S.I. Agrees, This Draft Is Very Important To The Broncos.
I have been saying for months now that this draft is easily the most important in Mike Shanahan's tenure with the team. S.I.'s Don Banks seems to agree with me. He breaks down the 5 teams with the most on the line this draft, and it shouldn't take long to figure out who is Number 1 on his list --
Denver's recent track record is spotty at best when it comes to identifying talent and building a roster. All those swings and misses on the defensive line. All those chances taken on players who came with some baggage in tow. The Broncos have nine overall picks, including two in the fourth, fifth and seventh rounds, but how they use their first two selections (No. 12 and 42 overall) will be huge.
They have to replace retired offensive tackle Matt Lepsis if they hope to re-solidify their line and keep quarterback Jay Cutler's development going. And they have to again shop for an impact player in the middle of their defensive line, which is a key to their defensive improvement. In addition, the offseason arm injury suffered by No. 1 receiver Brandon Marshall could force the Broncos to spend their second-round pick on another pass-catcher.
With the talent gap only widening between two-time defending division champion San Diego and the rest of the AFC West, the Broncos and Shanahan don't have any margin for error.
The pressure will only continue to mount as we get closer to April 25.
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by Zappa on Apr 11, 2008 1:12 PM MDT 0 recs
OT
As far as I can tell, either no one in the national media remembers who we spend our third round pick on last season, or no one outside of Denver thinks Harris has a chance to pan out.
It's not so much this specific article, just building frustration. It doesn't bother me people have the Broncos taking OT's in the first round despite the fact that they never take linemen in the first round. It bothers me that I can't find any mock drafts that don't have us taking an OT. Even when we have to reach for either Williams or Otah with the 12th pick. I'd have to think that Shanny wouldn't reach for an OT in the first round, regardless of whether Harris has mysteriously vanished or not.
by Jack on Apr 11, 2008 4:06 PM MDT 0 recs
I'm here for you Jack! : )
Either way, I am with you that Denver can get a great OT (or any OL) by going mid round or later. The key (as I've said again and again) isn't how good the OL is or how high in the draft he is, so much as whether or not he can play in our system. This is indicated by either a zon block background or (more importantly) having quick speed in small space and good agility.
by hoosierteacher on
Apr 11, 2008 5:50 PM MDT
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Ok, Ht, Zappa, Jack, someone,
by broncodude793 on Apr 11, 2008 6:39 PM MDT 0 recs
I would have to say both.
But yea, defense is our biggest need right. K2 is a temporary solution, as is Boss. Lynch will need an adequate replacement. Bailey and Bly ain't getting any younger either you know. With a solid DT in this draft, we will have the DL set for many years to come.
We also need a KR/PR.
lol, no wonder Guru got all up in arms when I said things weren't all that bad. When you start listing our needs, they sure pile up quickly. I think we'll figure out a way to start winning again though. We are the Broncos after all. Top 5 win percentage over the past 35 years...we'll be okay. Hopefully in a year or two we'll be GREAT rather than "okay". Only time will tell.
At least we're not screwed like the Raiduhs or Chefs. ;) You gotta look on the bright side of things every now and then.
by Zappa on
Apr 11, 2008 7:19 PM MDT
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K2 not temporary solution
by firstfan on
Apr 11, 2008 10:19 PM MDT
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I hope you are right!
by Zappa on
Apr 11, 2008 10:31 PM MDT
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Good call First
by hoosierteacher on
Apr 12, 2008 9:24 AM MDT
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My take dude
The defense is screwed without at least one solid DT, and without a good #2 receiver I don't believe Marshall and Cutler will be as effective as we want.
I also think we have decent starters on the OL, but zero depth and a couple of injury probabilities.
But I also have some odd views (see my most recent University article). I believe that Denver has fooled some critics and put together a LB corps that will shock our opponents. I also think that we may go tackle, but possibly guard in the draft for OL. Safety is covered by stop-gap players for now, but even at that we are still improved over last year. I also won't be surprised to see a RB to go along with Henry (Mendenhall looks like a potential workhorse/power back).
by hoosierteacher on
Apr 11, 2008 7:36 PM MDT
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HT!
by Zappa on
Apr 11, 2008 7:52 PM MDT
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Felix Jones
They almost have TOO MUCH leverage to do that, but he is pure Denver bliss...
by styg50 on
Apr 11, 2008 9:01 PM MDT
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There are several good...
As much as I would like a speed type WR to compliment Marshall, I also want a power/bruising/workhorse RB if we bring one in.
Young and Hall have the speed (if not the endurance). And while I've been Henry's biggest advocate, he is the one player in our RB committee most likely to get hurt (and the only true power/workhorse back in our top three). So if we take a running back, PLEASE let it be a juggernaut type!
by hoosierteacher on
Apr 12, 2008 9:42 AM MDT
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Offensive line
I'd just like to see someone outside of Denver think that maybe there might be a position other than OT that we might draft early.
by Jack on
Apr 11, 2008 9:11 PM MDT
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Guard
by firstfan on
Apr 11, 2008 10:21 PM MDT
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No worries
Herm Edwards reasoning will be: "We didn't want to pay a guard that kind of money." :)
by styg50 on
Apr 11, 2008 10:42 PM MDT
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Their reasoning is what kills me
A) We needed a LT before Lepsis retired.
B) We have a 3rd round LT.
The most credit I will give someone is if they say we need a LT because Cutler is so important.
They score points for understanding that at least....
by styg50 on
Apr 11, 2008 10:39 PM MDT
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is this a thought
by jaykwon305 on Apr 13, 2008 1:21 PM MDT 0 recs
Welcome aboard, J!!!
- Henry: I am a fan of any soul that takes it upon themselves to recreate their foundation and make the right choices. I wish this kind of strength of character for Henry, but I have to admit that he has had more opportunity and less results than people with worse situations and less incentive. I have very little hope for him. And while his talent would be an upgrade, I can't help but think of how short term he would be, and Shanahan has definitely set his sites on the long term development of this franchise, especially since it has become obvious that supplementing Cutler's burgeoning talent with a boatload of big name veterans isn't the way for Denver to stay competitive. Shanahan looks to be going the other way, instead relying on youth and "blank slates" that can be written with a new "history of the Broncos".
- If we don't get Robertson, we need to get someone like him. Mckinley is the only veteran DT on this team with significant playing time. Even if we add rookies, it wouldn't be unreasonable if those rookies really wore down by the end of the year. A roster of 4 and 5 year veterans can afford a nip and tuck rotation, but we will be relying on probably two first year players and two second year players, so we definitely need more run stopping veterans in the mix, or our runstopping line at the end of the year will consist of a very tired rookie and undersized pass rushing spoecialists. Not good. At this point in time, I feel Robertson is worth a fourth and fifth rounder, which is probably what it would cost us to move up into the third with our #108 to nab DT Ahtyba Rubin. I would love to hear that we are actually looking at trading a 6th and seventh for him, but I have to admit he is worth more than that, especially to Denver.
by styg50 on
Apr 13, 2008 3:27 PM MDT
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I like getting Robertson AND Rubin
If nobody new works out at DT we MUST have someone current step up. I don't see McKinley doing it at this point in his career, so it would have to be Thomas (which is possible, being a young man who held his own last year).
But you make a great point on the need for a veteran presence at DT. K2 has a leadership reputation, and we know that Lynch and Bailey are leaders too. This is entirely "out there", but my experience is that DTs need leadership from within (from another DT). It was my experience that OLs need another "OL leader", and the DTs need a "DT leader". I know that I'm generalizing, but it seemed to me that DTs take leadership from other DTs more so than from DEs. My guess is that this is because the DTs work together more closely than they do with the rest of the d-line, much in the same way that OLs all work together.
OLs also work more closely together in zone blocking (which is what they ran in the HS program I worked with).
I'm not as concerned about the rookies wearing down by the end of the year. In a game the bigger DLs wear down (2 gap types and DTs in general). This is why rotation is so important. Training at altitude gives our DL a slight edge in endurance training (regardless of the altitude they play in). In terms of a season I think "mass" has less to do with it than does age, where I believe that it is the veterans that wear down more.
by hoosierteacher on
Apr 13, 2008 4:44 PM MDT
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Glad you're here Jay!
- No on Henry. I know he's a terrific WR, but as bad as Denver got burned in FA last year (and as much legal troubles as our guys were in last year) there's no way Shanahan (or Bowlen) allow Chris Henry to happen. I hear your points, I just don't think our management will take the risks (even with the contract you propose).
- I'm ok with the Robertson trade, and I believe something is in place. There are just too many rumours floating for something not to be there. But the trade is set for draft weekend, and I think it will depend on what happens for Denver (or NYJ) in the draft. It may or may not go through.
- I don't want to trade up for Ellis, but Shanahan has a history of trading up for who he wants, and DT is critical. If we stay, your idea of Williams is pretty popular on several mock draft boards. I don't know about a RB in the 2nd, but if you read my article (the University article) you'll see that I have a gut feeling that Mike might surprise us and get a RB after all, so who knows?
by hoosierteacher on Apr 13, 2008 2:01 PM MDT 0 recs













