The 2008 NFL Draft Day Open Thread -- 1st Round(11-20)
by John Bena on Apr 26, 2008 2:16 PM MDT
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PrintWelcome Back! The Broncos are only 1 pick away and every one of the OL's are still on the board. TRADE DOWN!!!
#11 Buffalo Bills -- CB Leodis McKelvin -- The Bills undoubtedly tried to move down. Reaching for a WR here would have been a huge reach so the Bills made the wise move taking the best DB on the board. Remember, the Bills play against Tom Brady twice a year. Nice move for the Bills.
ON THE CLOCK -- THE DENVER BRONCOS!
#12 Denver Broncos -- OT Ryan Clady -- I guess we had to know this pick was coming when all these linemen fell. Clady and the Broncos have been connected at the hip during this entire process. I said on MHR Radio that O-Line would be the safe pick. It turned out that the Broncos decided to stay safe. Styg50 will have his thoughts ASAP.
#13 Carolina Panthers -- RB Jonathon Stewart -- The Panthers waste no time taking the card with Stewart's name to the commish. Stewart has questions, mostly about health, but still projects to be a solid RB in the NFL. There was a smattering of boos form Panthers' fans when the pick was announced.
#14 Chicago Bears -- OT Chris Williams -- Many thought the Bears would go Running Back here, but to their credit they made the smart move, choosing to solidify the O-Line. I am a bit surprised that the Pick was Williams, but the Bears needed a lineman and they got one.
#15 Kansas City Chiefs -- OL Brandon Albert -- The Chiefs, easily the most active of the teams in this draft, make another move to get help for their O-Line. When Williams went to the Bears, you had to imagine that the Chiefs were ecstatic. Albert fits what they do to a T.
#16 Arizona Cardinals -- D. Rodgers-Cromartie -- The Cardinals needed some serious help for their pass defense, and Cromartie might be the best DB in the draft. There are some health concerns, but if he stays healthy Cromartie is the real deal.
#17 Detroit Lions -- OT Gosder Cherlius -- A bit of a surprise here, with Rashard Mendenhall still on the board. The Lions have a big hole in the backfield they must feel they can address later in the draft.
#18 Baltimore Ravens -- QB Joe Flacco -- The Ravens wanted Matt Ryan. The Falcons ended all talk about that. To their credit, they didn't panic and made the bold move with the Jags to move lower in the draft until the right moment. It came at 18, with the Ravens moving back up to get their QB of their future.
#19 Carolina Panthers -- OT Jeff Otah -- Kudos to the Panthers. First, the Panthers were able to get much needed help at running back. They then come right back to nab much needed help along the O-Line. Solid draft for the Panthers.
#20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- CB Aqib Talb -- A bit of s surprise. The Bucs need playmakers and all the Wide Receivers are still on the board. Gruden went defense instead, and hopes to have found a replacement for Brian Kelly.
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trade OUT methinks...
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:19 PM MDT up reply actions
12th until I traded down!!
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:18 PM MDT reply actions
buffalo selects leodis mckelvin
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Mushi mushi?
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Welcome aboard!
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:21 PM MDT up reply actions
I am here.
I just changed my name to sirsam
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Braden Albert?
Ug, I really hate this pick.
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by Tim Lynch on Apr 26, 2008 2:24 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I Don't Hate It
But I certainly don’t like it.
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I don't hate Clady as a player
I was just not in love with him enough to be a first round pick. I think there was better value from trading down (or out).
after that pick I NEED a Beer
Davis to the Hall!
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Davis to the Hall!
Denver didn't have
Albert rated as high as I thought…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:26 PM MDT reply actions
the 12 pick worth is
$11 -$12 mil guaranteed. 6yr contract, that doesn’t seem bad… MattR, have you got any thoughts on cap space for this signing?
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions
My guess is it will end up being about
$15 million total for a 5 year contract with a voidable 6th year and about $10 million guaranteed over the first couple years and the potential for another 2-4 million in playing time or other incentives.
Oh that's perfect...
the pundits say he will not be a pro bowler until his 5th year…just in time for Shanny to cut him. :)
Forget the Foster comparison's guys
that argument went the way of the dodo.
Clady is ten times the player that Foster was, and he has a meanstreak and a chip on his shoulder to match.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:28 PM MDT reply actions
For every give there
is a take. Johnson is the flip side of a Clady pick. :)
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Stewart > Mendenhall.
Nice pick, Carolina.
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Agreed
though I swear they got the cards mixed up.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I love the Clady Pick
I am in the minority on MHR, but remember who told you this was the right thing to do when Clady makes the Pro Bowl. This was the best case scenario, and the right pick to make.
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS
I don't think Clady is
a minority pick here, mostly because I don’t think that MHR works that way.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions
L love it, too
Isn’t Clady the first time Shanny’s ever taken an o-lineman in the first? Shows you how highly he thinks of him. I don’t necessarily think he’ll start at LT right away, but I think he’ll end up there, and be an all-pro, sooner rather than later.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
George Foster
was technically an O-lineman, but he blocked like Jeb Putzier.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions
We reached
for Foster in the first before. Most scouts had Foster ranked at the top of the second, so, i a way, you are probably right, seeing as how he didn’t pan out anyways.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions
mdierk says hello
and also that we need Clady to be ready to be a star this year…not 5 years from now like Maylock says.
I wasn't sure about the jump to the NFl
but the fact that Denver thought he was worth a #12 says that they think he is ready, and I will take their word on an olineman as athletically gifted as Clady.
He knows that no one believes in him, and that is part of what will make him a starter before the end of 2008.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions
They're really building it up
Illinois guy in Chicago? Chicago will need either a RB or a lineman. One of the two. They can still get linemen later
You'll feel better
after he becomes a perennial all-pro.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
Any trade requires two willing partners. Maybe the Broncos couldn’t swing it. Let us all give Clady a chance to play before we write him off as a bust.
I'm just sad
because I wanted to trade down. A third rounder would have been really great…
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions
Good point
the two trades ahead of us probably exhaused the interest of teams wanting to trade up near 12.
Keep in mind that the smokescreen laid out before the draft helped prompt teams to move ahead of us. This looks very much like The Broncos goal for the #12, to pick Clady…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions
That's right
We’ve been talking about Clady and Williams here since forever. No surprise, but perhaps that’s just because it really was the smart move. My only question was, who did Shanny like best, Clady or Williams? Now we know.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
Right as the commish was walking up
I turned to my friend and was like “Chris Williams”. He started laughing when it was announced.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I honestly think they would have been better off with Mendenhall over Williams.
bit of a reach I think…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Detroit and Chicago in the same boat...
RB or OT here.
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I like Otah here.
Especially if they still have a lovefest with Tatum breaking Bell.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions
We'll be talking Mendenhall for a while then
CAR, DET, ARI, and even HOU are the running back need teams comin up
being here in Houston
its fun to listen to the fans try to learn the kind of RBs needed to succeed in the ZB scheme. very interesting. I think Mendenhall would be a great Texan.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions
My god, if Houston
gets mendehall…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:41 PM MDT reply actions
Great Draft for the Chiefs...
This could be a long day for us Broncos fans…
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Otah to the chiefs
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:43 PM MDT reply actions
speculating..
sorry guys
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Whoops,
I say albert as well, I forgot he wasn’t taken already…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 2:44 PM MDT up reply actions
They got Dorsey and Albert...
They have to be thrilled with this draft so far.
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Trying
to win the game in the trenches, amirite.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions
If the NFL.com draft tracker
isn’t lying to me, that means the Chiefs get two first-round picks practically back to back (what slot did they give to the Lions?)
Just make it stop.
I'm guessing nfl.com has not fully updated
99.9% chance that KC gave up the 17 to Detroit as part of the trade, but they may not update it until they get all the details entered.
wooWOO
It’ll be fun to watch our D-men annihilating Albert. That’s right, I’m not sold on him as a tackle, meaning he can go back to being a guard…drafted 15th overall.
If the NFL.com draft tracker
isn’t lying to me, that means the Chiefs get two first-round picks practically back to back (what slot did they give to the Lions?)
Just make it stop.
I say corner
just because I want to see Mendenhall in Houston =D
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:47 PM MDT up reply actions
CB?
The Cards could use a corner here and there are some good ones.
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The run
really hasn’t begun yet. I’m looking forward to this.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:49 PM MDT up reply actions
If KC kept #17.
They’d go CB there and blow this thing out of the water.
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Nevermind.
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I just celebrated
because I was getting nervous they would have kept it and Matt Millen would have dropped out entirely.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
I made a WR joke earlier
about DeSean Jackson hanging up on Millen if he called him to be like “Hey! We’re picking you!” Think about it, though. They draft jackson, trade Roy Williams to to Dallas for the 22nd pick, then they could draft Limas Sweed. Now THAT is how you rebuild a WR corps. HEAR ME MILLEN?
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Looks like
Houston can get Mendenhall if they want him.
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cards take dominique rodgers-cromarte
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OT.
Otah
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THANK YOU.
I knew you were going to give me the right answer. I’m just so hung up on the Mendenhall thing right now.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Who Knows...
I could see Houston inexplicably passing on him, maybe taking Mike Jenkins or something like that.
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Do not forget
Matt Millen’s five-step plan for success:
1. Draft a WR
2. Draft a WR
3. Draft a WR
4. ?!
5. SUPER BOWLZZZZ!!!
Just make it stop.
Ernie Sims.
Great pick there…
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Step 4
is the monumental leap from drafting in the top 6 to 15th. Next year is SUPER BOWLZZZZZ
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Watch
They could take Mike Jenkins.
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I think you might be right on.
I want Rashard here, but I think Jenkins makes more sense.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 3:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Right Position, Wrong Guy.
Cherilus ahead of Otah… wow.
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It's the Matt Millen
draft board at work! At least they minorly fleeced the Chiefs for those two spots.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 2:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Alright guys...
So who do we take in the second round?
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No Freaking Idea.
I’m gonna miss the pick, so I’ll hope for some miracle.
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Millen
is such a tool. He should have taken Mendenhall. Does he really think Bell is that good
by broncfanstuckinsd on Apr 26, 2008 2:59 PM MDT reply actions
Philly will take Otah.
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They had to be elated
when Cherilus was taken ahead of Otah…
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Its about fit
Cherilus is a much more athletic lineman than Otah.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 3:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Depends on if DET
plans on playing him RT or LT…. he was kinda pwned at the LT position.
Just make it stop.
He wil absolutely
be a RT, great point.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions
I did the chick thing and ate
a container of cookie dough ice cream after that Clady pick. lol didn’t sit well with all the beer I’ve drank though….....
haha
I got the chick sitting here watching it and am burning through teriyaki wings.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions
I was joking,...
the wife made me go buy ice cream for her last night…i just ate the rest of it. :P Those monthly cycles really take the years off the end of my life you know? ;)
Anyone else think the Cowboys might be
a little excited right now? 3 spots away from drafting Mendenhall for FREE! Freaking Clady!
Absolutely.
How about nobody reaching for a WR, though?
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions
i will say this
Mendehall is a fumbler. Even when they taught him to address heissue he kept fumbling. Where would you guys draft Cedric Benson, cause that could very well be what kind of player Mendenhall is in the NFL…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 3:08 PM MDT reply actions
I never saw him fumble...
that scares me. I don’t blame Shanny for not taking him then. :) Shanny hates fumbilitis more than anything I think
Right Guy, Wrong Team.
I keep getting half these picks right! Otah to the Panthers?
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you called it
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Military.
Guests from the armed forces on the stage.
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Yeah, lol
as soon as I posted it it showed up. Figures.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Well Done Panthers.
Stewart + Otah = Nice Draft So Far
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Time to go
Catch up with y’all later.
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Devin Thomas????
No way. I don’t wanna believe it. He’s so overrated.
by A.J. Haefele on Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Devin Thomas
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM MDT reply actions
or Limas Sweed
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM MDT reply actions
Highway Robbery.
Eagles just fleeced the Panthers hardcore!
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carolina got the 19
in exchange for a 2nd (#43) and 4th this year and a first next year.
I would have loved for Denver to have made that trade. Even for the 12 instead of the 19 it is a good deal.
Oh no...
Mendenhall to the ‘Boys???
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Would surprise me
They have Barber in the backfield and a bigger need at both CB and WR.
Just make it stop.
So I forget...
...is round 2 today too?
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Ah ok cool
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Interesting
Talib to to TB. I really didn’t know what to think of the Bucs pick. And now I’m stumped with Washington.
Washington needs a big wr
but they could also use a DE, so Merling maybe? Malcolm Kelly, or Limas Sweed?
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by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 26, 2008 3:25 PM MDT reply actions
Agree With the Needs.
Not sure about the names. Maybe Devin Thomas or Calais Campbell?
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Talib.
Talentwise, he’s probably the best in this draft, but he has a history of drug use (marijuana) and that hurt his stock.
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Atlanta???
Now I’m confused!
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Baker, huh?
Not very impressed with this move.
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I think you might be right
and just so everyone knows, there is a new thread up.
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