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MHR University Extra Credit Option- What about the "IF's"

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So I am not a huge fan of the "IF" game but I got to thinking about the "if's" yesterday and I came up with a question to pose not only to myself but you guys. "Did Mike address the 'if's' that surround our team this reloading season?" I guess to answer that question you have to go back to last season and find our break downs. This is nothing more than a simple question with a complex answer. Read More if you want to follow my crazy logic.

THE BIG QUESTIONS:

  • "IF" Travis Henry is injured again are we relying on speed backs as our only backfield solution?
  • Are we capable of suiting up ANY type of Defense "IF" our new coordinator doesn't work out?
  • "IF" our number one wide receiver is injured, are we capable of a good passing game regardless
  • How deep are we "IF" injuries happen?
  • We can get the ball longer and in better position "IF" the ST unit has a good return.

These questions are the first that come to mind but are just a few of the many "IF's" we have. Like I said, I do not like to play the "IF's" but there are people who do and they are the ones in mind when writing this.

Star-divide

"IF" Travis Henry is injured again are we relying on speed backs as our only backfield solution?

~ I think our draft choices proved this. With Hillis and Torain, we found some bigger backs that can take the punishment and keep Young and Hall as speed/ spell guys! This was probably a bigger concern to Shanny than most of us thought. We needed another big brusier back and he went out and grabbed not one but two and one can block exceptionally well! I do believe this "IF" is taken care of.

Are we capable of suiting up ANY type of Defense "IF" our new coordinator doesn't work out?

~I am not concerned about our new DC not working out. My concern is do we have the guys needed for every situation? Do we have the speed, size, tackling, intangibles, catching, etc for every team we are playing this year? can we match up well enough to play a good game? I think we have done well. I look forward to our three DT's (Thomas, Powell and DRob) making solid contributions with McKinnley coming in as well here and there. Once again I think we snapped this "IF" from our list


"IF" our number one wide receiver is injured, are we capable of a good passing game regardless?

~Perfect question now that BMarsh is in fact OUT. I think we not only got ourselves a good set of #2's but shored up our receiving corps in general. The only time I want Martinez on the field is when we are up by 14-21 in the fourth quarter. We have done well insuring that Cutler has a load of weapons should Marshall sit on the sideline at any time. Once again, Shanny did a great job of eliminating this "IF"


How deep are we "IF" injuries happen?

~ I don't think anyone can question that Denver went DEEP this year as far as signings and the draft are concerned. In fact most of our players from this draft will see more ST time than other time, barring any injuries. I would say Denver went for depth this year adding some of the most talented rookies out there. This "IF" is done!

We can get the ball longer and in better position "IF" the Special Teams unit has a good return.

~Eddie Royal, 'nuff' said! Our Special Teams will be much more productive this year than last. With speed and elusiveness Eddie will scare some peoples kicker/punter to kick away and possibly hit the outta bounds on kickoffs STARTING us at the 40! I would be excited to see a few of those in Denver's favor this year.

 

With so many "IF" questions out there I want to say this, "IF" is NOT a DENVER BRONCOS WORD OR SCENARIO! Guru is known far and wide for saying that he isn't concerned with the "IF's" so I will attribute no more posts to this word! Thank you for your time!

 

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Did we address our "IF" questions during the reloading season
Yes
19 votes
No
3 votes
Not only did we fix 'em can you say SUPERSTARS everywhere
2 votes
Bowlen needs to fire everyone from Shanny to the towel boy and start over!
1 votes

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Sorry Guru

had to do it. I have heard a few too many “IF’s” on the site.

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 13, 2008 10:09 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

:)

I need to start copyrighting my material!!!

-TSG

www.milehighreport.com

by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on May 14, 2008 4:38 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry HT

I stole your graphic I’ll take it down if you want bro!

Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 14, 2008 1:00 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another solid post Jon!

The only “If” I’m unsure on is special teams. No matter how great a returner looks in college, it is hrd to tell if they’ll do anything at the pro level. But even if Royal is average or worse as a return guy, I think he gives us solid depth as a WR (probably at slot).

It’s the kickers and punters I’m worried about. I have no idea how they’re going to do.

At DT I’m also unsure. But we’ve made some attempt (we’ll have to see how DRob and Powell work out, and see if Thomas continues to improve).

Like you, I voted “Yes”. I don’t think we are filled with superstars, but we did something as good. We gave ourselves depth everywhere. I think it is better to have a team with no weaknesses than a team with a few superstars.

Again, good job!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 14, 2008 2:47 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha ha

you will notice I didn’t say we fixed them. That question is better left to mid season. I think we did a solid job of making sure we didn’t go into the season with the same holes. Kicker/ Punter we still have a ? but my HOPE is 20yrds is all the kicker ever has to do and the punter never sees the field. Like you say you are unsure as am I we will see what happens come MNF.

Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 14, 2008 3:00 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everytime somebody mentions MNF

I get a shiver of anticipation.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on May 14, 2008 8:15 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We already have the superstars

we just needed to shore up the weaknesses, and I think we mostly did that. The kicking game is yet to be resolved, but I think it’ll come.
I don’t think we’ll see a repeat of last year, when we had to have a clutch kicker to survive. And I’m not worried about the return game, because I think O’Brien will pick up where he left off last year in improving the play of the ten guys blocking for the one who’s returning the kick. That’s the experiment that worked out, and I think ST play is going to continue to get better and become a Denver strength rather than a liability.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 15, 2008 3:08 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The defense

is the biggest IF. They are in the same situation that they were last year:

1) New coordinator
2) New players

The only difference from last year is that we THINK we might have gotten rid of dead weight and replaced it with high character/high motor guys.

All “IFs” should come with the following asterik:

*Only time will tell.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on May 14, 2008 8:14 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good points all

the asterisk is the best one and one i forgot to mention

Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 14, 2008 8:47 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree. The defense is THE if of 2008, but...

In 2007, I think the offense was a bigger “if” than it is now. I think the offense is on the fringe of the top 6 or 7 in the league, talent and coaching wise. We’ll see if they can be a top 10 offense in scoring this year, which is really all that matters.

I think what Denver’s goal in the draft was is to find hard nosed, do-anything types, that are versatile, more than anything. For the first time that I can remember, Denver has guys that fit into special teams, defense, offense, etc.

The last 3 picks of the draft were all guys that will play special teams and challenge for playing time at some point. Royal is a special teamer and deep threat. Torian should be a special teamer and short yardage/Mike Andreson type of back. I’m very impressed with this offseason, and I feel like the Broncos sorta “joined the party” this year.

We get NO LOVE on the national sites right now because of our offseason, and I love it. I can’t wait to hear Trey Wingo talk about how surprising the 5-1 Broncos on Monday Night Primetime before the Broncos/Pats Monday Nighter.

Last year, I felt like bad plays,missed tackles, and injuries piled up a bit on defense because people were out of position and tentative, this year, I feel like there is a sense of self awareness from the Broncos. Its “a presence I haven’t felt since..”

...(dorky Star Wars line) the mid-to-late 90’s.

I feel like the Broncos know who they want to be and who they are now. They have a much better plan than they’ve had in the past. But that’s just my feeling.

It seems like the Broncos vistited with Dr. Phil or something.

by super7 on May 14, 2008 12:37 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Wow

i really got pumped up by your comment. I agree that offense was #1 if last year with Marshall on the fringe (there was a huge battle for roster spots by the WRs last year in training camp, if anyone remembers) and Jay Cutler going into his first full year.

And going into this year I don’t think anything is as important to this team as becoming an effective redzone scoring team, on the other hand, I think we have addressed that as well as is humanly expected.*

Let’s see…

We get NO LOVE on the national sites right now because of our offseason, and I love it. I can’t wait to hear Trey Wingo talk about how surprising the 6-0 Broncos on Monday Night Primetime before the Broncos/Pats Monday Nighter.

...fixed. :)

And “Self-Aware” really says it all, on a much deeper level than perhaps you might realize.

To be “self-aware” is to be aware of the self, and of the conditions required for ones existence. knowledge of these conditions leads to an understanding of what actions are needed to create these conditions, and these actions are in turn the basis for an ethical framework.

In terms of Broncos football, they now realize that football success does not come at ANY cost, but at the HIGHEST cost, the cost of your daily and fanatical devotion to the best within you. I share your feeling sabout the draft: fundamentally the pieces they put in place are larger than the players they drafted. They prioritized not Oline and KR, but the RIGHT way to build a team, and the RIGHT way to win this damn game. And not by coincidence it is also the method that requires the most virtues (like patience, honesty, integrity, etc.)

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on May 14, 2008 3:31 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should know better

But I will take an opposing point of view. We are NOT in the same position as last year. Last year we had a new coordinator with an entirely new philosophy on defense. This was a philosophy endorsed by Coach Shanahan but not one his previous DCs had used . This new philosophy required players with fairly unique skill sets which we did not have on our roster. We attempted to fill this requirement with FA and that simply did not work which forced us to return to our more traditional schemes midyear. This placed even more pressure on our new players. This year, on the other hand, we have returned to a philosophy much more similar to that traditionally used by the Broncos and we have upgraded personnel at nearly every position and improved our depth. I think we are going to see the same defense all year this year. Of course, your asterisk says it all.

Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson

by firstfan on May 14, 2008 12:47 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree, firstfan. The comment that our defense is still the "if" is the only similarity to our problem going into 2007

Denver addressed things differently and with a far better philosophy, but in the end, Denver’s biggest weakness heading into the season is Defense.

by super7 on May 14, 2008 1:05 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm with you firstfan.

From the outside looking in, Denver is facing many of the same obstacles.

From the inside looking out, there is hope that these obstacles, while sharing surface similarities are vastly and fundamentally different.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on May 14, 2008 3:32 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reply to firstfan (and to Spock below)

Hey guys,

Yes and no (in my opinion) on the new system / DC situation.

On the one hand I agree with you that we are going to return to something that the Denver defense is used to. That’s a good thing. Also, Slowik won’t change existing terminology, so the guys don’t have to mess with all of that. But we’re not in the clear yet. While we are returning to “Broncos football” on the defense, there are still some hurdles to jump.

1. Even a change back to an old scheme is a change. It take time to readjust to switching back. Counting the mid-season system change from Run-Contain to Base / Man-Out this will be our third system change in just over a year.

2. Consider that we have a lot of new faces on the defense. It takes time for guys to know each other well enough to “read” each other during a play and know how to adjust based on what they expect a teammate to do.

3. Those new players are also learning a new scheme.

We are much better off than last year. But there may be some bumps in the road. Let’s not panic if we drop a couple of early games before the guys gell together and pick up what our new DC has ready.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 15, 2008 10:43 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good points HT

but let me add just one more. Last year players kept saying, We’ve got talent, guys are just not filling the right gaps, are not doing this, or not doing that. For the player just as for the team you are what you do. At some point you have to stop saying that so and so is a good player, he’s just not doing the job. If he’s not doing the job he’s not a good player. And the team addressed that by upgrading the linebacking corps, where a lot of the out of position stuff was happening. D.J. is back where he’s comfortable, and we have reason to feel good about Mike and Sam. I’m not quite as high on Boss as others are, but I have no doubt we’re better there. I think we’ve been blaming scheme changes too much. It wasn’t the scheme that suddenly made Gold ineffective. His skills eroded. Webster just wasn’t that good. Didn’t the two people ahead of him get hurt in training camp? And they weren’t exactly top drawer. Ditto for the veterans we brought in at DT. When the Broncos were waiting and waiting and waiting for guys to adapt to the new system last year, I don’t think they realized how much of it was deterioration of skills and lack of talent. We just weren’t as good as we thought we were.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 16, 2008 2:04 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I blame "changing" of schemes, not the schemes themselves.

If you get a chance to read some of my old stories and posts (as well as comments), you’ll read that I defended Bates and his system. I know it wasn’t working, but the change from a concept like “zones and man” to a totally different context like “contain” is radical. It takes time. It should take about half a season to start catching on (by which time the playoffs are out of reach). But about the time that something might have started to click, we switched. Perhaps it wouldn’t have mattered either way. As you point out, the players were’nt as good as we thought they were (though some of that may have to do with further adapting to changes in schemes).

I spent a little time last year pointing my finger at some players who seemed to be making mistakes that were associative with being a bad player (or a deteriorating one). Other players just didn’t seem to be understanding what they were supposed to do.

It’s worth mentioning that Bates has been a success everywhere he has been.

Your point is well taken.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 16, 2008 3:16 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Changing schemes

was part of the problem, true. What concerned me and I think others at the time was that, while we knew the run contain would take time to take hold, it was taking much longer than it had at Bates’ other stops. Bates himself acknowledged this, as I recall. That’s where the talent gap comes in, not just that we had the wrong personnel but that the stopgap people
we brought in failed miserably. The Broncos, perhaps moreso than his other teams, had relatively small, athletic linemen when Bates arrived. I wonder if Shanahan didn’t underestimate the difficulty and duration of the make-over? How long would it have taken, via the draft, to find the big and talented players the Bates system requires, and develop them?

But like you I was in favor of staying the course because, like you say, Bates has been successful everywhere else he’s been. I don’t know if Shanahan lost his nerve and pulled the plug too soon, or if he realized he’d make a mistake (in not realizing how long it would take to build a new defense almost from the ground up) and cut his losses.

One additional thought. Thanks to what I’ve learned from you, especially, it occurs to me that a two-gap player has to be not only bigger but more talented. He has to read the play and read it right, in the fraction of an instant, instead of just charging ahead. Either you or one of the articles you pointed us to mentioned that one-gap is easier for linemen to play. Warren was big enough to play Bates’ system. Perhaps the fact that he couldn’t is another reflection of the fact that, while he’s a pretty good linemen, he’s never quite lived up to expectations. Perhaps Shanahan and Bates were counting on him being able to make the switch. His inability to do so might have been the biggest single factor in the difficulties we experienced. He’s done fine for oakland. Is he playing one-gap there?

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 16, 2008 11:18 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree.

I think the perfect storm was that Mike, Bates, and a lot of us (me certainly), felt that the only variable to switch was to bring in big DTs to 2-gap for us (in FA). What no one counted on was that so many big names would be flops.

You are also right about the 1 and 2 gap issue in terms of talent. You have to be bigger and smarter to play 2-gap well (something we have a hard time getting our heads around, often thinking the two don’t go together). It’s not a dig at smaller and faster guys (who can be just as smart). They just have different talents, and you need whichever guy fits the scheme.

Warren will play one or two gap, depending on who he lines up next to. oak rarely runs plays with simultaneous 1 gappers at DT. They tend to always run one DT as a 2 gap, with the other DT (typically the smaller of the two) running either 1 or 2, depending on pass / run.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 17, 2008 3:01 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's getting scary..

I actually understand most of what you are saying. My question is how will we use Dewayne Roberston? Did we just trade Gerrard Warren for Dewayne Robertson?

Warren will play one or two gap, depending on who he lines up next to

Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson

by firstfan on May 17, 2008 1:36 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really don't know.

It depends on what system Slowik rolls out. With our current group of DTs, I could see him being used both ways depending on the play situation.

I’m expecting him to play much more 2 than 1. I think he can be a solid 2 gap DT in a 4-3. I’m really eager to see what gets shown in camp and pre-season. Denver won’t tip their hand much, but at least I expect we’ll get an idea of what Slowik wants to do.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 17, 2008 9:15 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you sir!

I can’t wait for the season to start!

Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson

by firstfan on May 18, 2008 12:01 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think they're equivalent

D-Rob has shown he can play two-gap. He was just kind of small to do it at the nose tackle position, which he won’t have to in Denver. Warren struggled trying to play two-gap, at least in Denver, which is why I wondered how much of it, if any, he’s doing in oakland. Also, with Warren there was always the question of motivation. He doesn’t show up every season, or every down within a season. D-Rob apparently has been willing to play with a lot of pain, so I think he’s not the slacker that Warren sometimes is. As far as I’m concerned he’s clearly a better player.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 18, 2008 1:53 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

I think you’ve nailed down each player perfectly.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 18, 2008 3:03 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But the new coordinator

is from in-house and isn’t imposing a scheme that’s radically different from the one we were using at the end of last year, that requires different players from the kind we have on hand. The new players are additions, not replacements for players not suited to the scheme the new coordinator is bringing in. So I don’t think we’re in quite the same situation. But you’re right about us getting rid of dead weight and bringing in high character/high motor guys, which is an additional plus. And yes, only time will tell.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 15, 2008 3:23 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IF we're healthy

that is the biggest question mark i have, with the “if” applying to the health of: ben hamilton, tom nalen, ryan harris, brandon marshall, brandon stokely, nate jackson, travis henry, darrell jackson, ebeneezer ekuban, jarvis moss, dewayne robertson, james winborn, john lynch, and pretty much 1/2 of the draft class and fa’s we picked up. THAT is the big if. some of these guys will not be playing much, and others are going to get hurt, it’s going to happen. this will determine how good we are this year more than anything else, but i do like our depth situation now(except dt and kickers).

p.s. i read on another site that eddie royal has “compartment syndrome”, a swelling of the ankle when your hearet rates accelerates. it is supposed to be serious and untreatable. does anyone know anything about this? it would be informative to see a medical breakdown of our new players, and if there are any potential trouble spots now, or down the road. is there a doctor in the house?

by davecheffy on May 14, 2008 11:17 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Injuries

are a wildcard for every team every year. The teams that do best tend to be the teams that are lucky enough to avoid injuries, or that heal at the right time. Some teams withstand injuries better than others, of course, and our added depth should help us in that regard. I didn’t know about Royal’s “compartment syndrome.” A medical breakdown not only of new players but of everyone who’s had injury issues (Moss, Ekuban, Marshall, D-Rob, Nalen, Hamilton, Henry, Young, Hall) would certainly be nice.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 15, 2008 3:37 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The great thing about it being the off season,

we can look at both sides of the coin. Can we get a post on “IF” everything works out? ;) lol, even though I think that was the trap many of us fell into before last season began. I remember most of us thinking 2007 was going to be a huge year, Top 5 defense, Top 5 Offense, yada yada. Guru did his “if” scenarios last year too, but I recall even he thought we were going to have a great season. So because of that, I have come to dislike “if” scenarios…I’d rather be Saint-like in my delusion…at least until the season begins. That is when reality kicks in. ;)

ask chef fans or fader fans…when your team is “rebuilding” the offseason is the only time you can really get excited. The difference between those teams and the Broncos is that we’re closer to turning everything around than they are. We are either breaking out this year or next year at the very latest!

by Zappa on May 14, 2008 4:33 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IF IF IF IF.........

One thing about the offseason, it is the time when all the “if” scenarios are thrown out there and beat around until we are sick of them. That being said, I am one of the worst out there when it comes to the “ifs.” I like to contemplate the Broncos and what their chances are each year, it’s about all thats left to us until minicamps start. To me, thats what makes this thing called Broncos Football fun and exciting. I am thankful that we have ownership and staff in place that will not sit on their hands, they are always striving to improve the team. That in and of itself makes it worth watching in the offseason. I’m not naieve enough to think we can go from 7-9 to the Super Bowl in one year, but it’s the growing process that is fun to watch. I wouldn’t mind if the Broncos just dominated for the next 20 years, but something tells me I’d get bored with that too. It’s the getting to the top and trying to stay there that makes this game so exciting. This league has a lot of parity and that is what makes it so fun. You never know from one year to the next who is going to be on top. Hopefully it will be our Broncos before too much longer. Anyway, I’ll quit rambling on. In short, I just wanted to say that I think we addressed all of our ifs this offseason, however, we won’t know how well we addressed them until the season gets going.

PS: Can we start the season tomorrow? LOL

by Broncofan on May 15, 2008 9:06 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LMAO...............

Sure thing Zappa, mebbe I’ll change my outlook and bail in with ya. LOL 13-3 BABY!!!!!!!!

by Broncofan on May 15, 2008 4:59 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great avatar!

Atwater if I am not mistaken.

Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson

by firstfan on May 15, 2008 10:39 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Zappa / Broncofan.

The nation of Denmark is watching us closely. We don’t want to do anything that might start a war. lol

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 15, 2008 11:03 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Compartment Syndrome Information From Wikipedia

Compartment syndrome is an acute medical problem following injury, surgery or in most cases repetitive and extensive muscle use in which increased pressure (usually caused by inflammation) within a confined space (fascial compartment) in the body impairs blood supply, without prompt treatment, may lead to nerve damage and muscle death. This condition is most commonly seen in the anterior compartment of the leg and posterior compartment of the leg.

The full information is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compartment_syndrome

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

by wyoeng on May 15, 2008 11:29 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks, dr. wyoeng

i read that eddie royal has this condition over at rocky mountain fever, under the “royal shock” post. i hope the broncos have weighed this carefully, considering the investment they have now put into this guy. it appears to be a problem for someone who does what royal does, but i guess he has been playing with it so far. i just hope it doesn’t cut his career short down the road, or greatly hinder his play. time will tell

by davecheffy on May 15, 2008 12:28 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Compartment Syndrome / Eddie Royal

According to the Wikipedia article, it is an acute problem. But according to this site (by doctors, for doctors)Compartment Syndrome can be acute or chronic. I don’t know about Royal’s diagnosis (I don’t have a link to the story about his condition). But I am not concerned. Here’s why.

First, if he had the “acute” problem, it would be an emergency, he would be treated, and the situation (barring complications) would be fixed. Thus, it is reasonable to assume he does not have the acute version.

The chronic problem is treatable. The article discusses issues with athletes in particular, and is positive.

Bear in mind as well that Denver has physicians and trainers that look these guys (and their medical histories) over with a fine toothed comb. The media may think it’s a big deal, but I’ll trust the Broncos and their medical folks.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

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