Broncos Trade

by broncodude793 on Apr 5, 2008 11:19 PM MDT Comment 15 comments

*Update [2008-4-6 1:38:28 by broncodude793]:*-I need to start paying attention in English class and work on my writing rather than reading the Horse Tracks everyday.

Ok, here, you're not going to find out a major trade the Broncos have just made. Rather, you'll find my logic. I will call for something that will most likely be hated, but I think you guys will be able to see where I'm coming from.

Okay, picture this. Brandon Marshall is out for some reason and Colbert flops like he will. Okay we have Brandon Stokely and Selvin Young as our two biggest offensive threats for the year.(Scheff is a t.e. and I'm not counting those.) Jay Cutler goes into his 3rd year as starting qb with no wr's and a good tight end in Scheff. Nice offense.

Now, I love Marshall, don't get me wrong, but he can't be counted on. He's Chris Henry without the arrests and they could be coming. He can't be counted on to be Cuter's number one.

With the draft coming up, we need to focus on Culter. Cutler. Cutler. Cutler. Cutler. And Cutler. You have to build around him first. You need wide receivers and linemen.

We have a great track record of drafting linemen so that's not a worry, and the whole defense needs to come out of remedial therapy after the disaster that was Jim Bates, so they need a year of evaluating with the new safeties, lbs, and another year under last years draftees.

Keeping this in mind, I suggest the Broncos make a play on Chad Johnson.

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Okay. Think about this. He doesn't get in trouble off the field. He just wants to win. Wow, that's too big checkmarks for our team. Then, he's that big play receiver that we need. It's a lot to chew on and I doubt we'll see it, but he does make sense for us as much as some might hate it.

Trading for Chad and getting back into the third round should be our priorities for the draft.

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Here is my thought

I think we need a speed demon no doubt. I also think we need to get back into the third round. Here is a flaw...

How do we get Johnson and get back into the third round and not give up future picks? I like Johnson, I dont want to give up anything down the line for now. I would much rather miss the playoffs this year and develop our team, than trade for Johnson and lose our #1 next year.

The other flaw is that Marvin Lewis and the Bengals front office has said they are going to honor 85's contract and not release or trade him. They said he will be a Bengal if he is in the NFL next year.

Thats about all I got. It just doesn't seem probable and I feel Ocho is a "ME" player and we have had our fair share of Walker.

Davis to the Hall! "A leader, once convinced that a particular course of action is the right one, must be undaunted when the going gets tough." Ronald Reagan

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 6, 2008 12:08 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Initially I thought Ocho Cinco

would be a horrible guy to bring to the Broncos. But after reading the article posted over at Broncotalk.net I've changed my mind. It is true that Chad Johnson hasn't said a word about not wanting to play in Cinny, nor has he publicly stated he wants to be the #1 guy. The media has turned on him and given him the label as a selfish "me" player. He seems to be a passionate player and just because he enjoys celebrating a TD doesn't make him a "me" player. ;)

The river Denial actually runs through Sacramento on its way to Oakland.
Disillusioned Rants

by Tim Lynch on Apr 6, 2008 12:13 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

There is a difference

Between a guy who wants the ball in crucial situations and who gets angry when the team is failing while he not being given a change to contribute and a guy who just wants to be a #1 WR. The first category shows competitiveness and is fine by me as long as it doesn't get to be a Keyshawn or TO type distraction. Chad Johnson seems to fall safely into the first category, while Javon Walker and Asley Lelie fall into the second.

by MattR on Apr 6, 2008 12:26 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

What about

DT Marcus Thomas the guy was caught with cocain in his car, should we group him with Marshall. He said the cocain isn't his but if the law prove it is his then should we cut him, he already on a short leash. I hope we draft two or three DT (Frank Okam, Dre Moore, Nick Hayden) this draft just incase.

by vietminh55 on Apr 6, 2008 12:20 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Denver's legal team...

...and PR team seem to have looked over the police report, and the organization's position seems to be that Thomas was not at fault in any legal sense. (I may be wrong, but didn't the vehicle belong to the friend?) He IS guilty of stupidity in choosing his friends.

I imagine the leash will get shorter for our younger players. I'm not giving up on Thomas or Marshall yet, but I would assign a mentor player and lay down the law when camp starts.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 6, 2008 8:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have been silent on Chad

But I don't have a problem with him as a Bronco. There would obviously be contract and trade compensation issues to work out, but I don't think he would be a problem in the locker room. At the same time, he is outgoing and gregarious like Portis so I wonder if he can coexist with Shanahan.

The whole issue is moot though. Now that Cinci has cut Chris Henry they are not gonna trade Chad. Their offense is based on 3 WR sets. They were 2-6 without Henry and 5-3 with him. Now that he is permanently gone I just can't see how they can part with #85.

by MattR on Apr 6, 2008 12:21 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

There's no way...

Cincy trades 85 and there's no way we make that trade. BMarsh is part of our future. He's young and foolish at times but IMO he's nowhere near the Chris Henry (walking crime spree) and Pacman (shake what your mama gave ya!) gang. I'd hate to see him blow up somewhere else (not literally, although knowing Brandon he might blow himself up!). We've NEVER had a receiver with his skill set and I want us to be patient and watch him blossom with us. Give Bmarsh a chance. :)

If there's a WR out there who I'd like us to trade for (for the right price) it would be Roy Williams (Det).

I wish Woody Paige was our coach

by bcfunderburk on Apr 6, 2008 8:02 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

My thoughts

I'm not excited about Colbert, but I want to see what he does before I dismiss him. Scheff at TE is no joke, and makes the WRs around him look good.

It's too soon to let Marshall go. We just lost Javon Walker, and now we're going to give up our other WR? We really need to keep some players, particularly young and upcoming ones.

If we keep trading away players or bringing in gobs of FAs (as we did last year) we won't have a core team. Teams in player transistion can' gell together nor can they specialize in whatever scheme Denver is running.

This year we brought in several FAs, but they are only stop gap, inexpensive players. We are relying heavily on the draft. Right now (to build the core) we need to try to hold on to as many young, talented players as we can.

On the other hand, I think that (other than DT) we need to focus on building around Cutler with this draft. Our priorities should be (in no particular order) DT, WR, and OL.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 6, 2008 8:16 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree about OL but...

Are we making the argument to expend our top picks on the OL/WR? I hope not. I may be a throwback, but I'm convinced you stock up on OL in the later rounds (4-7). If I'm proven wrong, then do we really think Clady/Willaims/Otah are worth #12? Are there any WRs worth the #12 pick? I'd rather us trade down if that's the case.

My perfect scenario is for the Broncos to draft the BEST players on board when their pick comes up regardless of position (aside from QB where we're set). Outside of Cutler, Champ and DJ I think everyone could use some healthy competition for their jobs. Nobody, in my mind, deserves anything based on our performance the last two years.

I wish Woody Paige was our coach

by bcfunderburk on Apr 6, 2008 1:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea, the salary is an issue, but

Chad is what we need.

Then, we find linemen out of nowhere. They will come. No need to draft one high. I like it better when we trade down and get those late round picks.

Someone said that It'd be a problem getting into the third round, helping the D, and getting C.J.
Firstly, I turn to The Villyn. He put it on the dot.

About that problem. No use in have 4 viable starting cb's. Depth is great but when depth is going to leave next year, better for depth to reseult in a greater result. <trade>

I didn't say to get rid of Marshall. He needs to be controlled. He's on the line.

p.s., Villyn, you made my signature.

After making a stop in Sacramento, the Denial river makes a stop in Oakland and then heads east towards Kansas City.

by broncodude793 on Apr 6, 2008 1:50 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

How about...

I'm wondering why this hasn't come up yet. I don't know much about him, but we need a speedster, and I now he is fast: Santana Moss of Washington. I haven't figured out why WAS would want to trade up from #21 yet, though, but i think the are getting tired of the duo of him and Randle El - they wan't more size!

How much do you guys think he would be worth? 2nd rounder? 3rd+4th?. Randle El is pretty much the same type of player, so he's a possibility too.

The limited action i've seen with him has mostly been positive, but I would like hear your oppinion!

From Denmark, so i excuse my self for un-knowing-ness...

by Claaaaas on Apr 7, 2008 5:43 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

He just wants to win, huh?

Actually, Ocho wants the ball ahead of anything else. Does punching your head coach in the locker room at halftime of a playoff game count as getting in trouble off the field? No thanks on Chad.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/18/ocho-cinco-lewis-had-to-restrain-me/

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/06/more-than-two-years-later-vindication/

by Douglas A. Lee on Apr 7, 2008 9:16 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

No Ocho cinco

I had not seen these clips before. Thanks for posting them. I was on the treadmill at the gym a couple of weeks ago and listened to the whole hour interview with CJ and there is no way I want that man to be a Bronco. Even at his best behavior he is arrogant, conceited and self-centered. We need team players much more than we need gifted athletes with an attitude.

by firstfan on Apr 7, 2008 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Santana Moss...hmm...interesting...

Having lived in the Washington DC for most of my life I've seen a lot of Skins games. Moss would be an interesting acquisition because I believe he still has plenty of good years in him and would give us a deep threat. He's not a head case and plays hard. He's hands are suspect at times, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt having played for the worst franchise in the NFL outside of Oakland. I think the change of scenery would do him well.

For the right price (i.e., we exploit the skins yet again 3/4th), I would like to have Moss wearing blue and orange. The same can't be said for Randle El. He's not a #2 WR in this league IMO.

I wish Woody Paige was our coach

by bcfunderburk on Apr 7, 2008 1:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs