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SunnySide? Shanahan Finale

Is there a SunnySide?

You have to wonder. Like all, on both sides of the issue, my first response was total shock as I beheld Stinky Schlereth trying to talk it through on ESPN  But, I can see a SunnySide.

Like most, I think that Pat Bowlen has something not too far up his sleeve. I don't know who or what. Although I fear the eternal revolving coaches that so many teams suffer from, after a few hours reflection, I had to admit – after 3 seasons like the last three, and three games like the stinkers we ended on, anyone but a Coach For Life would be polishing his resume. But, although I'm not sure that I agree with the decision, I’m starting to see why.

Simple things - Tackling is a fundamental. We don’t. So is gap discipline. We don’t have any. Period. We use very good man CBs in the worst ways we can. We keep trying to play to not lose and our players don't seem to have any motivation. We generally don't put the time, effort and draft capital into our D. And I have to ask myself why.

Several defensive players have noted that they don’t create the schemes, just play the games and you hate to hear that from your guys. That doesn’t excuse the lamentable lack of fundamentals that we saw all year, though, and it makes the issue worse. The D has no personality, and one of the MHRs own rightly noted earlier this year that you have to have a program. We have one on offense, but the other two areas? No. Our ST is as execrable as the D and no matter how nice Scottie Obrien is and how cool his computer presentations are, he's not getting it done.

The D didn’t know if it was a 3-4 or a 4-3 and to this day I’m not sure, because if that was a 4-3 it was one frighteningly bizarre version of one. From our dalliance with Cover-8 to the incessant playing of quality man CBs 10 yards off the ball and one of the games top gambling CBs playing constantly without safety help, to our refusal to blitz when it WAS working? This became theatre of the absurd, and whatever else Pat is, he’s a football man and he knows more about the game than most owners. It had to gall him. Slowik wasn't getting it done.

The players are talking about not making the decisions. The fans are wondering who is – and why. Consider, for a minute, our constant, weird knee jerk moves on personnel. If we look at the past few years, no one, repeat NO ONE has been able to explain our personnel moves. A safety goes from practice squad to starter to fired in 10 days – as if you fire people for not being better than being on the practice squad would indicate. What the heck is that? Looking at the jumps to take flyers on the old, the weak of character and the injury-prone, the has-beens and never-weres, we as fans have taken the bad with the tremendous good Mike could bring. I believe that Pat made the decision that the good, great as it has and can be, isn’t cutting it against the bad. And he may well be right.

Last year had a lasting and odious effect on our d line. It may take some years to negate – and although it’s true that it was Bates, Shanahan sat and signed off on each increasingly bizarre decision. Remember how they seemed to be coming faster and faster? It led unerringly to this year, when we couldn’t pressure a QB to save our bacon, and that sizzling sound we heard was opposing QBs and RBs having record weeks. And if we think back, that’s been going on for years, too. I think that our last really good DC was Greg Robinson, and he was fired after a successful season. I’ve never quite gotten over that one, but I have to admit – after some reflection, it’s been a pattern with Mike that I don’t understand. He has one of the best O minds in the game and deserves the HOF seat that he will almost certainly get, yet he seems almost contemptuous about his defenses. But our D is setting records, and they’re not the kind we accept here in Broncoland. That has to stop, and I hope that one outcome of today is that it will.

Whether Spencer Larsen is a potentially solid starting MLB in today’s NFL will never be answered with him either sitting at FB or recovering from trying to play as a three way guy. You know why it isn’t done anymore? It’s because you’ll kill the guy who has the guts to say, "Anything you want, coach." And that’s why he was sitting on the bench, injured, while Nate Webster showed us in that brutal final game why no one else would ever start him. And we all had to wonder, even those, like me, who believed that with a change to HC instead of Lord of the Manor and with a gutsy DC, with the Goodman’s reminding us why we used to look forward to the draft, that we could still hammer our way to the playoffs and deep into them and perhaps to the land beyond.

In the end, to me it came down to five questions. I believe that the MHR faithful are the best informed football fans on the web, so I’m asking what you think. In each, the 1st options taken together would, I believe, take us to the Super. The second options would take us to the cellar. If it’s the #2’s, Bowlen was right.

1. Shanahan would have let the Goodman’s get us the players we needed OR He would always make plays for the offense at the expense of the D

2. Jay Cutler is progressing well OR Jay Cutler is leveling off or regressing in his growth

3. Mike would have let a top DC build the other side of the ball OR He wouldn’t

4. The players are willing to play their hearts out for Shanahan and his staff OR They’re not

5. Those taken together - Bowlen was right OR

He wasn’t.

 

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Wells here's my take

1. Shanahan has always had the final say on all players, he has always been focused more on triangle numbers than wether or not a guy is a football player, so I am guessing we would of had a defensive havy draft, but wouldit prduce players like this year’s draft,i doubt it. I am guessing it would of been filled with great athletes that lack instincts nd would not of been a rousing success.

2. I would say prgressing, but he still has many things to learn like game management and understanding situations, I know Mike can teach him that, but would Jay listen, I don’t know but I have my doubts.

3. He said he wouldn’t fire Slowvik so I am guesing no.

4. They’re not

5. Bowlen was right

"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
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by Broncoman on Dec 30, 2008 11:44 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No there is no sunny side!

This was an incredibly stupid decision based on the emotional impact of losing the SD game and the lead in the division.

If Bowlen can’t see that Shanahan clearly had this team on the right track then he should sell the team.

Broncos nation will regret this decision for a long time to come.

I am the eggman...they are the eggman...I am the Mermaid...Goo Goo Gajoob!!!

by PosterNutbag on Dec 31, 2008 12:01 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Agree... Without a doubt.

I agree with every single paragraph…

-First, you are right about our players having ZERO motivaiton, this team comes out very flat, they did not put together 4 quarters of football all year long.

-Second, I play HS football and I’m a Noseguard. Our coaches have always taught us Gap Control. You strike, keep your head up and control your gap. Our d-line was cheating ussaly picking a gap, over-pursing , or just plain getting blown off the ball.

-Third, you were right on the point about our defensive schemes, and the fact the shanny reportedly wanted to keep Bob Slowik(DCOR) scares me.

-Fourth, you are exactly right about or invisible D-Line. Getting absouletly no pass rush doesnt help much in the secondary either.

Awnsers to Q’s

1. He has made plays for the Defense with the Jarvis Moss’s and the Dre Bly’s but they were all BUSTS.

2. Jay is progressing… But, he needs to make smarter throws in the Red Zone silly throughs have killed us ALL year long, from the first game against SD until the last one when we were starting to drive before half and he threw a pick.

3. Shanny told bowlen that he wasn’t firing that chump slowik and that is what I believe ultimatley got him the boot.

4. I don’t believe so… I think the players look up to him and respect him and don’t have the essential personal realationship you need with every coach.

5. Sometimes the hardest move is the right move, and I believe it was in this situation.

(It would kill me to see shanny go to the chargers)

We will miss you Shanny!

by BroncosKid on Dec 31, 2008 12:07 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1. Shanahan would have let the Goodman’s get us the players we needed OR He would always make plays for the offense at the expense of the D

The jury is out, I believe. It’s possible he learned his lesson and doesn’t have an eye for defensive talent. If he had he would’ve let the Goodman’s get the players we need, but I don’t believe it.

2. Jay Cutler is progressing well OR Jay Cutler is leveling off or regressing in his growth

I think he levelled off. He certainly knows the scheme, has a great arm, I think he’s a good leader, but still has some growing up to do.

3. Mike would have let a top DC build the other side of the ball OR He wouldn’t

He wouldn’t. He’s a megalomaniac who wanted a yes man at DC, hence the firings of so many recent coordinators.

4. The players are willing to play their hearts out for Shanahan and his staff OR They’re not

I do not believe they were prepared to go out there and play hard each and every game.

5. Those taken together – Bowlen was right OR He wasn’t.

As much as this stung, when I first read of the firing, I’ve come to grips with it and agree with it. Especially in light of the nepotism post and looking back at all of the strange personell decisions he has made recently.

by CalgaryFan on Dec 31, 2008 9:19 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My take

1) Shanahan would have let the Goodmans get the players we needed

2) Jay is progressing well

3) He wouldn’t (I think this is the key reason he got fired)

4) yes for the offense, no for the defense

5) Bowlen was right

I don’t want breakaway speed. I want break-some-poor-fool-as-I-bowl-you-over power getting 6 yards off a play that should have been stopped for 2 at most.

by sadaraine on Dec 31, 2008 9:23 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bowlen made the right decision.

Just on CUTLER its a frickin miracle he is.500 in his career. Consider the RB situation and since Jay has started at QB the D has gven up an average of 27 points again.
Jay is unbelievable….unfortunately he is now used to throwing into tight areas and taking chances because it has been ion the ) to win games.
I hope this habit can be overcome with a good run game and a b etter D

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.

by boydy2669 on Dec 31, 2008 10:12 AM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Answers to Brother Bear

1. Shanahan would have let the Goodman’s get us the players we needed OR He would always make plays for the offense at the expense of the D.

- I think the draft focus would have been mainly on the defense.

2. Jay Cutler is progressing well OR Jay Cutler is leveling off or regressing in his growth

- I think he is progressing. He was the AFC leader in Yardage and had a respectable 86.0 rating.

3. Mike would have let a top DC build the other side of the ball OR He wouldn’t

- He would have stuck with Slowik

4. The players are willing to play their hearts out for Shanahan and his staff OR They’re not

- The rookies were willing to play. See Larson. Not so sure about the veterans.

5. Those taken together – Bowlen was right OR He wasn’t

- Time will tell. I will wait until I can use the amazing power of “hindsight” in order to have the correct answer.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one’s own way.

by wyoeng on Jan 1, 2009 8:48 PM MST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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