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MHR Broncos History Lesson -- The Trade


Welcome to another edition of the Broncos History Lesson.  This week I will be covering the Broncos "trade of the century".  The historical trade that brought the face of the franchise to Denver, John Elway.  This trade is important to Bronco fans not because of how he helped Denver become a perennial winner, but because without him a large portion of us may not have even become Bronco fans in the first place.

 

 

 

 

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John Elway was a rare athlete of his day.  He excelled not just in football, but in baseball as well.  He even threw a 93 MPH fast ball.  Although it was obvious he was far more talented as a football player, Elway preferred to keep his options open. In the summer of 1981 he signed a $150,000 contract to play Class A ball for the New York Yankees.  Elway batted .318 during his six week stint with the Yankees - not bad for a football player.

I don't know about you, but seeing Elway in a Yankees uniform gives me the willies. Maybe its my fanaticism of the Broncos or more likely it is my hatred of all things Yankee, but I am grateful history played out like it did.

Through Elway's career at Stanford he displayed an ability beyond anything scouts had ever seen from a quarterback.  Elway had it all, a rocket arm, precision accuracy, and an uncanny ability to escape the clutches of frustrated defensive linemen.  He went on to break many NCAA passing records on a woefully bad Stanford team.

In Elway's final collegiate game, he led a drive to score a touchdown with a mere seven seconds remaining to take the lead, however, an unlikely kick off return for a touchdown matched only by the Music City Miracle gave the Cal Bears the victory and denied Elway any hope of going to a bowl game.


So along came the 1983 draft.  The NFL, having just been brutalized by a players strike the year before that ended up being a throw away season for most teams. The Broncos received the 4th overall pick, but were still three picks away from being able to pick up John Elway - the drafts top prospect. The number one overall pick was held by the Baltimore Colts who were coming off a 0-8-1 regular season record.

Elway had different plans, he wanted to play on the west coast.  He had no desire to play for a franchise that had no plans of going to any championships anytime soon.  So he laid a bombshell on the NFL by letting the world know that he would not play football for the Baltimore Colts.  If they drafted him, he would play baseball for the Yankees.  No NFL prospect has ever slapped a franchise in the face like that before and most in the media figured it was a bluff.  

However, even after getting clubbed in the groin by Elway's baseball bat, the Colts owner Robert Irsay and Coach Frank Kush drafted Elway #1 overall. One cannot blame Baltimore for making this move, because they were in a bind and needed a quarterback badly.  The previous year their number 1 draft pick, former Ohio State QB Art Schlichter, ran up a six-figure gambling tab with bookies and ended up entering FBI witness protection.  Elway was unsympathetic, however, and demanded a trade or he would sign with the Yankees before training camp.

The Colts struck a deal with Denver on May 2, 1983, seeming to purposely reject a better offer from Al Davis because the Colts didn't want to give in completely to Elway's demands of being traded to a west coast team.  Al Davis cried foul and as crazy Al usually does, claimed that a "league conspiracy had prevented him from trading for the Elway pick."  

In any case, the Broncos had more to offer right way.  They gave up their #4 pick of Chris Hinton, and their number 1 pick in the 1984 draft, along with a back up QB and one million dollars of cold hard cash.  Many thought this trade was one of the worst of all-time, but in reality the Colts got Chris Hinton, who churned out 7 pro bowl seasons out of a 13 year career and also Ron Solt who gave a solid career as a starting NFL Guard.  An interesting blog written by Chris Hinton can be found here.

So it wasn't like the Colts got nothing out of the deal, although Elway did go on to lead a talentless Bronco team to three Super Bowl berths, as well as leading a talent-filled team to two Super Bowl titles.

The Denver Broncos quickly signed Elway to a five year, five million dollar contract, which at the time was the biggest deal in NFL history.  Elway went on to become one of the all-time greats and the Denver Broncos became an elite franchise, dedicated to winning.

 


 

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Awesome story!
Great snapshots of history as always Zap!  Keep 'em coming!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Apr 6, 2008 1:16 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, oh and I just posted
a great historical snapshot in your MHR Football University post.  hehehe  :)  

by Tim Lynch on Apr 6, 2008 1:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent as Always
considering Elway entered the NFL a year before I was born, I have to catch up on my Bronco History. I have learned so much from this set of posts, keep 'em coming.
Davis to the Hall! "A leader, once convinced that a particular course of action is the right one, must be undaunted when the going gets tough." Ronald Reagan

by Jon Tollerud on Apr 6, 2008 1:58 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Elway
Dont forget he also REFUSED to play for Frank Kush. That more the reason he refused to play for the Colts. The Colts at that time had suffered greatly with the loss of Bert Jones in 1978 and never recovered. Frank Kush got fired from ASU (ironic thats where his son is going to play at Frank Kush Field). San Diego could have had Elway but Gene Klien refused to part with his 3 #1's and his loyalty to Fouts. I was there as a kid watching his first game as a Bronco, a pre-season game against Seattle. That had to be the loudest pre-season game ever. It was awesome! I wonder how many more Super Bowls he could have won if Dan Reeves would have actually built an offense around him?
Again another good article on the Broncos.
PS: I am getting real tired of the no nothings at ESPN thinking they know more about the Broncos than the Broncos. I use to respect Jermey Green but saying Denver is going in the wrong direction is foolish

by broncfanstuckinsd on Apr 6, 2008 3:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess I did leave that part out,
but thanks for pointing it out.  Frank Kush was a hard coach to play for and I doubt Elway wanted to work around that.

As far as Dan Reeves is concerned, I remember Elway saying that if he didn't like the play Reeves called, Elway would "allow" the play to go to crap and then he said he would "make one up" after the pocket collapsed.  

Many of us, as much as we adore John Elway, forget just how special a player he was.  The guy was, in my opinion, the greatest football player to play at the Quarterback position.  And don't go saying Montana-Montana, because that pansy didn't even come close to getting hit as much as Elway and he was forced to retire early because of his body quittin' on him.  :)

by Tim Lynch on Apr 6, 2008 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have the lofty goal
of wanting to write THE definitive story that makes the case for Elway as the greatest QB ever.  

A lot can be said about numbers, championships, teams played on etc.  A lot of cases can be made for QBs in any of those categories.  But when you talk about football, ask someone what they think the most important part of the game is.  Usually the answer will be winning championships.  That's great, but as the question intones: IT IS ONLY A PART!

When talking about the best ever, you have to talk about the best within a particular context.  If you limit that context to certain factors, then you are essentially limiting it according to what outcome you want.  The context I set up for the greatest QB of all time would be the ENTIRE SCOPE OF NFL FOOTBALL.

This means stats, teams played on, championships won, championships lost, how did you get there, where did you go after, who did you play with, who didn't you play with, who did you play against, and who didn't you play.  I want to compare the wins and how they happened, and the losses and how they could have been avoided, I want to know about the greatest upsets, the smallest triumphs, what could be done when you were on the field, and what couldn't be dreamed of if you weren't.

In short, every QB in the league has had his career tell a story, some short, some long.  Some really, really long (favre ;()  There is the story about the career backup to a HOFer who no one trusted to fill the HOFer's shoes, but who went on to prove every doubter wrong and be recognized as one of the most dangerous QBs of all time. (Young)   There is the story of the no-name, out of nowhere wonderkin who was teamed with one of the most diligent and fiercely competitive coaches in the game, and how together they seemed unstoppable. (Brady + Bellichek)  Or the story about the prince who was chosen to lead an army back to glory, who himself was the ideal of QB nobility, and who struggled through his first bloody campaigns but secured territory as routinely and efficiently as any field general could hope for, as his king sent him wave after wave of capable and strong soldiers. (Manning + Polian)

But to me, the story of the golden child, born of philosopher's light and blessed with the gifts of ages, who was cast down for his pride, and yet who took on every hope and prayer of all who passed by him and bore it without thanks and without justice, on his broad shouldes, may be the greatest story of them all.  It builds in a dramatic crescendo with superhuman effort always falling short, with dreams always a step away from extinction, and with an army of opposition in the forms critics, hecklers, the endless tide of otherworldly expectation, and the immovable stony countenance of the old guard.

And the story ends with one final push, when the right to ask for more would be wrong, but is yielded to anyway.  Justice becomes more than the sum of one man, as the old guard that was deemed immovable was moved.  Critics and heclecklers became dreamers again, and the tide of expectation which for so long had battered the man, rose once again, this time to lift him and carry him to his reward.  This is a story that for many needed to be told, and couldn't be believed, even as it unfolded.  For me it is the only kind of story that matters:  our potential is limitless, are dreams are worth it, and justice will come.

And it is never too late.

I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 6, 2008 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would look forward to this
definitive piece.  I would like to see an argument supporting Elway as the greats football QB ever.  Add em up! :)

by Tim Lynch on Apr 6, 2008 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone else find the...
old pic of Elway with the beatles hair similar to Jay Cutler's mop now just a little freaky?
fader nation is a conquered nation

by mdierk on Apr 6, 2008 7:22 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha!
I didn't even think of that. lol

by Tim Lynch on Apr 6, 2008 10:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elway
         I have a copy of the first round of the 83 draft, and I am just amazed that we were able to get him back then. The Chargers had 3 first rounders, Buffalo had 2 first rounders and probably could have given the Colts a good player or two from their early 80's playoff teams like WR Jerry Butler or LB Jim Haslett as an add-on, and the Raiders were also trying to get Elway(thank god that didn't happen) I also heard that Ernie Accorsi, the Colt GM at the time, still thought that he could convince Elway to be a Colt when, Praise God, Irsay traded him to us anyway. Now, I was a Denver fan before Elway came, but his arrival cinched me remaining one for good.

        And Zapparulez, you are preaching to the converted about Montana. He was the Tom Brady of the 80's: A QB who gets too much credit because he is on a championship team. I am on this board called FootballsFuture.com, and the Rhodes Scholars on there say that Elway is overrated because of his stats under Reeves weren't the greatest. But what Elway did in just getting those teams to 3 SB's in the 80's is more impressive than what Montana or Brady ever did.

by PABlzrfn on Apr 6, 2008 8:28 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

FootballsFuture.com drives me crazy sometimes
but I get where you are coming from.  East Coast bias always seems to ignore what Elway did IN SPITE OF Dan Reeves.  And try to stick to just the Bronco section of FF, it's a lot easier on the brain. ;)  

by Tim Lynch on Apr 6, 2008 10:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Memories
I was an old fart when that trade was made but I remember it like yesterday. I was of the opinion we should let Elway go to the Yankees for a year. We could keep Hinton and draft another stud lineman the next year to protect him and then offer Iresay a low-ball deal for the rights to Elway. I am sure glad things worked out like they did.

by firstfan on Apr 6, 2008 9:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't even want to chance it, but it is
interesting that you mentioned that.  During my research of this article I stumbled upon a piece that was written sometime recently, like after the year 2000.  The question the article posed was this:

What if the Baltimore Colts had called Elway's bluff?

An interesting proposition.  What would have happened to Elway and his future HOF career had the Colts called his bluff?  

by Tim Lynch on Apr 7, 2008 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elway Blog Entry
          I forgot about this. I go on this blog called Past Interference, and the Blog master just did a series called "Not the Greatest QB of all time". Here is his entry about Elway. By the way, you should check out this blog it is interesting.

http://miamimigraine.blogspot.com/2008/03/not-greatest-quarterback-of-all-time_21.html

          Zapparulez, I saw that about Elway.  I think it was on ESPN last year. David Mosse, one of ESPN's writers, was posting a weekly "what if" question about an NFL topic. Here is the link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2776891

by PABlzrfn on Apr 7, 2008 7:43 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the link
and it is a good link, in so far as it shows the fundamental error that comes from trying to make the case for GOAT:

selectivity leads to selection.

he basically makes his case by selectively looking at stats in the order and by preference of what he wants to elucidate.  To wit, where are the lists of the number of probowls that were acheived by the WRs and Olines that each team threw too?  Where is the data on coaching turnover, team W/L, before and after, etc.>

Now, I'm no knocking his analysis.  I do the exact same thing when I review a draft prospect.  I can't cover absolutely everything, so I'm selective, and I don't expect anything more from anyone else.

Unless that somebody else is trying to make the case for an ULTIMATE opinion, as any G.O.A.T. discussion is.  If you want to legitimately attempt that argument you can't state that Young had such a great passer rating because of his offense, in one paragraph, and then suggest that he "lacked pocket presence" in another.  The twelve or so paragraphs in between these two ideas doesn't severe the link, and the contradiction doesn't bode well for the rest of the article.

As an analyisis of Elway, it stands on its own, but it doesn't even begin to lay the groundwork for a case against Elway as the GOAT.  In fact, it does more to bolster the position of Elway as the GOAT, though I would have to read the rest as well, since I am assuming he was setting out to make a case for Bart Starr as the greatest ever.

Personally, I think there is a good chance he is wasting his time:  Greatest of All Time is a vast and wideranging integration, and in many ways is a subjective statement, with no grounds for proof.  To me, asking who the GOAT is, is a very unclear question.  

Greatest at what?  

I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 7, 2008 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elway was the Greatest of All-time at
WINNING football games.  Farve needed an extra season to break Elway's record.  This hack(Past Interference) totally ignored those facts. :(

by Tim Lynch on Apr 8, 2008 11:18 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is exactly the article I was referring too,
however, I was too lazy to go find it again. ;)

As for Past Interference, that guy can kiss my arse.  He neglected to point out that Elway got sacked not because he was more inclined to run, but because he was more inclined to have his protection break down.  

He also completely ignored the stats regarding WINS, 4TH QUARTER COMEBACKS, AND STATS AFTER REEVES.

How can you not look at winning percentages when looking at a QB's place in history???  

by Tim Lynch on Apr 8, 2008 11:13 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elway!Elway!Elway!
Put any of the top 5 QB's behind the line JE had, and they would have never made it 10 years in the NFL. Toughest QB to ever play!

by trtyhvbcc on Apr 7, 2008 9:10 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to MHR!
And you won't get many arguments against that point around here.  Elway played behind some of the most undersized lines of the era.
I wish my sig was as cool as mdierks!

by Jeremy Bolander on Apr 7, 2008 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Best ever
Elway has one of the highest winning % of any QB. To me than means more than yards and TD passes. Look at Fouts, Marino, and Farve. With all of their passing yards and TD passes have a combined 3 Super Bowl appearances. Plus can you name a playoff game that any of those 3 were the deciding factor in? Elway has the Drive the most famous game winning/tying drive ever. (more than the Ice Bowl). Also his last game he won the Super Bowl and MVP? Marino's last game was a 62-7 loss. How about Farve, "the media's darling" his last pass a bad throw that was picked and cost the Packers a chance to go to the Super Bowl. Gimme Elway, and his knack to win the game when it counts the most. The 4th quarter!

by broncfanstuckinsd on Apr 8, 2008 2:28 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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