mine has just died. Shanahan helped usher in my love of the Broncos when I was pretty young, and if I could have a Shanahan jersey, I would buy it immediately. Life as a Broncos fan without Shanahan already hurts. I’m taking this way too hard, I’m sure, but talking about a replacement just feels like a betrayal of my trust.
They call me Bubblegum.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on Dec 30, 2008 9:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
KOA is talking about Elway as HC.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
broncos radio station in denver
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Denver sports talk station.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
a campground
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 4:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
never in a million years
then again I also said Mike would never get fired either
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 4:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 6:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
where is guru?
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 4:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
In cardiac arrest.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 4:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He is trying to collect his thought for the show.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 4:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
realisticltly losin last 3 of season
those were on his shouldrers
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 4:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'm here, guys...
MHR Radio tonight at 9PMest / 7Pm mst
-TSG
SBNation's Denver Broncos Blogger
MileHighReport
Questions, Comments...E-Mail Me!
milehighreport@gmail.com
by John Bena on Dec 30, 2008 4:59 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Not me.
Someone else said it earlier. I sent him an e-mail about it, though.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
So you done with your heart attack.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 5:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
sweet!!!!
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll bring the beer!
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
who's it gonna be Cowher, Tuna, Green?...
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually my favorite choice would be Boise State' head coach Chris Peterson
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I want some orange turf.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Tonight will be the most interesting MHR show to date.
"It doesn't dissipate" ~ Mike Shanahan
Cutler's 4th qtr/OT game winning drives: 9
by weazel on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I also hear Guru will do the show in the buff to bump the ratings up even more!
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Is this an attractive enough job for Cowher?
MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.
by Bob in Boulder on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
To all you that keep saying Cowher or Kubiak...
… just not gonna happen. We need a Tomlin/Soprano type. A first timer that will bring energy into this organization.
And by talking about a replacement, we aren’t disgracing him or anything were just trying to dance around our own shock.
Next to John, there is no Broncos I’ve ever loved as much as mikee…
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
not even as much as Sammy Winder?
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 5:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
:) LOL
I wish Woody Paige was our coach!
by bcfunk on Dec 30, 2008 5:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay I loved Sauerburn, all punters should take roids..
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish we could get Kubiak
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 5:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mike, don't do me like that, buddy!!
LOL – I’m glad that our guy is so coveted.
I’ve gotten into a lot of flame wars with Texans fans who wanted Kubiak fired. I’ve defended him endlessly. I actually wanted Kubiak as our first HC in 2002, but I can understand why he didn’t get the job. I think he’s gonna be in Houston for a long, long time.
www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Dec 30, 2008 5:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I know he is gone ... kuby can't come back
Whaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 8:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Peterson is a perfectionist in teaching execution--there is no-one better
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 5:02 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'd take Peterson but I rather have someone that comes from a winning NFL organization.
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's where Parcells come's in as VP and GM...........with Peterson as coach
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 5:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I want a big name to follow up Shanny.
by broncoholic on Dec 30, 2008 5:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That's just stupid...
I rather have someone make a big name in Denver
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What's really stupid was that Shanny was fired in the first place.
by broncoholic on Dec 30, 2008 5:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen brother..
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Remember Shanny was a fired coach when he came here
The best defense is a good offense!
by Mike Clark on Dec 30, 2008 5:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
just throwing a name out there mike nolan or jeremy bates?
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I like Mike BOOOO on Bates!
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No and no even though I think Nolan is a good coach.
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
All I can say is WOW WOW WOW!!!
I do not think any of us saw this coming. I think that Bowlen sat down with shanny and said " I want you as my HC but not as the GM" And Shanny said no thanks. Now I do not like this move because I do not think there is anyone else out there that is on the same level as Shanny( coach wise). This just shocks me.
Now moving forward. I guarantee you Bowlen brings in a GM first and then allows the GM to build a coaching staff just like Parcells did in Miami. I look at Scott Pioli from the Pats as a possiblity. That is the way to build a football team/organization. Bowlin will not bring in a head coach first and then the GM it will go the other way around.
I STILL CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS I AM IN TOTAL SHOCK
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:05 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Pioli would make me very, very, VERY happy
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
MONEYBALL time!!
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Coyer ?????
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We are doomed - 2 and 14 next year
We can say good bye to having a different running back going over 1000 yards every year. Instead of playing to go to the play offs in the last game of every season, we can compete with Detroit for 1 round draft picks.
This was the worst move in Bronco history. I am sure that Shanahan will be back in the playoffs in the next 2 years. And he will be the hottest coach available this off season. I bet the Cowboys take a look at weather they really want Wade Phillips and not Shanahan.
Bowlen is a fool!!!
by strak3 on Dec 30, 2008 5:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
We haven't had a back go for 1000 in like 3 years dude...
We will be a better team next year, I promise. But that doesn’t make this a good move
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Tatum Bell in 2006 made 1000 in 2006
And Selvin Young went for 729 last year with 231 recieving yards. I am sure the running backs where every Shanahan ends up will end up going over 1000.
This year was a fluke because of the injurys – I am sure Pitman would have broke 1000 if he started 16 games, and Hillis was amazing.
by strak3 on Dec 30, 2008 5:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you can say we're doomed till we know who the next HC is gonna be. If Bill Cowher comes then we might have a shot.
by broncoholic on Dec 30, 2008 5:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He will never ever come.....
If he does, I’ll get his face tattooed on my ass
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Turner didn't get fired
& I think injuries had more to do with the RB slump we’ve gone through than Shanny. I am hoping to see a stronger Offense next year when we can throw and RUN, Shanny or no Shanny.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Dec 30, 2008 9:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll step up for GM...
I just won back to back championships in denver in Madden… My first move was trading Elvis for Steve Breaston :)
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
ive won 3 of 4
and i just traded royal for 2 first round picks and ed reed
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you trade royal even in madden
that is just wrong lol
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
he was injury prone
but he just had 1500 yards with 16 td. and i had a good third stringer
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Pssh.
I’ve won 5 out of 7 with the Houston Texans (Madden 05 on PS2. Still the best Madden ever.)
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We could have used another WR this year
Especially after all the RB’s got injured. Stokely is just too fragile to play the number of snaps we needed.
Just think how screwed this team would have been if Royal was Stokely’s backup and Darell Jackson or Keary Colbert were the starter opposite Marshall.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 5:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
well guys
as i was driving home from the mountains i got this text message saying shanahan was fired…..and my heart stopped but then i was sort of excited…..but now im totally bummed
Mile High Salute
by TommyTSlice on Dec 30, 2008 5:08 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
i had the same reaction
now i am pissed
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Also once we get a GM
Look at possible Defensive Minded head Coaches like Rex Ryan, or steve spagnola
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Rex Ryan was the first person that came to my mind
I don’t know if it’d work but Id love to take a shot. Lane kiffin anyone?
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He can bring his daddy!!
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a joke dude...
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked it:-)
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The tick liked it!!
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I am a really sad puppy right now
I can not believe this and do not really now how to feel.. I do like the analogy this like breaking up with a girlfriend.. But I love Shanny and I can’t think of a coach I want dead or alive. I mean this team is built for Shanny to run, what does this mean we dump everyone and start over players and all.
For the love of the animals. 24
by Earthtiger24 on Dec 30, 2008 5:11 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Why doesn't everyone breath.
We’ll learn more at the press conference tomorrow. Bowlen won’t hire Crennel or Martz.
Next season is NOT over already. Crap, last season just ended.
by binford04 on Dec 30, 2008 5:11 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
In through the nose out through the mouth.......
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
the mind follows the breath
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
im sad
im gonna eat a whole tube of cookie dough. then a pint of ice cream
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
and then puke?
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
At least we wont have to worry about Mikey blowing our first on a offensive player
I GUARANTEE the new face selects a defensive player with our first three. Everybodys gotta like that.
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I seriously would love
Scott Pioli as GM and Rex Ryan as head coach
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ill second that.
I’ve always wanted a defensive head coach.. Minus Wade Phillips
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If Pioli comes..
…you think he’d bring McDaniels?
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think so
Because Pioli is a smart guy and knows we need defense and Look who the hired in NE, A D minded coach
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan it is!!! Or spamnolia ;)
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Jarvis Moss, or Tim Crowder?
Big name defensive draft picks have been some of the least productive players the Broncos have had during recent years. You have to go back all the way to DJ Williams to find a high defensive pick that has worked out for us.
by strak3 on Dec 30, 2008 5:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
to add to this
the Cleveland linemen that Denver brought in a few years ago were not the busts that everyone made them out to be. I for one would be happy if Denver had never traded Gerard Warren.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 5:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
who ever we get I hope
they leave the offense intact or at least an RB
by mrwhite20 on Dec 30, 2008 5:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
This is worse than Sunday night...
I am in stunned disbelief. No matter what’s happened the last few seasons, I figured Shanny would be coaching the Broncos for the next 15 years. Yes, I’m sure it came down to Bowlen giving him the ultimatum of installing a GM or an independent DC. If that’s the case, I am sad that Shanahan’s ego kept him from agreeing. Aside from John Elway, Mike Shanahan IS the Denver Broncos. I just hope Bowlen isn’t making a rash decision, and that it was brewing for quite some time. These are not the sort of choices to make on emotion.
I will be forever grateful for Mike Shanahan and what he brought to the Broncos and us, the fans. He gave us hope every single year and two brilliant championships that we will never forget. Granted, it hasn’t gone that well the last few…but as we’ve all been saying, this is a rebuilding process. It’s time to build a defense.
by Douglas A. Lee on Dec 30, 2008 5:15 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
i agree with you
as sad as I was SUnday i still was looking forward to the draft and Shanny getting a defense together. I am not real happy right now, closer to pissed off
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 5:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
If it was the situation where Bowlen said you can stay at HC but not GM and Shannies ego got in the way. Then so be it because they should have stripped his GM duties awhile ago
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
IS'NT VERBAL BINDING?
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Clayton at espn.com already thinks Cowher a good fit for Broncos.
by InYoFace on Dec 30, 2008 5:18 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Go Clayton!
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That little bald man doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he didn’t reach his article quota yet and jumped on the most obvious speculation story you can get out of this.
by InYoFace on Dec 30, 2008 5:21 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Link
Did you also notice Albert Haynesworth coming to Denver was mentioned?
I’m freakin nervous right now, I know that.
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He does make some good points but I think the article is poorly timed. I wish they at least had some evidence rather than just speculation.
by InYoFace on Dec 30, 2008 5:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well aint that a kick in the teeth.
I know I should not be totally shocked, but I am. However this is a situation Mike created for himself. These are his players and his coaches so the blame has to be at his feet.
I will miss Shanahan because I still think the man is still one of the best play callers around.
I have got nothing right now, still too shell shocked.
Mr. Bowlen I hope you know what you are doing, and please I do not want to live through another Wade Phillips Era.
All Hail St. Harold, Patron Saint of Designated Hitters!
by Boski93 on Dec 30, 2008 5:19 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I am happy for the Wade era in Dallas myself
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on Dec 30, 2008 5:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares?
He’s a 3rd year QB. I’m not sure it matters what he thinks to be honest
by binford04 on Dec 30, 2008 5:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just glad we had Shanny for a while to help with his progression...
…he may not know it yet, but Shanny might have been the biggiest thing in his career.
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Harris is going to be interviewed on the fan about the coaching change coming up...
could be interesting.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 5:21 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The Broncos would almost be a turn key team for someone like Cowher
installed offense, large dedicated fan base, single owner. if the power is there for him he’s a perfect fit to fix the D and start winning big again.
by Nitz on Dec 30, 2008 5:21 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
WOW
I really thought Bowlen would give him one more year. I told someone just this morning, if we’re at the same place or worse one year from now I could see Bowlen pulling the trigger.
Then again, the Broncos have most of the pieces of a truly explosive offense already in place. They have nine draft picks. They have a few players they can probably trade for more. They have plenty of cap room. They have a very challenging schedule next year. They HAVE to make a big splash this off season on defense in the draft and free agency to have a chance and one has to assume Bowlen looked at history and felt Shanahan’s philosophy in that regard simply wasn’t going to change.
I am sure we’ll hear more from Bowlen and Shanahan in the coming days, but whether this turns out to be the right move of course depends on who REPLACES Shanahan.
by TheMastermind on Dec 30, 2008 5:21 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
This really sucks
I hope we don’t get into the same coaching carrousel every couple of years like the rest of the league. This really pisses me off. Mike was one of the best coaches that’s played in this league.
by mrwhite20 on Dec 30, 2008 5:21 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
wow
I thought Shanny was untouchable. Frankly I thought he should have been untouchable. I guess that means whoever the next coach is better immediately win 10+ games, or somehow be able to magically heal the injured, or else they just did a real stupid thing.
Jason
The Hanging Curve
by poorboywilly on Dec 30, 2008 5:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah why?
Only reason I can possibly see is money.
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry that was meant for the comment by Nutbag below.
This thread is moving so quick, I clicked the wrong reply button.
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that everyone should forget about Cowher...
It is very unlikely he’ll end up here.
It’s possible…but unlikely.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
not being a smart ass here but...
why?
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 5:23 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he would fit perfectly here.
by broncoholic on Dec 30, 2008 5:24 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Only possible reason I can see is money (7 mill to Shanny and 9 mill to Cowher)
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Because everyone in the league is after Cowher...
Everyone in the league has been courting him for some time now.
They’re reporting on NFL Network that he said he’s not going to be a HC this season…possibly in 2010.
It’s just a very long shot.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just always thought he looked better in yellow..
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hadn't heard the 2010 comment...
I wonder why the wait??
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 5:26 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard it..
Probably just isn’t ready…
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Probabaly digs waking up on Sunday doing a pregame and postgame show...
and then having the week off.
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 5:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
His daughter
I guess he wants her to graduate before he takes up another job. He needs 1 more year with family.
"If you don't know where your going you might find yourself somplace else."
by BroncoJoe87 on Dec 30, 2008 5:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Denver is by far the most attractive opening
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's as cut and dry as that...
Some people are like Slinkies...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
by Denverjhawk on Dec 30, 2008 5:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we are a little biased...
They need far less work then we do. We have more potential, but if Mike Shannhan couldnt fully capture it who can?
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I am biased
but I also live in Dallas
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Would be a good fit for the team, but I don’t think it is enough to entice Cowher back. And I can’t see Bowlen shelling out the $$ to get him in addition to the money still owed Shanahan (unlike the Raiders, Denver will pay him what he is due)
At this point I am “rooting” for a defensive minded coach with no NFL head coaching experience (I do not want a retread like Denny Green)
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 5:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I have to say this
Denver has to be the most interesting GM and HC opening out there. We have a better team together then any of the the other teams that fired their coachs and GM’s
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:22 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The jets? I think its at the least tied... Plus they're NY.. Bigger market
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I do believe it a bigger market
But we have a better team together. Cowher wants a established qb with the team he takes over and we are the only team with an opening that have a good QB
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
When you consider everything
Denver is most attractive
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They need far less work..
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
him or rex ryan
but we need a GM first
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:25 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Spagnuolo
YES.
To bear up under loss, to fight the bitterness of defeat and the weakness of grief, to be victor over anger, to smile when tears are close, to resist evil men and base instincts, to hate evil and to love love, to go on when it would seem good to die, to seek after the glory and the dream, to look up with unquenchable faith in something evermore about to be, that is what any man can do, and so be great.
Zane Grey
by bradley on Dec 30, 2008 5:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
The John Clayton
article was interesting to see what Cowher wants. Clayton makes it sound like he wants to be in contrlol of hiring the GM and office personnel but only wants to worry about coaching stuff
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:25 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
That said...
Shanahan will have a job next year somewhere, if he chooses to. Hell, theoretically he could have another job in half an hour – but we’ll probably have to wait until after the season is over to know for sure where the chips will land.
I know I won’t be the first but I definitely want to thank him for all he’s done for the Broncos, the city of Denver, the fans here and wish him the best on whatever he chooses to do next.
Whether you agree with tis decision or not you have to admit, these are huge shoes to fill and a lot to live up to. Big challenge up ahead and they’re going to have to work hard to pick the right people to meet it.
Thanks Mike Shanahan and good luck wherever you go, and in whatever you do!
by TheMastermind on Dec 30, 2008 5:26 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
So...
You’ve got to change your avatar now? That sucks..
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, we'll see.
Plenty of people have Elway related Avatars. He’s been gone for a while. I’ll always be a Broncos fan, but I’ll always be a Shanahan fan too.
Unless he goes to Cleveland. LOL
by TheMastermind on Dec 30, 2008 5:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
SHANAHAN JUST SIGNED WITH DETROIT!
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:28 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
link please?
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
just kidding HA!
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I pee too much...
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You made me pee
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT???
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:29 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I new he was.. ;) Hell go to KC so he can do what he did to the raiders...
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:30 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that's the real ploy to plant a Mole!
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:32 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha then lets do it on a good team ;P
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:33 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he will go back to Oakland and finally get paid.
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Schlereth
on 104.3 theFan in Denver right now
by InYoFace on Dec 30, 2008 5:31 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I already heard him on ESPN
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Scoop please
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this is whgen i hate living in denver
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:31 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He said we should have just kept him as coach...
.. he kinda said it was a stupid mistake cuz theres no one better in the league. Obviously he doesn’t know the whole situation…
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously.
"Choose the sword, and you will join me. Choose the ball and you join your mother, in death. You don’t understand my words, but you must choose. So… come boy, choose life or death."
by ButteBronco on Dec 30, 2008 6:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I bet you shanny takes a year off
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:33 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Sure
He just built a big new home in Denver
To bear up under loss, to fight the bitterness of defeat and the weakness of grief, to be victor over anger, to smile when tears are close, to resist evil men and base instincts, to hate evil and to love love, to go on when it would seem good to die, to seek after the glory and the dream, to look up with unquenchable faith in something evermore about to be, that is what any man can do, and so be great.
Zane Grey
by bradley on Dec 30, 2008 5:34 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Schlereth is shocked that they fired Shanny.
Harris was shocked too…he said at no point did Shanahan lose the locker room.
We just fired the best coach in the NFL.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:34 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
mike martz was just fired
hmmm…nevermind
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
i think bowlen jumped the gun on this one
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:35 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I think we had to get him out of the dictator role. If he wouldn't just do his job and be coach, then I'm sad to say it but it was the right thing...
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I am torn
I think Bowlen gave him an ultimatum. Bowlen wanted him to be the Head coach and only the head coach. Bowlen wanted to bring in a GM that would handle the draft and other things and let Shanny get back to what he does best. I really think he was only fired because he wanted to keep complete control of the orginazation and Pat was not having it
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bowlen
Jumped the gun? He’s pretty smart. I think he saw something (burnout?) that wasn’t visible to the rest of us.
To bear up under loss, to fight the bitterness of defeat and the weakness of grief, to be victor over anger, to smile when tears are close, to resist evil men and base instincts, to hate evil and to love love, to go on when it would seem good to die, to seek after the glory and the dream, to look up with unquenchable faith in something evermore about to be, that is what any man can do, and so be great.
Zane Grey
by bradley on Dec 30, 2008 5:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he allready has some one hired.
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And that is what we will never know
One of the advantages of being the owner is that you get to ask questions like “Why did you rotate through safeties so much?” or “Why was Jarvis Moss inactive the last game?” etc which actually allow you to judge his performance in a way that we never can.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 5:39 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bowlen
Did not make this decision in the last 48 hours.
To bear up under loss, to fight the bitterness of defeat and the weakness of grief, to be victor over anger, to smile when tears are close, to resist evil men and base instincts, to hate evil and to love love, to go on when it would seem good to die, to seek after the glory and the dream, to look up with unquenchable faith in something evermore about to be, that is what any man can do, and so be great.
Zane Grey
by bradley on Dec 30, 2008 5:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he did...
If Broncos won Sunday night then Shanny is our HC next year.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
But then you have to admit the opposite – that if the Borncos lose, Shanahan’s gone
To bear up under loss, to fight the bitterness of defeat and the weakness of grief, to be victor over anger, to smile when tears are close, to resist evil men and base instincts, to hate evil and to love love, to go on when it would seem good to die, to seek after the glory and the dream, to look up with unquenchable faith in something evermore about to be, that is what any man can do, and so be great.
Zane Grey
by bradley on Dec 30, 2008 5:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
which is true.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Either way
The questions might not be the exact ones, but I think the point holds that Bowlen has a unique perspective on Shanahan’s decision making process that none of us will ever know.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 5:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
no doubt.
this is a mistake.
Even if we get Cowher…he’s not as good of a coach as Shanahan.
No one available is an adequate replacement for Shanahan.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:36 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
We ought to get Mike Martz to run the offense and put in Sapgnolo to be the HC and find ourselves a super-smart GM. Martz would be ideal to be the OC with the weapons we currently have, can you imagine??
If people aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat??
by BigDave on Dec 30, 2008 5:38 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I would like an honest "I" from all the individuals who were calling for his head before this....
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:39 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
not it
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:40 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
not me
I was happy with shanny
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
crickets.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate that shit... Everyone was calling for it after the loss, even before that. Now no one will man up
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:42 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree were are they now? reap what you've sewn!
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm looking for someone to blame.. I say we light them all on fire. Any volunteers?
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
can I wear one of those metallic flame retardant suits?
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Only on the crotchal region
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
other wise known as the scrodicerous region!
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
A good stoning would be easier
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I could really use a good stoning right now!
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I never called for it
you can go back and look at all my post. Now there is a lot of people on here that did and know will not say anything
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:43 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I was (and still am) calling for Slowik's dismissal.
Definitely not Shanny’s…I would have told you that was absolutely absurd.
All I know is that if Shanny is gone and Slowik is still here then the apocalypse has officialy began.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Most of the coaches will be gone
When the head coach leaves almost everyone else does also
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Since I am assuming Denver will hire a defensive minded coach
I assume Slowik is gone. I would hope that the new regime keeps the offensive staff together.
PS. Just saw your response from an earlier thread. I am heading to Hampton. Have never been to Red Rocks, but would love to go. Probably not this year since I have at least one Broncos trip planned already.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 5:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
slo MUST go
hear me, perpetrators of bread crime, your punishment is at hand.
taste my blintzkrieg!
all i want for xmas is blitzen.
by davecheffy on Jan 2, 2009 3:41 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not me at all
I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.
by sadaraine on Dec 30, 2008 11:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Horvil Tiki as HC and Bronco Billy as GM!!
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:40 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I thought it would be a possibility next year but not this year
I thought Bowlen would give him oneyear do build the D through Free agency and the draft and then go from there
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:42 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
bowlen and shanny only talked for 5 minutes
when he got fired
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
It probably was awkward.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
really where did you see that
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:44 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
nfl .com
its the main window thingy play it
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
if that is the case
then that is BS and we need a new owner
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:46 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone was standing outside with a stopwatch haha
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:47 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
that sounds like Bowlen's decision was made beforehand
and that there was not any discussion about a different role, etc.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 5:45 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And that Shanahan knew
about Bowlen’s decision
To bear up under loss, to fight the bitterness of defeat and the weakness of grief, to be victor over anger, to smile when tears are close, to resist evil men and base instincts, to hate evil and to love love, to go on when it would seem good to die, to seek after the glory and the dream, to look up with unquenchable faith in something evermore about to be, that is what any man can do, and so be great.
Zane Grey
by bradley on Dec 30, 2008 5:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Bobby Turner?
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
No more zone blocking scheme?
Some one tell me this is all a bad dream.
Average Raider Fan's IQ = 89
Bill Williamson's IQ = 75
Find yours by clicking here.
by kwool79 on Dec 30, 2008 5:44 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
To be honest
I’m all for the move. The team needs a change and they need a new leader. Shanny’s way hasn’t worked in the past couple of years and it’s obvious that this team could be doing better. I’m shocked at the move and I’m sad about it, but I’m also excited to see the great things this change can bring.
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 5:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Our first volunteer!! Someone grab the torch!!
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:48 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Very sad but this is probably the best time to do this if you’re going to. I’d rather bring in a fresh approach now when we have a team that is partially in place than the situation Tom Landry was in in 1989. As a former Cowboys fan, as much as I loved Landry he was about four or five years past needing to walk away and the team Jimmy Johnson inherited needed rebuilding from the ground up.
At least Denver has the offensive side of the ball largely in place. We just need a complete shift in defensive approach and personnel and we probably weren’t going to get that next year. As sad as I am to see Shanahan go, this is a team that under the right leadership can win NOW.
The question is, will they find the right leadership? If they don’t, then yes this becomes a dumb decision. But it’s a little early to be trying to pass a verdict. I think we should all be patient. For better of for worse this is a done deal. I think we should continue to be supportive of the team and let things play out, and see where things fall.
Hey, many of us are shocked and terrified. But there is hope!
by TheMastermind on Dec 30, 2008 6:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Shanahans record
146-91 that is just good
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:47 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Reeves 110-73, still got him axed
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
God I hope the new guy keeps the offensive ideaology that's already in place.
Average Raider Fan's IQ = 89
Bill Williamson's IQ = 75
Find yours by clicking here.
by kwool79 on Dec 30, 2008 5:48 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I want a 3-4!!! Haha
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:49 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I do.
Woody and DJ on the field at the same time, with Terrance Cody stuffing the middle……mmmmmmmmmmmmm……….
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:49 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like all the great defensive units are 3-4...
…this would be the perfect time to give it a shot…
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:51 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It is not a terrible thing
to consider during the offseason. Not so much during the season.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 5:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
All the ex bronco players are all shocked
like TD and Mark S
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:49 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
what if shnny goes to oakland???
that would be a sad day
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:49 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I would lose all respect for him. He would never go crawling back
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha- remember last time he was in Oakland?
Not happenin’
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you crazy?
The stuff between Al Davis and Shanny will never be fixed.
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 5:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said he might finally get paid.
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:50 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate Pat Bowlen right now
It totally sounds like Bowlen that decided without even talking to Shanny. That is complete BS.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Bowlen should have asked Shanny,
“Do you want to be fired?” He made an executive decision, like executives should.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He was prolly reading all the bloggs on broncos web
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:52 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone fire Pat Bowlen
He has lost his damn mind
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:52 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Unless he trades all future draft picks for the next 12 and a half years for Javon walker, hell never be davis
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Places where Shanahan could end up:
-Dallas
-New York Jets
-Detroit
-Oakland
-College
Where?
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:53 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
It's possible that
He hangs it up, as well.
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 5:53 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
What college though?
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:54 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Mizzou.
Wishful thinking…
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He will end up at Norte Dame, guarenteed
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Norte Dame, plain and simple
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ALL NFL TEAMS ! ! ! ! ! !
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:54 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I could even see an NFL firing their coach for him.
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
EVERY NFL TEAM WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER THIS.
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
ya
who wqouldnt want 2nd best coach of all time
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 5:55 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, whoa, whoa... Do NOT go that far....
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:56 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I just can't believe
That Bowlen let him go without even talking to him and maybe letting him stay as the head coach but not as the GM. This is just cazy BS. How do you call a Hall of Fame coach who has been your HC for 14 years and been a part of the orginaztion for 21 years for just 5 min to tell him you are moving in a different direction and its final. That is just nuts. That is the most disrespectful thing i have ever heard. Bowlen called him into his office out of nowhere. Bowlen has lost all my respect and I feel betrayed as a Fan
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:56 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
We dont know everything yet... calm down...
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 5:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
watch the interview on NFL Network
Adam Schefter talked with Shanny. He found out it came out of nowhere and Bowlen just sat him down and said we are moving in a different direction and that is it and the meeting was over. He did not even give Shanny a chance to discuss staying with the team in a lesser role. That is just wrong
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 6:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is everyone assuming
That Bowlen didn’t even talk to Shanny? He wouldn’t do that.
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 5:57 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
They'd..
…already discussed it. Not a surprise to Shanahan.
To bear up under loss, to fight the bitterness of defeat and the weakness of grief, to be victor over anger, to smile when tears are close, to resist evil men and base instincts, to hate evil and to love love, to go on when it would seem good to die, to seek after the glory and the dream, to look up with unquenchable faith in something evermore about to be, that is what any man can do, and so be great.
Zane Grey
by bradley on Dec 30, 2008 5:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There is no way he would have accepted a lower role, and Bowlen realized this team needs a fresh start
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, I just had a horrible thought.
What if the Chargers get Norved in the playoffs, then Norv Norv and hire Shanny??
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I AM JACKS SMERKING REVENGE.
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 5:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm having nightmares tonight
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 5:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
already dealing with that dissapointment
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 6:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not going to happen, AJ Smith won't give control to Shanahan
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:14 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Bowlen
Let the dumb fans get to him which is complete BS
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 5:57 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Settle down.
You don’t have any idea what Bowlen was thinking. None of us do. Don’t jump to conclusions.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 5:58 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No way, this is not a knee jerk reaction, he has shown great patience
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 5:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
it's knee jerk...
whenever an HC would still have a job if he’d one ONE game then it’s a knee jerk reaction.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Bowlen knew that if the Broncos lost, Shanny would be gone. BEFORE THE GAME.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Not one game
1 playoff win in ten years, three strait years of missing the playoffs, blow a 3 game lead with three to play, get humiliated by the Raiders at home, how is it one game, just the last straw
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
because he'd still have a job if he'd won that one game...
…which means it’s due to ONE game. Even though there are other mitigating factors.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know that
If they had gotten blown out by Indy, who is to say that he wouldn’t have pulled the trigger
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
How do you know that this was a stupid decision?
Because every rival team is happy as could be about this.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 5:58 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
They were especially happy
When they all kicked our ass.
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 5:59 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and because EVERY other team in the NFL would love Shanny as their HC.
…except maybe NE.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, I think that is limited view
Think the Colts want him over Dungy?
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:01 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
and I think you’re letting Bowlen off the hook for one of the absolute dumbest sports related decisions in a very long time.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
After completely letting the playoffs slip out of your grasp with a 3 game lead
You think it’s a dumb decision?
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 6:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It is a dumb decision
because Bowlen did not even give him a chance to stay on at a lesser role
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 6:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That part does not bother me too much
The performance of the team during those games did.
It’s not like we were ever a team that was dominating our division. More like leading by default.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 6:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And I think pit is fine with Tomlin, plus Fisher in Ten
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:03 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We'll talk after 10 abysmal years of football in Denver.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we've had 2 in a row
With Shanny.
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 6:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
No, 3 in a row. Remember the 2006 collapse?
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes.
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 6:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
If you guys can't understand why that argument is faulty...
I’m not going to take the time to explain it to you.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
People were saying the same after we fired Reeves
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
We should let the Raiders run our organization, because they have done so well
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:00 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Shanny holding news conference at 11:00 AM tomorrow.
"During MHR Radio we laugh, sing, listen, shed a few tears, and learn all of Papi's dirty secrets." -TSG 12/7/08
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:01 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I'll bet he tears up like Elway
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 6:02 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
this is one of if not the darkest day in broncos history
by robbo650 on Dec 30, 2008 6:02 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
yep...
I just hope all these guys saying it was a good decision are willing admit to it at the end of next season.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't necessarily think it's a "good decision."
I’m just putting my faith in Bowlen.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, everything will be fine, every run has to come to an end
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the Stuff on NFL Network
Adam Schefter talked with Shanny. He found out it came out of nowhere and Bowlen just sat him down and said we are moving in a different direction and that is it and the meeting was over. He did not even give Shanny a chance to discuss staying with the team in a lesser role. That is just wrong
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 6:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
So how would you fire someone?
No matter what you do, you look like a jerk. Bowlen was tired of Shanahan. He knows what he is doing. He is the best owner in the NFL.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:04 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree...
The longer it is, the more ugly it gets
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, it is very hard to fire someone, never easy, and once you make the descision you have to pull the trigger
You can’t negotiate out of it.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially after
all the Shanny and Bowlen have been through together.
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 6:07 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's business, sorry but how many times has shanahan been that cold to players and coaches
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:05 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Remember John Lynch?
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:06 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about John Lynch
he was washed up anyways, HE was a player that did not know when to retire
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 6:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Fairly unemotional about Mike Shanahan's fate
I find myself fairly unemotional about Mike Shanahan’s fate.
The Broncos have been in a sad need of a slap in the face. Mike seems to have lost the motivational edge for this team. That’s not to say we need a rah-rah guy, as coach, but rather the Denver Broncos have been sorely in need of change, for more than a few years. And, gripe all we may, the time for change has occurred.
I didn’t really care that the Broncos lost on Sunday. But it was the way they did it: an NFL classic belly flop record. I fully expected this year’s team to lose Sunday, but the way they performed HURT MY FEELINGS. It’s no fun to be humiliated.
As a guy whose family was going to the Bronco games when they were playing at Denver University’s field, I owe Mike Shanahan BIG TIME for the most joyous day of my life. When John Mobley knocked down Bret Farve’s pass, our house erupted in joy.
THANK YOU, MR. SHANAHAN… you truly did great things for Denver.
I hope that the Broncos find a way to retain RB Coach Bobby Turner. It makes sense that he is an expert evaluator of running backs. We might have a dominant back on our roster already, in Peyton Hillis.
Shanahan did, IMO, have a bad habit of taking a chance on players, who have a past injury history. It would be an interesting research project to find out which of the seven RBs we have on IR, missed major time in college, due to injury. Hillis’ injury looked to me like a very freak accident, and I am hoping, he didn’t have injury problems in college.
Making a coaching change — now — is a signal to all the players, that there won’t been a huge degree of sentimentality involved, in you retaining your job. It is all salary and performance, and the defensive philosophy of the new HC.
Anybody know what kind of a personal relationship Pat Bowlen and Scott Pioli have?
Onward!
by nativesun on Dec 30, 2008 6:06 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Off the top of my head...
Selvin did… Plus everyone knows about Pittman
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Torain
Didn’t Ryan Torain have a broken ankle or foot or something like that? Don’t bit me if I’m wrong.
by nativesun on Dec 30, 2008 6:11 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Broken elbow in training camp.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea however
Shanny and Bowlen have a great relationship. How many times has Bowlen said he is my coach for life. You can not just let a coach of Shanahans Calibur just walk with a 5 minute conversation. I would be completely ok with it if they would have had an in depth conversation about the direction of the orginization but that did not happen.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 6:07 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
correction:
Shanny and Bowlen HAD a great relationship.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:08 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That happened a year ago.
My guess is that they had that long conversation, a year ago.
by nativesun on Dec 30, 2008 6:09 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
great point
I think your speculation seems entirely possible.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
by batgirl on Dec 30, 2008 8:30 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok so all you fans that called for his head
I do not want to see you bitching when we go 4-12 next year
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 6:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
You can't possibly think that Bowlen and Shanny haven't talked at all about relinquishing power.
It doesn’t have to happen at the last minute. I’ll bet they had that talk many, many times. Shanny woulsn’t give it up.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Which possible HC would be best for Jay Cutler?
I don’t think it would be Cowher.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:10 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Right now, I'm not worried about Cutler and the offense.. Its the guys who line up on the other side
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
True, but Cutler still has a lot of developing to do.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
And the defense has a lot of packing to do.
Cutler will develop. At least we HAVE an offense. The defense needs total overhaul.
by TheMastermind on Dec 30, 2008 6:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think it would be an offensive minded coach
But you can get that with an offensive coordinator too, if he is in control
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 6:13 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
You are all nuts
If you think there is a better coach available. Shanny is better then anyone that is available out there
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 6:11 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
And you are severely overreacting.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:12 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
you're severely underreacting...
This was a REALLY stupid decision.
We just fired one of the top 5 coaches in football…and no the other four aren’t available.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Does a top 5 coach
With that kind of talent drop 3 games in a row and completely lose his team and the division?
The Adventures of King Royal and Phyllis The Jester
by Greyson on Dec 30, 2008 6:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Greyson.
I didn’t even have to say it.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a stupid argument.
Look at his entire career. He is one of the most successful coaches ever.
He has completely rebuilt this team.
Every great coach has down years…it’s a stupid owner that doesn’t know to ride it out.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:27 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
and i am not
severely overreacting. Name one coach that would be better genius
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 30, 2008 6:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Would be better for us right now?
A coach that doesn’t play down to competition, knows something about player scouting and development, and gets into the playoffs without backing in. So, Bill Cowher. Or maybe Steve Spagnolo.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
There is absolutely NO argument supporting that either of those is a better coach than Shanahan.
I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!
by PosterNutbag on Dec 30, 2008 6:28 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna go with...
Pioli as GM and either Bates or the kid from NE as coach.
Or so I'm told.
by MN Bronco on Dec 30, 2008 6:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
BOWLEN WANTED TO FIRE SLOWIK, AND SHANAHAN WOULDN'T
That factored into his firing.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Well, then the silver lining is that if Bowlen was gonna fire Slowik
then the Broncos will probably have better luck finding a better replacement without Shanahan as the HC.
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 6:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That did it for me
Shanahan’s statement about retaining Bob Slowik was the final straw for me. Slowik has not succeeded as a D Coordinator, anywhere. And definitely not this year, either.
by nativesun on Dec 30, 2008 6:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
read this!!! its from espn
His top two draft picks in 2007, Jarvis Moss and Channing Crowder, were barely a factor this season. Two of Denver’s top veteran acquisitions from last year, Niko Koutouvides and Dewayne Robertson, also did very little.
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
It even brings it to his link.... Haha stupid ESPN rushing things
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:15 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that too
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 6:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously epsn is telling us that we should pick him up this year ;)
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:16 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
hey i want channing!!
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I WANT ALEX GIBBS! ! !
Tactics without Strategy is the noise you hear before Defeat!
by monodono on Dec 30, 2008 6:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep Hope Alive!
Come on guys, we’re all shocked. But look at Atlanta, Miami and Baltimore. Would anyone have guesseed on those head coaching picks? And look how far those teams had to go!
Denver needs a lot of help on defense but we have an explosive offense mostly in place! Great things can happen in a year – and this is not a team that finished 1-15 or 4-12.
It all depends on who they pick but there IS hope.
by TheMastermind on Dec 30, 2008 6:14 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I still say Cohwer is coming and this may be the begining of a dynasty
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:17 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler's comments:
I’m disappointed, I’m shocked, I’m not happy about it, I’m not pleased with it at all. We had zero inkling this was going to happen. I didn’t have a clue.
I hope Jay doesn’t lose faith in the organization…
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:17 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
Source?
Touchdowns win championships? Seriously, get a freakin defense!
Hillis for starter (next year). He wears special thigh pads so his solid brass balls don't give him repeated thigh contusions.
by 53guys on Dec 30, 2008 6:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
It's on the main site.
In Bowlen we trust. Find someone special.
by papigrande on Dec 30, 2008 6:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh that's bad... That's real bad.... We should have let him "step down" it would have lessened the blow...
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:18 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Would he have stepped down?
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 6:19 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not really stepping down, more like a Mike D'antoni thing...
Yes, I'm a Diamondback and Suns fan. So you may be wondering, "Why does this fool like the Broncos so much?"
A: The Cardinals are too hard of a pill to swallow. Oh yeah and that Elway dude....
by Elway4Prez on Dec 30, 2008 6:20 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
That is my worry
In addition to drawing in potential free agents, we have quite a few key offensive players (and Elvis) whose contracts are up after 2009 or 2010 who might not be as interested in resigning. (Obviously a lot depends on the new coach, but it is a worry)
by MattR on Dec 30, 2008 6:22 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not too worried about this
Cutler always says the first thing that pops into his mind. Of course he’s shocked and angry. Give him and the team a chance to find out where the organization is going. If the direction is good, they’ll get on board.
I have a feeling that if the new leadership crafts a defense that keeps the opposition scoring down, Cutler will be signing a different tune. The Broncos are known as a first class organization, and as long as the replacement coach isn’t a complete joke, players will still want to come here.
"Don't be an ass!" --Bill King
by batgirl on Dec 30, 2008 8:35 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs