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MHR University- Extra Credit Option 3- Defensive Tackle

Something that the Denver Broncos are facing right now is which of our needs is the greatest? Our horrible Run Defense last year begs a Defensive Tackle, Matt Lepsis' Retirement, asks for an Offensive Tackle, B-Marsh's injury, Walker's defection to the raiders and Rod Smith's "Retirement" demand a Wide Receiver, Signing Boss and K2 are looked at as great but leave us with a Linebacker corps who are all roughly the same age and what are seen as stop gap solutions at Safety mean a little attention there may be required as well. I know I did something similar to this last week but this time I am going to focus more on those five areas. It seems that they are the five we focus most on in our diaries and comments. I want to break down who we have as well as the draft potential at each position. Without further ado......

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Defensive Tackle-

    With Bob Slowik taking over, you can bet his first thought is to keep his job. How does he do that? Keep Coach Mike happy! How do you keep Mike happy? Give the offense back the ball as soon as possible with out yielding points. In theory this can't be done because the other team has talent to score at least once. That being said, I'm sure Coach wouldn't mind the score of all games 28-7 with Denver having about 45 minuets of possession on the ball. Defensive Tackles is a position in which pressure ing the Quarterback and stamping the run out of the middle. For a great breakdown on  defensive gap assignments and what the jargon means check out HoosierTeacher's class on Defensive line. http://www.milehighreport.com/story/2008/3/2/3506/95671 With that I present the dilemma that is out Defensive Tackles:

     ~Marcus Thomas is young and dumb, but he can make an impact if given the chance.
     ~Alvin McKinnley is at best a rotational player and at normal a big fat guy who doesn't commit to anything but knocking a guy over.
     ~Mallard is unproven despite 4 years in the league.
     ~Peterson is unproven despite 6yrs in the league.
Those four are probably the ones that will roll out of camp on our line right now.

Marcus Thomas needs to spend more time in camp and less time in friends' cars. He has great potential and could very well be an elite defensive tackle in the next few years. He needs another player to compliment /push him in the rotation.

Alvin McKinnley makes me nervous on so many levels. He is a good rotational player but he lacks the work ethic to be a committed starter. Why is this a problem? Alvin currently IS our second starter in our base 4-3 defense. He could have a change up this season but I doubt it.

Mallard and Peterson get grouped together for me, because neither has stats to sepeak of despite their 4 and 6 year stints respectively in the NFL. Maybe they were signed to our squad because of Practice Squad performances seen by Coach and Co. Still not seeing more than depth with these guys or their potential.

Time to move on to the Draft:

Defensive Tackles:

Glenn Dorsey-
    After seeing Glenn Dorsey work out for a change, the perception has changed a bit in Dorsey's favor. He'll likely be chosen in the top five, but he's not a top-two candidate like he was prior to the combine. He will not be drafted or even targeted by the Broncos in my opinion because he is more of a NT than a 4-3 Tackle. It would be like Dwayne Robertson in New York and square peg in a round hole. Therefore this is all I write on him.

Sedrick Ellis-
    Sedrick Ellis rebounded from a horrendous combine to run a 5.05 and bench 36 reps at his Pro Day. It was shocking that Sedrick Ellis didn't follow up his incredible Senior Bowl with a stellar combine. Ellis was a man amongst boys at the Senior Bowl, effortlessly pushing the opposing offensive line around as if they were small children. Ellis was simply an unstoppable force. It wouldn't surprise me if the Dolphins or Rams took him first or second. That being said with the other candidates out there he could drop with trades and other needs and maybe get as low as #15. A very quick defensive tackle who loves getting to the quarterback, he had 4.5 sacks in each of the previous two seasons.

Kentwan Balmer-
    His bench numbers showed what he's best at - mauling opposing offensive linemen. I am not a huge fan of Combine workouts so his 40 time doesn't bother me too much. He has emerged as one of the top tacklers in college football. He is ideal for either the 3-4 or 4-3 schemes with his technique and skill set.

Trevor Laws-
    If it weren't for Sedrick Ellis, Laws might have shined as the most impressive defensive lineman at the Senior Bowl. He has been one of the few solid defenders for Notre Dame this season. We'll have to see how Trevor Laws plays without Derek Landri and Victor Abiamiri by his side. I think the guy would shine in a 4-3 system and surprise people with his power.

A DT breakdown:
http://walterfootball.com/draft2008DT.php

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Marcus Thomas isn't dumb. :(
And I saw McKinely get burned last year a few times.  We do need to pick up at least two DT in this draft.  Preferably in the first four rounds.

by Zappa on Apr 11, 2008 11:58 AM MDT   0 recs

Let me put it in perspective
I am young and dumb. I am also starting to realize it is time to grow up. McKinnley does nothing to settle my stomach on our line. I think we go for Ellis at #12 and get one in latter rounds.
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 11, 2008 12:02 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Isn't
I'm young and dumb only half of a phrase?  lol  

Anyway, I just peed on someone asking about Gerrard Warren, so I am definitely not an authority on DT.  If I don't like a guy, I just don't like them...no matter how good they might be.  The only DT I like on our team right now is Marcus Thomas.

So I am looking for at least two DT to be selected in the first 4 rounds this year. :)

by Zappa on Apr 11, 2008 2:12 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

The DTs (and I don't mean delirium tremens)
OK, first things first.  Jacksonville is a bad environment for Marcus Thomas.  I lived there for 6 years, and sociologically, it's a very tough place on young black athletes who have money.

His agent, Richard Burnoski, who was his football coach at Mandarin High School (a public school in an affluent area of the city, incidentally, that recruits football players from the poor black neighborhoods) indicated that he was advising Marcus to stay in Denver and bring his family out to see him there.  Jacksonville is definitely one of the 10 most fertile metro areas in the country for football players, and a lot don't make it in the pros, and turn to hustling.  If Marcus listens to his agent, he should be fine.

Marcus Thomas can do a standing backflip.  That only speaks to his athleticism, not his football skills, but it's impressive.  He also was the best player on the 2006 Florida team before his dismissal, and that team went on to dominate Ohio State to win the National Championship.  I'm personally high on Marcus's chances to be a Pro Bowl caliber player this year.  I thought he was the best DT in the draft last year, and I still think so.

I would take Dorsey or Ellis, by the way, over anybody else in the Draft, based on need.  The reason I come down so strongly for an OT is an assumption that neither Dorsey nor Ellis will be around at #12.  I'm going to respectfully disagree with Jon that Dorsey is a Nose Tackle.  I'd call him more of a two-gap 4-3 tackle, at least based on the way he was used at LSU.  He's not a 3-technique, penetrating type like Ellis is, but he commands a double-team, and he's dominant against the run.

"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS

by TedBartlett905 on Apr 11, 2008 2:14 PM MDT   0 recs

Marcus Thomas can be a great one.
He just needs to stop being dumb.  I thought he had tremendous value when we drafted him in the 4th round and so I still have very high hopes for him.

by Zappa on Apr 11, 2008 2:23 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Sounds Fair
I like thomas a lot. he needs to get his head on straight for sure. I think we are gonig to have to agree to disagree on dorsey. I truly do beleive he will find his place on a 3-4 team and ellis on a 4-3. I think we could end up with Ellis based on other teams needs and wants.
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 11, 2008 2:23 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Well,
if Dorsey is a 3-4 guy then you can count on the Jets or Rams trying to nab him rather quickly.

by Zappa on Apr 11, 2008 2:32 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Ok, DT is a big need, but
I'm not stable with the offense and our future is on his right arm. I'd rather have him safe and putting up 28 pts agame and losing than us winning 14-10 and he gets hurt  because he gets crushed.
"Cutler is going to get pounded this year unless we build up the Offense!" -The VillynSun Apr 06, 2008 at 03:10:37 PM EDT

by broncodude793 on Apr 11, 2008 6:43 PM MDT   0 recs

The question becomes
Is Cutler safer with a better offensive line but a bad defense that makes him pass more often because they are behind and need to put up 28 points?  Or is he safer with a weaker O-Line but a defense that keeps the game close and allows Denver to run the ball more and pass when they want to?

by MattR on Apr 11, 2008 8:18 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Great Point Matt
It is not my intent to point where I THINK we should go but all the areas that need to be addressed. Matt who is a salary cap expert and other are the ones with more knowledge in this area. If I had my way, and this is me looking at us snagging everyone I want regardless of how they come, I would want 2 Defensive Tackles, 2 Offensive Lineman, 1 Linebacker, 2 Wide Receivers, and 2 Defensive Back or Corner Backs. Thats what I would like to see us come out with in our 9 picks. Do I think that will happen? Good chance but probably not. I agree we need to protect Cutler, but I think the best way to do that is to provide a defense that gives him the freedom to run the ball, pass the ball, have others run the ball or even pull some trick plays out in his 45 min of time with the pigskin.(IDEAL)
Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 11, 2008 11:46 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

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