Clady's our best offensive weapon
Now when people think of offenses they never think of an Offensive Linemen let alone consider them the best weapon on a team. Most people think that all a linemen can do is improve the run game and give QBs extra time to throw the ball but Clady improves our offense more than that. We'll start seeing dividends immediately from some of our higher paid players.
As a LT he's going to have to protect Jay Cutler's blindside even more now that Cutler has recently been diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes. He'll provide time for Cutler to throw the ball but not only will he do that but he will also allow DANIEL GRAHAM to become the receiver he wants to believe. We'll no longer use him as an extra linemen. I'm predicting Graham to get about 40 to 50 catches this year. Maybe after this season people will see why we paid all of that money to get Daniel Graham.
Also Denver loves to run the stretch play to our RB. Clady knows how to seal any defenders on the play. If you don't believe me ask the Oklahoma Sooner's defense that lost in the Bowl Game a few years ago. Now Travis Henry can find the holes in the defense and break off big gains thus taking pressure off of Cutler. And now that we have our staple back in the run game teams will have to play to that allowing us to run the Bootleg more effectively than the past couple of years.
Some of Clady's haters always want to bring up his low wonderlic score. That's a dumb argument because when he took the test he had just tore a pectoral muscle. He wasn't thinking about the test at the time. Another argument is that he won't understand the ZBS and he'll end up like George Foster. Well Clady ran the ZBS in college and he understands it as to where Foster couldn't even grasp it.
I think Clady will be our best offensive weapon this year. This is all if he lives up to his potential though.
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Good stuff Beast
As posted in the post by Wyoeng, the type 1 diabetes isn’t a real issue on or off the field. It will get a lot of coverage, but it has zero impact on Jay Cutler the football player.
I might disagree on one small point. Clady’s ability to block at LT may actually have the reverse effect on Graham. If Clady shuts down the weak side, blitz packages may have to be intensified on Cutler’s vision side. This could hold Graham in more. If Graham is very, very dominant you might even see the defensive line shift left (from the defense’s view) before the snap.
On the other hand, I very much agree with you on the wonderlic issue. First, you are right that there was the injury and he did state later that he felt that was a factor. I also wrote this a few days ago in another story’s thread:
I’m not putting too much into the Wonderlic test in this case for a few reasons. My background before my current career was education and counseling (at the adolescent level). As a disclaimer, others did the testing in our practice. not me.There are a couple of reasons why I’m not big on the Wonderlic in Clady’s case. First, the test is a standardized test that is widely used, but its value is not in depth. It seems to me that if a candidate scores high there is little need for further testing. If a candidate scores low the teams look further. To me, it is reasonable to assume that Clady scored low and this set off red flags. Teams interested in Clady then did their own testing (much more in depth, individualized, and focused) to see if there is a problem and what it is.
I think it is reasonable to assume that Clady did poorly on the Wonderlic, and every team that looked at him brought in their own psychometrists (psych test folks) to look at him further. A lot of teams have good relationships and share such information with a release from the candidate. Clady may have just had a bad day, he may have a learning order but be otherwise very intelligent, he may have difficulties with tests (some people border on being phobic about testing), or he may not be the brightest guy on the field but still has functional knowledge in football and enough intelligence to learn.
It sounds like he was just having a bad day (injured and in pain). It’s reasonable to assume that he was tested after the fact by the Broncos or another team that shared their results with the Broncos.
I also agree with you that Clady already knows the system to a great extent. The BSU scheme is not exactly the same ZB you see with Denver, but it is as close at it gets. I don’t think Clady will need to wait to be a starter. He can go on day one.
Foster was a bad pick from the get go, and I thought his acqusition was flawed from the start. With Clady, we got our first choice. We wanted him more than Long and more than Williams.
I also like your point about Clady’s value to the team. He makes everyone around him look better just by doing his own job. He buys time for Jay, and by helping in the pass game he helps the run game indirectly.
Back to Graham, I think he earns his money by being a good blocker. A lot of fans are dissapointed if a TE isn’t a flashy, catching kind of receiver. But I think Graham earns every penny by being the best blocking TE in the League. I agree with you on another point. I expect Graham to catch more passes this year and to be an even bigger factor for Denver.
Good post Beast!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
On the subject of standardized tests:
I test VERY well. There is something about standardized tests that I just nail. I am smart, but I’m not a genius by any standards. I just don’t freak out, and I have a decent breadth of knowledge.
Then, there is my sister. She has been 1st chair violist at DU since her sophomore year. Her GPA is higher than mine. And she gets physically sick with tests like that. Her anxiety level sky-rockets, and it’s all my family can do to bring her back down.
I don’t think standardized tests are bad, but they are not the be-all and end-all of measuring intellect. I haven’t seen anything else to suggest that Clady is “stupid”, and most reports have his interviews as being very articulate. My guess (as of now) is that we can throw the Wonderlic scores out the window.
~Uffdah
A lot of my friends...
....think I am pretty smart. I get pressured to go on game shows sometimes by friends, and people I know are always asking me questions like they think I’m a rocket scientist or something.
But really, I’m not a genius. I just read a lot and when I take any kind of class I study my butt off. Like you, I do very well on all kinds of tests (I took the old ACT test instead of the more common SAT – I scored perfect on the social science section). I’ve also travelled a lot.
But I’ve learned that wisdon has little to do with knowledge. I guess that comes with age. The more I learn, the more I know about how little I really know.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on May 1, 2008 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions
last comment for the night
One of the naturally brightest people in my high school had issues when it came to some common sense things and somehow managed to set one of those special flame resistant science desks on fire.
The whole is larger than the sum of the parts
I think Clady makes our entire line better.
Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson
That's much better than having a "hole" in the line!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on May 1, 2008 11:45 PM MDT up reply actions
graham
i have to agree with ht here on graham. i’ve said before, i don’t believe he is ever going to be a threat in the passing game. ball distribution will probably be as follows: marshall, stokely, sheffler, #2 receiver(jackson?). there just isn’t much left after that, and i think we do intend to use him to assist in the running game, and even help out the o-line when they need it. at best, he may get some work in the red zone, but i can’t put him before the other 4 guys mentioned as potential targets. the top 3 are proven here already. he simply doesn’t have the speed or route running expertise of an elite tight end, and probably won’t. the idea of him being used in the passing game, i think, was more to sell his expensive signing than anything else. now if sheff goes down or takes a step back, then we may see a lot more of him on 3rd down. just my feeling on this, anyway
Wonderlic scores don't bother me
I can barely read or write and I’m doing just fine. All kidding aside, these tests seem like just another crazy hurdle slash evaluation of the players. The Wonderlic seems like a continuation of the absurd questions they ask at the combine. Like: Would you tackle your own mother? I would hope for his own sake that he is a bright, mature and thoughtful guy. Other than that, I really just want him to protect that left side of the line. Better yet, DOMINATE the left side of the line.
Nice post
I seem to remember when John Elway and TD were leading us to those Super Bowl victories, hmmmmmmmmmmm….............................Didn’t we have a Hall of Fame left tackle back then? LOL Clady was a great pick, and I’m stoked to watch him develope and hopefully give us that presence on the left side. GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Graham
I see the point that teams will try to overload the left side since he’s a rookie but I think that having Hamilton and Nalen back will help him on the blitzes. Nalen can point out the blitzed and Hamilton will help him pick it up. Plus Henry and Torain are both good pass blockers. Graham can stay back to help block but I don’t think he will for reasons stated above.
As far as i'm informed
the wonderlic is a number of riddles, you have to solve in some given timeframe – right? You measure the abillity to think quickly!
With that axiom (i’m hoping the word is the same in english as it is in Danish) in place, i would say, that you can only use the wonderlic-results on following players:
QB’s: Of course the QB has to have the abillity to observate and react – think quickly!
SAF’s: SAF being the QB of the defense – quick thinking is needed (Lynch).
LB’s: Quick reactions to formation changes => Abillity to sniff up plays.
To some extend recievers on option-routes has to be able to read the play – at gamespeed. DL also has to have smarts, but they are mostly physical players that have little advantage of quickthinking.
My point is that an OL gets an assignment in the huddle, and basically just has to execute. Maybe the C benefit from “football-smarts” as he most of the time is the leader of the line.
EVERY player benefits from football-smarts an quick thinking (just ask the NE-organisation), but the O-line is where the wonderlic means the least to on-field-production.
As i have never (!) played th egame myself, this i highly speculative – please correct me if i’m out of bounds on (some of) my points.
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!
by Claus Vestergaard on May 4, 2008 3:53 AM MDT reply actions
If you're right
we’re in trouble, so naturally I’m hoping you’re not. :) The ability to read and react to what’s happening in split seconds is important to all positions, including LT, but I’m not sure the Wonderlic measures that. I don’t think any sitting-down test, in which things happen much more slowly even if they do have to think of answers quickly, is capable of doing that.
"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen
You have the idea of the Wonderlic right.
It’s not all just riddles; there are a wide variety of question types, but they all can be answered very quickly if you see the way to get the answer. Here’s a sample set of questions that will give you an idea of what the Wonderlic is like. The highest-scoring players are offensive linemen and quarterbacks, with the offensive tackles usually doing the best of all groups.
Usually, the Wonderlic is most important for evaluating the O-linemen and QBs. There is a surprising amount of quick thinking that O-linemen have to do immediately before, during and immediately after the snap. They have their assignments from the huddle, but they have to be able to adapt to the defensive package, change their assignments if necessary, and predict how the other O-linemen might change their assignments. Not only that, but the way they execute their assignment will change depending on how the defender is planning to attack (e.g. handling a bullrush is far different from handling an outside technique).
The key is that the Wonderlic is an indirect measure of the quick-thinking reflex. It doesn’t correlate 100% to the ability to think quickly on the field. For example, the Wonderlic is a test that involves reading and writing, but playing football involves neither at the moment of the snap. A correlation does exist between the Wonderlic and field thinking, however, and that’s why they keep it. The basic idea is this: if a player has the mental agility to work through a wide array of problems in a short timeframe on paper, he has a better chance of doing the same thing on the field. It’s not perfect, but it’s extremely difficult to measure mental performance by indirect means.
It’s kind of like the 40-yard times. The fastest 40 doesn’t mean the guy will outrun everybody on the field. There’s a lot of difference between running a straight line in shorts and a t-shirt and running a route in full gear – especially after he’s been hit a few times. But the general trend is there. Your 4.4 guys will run faster than your 4.9 guys unless they get an insatiable addiction to creme-filled pastries.
Hope that helps.
Intelligence vs knowledge vs wisdom
I don’t know if the test is about the ability to measure “quick thinking” skills or not. I never saw the test used in any of my careers (adolescent psych, education, coaching), so I have to confess that I’m ignorant about any aspect of the Wonderlic. However, I would point out two things on this subject and add to the great thoughts of Spock and Hooper.
One, I noticed that all of the example questions that Hooper linked to had mathematical bases, but more importantly, every question has a short cut that one can use so that the test taker doesn’t have to wear himself down with a lot of calculations. This may be a test (to some extent) of intelligence, since a high IQ person can look at problems and solve them quicker because thay figure out shorter ways. Since I don’t consider myself to be a genius, I have another theory. Persons who have taught 6th grade (like myself) would be excellent QBs and offensive linemen because we learn how to solve “math story” problems like these in order to teach them (even though we are just neanderthal coaches). LOL
On a more serious note, Claus is at once both correct and incorrect. Some positions might require a better ability to process information quickly than other positions. But there are NO positions in football (as played at the professional level) where a player can get away with not processing information at fantastic speeds. Consider…
OL – Must read the defense in the few seconds they have before the snap to interpret potential blitzes, rush threats, who will commit those, and from where. ZBs also have the added requirement to calculate how to cover their zone before they reach it at the same time they consider where their RB is on the field behind them. This must not only be calculated in seconds, it continues to be calculated in “real time” during the play when the player is under physical assault!
Big, stupid guys on the OL won’t work out well. That’s not to say that an OL will come across as “smart”. He may not be verbaly advanced, and he may not have the advantage of certain knowledge to carry on a meaningful converstation. But he would still have the intellect to process information quickly.
Here’s a quick lesson on the interrelationship between intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom:
IQ, or intelligence, is a trait you are born with. IQ can be tested at different ages with different tests, but your IQ doesn’t change as you grow older (unless it goes down due to injury or illness). You can’t increase it. IQ is the ability to learn, store, and process knowledge quickly and, more importantly, efficiently.
Look at intelligence as a glass.
Knowledge is what you know. It is the data you have built up in your head about things ranging from trivia, to how to brush your teeth, to information you use to know how to do your job. It has nothing to do with how intelligent you are.
Look at knowledge as water.
Let’s pause here and look at some examples of how these things relate to each other, and why they are important AND not important.
Mozart was great because of his IQ. He could write an entire work of music in his head and put it onto paper (without error) in minutes. Good for him. His music was genius and beautiful. Bach, on the other hand, did not share this ability. Bach labored over his music for a long time to create great works. His IQ was not as high as Mozart. However, Bach’s work was so intense and his end product so incredible (some of his cannons and fugues are so complex that composers have yet to match them in terms of mathematical depth and still produce beauty) that his lack of IQ relative to Mozart is insignificant.
The same with chess (this one is for you Claus). American Bobby Fischer had a great IQ. He could hear a conversation in a language he didn’t know, and repeat it word for word several years later to a native speaker to find out what it meant. He had to study the game, but it took little effort. Dane Bent Larson was also a grandmaster. While he didn’t share Fischer’s amazing IQ, he studied his butt off and produced some of the most lovely games that chess afficienados have ever seen.
Let’s say I’m a genius. Let’s say my IQ is better than yours, and we are both students. I don’t have to study as hard as you to learn the same things. My glass is better and bigger than yours. But you apply yourself very hard to the material. At the end of the day you may have as much knowledge (water) or even more in your glass. A lot of intelligent people don’t know much, but that is rare. It’s hard not to learn if you are intelligent. But a complete lack of application makes an intelligent person “stupid”. By the same token, the less IQ one has the more they struggle with learning new things.
Wisdom is what a person values in their knowledge.
Take Forrest Gump. Very low intelligence, but his travels gave him a lot of experiences (knowledge). He valued human realtionships and (despite a low IQ) was relatively very wise because of it.
I have encountered criminal personalities that run the gamut. Some have the intellect to be very cunning and manipulative. Some are knowledgable about things, but only if it concerns them. This self centerness leads to knowledge (street smarts) that they focus on, but not helpful knowledge (like education or job skills). But wisdom is the big hang up. They often don’t have the wisdom to realize that their behavior is the problem, and they blame others for everything that happens to them. A sense of responsibility is just one quality of wisdom.
Does all of this relate to football? Heck yeah! Here is a little saying I used all of the time with our teams:
“HARD WORK BEATS TALENT WHEN TALENT DOESN’T WORK HARD”.
The idea carries over to academics, as well as sports. Poor teams must realize that they must exert effort constantly to overcome their shortcomings, but they can still win if the other team loses focus. Good teams must realize that their talent doesn’t matter if the other team plays harder.
The same in education/psychology. The student that applies him/herself as hard as possible doesn’t need to worry about the class genius, even if the professor is grading on a curve.
Sorry about rambling there. I rarely get to write on something that spans over three of my careers.
So in sum, OLs still need to be smart, Forrest Gump – wise, Fischer defeated Larsen on his way to beating Spassky in what major city? Yes! Chess trivia! Fischer beat Larsen in the Candidates’ Chess Match series in DENVER COLORADO! And Bach is the best!
Peace out!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on May 4, 2008 9:58 AM MDT up reply actions
Bravo!
I’d stumble over myself trying to comment on most of what HT just said…so I won’t. However, I CAN comment on testing!
First, the Wonderlic is a 50 question test with a 12 minute time limit (here’s a link to an ESPN article with some more sample questions.) The questions range in difficulty, getting progressively more difficult as the test goes on. A score of 10 suggests literacy, while the average NFL player score is 20. In that light, Clady’s score of 13 is not impressive.
So what can we make of the score? Well…not a whole lot right now. It is possible that Clady has below-average intelligence/knowledge for his position. However, people that know him insist that Clady is NOT un-intelligent. He tore the pectoral muscle at the combine (decreasing his ability to perform and potentially hurting his draft position.) With only 12 minutes, it would only take a couple distractions and/or a “brain fart” to really jack up the test (for example, I’d like to know how many questions he REALLY got through before panic set in and he was just guessing answers…stuff like that.) And if things aren’t going well to begin, and he hits a problem that completely throws him for a loop…it can spiral pretty bad.
Plus, as HT mentioned, many of these standardized tests have “tricks.” Test prep for such exams usually revolves around stuffing as many of these “tricks” into your head as you can…without ever really needing to use them ever again. If you don’t have a toolbox of these tricks, you’re in trouble, as time will become a huge factor, and you are likely to score lower than those that crammed the tricks in. Now, some people already know many tricks, and some people may just be wired to solve the logic/math problems that are prevalent on standardized tests. Clady could be intelligent and knowledgeable…but just not have the background that makes these tests easier to take.
So what’s the truth? I don’t know. The score was initially a bit scary, but considering how many people have endorsed the man (including the Denver coaching staff), it’s reasonable to say that Clady should be given the benefit of the doubt for now.
~Uffdah
I second everything you say
Both about HT’s comments and about Clady’s score. Like you, I would be very interested to see how many question’s he actually answered and which ones they were. (ie. did he answer 13 of the first 16 correctly and that is it OR did he try and answer all the questions but got most wrong, etc)
Oh, and hooper is right on as well with his comment above.

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