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The 2008 NFL Draft Day Open Thread -- 2nd Round

Time for the 2nd Round.  What will the Broncos do at #42??

#32 Miami Dolphins -- DE Phillip Merling, Clemson  Concerns about Merling's recovery from a sports hernia surgery dropped the talented ACC pass rusher out of the first round. With the first pick of the second round, however, the Dolphins added a big, physical defensive lineman that projects nicely outside to end in the 3-4 alignment.

#33 St Louis Rams -- WR Donnie Avery, Houston  Someone could have made a lot of money in betting that Donnie Avery would end up being the first receiver taken in the 2008 draft. Avery lacks the big name of some of the other highly rated receivers, but his stock has been skyrocketing in recent weeks and he fills a clear need as a slot receiver and returner for the Rams.

#34 Washington Redskins -- WR Devin Thomas, Michigan State  Once Jim Zorn was hired as the new head coach of the Washington Redskins, it was clear that the club would be adding taller receivers soon. The Redskins probably couldn't have anticipated that Devin Thomas would fall to this point, but in trading down, Washington played the board beautifully.

#35 Kansas City Chiefs  -- CB Brandon Flowers  With real needs at nearly every position, the Chiefs are in the enjoyable position of being able to take the best player available. With such a run on offensive tackles throughout the first round, the Chiefs shifted their focus to cornerback, adding Flowers, who is viewed by many as one of the toughest and most instinctive corners of the draft.

#36 Green Bay Packers  -- WR Jordy Nelson  Considering the young talent already on the roster, wide receiver is far from the Packers' greatest need. However, Jordy Nelson has been flying up draft boards all season long and ranked among the hottest prospects in the final weeks. A former walk-on strong safety, Nelson developed into an All-American receiver as a senior and impressed at the Senior Bowl and Combine.

#37 Atlanta Falcons  -- ILB Curtis Lofton  The Falcons may be a team in transition, but the players they're picking are the types of guys capable of building around. With their first two picks on the offensive side of the ball, middle linebacker Curtis Lofton steps in as a new face for the defense. Instinctive, physical, and athletic, Lofton should make an immediate impact.

#38 Seattle Seahawks  -- TE John Carlson, Notre Dame  The Seahawks hitched their wagon to the tired legs of Marcus Pollard at tight end last season to very marginal results. In aggressively trading up to get Carlson, the team adds the most NFL-ready tight end of the 2008 draft. What he lacks in upside, Carlson more than makes up for in consistency as a medium range target and inline blocker.

#39  SanFrancisco 49ers  --  OG Chilo Rachal, Southern Cal  For all of the concern over wide receiver, the 49ers biggest concern remains their offensive line. In Chilo Rachal, the club added an ascending talent capable of filling in some of the holes along their front. Considering Rachal's physicality, Frank Gore may be the happiest 49er after this move.

#40 New Orleans Saints  -- CB Tracy Porter, Indiana  Trading up to secure Sedrick Ellis did not - in itself - solve the Saints defensive problems. Adding an athlete with Tracy Porter's coverage skills, however, could go a long way in helping the Saints' defensive woes. Porter isn't as physical as scouts would prefer, but he has first round caliber agility and pure speed.

#41 Buffalo Bills  -- WR James Hardy, Indiana  An obvious area of need for the Bills was addressed with the selection of the 6-5, 217 pound Hardy to play opposite speedy playmaker Lee Evans. Hardy has rare athleticism for such a large receiver and has the strong hands and leaping ability to develop into one of the league's most productive red-zone targets.

  #42 Denver Broncos -- WR Eddie Royal, Virginia Tech

#43 Minnesota Vikings  -- SS Tyrell Johnson, Arkansas State  One of the fastest rising prospects over the last few weeks, Johnson was ranked by some clubs as the elite safety in the draft. A dominant player throughout his career at Arkansas State, Johnson was the most impressive safety in workouts, as well. Only questions about his level of competition pushed him this far down the board.

#44 Chicago Bears  --  RB Matt Forte, Tulane  With concerns regarding the consistency and intensity from Cedric Benson, the Bears added a speed back in Garrett Wolfe last year. In adding a bigger back in Forte with this pick, clearly the pressure is on Benson to step up his production.

#45 Detroit Lions  --  OLB Jordan Dizon, Colorado  Dizon's size and bulk issues limit him to Cover-2 type of alignments.  He is best served outside on the weak side. For all of his physical limitations, 463 tackles indicate he knows how to get to the ball.

#46 Cincinnatti Bengals  -- CB Jerome Simpson, Coastal Carolina  Could be considered as a Receiving threat.  Simpson has been viewed among the elite receiver prospects throughout the year. Considering the bizarre saga with Chad Johnson, receiver was an area of prime need for the Bengals.

#47 Philadelphia Eagles  -- DT Trevor Laws, Notre Dame    He works from the snap until the whistle on every play. Also, he plays with excellent leverage and is strong for his size. He's much more stout than you would think looking at his measurables.

#48 Washington Redskins  -- TE Fred Davis, Southern Cal  Chris Cooley doesn't have to look over his shoulder with the selection of Fred Davis, but for Jim Zorn's offense to work effectively, more traditional tight ends were needed. Davis, the Mackey Award winner, has the athleticism to move around, while also holding up at the point of attack as a run blocker.

#49 Philadelphia Eagles  --  WR Desean Jackson, California  It took a round later than expected, but Philadelphia added the dynamic receiver and returner they've needed throughout Donovan McNabb's entire career. Jackson, blessed with great timed speed and remarkable agility is one of the few receivers capable of making an immediate impact.

#50 Arizona Cardinals  -- DE Calais Campbell, Miami  If teams focused their film study of Calais Campbell on his sophomore season, he may have been a top 20 selection. In struggling with consistency throughout last season, however, the 6-8, 290 pound Campbell fell into Arizona's lap here. With his talent and size, the Cardinals could be the ones with the last laugh.

#51 Washington Redskins  --  WR Malcolm Kelly, Oklahoma  If there was any doubt as to how serious the Redskins were in adding size and athleticism to their receiving corps, the questions were answered throughout the second round. Kelly's stock dropped after poor Pro Day workouts and due to concerns about a lingering knee injury. At this point in the draft, however, Kelly was excellent value for the Redskins.

#52 Jacksonville Jaguars  -- OLB Quentin Groves, Auburn  Jacksonville entered the draft needing a speed rusher. After aggressively moving up to get Derrick Harvey in the first round, the team went to the well again, securing another speedy SEC pass rusher in Groves. There isn't a team in the league that made a greater improvement in their pass rush than the Jaguars via the first day of the draft.

#53 Pittsburgh Steelers  --  WR Limas Sweed, Texas  Big Ben lobbied for a red-zone target and got one with the Steelers drafting receiver Limas Sweed in the second round. Possessing first round caliber athleticism, Sweed dropped down the board due to concerns about his consistency while at Texas and a wrist injury that marred his senior season. At this point, however, Sweed provided excellent value.

#54 Tennessee Titans  -- DE Jason Jones, Eastern Michigan  The free agent losses of defensive ends Travis LaBoy and Antwan Odom made pass rusher an area of huge need for the Titans. Jones, a versatile defender capable of helping at end and tackle, helped himself with a solid performance against the nation's elite at the Senior Bowl.

#55 Baltimore Ravens  -- RB Ray Rice, Rutgers  The John Harbaugh stamp on the Baltimore Ravens was felt through the first two rounds of the 2008 draft as the skill position players for which the team will be built around were added. Rice, while undersized, is among the draft's most physical backs and is very similar to Jacksonville star, Maurice Jones-Drew.

#56 Green Bay Packers  -- QB Brian Brohm, Louisville  The Packers addressed their need for a backup quarterback with the selection of Brohm in the late second round. Like the player he'll be backing up -- Aaron Rodgers -- Brohm dropped significantly lower than projected. In Green Bay's version of the West Coast Offense, however, Brohm's ability to read defenses and accurately distribute the football makes him a nice fit.

#57 MiamiDolphins  --  QB Chadd Henne, Michigan  It came a round later than projected, but the Dolphins finally added some competition for John Beck with Chad Henne in the late second round. Some have knocked his composure in the pocket, but Henne is the draft's most talented pure passer. Henne also is the gutty leader Parcells has preferred throughout his career.

#58 Tampa Bay Buccaneers  -- WR Dexter Jackson, Appalaichan State   Considering that 36 year old Joey Galloway provided the only downfield threat for the Bucs over the past several years, the need was there for a dynamic receiver. In Dexter Jackson, Tampa Bay added a player with a history of stepping up his level of play each time he was challenged -- whether in the upset victory over Michigan, at the Shrine Game, the Senior Bowl, or the Combine, Jackson proved he deserved to be ranked among the elite receivers.

#59 Indianapolis Colts  -- C Mike Pollack, Arizona State  The run on offensive linemen was predominately reserved to the offensive tackles, but it is indicative of just how talented this year's offensive line prospects were with the Colts using their first and only pick of the draft's top two rounds on an offensive lineman. Pollak entered the year as a late round pick, at best, but improved his stock all season long, solidifying his status as the top pivot with a strong week at the Senior Bowl.

#60 Green Bay Packers  --  CB Patrick Lee, Auburn  The Packers were expected to address their lack of depth behind aging starters Al Harris and Charles Woodson early and with rising cornerback Patrick Lee, they did so. Lee only emerged as a starter as a senior, but he showed enough in his one season that teams are quite high on his upside. Coming into a situation like Green Bay, where he'll likely be able to sit and learn early, should pay huge dividends in Lee's development.

#61 Dallas Cowboys  --  TE Marcellus Bennett, Texas A&M  In trading Anthony Fasano to Miami, the Cowboys suddenly found themselves with a hole at the position. Possessing the best combination of size, athleticism, and strength, Martellus Bennett has unique upside among this year's tight end class. Certainly Jason Witten has nothing to worry about as the starter, but in Bennett, the Cowboys have an exciting developmental talent.

#62 New England Patriots  -- CB Terrence Wheatley, Colorado  The Patriots love speedy, physical defensive backs and in former Colorado corner Terrence Wheatley, they've found another one. Blessed with rare speed and toughness, Wheatley has been able to overcome his lack of prototype size to play well in the Big XII as both a corner and kick returner.

#63 New York Giants  -- CB Terrel Thomas, Southern Cal  The Giants were able to use their rotation along the defensive line to mask a questionable secondary. The selection of the versatile Thomas -- who has experience at both cornerback and safety -- gives the team a second athletic defensive back from the first day of the draft.



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Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 26, 2008 4:46 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As I said in the other thread

who had Donnie Avery as first WR taken?

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 4:46 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jon...

always getting schooled by atthehive

by Zappa on Apr 26, 2008 4:46 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess that would be

an endorsement of Brodie Croyle. Which is really funny.

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Apr 26, 2008 4:48 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No joke

I’m laughing, about that, but good lawd are they tearing it up.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 4:48 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think

I’m just trying to pretend that the Chief’s are NOT doing well…

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Apr 26, 2008 4:50 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the way this draft is going

they might be able to take Brian Brohm or Chad Henne in the third round :)

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 4:50 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...

Please don’t say such things. Please.

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Apr 26, 2008 4:51 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or

they can trade us Derrick Johnson for our fourth rounder. Plz.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 4:51 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weak

Chiefs get Brandon Flowers. Another good pick. They really need to knock this crap off.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 4:47 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DUDE

ESPN is behind

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 26, 2008 4:47 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is unbelievable

as soon as they get to the 2nd round they start not showing picks. I can understand it later on in the draft, and even later on in the second round, but not the second pick of the second round. Pathetic.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 4:48 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man

Kansas City is absolutely pounding it. A++ for them.

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 4:47 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hahahah that was a good video clip

“Atlanta has selected Brett Favor…”

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 4:50 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CRAP

heres the brett favre BS
AND damn commercials

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 26, 2008 4:50 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man

A Brett Favre feature coming up. I feel those wings coming back up…

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 4:50 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WR out of Kansas State

Fast, I believe. That’s all I think I know about him.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 4:52 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoa

Jordy Nelson. The WRs are really all over the board this year, aren’t they?

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 4:51 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK Zap...

I haven’t been around for awhile. Have you calmed down about Clady yet?

Or so I'm told.

by MN Bronco on Apr 26, 2008 4:55 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, right.

You mentioned it, I immeditately cringed.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 4:56 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK good

Just don’t do anything crazy on us, holmes.

Or so I'm told.

by MN Bronco on Apr 26, 2008 4:57 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

naw...

The more I watch on Clady the more I will say, Let’s wait and see….

by Zappa on Apr 26, 2008 4:58 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lofton gone

Darn.

Is Connors still around or did I miss that pick? He would be a best case scenario if he made it to #42.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:00 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dan Connor

is still on the board, 4 picks away from us. Problem is…he has to get past the Saints…then we have to draft him.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:00 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wasn't it just a month or two ago...

...that Dan Connors was the #1 LB on the boards?

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on Apr 26, 2008 5:01 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and a potential top 15 pick

I’d really like to see how late risers and late fallers end up doing once they make it to the NFL.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:02 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep

I have no idea why he’s dropped. SOm emocks had Denver taking him with the 12

Or so I'm told.

by MN Bronco on Apr 26, 2008 5:02 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

About...4 months ago

I was advocating Connor in the first, but if we didn’t I thought it was possible he would be a major slider and be around at our second pick. As it is, it looks like I might be close to right. I just don’t think we’ll draft Connor.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:02 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, with ejruiz gone...

can I restart my DRAFT PHILLIP WHEELER campaign?

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:00 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought they might get Keller

but Carlson isn’t too bad, either. I don’t think he’ll be great, but he won’t be a monumental bust.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:01 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ahhh

I hope ** ** falls to us! (not gonna curse this)

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 5:01 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4 asterisks

so clearly you’re hoping for ray RICE. wink

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:03 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hahaa

I actually entered 5 and 5 asterisks… it just got cut for some reason.

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 5:05 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta go run

and take the dog for a quick walk. No doubt Denver will manage to pick before I get back.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:02 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which QB will Denver take?

This is a QB year for them. SHanny has said in the past he likes to draft a QB every other year.

Or so I'm told.

by MN Bronco on Apr 26, 2008 5:04 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rumor has it

he loved Matt Ryan and discussed a trade with the Rams to move up and take him. Shanny figured he had gotten the Rams to cooperate for a Denver move int he first to grab a QB that he would go back to them and try to again.

....See how easy it is make up rumors?

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:05 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good options

At this point Connors, Limas Sweed, Ray Rice and Marcus Harrison are all still on the board.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:05 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ray Rice

without Brian Leonard is not a Ray Rice I like. Harrison is not at all attractive to me, Limas Sweed is a WR, and I really doubt we go LB in the second. (though i would LOVE CONNOR)

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:06 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Connor

Great value, position of need, could provide depth until he beats out Niko eventually.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:12 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey guys

I’m back…what’d I miss? LOL I just reviewed the picks. Saw Zappa’s first again.

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:07 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm...

That’s what I get for listening to another pundit on TV.

by Zappa on Apr 26, 2008 5:10 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He played a great 4-3 LB at PSU.

Outside when Poz was in the Middle and he won the Bednarik award at MLB last season.

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:11 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

noted for his versatility, Connor’s drop is surprising to me, but if New Orleans doesn’t trade for Shockey here, I think Connor is the pick.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:12 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Saints

What I was thinking, I doubt they let him past them even if they added Vilma.

Hopefully they pick up Shockey. :)

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:13 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude

it’s just strange to see you outside of PurpleRow. It took me a minute to realize it was you, lol.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:14 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rachal is probably a good fit for the 9ers,

Interesting tohear that he needs to work harder. Sounds like a typical 9er.

by Arctic Bronco on Apr 26, 2008 5:07 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tracy Porter

whaaaat? The Saints picked a girl? To play CB with the big name free agent with two first names. Quite a defense theyre building.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:13 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh

He said girl.

Or so I'm told.

by MN Bronco on Apr 26, 2008 5:14 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is someone talking to me?

Wait, I didn’t go to school at Indiana and my name isn’t Tracy Porter… Never mind.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:15 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Laws

Laws is an interesting option as well.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:14 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YES!

!!!!!!!! Is it too much to hope!

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:15 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

STOP SAYING HIS NAME

we will pass him if you do

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 26, 2008 5:15 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SERIOUSLY

WE ALL KNOW RAY RICE IS THE PICK. STOP JINXING HIM.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:16 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trade back?

Maybe we get a sweet deal to trade back so someone can take a QB.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:16 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who's left

The Packers still want a QB right? But they already picked. Let’s throw out more names

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:18 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aaron Rogers

Maybe the Dolphins? Tampa?

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:21 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bills grab Hardy

Now we have a pick of so many guys, it’s crazy. Let’s trade down with someone who wants a QB. What about Minnesota?

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:18 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All right

Our turn. Get someone good.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:19 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the trade down or out idea

Chicago could go QB at 44 so maybe someone will want to jump ahead of them.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:20 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But who?

I’m looking around at teams and I don’t see Carolina having the ammo to get a deal done, Minnesota is probably too stubbord, Baltimore and ATL are set. I just don’t see where the deal would come from.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:21 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is our

best chance to pick up a third rounder….

by denverocks on Apr 26, 2008 5:20 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Royal

so much for character

by denverocks on Apr 26, 2008 5:22 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Son of a...

I like Royal but not over the other options.

Not a good value pick. :(

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:23 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eddie Royal?

Ummmhmmm… Great going, Shanny.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:22 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah...

where are ye, Ted Sundquist?

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:23 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GREAT PICK BUT TOO EARLY

I was looking at Royal…he’ll help us a lot on special teams but no NO NO Laws Sims or Connor wouldve been better

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:24 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a shame

Let’s not knock him for our GM’s decisions

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:25 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we picked a ROYAL

for his return ability, with DeSean Jackson on the board, I’m going to cry.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:24 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, he's pretty good

Beamer ball at VT and he’s a decent WR, so that’ll help on two fronts (hopefully its another young quick wr)

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:27 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*throws hands up*

I have no idea about this draft anymore.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:27 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn’t see much of Royal, but I liked what I saw from DeSean this year. Oh well. Hopefully nobody in the West picks him up.

by giants9107 on Apr 26, 2008 5:28 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sorry bout the spam guys

I’m done posting in fanshots. Consider it site maintenace! :)

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Apr 26, 2008 5:34 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Personally

I would much rather see Desean than Royal, just because of his ability at returning and his speed.

by giants9107 on Apr 26, 2008 5:24 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dang

Getting one smart/rational pick per draft is apparently the limit.

I liked Royal if we had traded up/down to get him later in the second or in the third but….arg.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:25 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

I got Minnesota correct, but why it couldn’t get done with us is beyond me.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:25 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guess what guys

We’re done, not until round three. Well, this sucks. I agree MAD, I would’ve taken him later, but I can’t hate him because our front office made a bad pick :(

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:26 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man

I hope the front office knew something about Sweed/Jackson that we don’t..

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 5:27 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

That’s what the kid said when the jets busted “I guess the front office knows something about Ken O’ Brien that we don’t” when they took O’Brien instead of Marino lol

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:27 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Royal over Jackson

For this role (returner and a chance to be a good 3rd receiver) I think I like Royal over Jackson.

Not on potential but on what they will most likely actually do in the NFL.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:29 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW!

THE EAGLES TRADED DOWN AGAIN???!!

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:26 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're drunk.

lol CLADY’s a great pick you’ll see!

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:28 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

The more I read/watch video of Clady, the more I’m liking him.

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 5:29 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All Clady needs to do

is prevent Cutler from constantly being knocked on his rear, and knock some heads belonging to… let’s say… Shawne Merriman. Just as an example.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:32 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hahahaah

what’s with the Vikings farming Arkansas State? Tarvaris Jackson, now this kid? Has there ever been an Arkansas State pipeline before?

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:27 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

None of the reloading season WRs can help

in the return game, so maybe Royal can make a contribution. If not, at least Zappa has a good excuse to knock down a few more foamy ones:)

by Arctic Bronco on Apr 26, 2008 5:28 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I cannot complain

Since I was partially advocating taking a first round CB who could help us in the return game.

As long as Royal is willing to mix it up in the running game and doesn’t fumble when returning, I’ll live with it.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:30 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From a scouting report

On his blocking:

“Gives a solid effort as a stalk blocker. Feisty and physical; won’t back down from a challenge.”

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:32 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thx

I am feeling better. Still think it may have been a reach, but if a player ends up being productive nobody will care that you could have gotten him a few picks (or even a round) later.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:34 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Special teams

Royal should definitely be a good returner. He also has a chance to be a good receiver.

The first one is very likely the second is going to take time to tell.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:31 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am thinking

The plan may be to groom him to replace Stokely in a couple years.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:32 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wonder

is Royal the next Darius Watts?

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:29 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, let's just say he can catch better than watts

yes? lol I can understand why you hate the PICK, but please don’t hate the PLAYER just yet, it wouldn’t be fair…not his fault. I wanted royal but not this early.

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:41 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh

It’s nothing against Royal. I’m just huge on value, and I can’t imagine teams were burning up the phones saying I WANT EDDIE ROYAL. I hope he produces beyond my wildest imagination. I have no reason to hate the player, lololol. I just think, in terms of value, there was a shortcoming on the part of the organization to properly assess the draft.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:43 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about

BOOOO FRONT OFFICE BOOOOO :)

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:43 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Vikings take a FS, not a QB

Tyrell Johnson from Arkansas State. Guess they wanted to give Jackson company. Tarvaris Jackson, Tyrell Johnson, ICIC.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:29 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why didn't we make the trade with the Eagles?

Getting a 2nd and a 4th and still having a good shot at Royal would have been nice.

by Arctic Bronco on Apr 26, 2008 5:31 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy smokes

Wow.

I LOVE Dizon but that one is a hard pick to justify unless Connor just murdered someone last night.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:38 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

Dizon is great, but I wonder if maybe we start thinking of making a move for Connor.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:40 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No joke

How does a first round talent like that, with positional versatility, the smarts to lead a team from the middle linebacker position and a pedigree like his drop like this.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:41 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like the idea

But not sure what we have to get it done. I guess we could offer a 4th this year and 2nd next year. I generally don’t like trading away first or second round picks in future years. But the Jets have dibs on our 3rd (even if it is very likely that they won’t end up getting it). So I think we have to give up a 2nd next year if we want to get back into the 2nd round this year.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:43 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dizon

I’ve been to every home football game he has played for the Buffs and have watched all the others on TV and the Lions will not regret this pick. What Dizon lacks in size he more then makes up for in instincts, preparation, fundamentals and intensity. Dizon just flat out produces at linebacker and will make a tremendous pro.

by RyanBuff on Apr 26, 2008 5:41 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The player and the pick

They aren’t the same thing.

Dizon is amazing. He will be good in the pros.

Just an overdraft.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:42 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I respectfully disagree...

I know I am a homer, but we’ll see.

by RyanBuff on Apr 26, 2008 5:43 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Royal over Jackson I like

Royal is 20 pounds heavier and Jackson has enormous character issues which play a big factor in today’s NFL. Jackson, from what I’ve heard, also has a very poor work ethic. I was hoping to draft either Trevor Laws or Dajuan Morgan with this pick but Royal should at least cure our woes as far as the return game goes and hopefully contribute some right away at receiver and eventually take over the slot.

by RyanBuff on Apr 26, 2008 5:38 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad pick, good addition

He reminds me of the Rockies selection of Casey Weathers and Greg Reynolds the last few years – good players, good additions to the organization but bad selections because better players were left on the board. Significantly better (and higher ranked) players.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:40 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree....

Do you think he would’ve been around in the 3rd round?

by RyanBuff on Apr 26, 2008 5:41 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Early?

Maybe early.

Seemed destined for late 2nd, early 3rd.

The difference is that there are other guys who play a position and are returners (either RB/returners, WR/returners or DB/returners) who will probably be there in the 4th round.

They have to be drafting Royal as a wide receiver here for the pick to not be stupid. Marginal receiver + good returner is bad value with this pick.

Of course, D. Williams turned out to be a legit DB and people said the same thing about him when he was drafted.

I like Royal’s chances of being a good receiver as well.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:45 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Exactly how I feel.

Good call. We got a good player, but the position at which we got him wasn’t the greatest I guess. I wouldn’t buy any jerseys just yet

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:43 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I never targeted Royal, but he is the type of WR/returner

I have been lobbying for all season. I have wanted to get a quick, lateral mobility type, like Steve Smith as a compliment to Brandon all season. That body type is usually shorter and stouter than the traditional end zone WR, so I am sure that there is a good place for Royal on our team.

Grooming him to replace Stokely at slot is a good plan, Stokely probably doesn’t have more than 3 seasons left, due to a career featuring many injuries.

by Arctic Bronco on Apr 26, 2008 5:43 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Royal = Slot Machine :)

He could be our next slot guy though. We’ll see what happens, but i’m sure Colbert and Parker will have every opportunity to do that as well

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:44 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After picking Royal

I don’t think Parker will make the team. And I am thinking that the loser of the D Jackson/K Colbert battle for the #2 spot may be out on the street as well.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:46 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

Does the time slot get smaller in the 3rd?

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 5:44 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have the feeling

It’s gonna be a LOOOONG round three either way

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:46 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

the waiting would suck just about the same even if we did have a3rd round pick. Rd3 picks got moved to day two this year, as opposed to being on day one, like in previous draft history.

"I could never quite get the hang f Thursdays..."

by FlaBroncoFan on Apr 26, 2008 5:45 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dammit

There goes Laws. Eagles got him.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:47 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good pick by the Eagles

FINALLY they got a good player, maybe not the type of player they needed or at the position they needed, but at this point i’m gonna try not to focus on WHO’S taken, because that’s one less guy the Broncos could have :(

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:53 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know a lot of eagles fans

that are angry (one said I will flip a burger if the Eagles take DeSean Jackson) lmao

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:55 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where do we go now?

We got our return man and a tackle. I say we get our DT at some point, MAYBE a runningback (maybe, next year could be for that instead), but those two are big I guess.

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:47 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Attention shifted

to the shocking Connor drop as well as the curious fall of the two bigs QBs left on the board.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:49 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Henne

he wasn’t supposed to go in the early 2nd anyway, so that’s not TOO much of a surprise. The Vikes not taking a qb shows they’re rollin with Jackson for a little (they may still take one a little later).

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:54 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Skins pick up TE Davis

Eagles picking again if NFL.com does not lie.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:50 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that is actually right

With all the trades, Philly ended up with the 47 and 49

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 5:51 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes

Remember those trades? lol

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:53 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm trying to keep

most of them straight and the site is sometimes not the quickest on the uptake.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:54 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And there goes Jackson

to the Iggles.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:54 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have a feeling

the rest of this day is going to feature “there goes (someone or other) and there goes (this guy)” I don’t want to have to think like that and miss out on guys like that :(
So, ummm…let’s talk broncos? lol

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 5:55 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fine with me.

The Clady pick really annoyed me at first, and the longer it sits in my head, the more and more comfortable I get with it. The Royal pick has been harder to swallow, but I’ve been laying on the couch imagining him in blue and orange running reverses and returning kicks and being our 4th WR. It’s not a bad imagine, really. I think he has talent, and I watched him play a few times at Va Tech, but I dunno. I just feel like we didn’t maximize the draft board like we could have. I think we could have gotten some more value out of it, but we’ll never know what other teams plans were. I mean, Connor is on the board while Dizon is in Detroit already. Who would have thought, eh? And the kid from Houston being the first WR, it’s just been a chaotic second round.

But something bad sticks with me about the Royal pick.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:59 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I felt similarly last year

when they traded up to get Jarvis Moss, especially since it led to them having to make another trade to get Marcus Thomas which led us to have no 3rd this year (which may have been what we needed to move up and grab Ellis). As I mentioned earlier, if these guys all turn out to be productive, nobody will remember that they went “too high”. But at the same time if you could have gotten the same players plus another pick or two, it is a bit disappointing not to get the extras.

by MattR on Apr 26, 2008 6:07 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jackson

Glad the Broncos passed on him.

Unbelievable talent but he sure doesn’t inspire confidence in his ability to maximize it.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:56 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

If we’re going to take a WR, I want Bennett.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 5:57 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

I meant to say “another WR.”

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 6:02 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not as down on the Royal pick as others

But this has been a disappointing draft and I’d liked to have seen us nab Bennett.

Just make it stop.

by Silverblood on Apr 26, 2008 6:04 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was high on Bennett too until recently...

felt he was a 3rd rounder…I wanted Dexter Jackson in the 4th. better value i thought. :)

by Zappa on Apr 26, 2008 6:11 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thought he was overrated, anyway.

Don’t mind him off the board. Connor would be good for pretty much any team here on out.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 5:59 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Calmed down

It is hard not to like Royal a lot.

I would have prefered a few of the other available players but Royal is a good pick-up and a pretty safe bet – as far as receivers go.

The videos that Zappa linked show interesting things for those of us who didn’t watch Va Tech much the last few years.

For a speed guy I like the way that Royal turned upfield and kicked in the afterburners both after the catch and on returns – rather than dancing around or trying to outrun people to the outside.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 5:59 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Definitely

He’s got great talent and I wanted to get him later…the question that everyone’s been asking and will ask though, is: would he have been there a little later?

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 6:01 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only matters now

Once they start playing the games that won’t matter much.

It wasn’t a huge overdraft so if he produces like they expect that he will this will all be forgotten by the time that next year’s draft rolls around.

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 6:03 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh i know

I want them to get playing now!

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 6:04 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RMN take

From the end of the RMN blog post about Royal:

“Really decisive in the return game, finds the seam and hits it.”

by MADness on Apr 26, 2008 6:02 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Royal has a good attitude too

team player…yada yada. This was a good pick. :)

by Zappa on Apr 26, 2008 6:03 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction: GOOD PLAYER

Only because I want a third round pick too lol

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 6:04 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Alright

We have 6 picks left. I’m assuming we have to get a DT for sure. What other positions do you think we’ll try to get?

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 6:04 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe Frank Okam from Texas a little later? We've gone TX before

Maybe another linemen later (who knows)? Maybe a Punter or Kicker? lol

by phantom818 on Apr 26, 2008 6:05 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha a kicker..

Who’s kicking this year again?

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 6:06 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yup.

I really like him as a kicker.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 6:08 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm

Only made 67% of his kicks last year, but from what I watched of him thsi year, he has a very strong leg.

by atthehive on Apr 26, 2008 6:10 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe

three of his missed kicks were in a rivalry game against Oregon with ridiculous gusting winds that not many kickers would have excelled in. No major excuse, and I’m not typically one to look up a lot of numbers, but if memory serves, some of those missed kicks had….interesting circumstances.

by SlamDunkTheFunk on Apr 26, 2008 6:12 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs