NFL and money
This is something I've been wondering about as I've been learning more about football as an institution and corporation. Obviously, the NFL has a salary cap and baseball doesn't...is the salary cap for the whole team? So they can choose to spread individual salaries as they please? I think it's definitely something that baseball needs (I'm a huge baseball fan) - see: New York Yankees, esp. Alex Rodriguez's contract (yikes). What do you think of the salary cap? Does it work? Should it be in place?
With the onset of the offseason, there were a couple articles about players and money that caught my eye. One was talking about the Giants and how they might look really different next year, because all the players will use their rings to go out and shop for a lot of money from other teams. This struck me as unbelievably mercenary, so I have to ask; is that common? Or is that the journalism world putting words into mouths? The other ones I've noticed have all been about Asante Samuel and how salaries of CB's are going to rocket sky high because of him demanding a higher price. Obviously, in every professional sport, you have overpaid players, but what do you guys think of the skyrocketing salaries? Are they worth it, or is it the name that matters? I guess the answer will vary with everyone's opinion, but do you think prices go up needlessly for certain players and overblown reputations?
Thanks!
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I like the salary cap in football,
The Broncos still have a better than average cap level because they are no longer a small market team. At least, that is what I believe is the case...I am often wrong, so wait till SG, HT, Styg or many of the others here to answer your questions more thoroughly. ;)
by Tim Lynch on Feb 21, 2008 4:43 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I like the cap too.
If my little team were to get a great player, the Yankees only need to buy him away.
Not so in football. Each team has to be smart because they are all playing with the same amount of salary money.
Another thing I like is that it keeps individual salaries from getting ridiculous. Let's say a Manning or a Samual demands a new record contract. A team has to determine if they are willing to proportionatly drop the rest of the team's salaries to make it happen.
The cap is a prime reason why football is doing so well compared to other sports.
by Steve Nichols on Feb 21, 2008 5:13 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
I love the cap
It is very common for players bank on the success of the team they just left in free agency. It IS unbelievably mercanary, but you have to think of the league as a business. No player owes loyalty to any team, and no team owes loyalty to any player. At all times each side is thinking entirely about what is best for them. That being said I think free agency is the reason for the success of the NFL. Even a team as talented as the Patriots will eventually have to rebuild, and even a team that missed the playoffs like the Broncos can make a few key moves and be right back in it. That is the beauty of the NFL.
by Papamag on Feb 21, 2008 8:03 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
A lot could be said
For example, the salary cap and collective bargaining go hand-in-hand. Collective bargaining is where individual corporations are allowed to pool their resources for specific advantages, in the NFL's case, TV contracts and the like. This is typically forbidden under anti-trust legislation passed back in President Hoover's day (for better or worse), but collective bargaining gets around those federal legal limitations.
The salary cap links to collective bargaining at the point where the television revenue must be divided up among the teams, which is also a complex issue.
If you have specific questions about the salary cap, you should probably aim them at MattR, who seems to have the most thorough understanding of the cap here at MHR (and he tends to have the numbers at his fingertips, though I don't doubt he makes it look a lot easier than it is :)).
Regarding some of your questions: the cap is for the entire team, no player is exempt. It does not, however affect coaching staffs (see Redskins) or front offices. The cap is the same for every team in the league, and has been growing by a few million every year. I think it may be at 110mil/year? On top of that, there is talk that unless the league gets some negotiations with the players hashed out in the near future, the possibility of an uncapped season in 2010, I think, is very real. There are lots of nuances that teams take advantage of, regarding spreading players salaries out over time, or paying them in the form of bonuses (which may or may not count directly against the cap).
Regarding Samuels, they had the same discussion last year about Nate Clemens, who was signed by the 49ers for a record amount for a CB...My own opinion is that the economics are still relatively laissez-faire in regards to player salaries: some teams will overpay and get caught up in having to have the best player at a position, but the trend against that is to cultivate your own value when the price gets too high, thus driving the prices back down to reasonable market levels. Still, every so often you see a player get a deal that signals the begining of a new era in paying that position. An example of this would be Peyton Manning's contract.
And a trend that you will get used to in the NFL is that every year the Superbowl winners get their free agents picked clean. There isn't a logical explanation, though there are some psychological theories, but for the last several years now, the NFL World Champion has had a lot of trouble keeping all of their free agents. I guess the FAs look better with a ring on!
Lastly, in the spirit of full disclosure, you should know that the Broncos under Shanahan got into Patriot-like trouble several years ago with their own "creative" practices of keeping the team "under the cap." It cost them a third round draft pick, which the league made them forfeit, much like the Patriots are forfeiting their 1st rounder this year. I'm sure some of the MHR guys and gals who recall it better than I do can give you more details. The caveat is that the teams were still in the infancy of the cap and figuring out how it worked. Denver's particular way of 'tweaking' the cap was found to be unacceptable AFTER the fact.
Bonus: I just keep thinking of things to say here...lastly I wanted to bring up the practice squad. Every NFL team is allowed to have a practice squad that has several young players on it. The rules regarding player eligibility revolve around how much time they have actually spent on the NFL field. It is a recent development which teams are still figuring out how to work to their best advantage. These players are in addition to the regular 53-man roster which is governed by the salary cap, so I think these players may not count against the cap. I could be wrong on that point though.
by Jeremy Bolander on Feb 21, 2008 9:51 PM MST reply actions 0 recs
The show...
But I'm REALLY excited as to the direction it's going! Now I just need to recover from all the energy I put into the sneak...
by Squeaky on Feb 21, 2008 10:10 PM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Solid summary
(Disclaimer: I am calculating the numbers myself based on the best available info and some educated guesses. Unfortunately, I can''t find anywhere that has all the details that I need. If anyone has disagreements, different info or additional info please let me know)
by MattR on Feb 22, 2008 9:58 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
I look forward to your upcoming post,
by Tim Lynch on Feb 22, 2008 10:24 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Salary Cap diary is posted
Please post any questions, comments, thoughts, ideas, etc..
by MattR on Feb 22, 2008 11:27 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
oops, and here is the link
I wish we could undo comments in the first 30 seconds they are posted.
by MattR on Feb 22, 2008 11:28 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Denver's cap violations
The reason this is relevant is that I am pretty sure that Denver's violations had to do with circumventing the debt ratio. I think that they were fined once for going over the limit (or perhaps not contributing the proper percentage to a league held fund). The second time they were punished for not reporting deferred bonus money that should have counted against the debt limit. This all occurred as the team was trying to finance the new stadium so they had a bit of a cash flow crunch at the time (and were therefore borrowing more than usual to cover bonuses).
This is all off the top of my head so I could be off on the details.
by MattR on Feb 22, 2008 10:06 AM MST up reply actions 0 recs
Just two small points
- The cap is good. Makes people responsible, and the game fair.
- Giants have all of their key players locked up, excpet for FS Wilson. They other guys are just scrubs and backups.
by amirebram on Feb 22, 2008 3:09 AM MST reply actions 0 recs

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