I Like Mike.
Mike Shanahan doesn’t need me or any other yahoo to justify his position with the Denver Broncos but because there is so much chatter over last year’s 7-9 record I just want to remind the people calling for his head what he has accomplished at the helm of the franchise and state my reasons why getting rid of him would be a enormous mistake.
Most of the whining about Shanahan is directed at his role as a GM and his personnel decisions. If you listen to the likes of ESPN’s Sean Salisbury you might not think Denver has never fielded a winning team under coach Shanahan’s watch. The truth is the opposite. He has only two losing seasons since 1995 (Both were with first year as starter quarterbacks) and no embarrassing 2-14 or 4-12 debacles. Only the Packers have had fewer losing seasons during this period. Unfortunately for him his success in the wins column has resulted in no top 10 draft picks in his tenure. Since 1995 Denver is the only team not to visit the top 10. In fact half the teams in the league have had at least a #1 or #2 in this time frame and a bunch of those have multiple appearances up at the top. Fact: Most high rated drafts are from teams with high draft picks and they usually only have those high picks by having bad records the year before.
So, because Shanahan’s average pick is #22 he has had to be more dynamic acquiring talent. He has a reputation of finding running backs in the late rounds (see NFL.com #3 all time draft steal Terrell Davis) and almost no free agents ever turn down his offers. Sure he has brought in some players that don’t work out but he ejects them as soon as he figures it out and some do actually stick. The Superbowl teams were filled with under-hyped free agents (easy Ed, Romo, Gordon, Braxton ect…) brought in to fill gaps and even crazy plots like pillaging the Browns D-line netted Denver an AFC championship game in the mile high city. Bottom line, Mike is a great play caller but he hasn’t won all the games he has without having some gifted players on the roster.
Another popular gripe is: “Shanahan hasn’t won anything without John Elway.” It should be: Elway never won anything without Shanahan. At Stanford Elway never even went to a bowl game. Shanahan was part of a 1975 championship Oklahoma team, a division II east Illinois national title team and has Superbowl ring with one of the most productive offenses in NFL history the 1994/95 49ers. Dan Reeves had Elway for a lot longer and never cashed in. History has proved it is not an easy task to continue to win when a hall of fame quarterback retires. Shanahan helped the post-Montana Niners do it and he has been more than keeping his head above water with Denver since Elway hung ‘em up.
But enough about Mike Shanahan’s Hall of Fame past…
I would be for axing the little guy too if I thought 7-9 was due to anything more than the fact the NFL system is designed to break down the good teams and give preference to the losers through the draft and schedule so they can become more competitive. Prolonged success is the culprit to the Broncos demise and there is no coach and or GM in the history of the game that would have prevented the inevitable decline. However, Mike Shanahan is a visionary. After the AFC championship game against Pittsburgh he knew his roster needed retooled. He already devoted a draft class to finding D-backs that could help neutralize passing games like the Colts were killing them with in the playoffs but he also saw Jake Plummer was not the man to get them to the next level. So he bit the bullet. Another coach would have remained status quo, made the playoffs in 2006 and would have had a winning record last year but Shanahan made a Hall of Fame brained decision and opted to purge the roster and replace it with new era players. I think it is nothing less than amazing how quick this transformation is taking place and anyone that thinks Mr. Bowlen needs to pull the plug on it is just crying for 4-12 next year and maybe never seeing Vince Lombardi again in this lifetime.
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Substitute Crocket for Braxton
Sorry I just looked at that roster and knew I had it wrong.
by HBBeough on May 1, 2008 4:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
You will find the MHR community very pro-Shanny.
Though there are those of us who vocally dislike him, but I am definitely in your camp in regards to Shanahan. He has done nothing but keep the Denver Broncos a tough competitive team during his entire tenure…not to mention two Super Bowl titles. ;)
by Tim Lynch on May 1, 2008 5:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Pro Shanny or not...
From what I’ve seen of the contributors on MHR at least everyone is thoughtful and I am not immune to having my own opinion swayed by valid facts.
Anyway, if one 7-9 season meant, “fire the coach” there would be 15 new hires every year. I think Shanny’s track record deservers the benefit of the doubt.
Thanks for reading Zappa.
by HBBeough on May 1, 2008 6:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good post...btw...you look a lot like Tom Nalen :P
by phantom818 on May 1, 2008 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you look like a 2000 yd rusher
I know why Nalen had to look that way. He was just making sure no one got confused as to what was up… I mean he does have a job where another man has his hands on his… nevermind.
by HBBeough on May 1, 2008 7:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The anti-Shanahans can never recommend a
suitabe replacement. Sure, he has had his bad moments, but when the torches are lit and the pitchforks are picked up in anger, no one can ever come up with a more appropriate candidate.
Houston and Kubiak seem to go together like peanut butter and jelly, so there is no realistic chance of getting him to come back and run the Broncos.
by Arctic Bronco on May 1, 2008 6:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Coach Shanahan
I think perspective is related a lot to age. If I were a young guy and my team had just lost I would live in the present. As an older guy I don’t get stuck in the present.
Sure last season was painful. But looking at the season from the perspective of being a fan for decades, and you realize that we Broncos fans are spoiled. We are so used to playoff appearences that we don’t realize that most teams rarely see a playoff.
I’m willing to trade the rare losing season for the mulitple chances Mike’s teams give us. The first goal is to get to the playoffs, and the season starts over right there. Shanahan gives us more chances at SBs most years by just getting us to the playoffs. Look at what he did in Plummer’s last year (AFC Championship game), and that was recent!
I look at Mike’s record, not one season. When you look at his record with this team, you can’t really recommend a better coach.
Good call HB!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on May 1, 2008 7:29 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd be curious if there is a relationship
between a fan’s loyalty to Shanahan and the number of Super Bowl losses the fan watched. For whatever reason, I think that those of us who suffered through three (or four for some) losses are more likely to stick with Shanahan through a short term slump.
by MattR on May 1, 2008 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being a lifelong fan
of the Colorado teams is kind of bizarre. On two hands, you have the Avalanche and Broncos, who have delivered a combined 4 championships to the city in the last 12 years and consistently competitive teams with rabid fanbases. On two feet, you have the Nuggets and Rockies, who have experienced brief shots of succes recently, but for the most part have played a distant 3rd and 4th fiddle in terms of on-field/court/ice product.
If nothing else, it provides a great balancing act of the consistently good and…the part we all want to forget. Now, it should be noted that I’m pretty young for “lifelong” to mean much (juuust about 21, and I only remember following sports from when I was 4, so we’ll say 17 years of fandom), but from what I’ve learned, it’s all about your perspective. There are a ton of knee-jerk reaction fans who think only about the past season, or are stuck with tunnel-vision to only see the Willie Middlebrooks and not the Ben Hamiltons.
So basically, as young guy who has experienced a little losing, I find myself disappointed, naturally, but ultimately I see the rest of the league and teams like Arizona and I can understand how well we have it. Last season was undoubtedly tough, but it didn’t make me love the team any less or the games less worth watching. I love this team more than….about anything else in my life (my ‘game’ room in my house is painted blue and orange with the logo taking up an entire wall, heh).
And while typing this out, MattR JUST responded. I have admit, I was too young to see the losses, but I’m about as loyal a Shanahan supporter as there is out there. I ran into a famous ex-Bronco at a location I’m not allowed to discuss, and I spent the entire time I was talking to him about Shanny. The dude fascinates me, and if you gave me the option to pick a leader of a franchise, he would be my first, second, and third choices. I see his “slump” and kind of scoff.
Sure, the Colts and Patriots are consistently at the top, but is it their coaches or GMs that lead the charge? No, I don’t think they’re to be given all the credit. You look at the amazing fortune of selecting first in the 1998 Draft and landing one of the most cerebral QBs in the history of the game, and you’re bound to have some success. The Colts already had his number 1 target, Marvin Harrison, in place from the 1996 draft that was FILLED with phenomenal WRs. Not to take anything away from the Colts because they’re a very well run organization that has capitalized on multiple opportunities, but it’s undeniable to say they suffered through a bad year and have been rewarded with a lot of good ones. Had they had the number pick in any other year, there likely would have been a SIGNIFICANT drop off.
I’d say more on the Pats, but I’m kind of tired of rambling and I’m completely off the original response to HT, so I’ll let it alone.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 1, 2008 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point about perspective
Maybe the reason I am so patient with Shanahan is that I grew up in New York surrounded by Jets fans who suffered through some putrid teams with bad coaches. One of my earliest football memories is the chant “Joe must Go” which was followed shortly thereafter by “Cut Bruce Loose”.
by MattR on May 1, 2008 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shanahan Bashers
I think most fans who want to oust Shanahan are 1) Spoiled as ht points out or 2) not aware of what all Coach Shanahan brings to the office every day in terms of knowledge, experience, dedication, and desire.
They are not bad people, just uninformed.
Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson
by firstfan on May 1, 2008 7:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I got to this blog too late...
... to add very much that’s new. But I can say I remember the bad old days. Things have never been sweeter than they have been under Shanahan.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on May 1, 2008 8:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Post
I have quit the newspaper web-site comments because of the horrible calls for Shanny’s head. I live in Seahawk-country and after our 7-9 season people here were hoping Mike’s time would be freed up. They were very much hoping because they very much want him in Seattle.
by Mike Clark on May 1, 2008 9:16 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
There's a huge difference
Between logical, critical analysis, and knee-jerk over-reaction. It’s easy to say “OMG 2 bad seasons, fire Shanny!” But that is pretty poor logic. The struggles of the past season are (IMO) the result of some bad drafts 4-6 years ago. Is it appropriate for us to look at those drafts and examine their flaws? Of course! But most here would concur that the last 3-4 drafts have been good to excellent…suggesting a change in fortunes in the very near future. It doesn’t make sense to can the staff that is presiding over such a rebuilding.
Plus…excessive negativity is never good (but neither is excessive optimism, oddly enough.) Mistakes have been made, but the team is (again, IMO) trending up. Shanahan has a legacy of winning, and I wouldn’t trade that for any of the “I’m just going to cover my @$$” coaches out there.
~Uffdah
by Disco_Stu on May 1, 2008 10:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I also like Mike.
However, I think it’s worth at least pointing out that as a coach and playcaller, he has taken the foot off the gas near the end of the game a few times in recent seasons and we have lost as a result. To me, the Chicago game last year was by far the most egregious. The play calling became extremely conservative (run, run, run, punt--to Devin Hester, no less) once he had adjudged the margin to be enough—it wasn’t. Don’t get me wrong, I’m definitely on Shanny’s side: I’m very optimistic after this draft, and with players coming back from injuries [specifically Nalen and Hamilton], and a more favorable schedule than last year, I’m certain we’ll surprise more than a few “experts.” Also, I’m by no means a fan of Belicheat and running up the score. Yet, I’d like to see a little more of the killer instinct I saw in years previous, because I think Shanny of ten years ago showed that there’s a difference between killing off a game with an assertive and appropriately aggressive offensive strategy and running up the score, in my opinion.
Re: MattR’s comment. I couldn’t agree with you more. Having suffered through all those Reeves’ Era losses, I’ve grown fairly attached to Shanny’s success, and I have faith that he can take us back there. It’s just going to take a little more time and tinkering.
by Arturo Bandini on May 2, 2008 8:41 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Running up the score
Running up the score is having a 30 point lead late in the fourth and going for it on fourth down (NE vs WAS).
I agree; Mike’s never done anything like that.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on May 2, 2008 10:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I remember that Chicago game
It looked so good in the third quarter.
I think you should pretty much play the game plan from start to finish also. I hate prevent defense and clock burning offense with high predictability and no creativity.
What the Patriots did last year was just stupid though. In TD’s 2000 yard season he spent alot of time on the bench late in games or else he could have sniffed 2500. I would not risk an injury to Brady in meanless fashion. No team relies more on one guy than NE and they are very lucky nothing happened.
by HBBeough on May 2, 2008 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some more perspective,
see Steelers, Pittsburgh. Bill Cowher was HC for 15 years, had 3 losing seasons and a 3-season streak of no playoffs. He was supposedly on the hot seat several times, but they stuck with him and finally won. Cowher won just once, but he will forever remain in Steelers and NFL lore. Shanny has two championships, and it doesn’t matter that they were early in his career or with Elway and Davis. A ring is a ring. And two rings are two rings. The Steelers have a heck of a lot more franchise success than our Broncos, but they went 26 years between championships. So, it’s been 10 years for us. Big deal.
My beloved Mets have one once in my lifetime, and that was 22 years ago. Us Mets fans are STILL reliving those moments. Sad, but quite true. I wasn’t even a fan yet last the Islanders won, 25 years ago. Frankly, I hope Shanahan sticks with the Broncos for another 20 years. This concept of being competitive every season and having at least some worthy reason to think we’ve got a chance to go all the way? It’s for lack of a better term REALLY NICE. Most other teams’ fans do not have that luxury. Sure, the Colts and Pats are where we were 10 years ago. But think about what THEY used to be like pre-Manning and pre-Bledsoe. They were both a complete and utter joke. The Broncos? They haven’t fit that moniker in my entire LIFE.
Shanahan is quite deservedly still the man, in my mind at least. HBBeough, I agree with all of your points. We are so lucky to be Broncos fans. Don’t anyone forget it.
by Douglas A. Lee on May 2, 2008 9:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
To be fair
I wouldn’t call the Bledsoe Patriots a complete and utter joke. They were good, but they obviously weren’t this good. I’m only defensive of Bledsoe because I liked him… and always enjoyed beating him into the ground when we played him.
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 2, 2008 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right, but
although my brain first said pre-Brady, I caught myself and did in fact write “pre-Bledsoe”
by Douglas A. Lee on May 2, 2008 1:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
Touche. Then our brains work alike, because I saw the B and I guess immediately translated to Brady. My bad =p
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 2, 2008 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post, recommended
I will be a Shanahan backer until the day he decides to call it quits. It’s not based on nostalgia either. Sure I appreciate him taking our team and John Elway to the promised land of Superbowl Champions. I still get goosebumps every time I hear Dave Logan’s voice, “Pass is going to be . . . incomplete! Denver holds! Denver’s going to win! Oh, baby, they’re going to win this thing! Are you kidding me?” Admit it, you got goosebumps just then too, I did writing it. Those were great times, but what is more amazing to me is that somehow coach Shanahan was able to piece together a team captained by Jake Plummer and take them to the AFC Championship game. He took a bunch of castoffs and took them farther than anyone else could have. We got through the “cap hell” that kills off many a championship team with only 1 losing season. And given our moves this year, our cap situation should vastly improve in the next few years.
We picked near the end of the draft for so long and we spent money on players that didn’t work out, but we still remained competitive while other teams who had similar success dropped way off and had to go through a complete rebuilding. We’re mad when our rebuilding year is 7-9 instead of 3-13. Spoiled indeed we Bronco fans are. We had a very young team last year, QB’d by a guy who had diabetes and lost 35+ pounds, we had injuries galore including half of our OL out (Nalen and Hamilton out with Lepsis never regaining his pre-injured form), our #1 WR out, our #1 RB sidelined for most of the year, and yet we were still somewhat competitive.
I’m excited for this year to see what coach Shanahan can do with a team that has a bunch of guys who have the character to give it their all, every down, 60 minutes each week.
by Darin H on May 4, 2008 12:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I second your entire comment!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on May 4, 2008 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I have to add
is that threads like this make me proud to be a Bronco fan and just completely prove that MHR is the best thought out, most insightful Broncos site in existence! Thanks to everyone who posts regularly from us guys who read regularly!
Win or lose, do it fairly. -- Knute Rockne
by broncosmontana on May 5, 2008 1:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Great article
I am to a Shanny supporter no matter what. I was not happy when Bowlen would not give Mike what he wanted in 1993 and gave the gig to Wade. I knew that was gonna end badly. Sure enough it did. But I was also glad to see that nobody hired him. You could tell right away with Shanny that it was a different team in 1995. It was a waa great to see him start to load that team, and develop a running attack. I am in the camp to say without Shanny Elway may have never gotten a ring. No knock on Elway but I think Shanny brought to the Broncos the right mindset and a GREAT offensive scheme. Plus any coach that can, with Plummer as your QB make it to the AFC title game is a GREAT head coach. But he did see the writing on the wall. Jake had 4 turnovers in that game and right then he knew he needed a QB. As what Steve Young said during that draft now Shanny has a QB he can trust. Too me that speaks volumes. I look at what he has done so far this offseason and I think its a better team than it was last year at this time. Plus when its said and done Mike will have the last laugh on all his skeptics.
Plus I still get goose bumps watching Elway do his helicopter. Man that was AWESOME!!!!!!!!
by broncfanstuckinsd on May 5, 2008 5:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Another reason why I like Mike
Because my name is Mike and I just pretend that you talking about me….just kidding. Really! I’ m just kidding!
Shanny brought something to this team, and I’m not sure what it is. Some sort of intangisomething. I wonder, back when blogging had not yet exploded, did Shanny keep things, and his players, away from exposure and exploitation. Did he stick up for people back then …I don’t know. We had a strange team back then. The best QB talent ever (as far as I care) but getting old. A slow wide reciever (Shannon), but big enough to ‘pretend I’m a tight-end’. A big reciever (Ed)-too slow to be a wide or a slot-but he did. An undrafted Reciever setting records for undrafted recievers ( Smith to the Hall). We did have the best one-cut, “See-Ya!” back, in the history of the NFL. (Davis to the Hall). We had one of the best ever offensive lines…but they could not talk…all mutes. Go figure.
I’m not sure what Shanny brings to this team. It is an intangisomething..and I think we will start seeing it work.
by Mike Clark on May 6, 2008 11:45 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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