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MHR Broncos History Lesson -- firstfan Interview

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I sent out an email to one of our more decorated Broncomaniacs here at Mile High Report in the hopes of capturing some of the emotion and intrigue of our earlier years in the league.

We are fortunate to have members here like firstfan, TrinidadJack, Broncosfanstuckinsd, and others who are able to give us youngsters a glimpse into the past.  A glimpse of what it was like to be a Bronco fan when the team struggled to win more than four games in a season.   A glimpse of the pride and love the fans had for this team.

This is my first real interview of someone since the ninth grade, so be kind!

 

 

 

 

When did Broncomania really start to take hold? What was it like?

I think the first real out picturing of Broncomania was in ’65 when season ticket sales went from under eight thousand to over twenty three thousand just to support Gerald Phipps for saving the franchise. Broncomania was displayed in many different ways. Several people painted their cars orange. People dyed their hair orange. One guy painted his entire HOUSE Bronco orange.  From August until December the talk around every coffee pot and water cooler was the Broncos. But Broncomania was more than that. It was an attitude of pride, not that we had a great or even good team, but that we had a team. Broncomania was not restricted to the City of Denver. It encompassed the entire Rocky Mountain Region. But it was more than any of that. The more words I say to describe Broncomania the more I realize I am coming up short. Broncomania was a feeling.

The best way I can describe it is to give an example. We all know and love Hoosierteacher. He is our resident X’s and O’s expert who is the envy of every other sports blog on the planet. I think he must be a stodgy English Professor type. I picture him wearing a herringbone tweed sports jacket and reading Gentleman’s Quarterly. His hobbies are classical music and cooking. Now, take this conservative gentleman and paint his face orange and blue, put an orange cape on him and watch as he carries patrons of a bar in Pueblo around the bar. I introduce Captain Broncomaniac!

That’s what Broncomania did to rational people.

What did it mean to you to call yourself a Broncomaniac?

I never really considered myself as a true Broncomaniac. I am still hoping to reach that level of fandom.

 How did Floyd Little change this franchise?

Much has been written about how John Elway had such an impact on the franchise. This was because fans knew the game was never over as long as John Elway was in the game. "The Drive" simply gave national recognition to phenomena that the Denver fans were already familiar with. They were introduced to this phenomenon by Floyd Little. Floyd was not able to single handedly bring the team back like Elway was, but he brought that same excitement every time he touched the ball. Fans went to see Floyd Little play football. Simply stated, he was electrifying.

How instrumental was Lou Saban to turning around the 60's Broncos? 

Lou was responsible for turning the team around and for laying the foundation for the success of the mid and late seventies. The tenure of Lou Saban was a double-edged sword. Lou had started with the inception of the AFL as the coach of the Boston Patriots. He was lured to Buffalo in ‘63 and led Buffalo to consecutive championships in ’64 and ’65. He did indeed do all of the things I mentioned, but his inability to make the Broncos a winning team gave fuel to the east coast media fire that not even the great Lou Saban could make a winner out of those Denver jackasses. There is no doubt that there would never have been the ‘77/’78 Superbowl appearance without Lou Saban, but the east cost bias was validated.

Why were the Broncos so important to the city of Denver back then?

There were many reasons but I will cite two. First was economic. The Broncos were the first regional team. We drew fans from Salt Lake City to Dodge and from Great Falls to Albuquerque. Fans came to Denver and stayed in hotels and spent money. Second, they were a great unifier. Race, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, and political affiliation were all thrown out the window. The only consideration was “Are you a Bronco fan?” This was another big part of Broncomania.

Why do you think the fans in the 60's and early 70's loved the Broncos so much even though the team had never had a winning record?

First of all you must remember there was no Avalanche, Rockies, or Nuggets. The Broncos were front and center stage. Also, I think there was sort of a mass self-consciousness. We didn’t have the culture of a Boston or the rugged western character of a Dallas or the bad-boy image of oakland. We were just a dusty old cow town with no character and no pedigree. The Broncos may have been bums, but they were our bums and we loved them.

What was it like in the South Stands in the 60's and 70's?

The old South Stands have been romanticized and rightfully so. There was a camaraderie or spirit-de-corps to being a south stander. There were indeed “neighborhoods”. I remember using my father-in-law’s tickets and the adjacent fans saying “Oh you must be Don’s son-in-law from Alaska. We’ve heard of you. How are you doing?” I just felt like I was part of the gang. But it wasn’t all rosy either. I remember fans arriving totally intoxicated. This is before opening kick-off! Then there was the guy who would get so drunk that he would get sick. Thank God he was a row or two in front of us. Once or twice a year he would blow lunch all over the place and I don’t mean getting a little sick. This character had projectile vomiting that would probably rank in Guinness’ records if they kept such a thing. In short, the old South Stands were great, but they had a dark side too.

Tell us some of your best memories as a fan.

The Hill and the Hug were some great memories. Bears Stadium was built on the site of the old Denver Landfill. The terrain slopped down toward the Platte River which was to the east. There was a small hill just west of the right field foul pole. I couldn’t afford a ticket but I knew that hill was there and one Sunday I went down and sure enough, you could stand on that hill and see about half of the field and you could hear the stadium announcer. I wasn’t alone. There were quite a few people there. One guy had a transistor radio and he turned it to KOA and we listened together. We started meeting there every home game and got to know one another. One thing was kind of funny. There was a slight delay from the action on the field to the radio broadcast. It wasn’t a long delay like today but just a slight one. When a Bronco made a big play there would be a big roar from the crowd followed by a little echo from the Hill. 

One Sunday my Dad took me to the game and we had seats and everything. And they were good seats too, just to the outfield of the dugout down the first base side. Whenever I get on a plane I get stuck between two guys the size of Marcus Thomas and Dewayne Robertson. That is because I used up all my good luck that day, I was seated next to a gorgeous woman. She was an older woman, probably 22 or 23.  I can’t even tell you who we played that day but I know we scored late to win the game. I don’t think the high five had been invented then and fans were cheering and hugging one another. This gorgeous woman, a total stranger, turned and gave me the biggest hug ever.  I think I had stars in my eyes for weeks. 

Years later I met another beautiful woman and fell in love. We have been married for thirty nine years now, but that deal was sealed when I met her father. He was a certified Broncomaniac. He used to stand on The Hill, and now had season tickets in the South Stands! On one of my last visits to old Mile High I got seats in the South Stands. I was headed back to my seat and was going up the west aisle when we sacked the opposing quarterback. A huge roar erupted from the crowd and as it faded I heard a little echo. I looked over the rail, and there they were, the fans on The Hill.

Besides the 1972 Broncos-Vikings game, what is your most memorable Bronco game?

This is another question I have thought long and hard about. I will not count the Super Bowl victories as I think these are in the front of most Bronco fan’s minds. If I had to pick a most favorite play, I would say the John Elway helicopter.

I have two favorite games other than the Super Bowls. The first is the victory over the Detroit Lions on August 5, 1967. This was only a pre-season game. One of the leaders of the Lions was Alex Karras. Denver was such a laughing stock to the east cost that prior to the game Karras stated that “If Denver beats us I will walk back to Detroit.” Denver notched the very first ever victory by an AFL team over an NFL team when they defeated Karras and the Lions 13-7. Denver Diehard has Karras’ quote as his signature and I think that is the best sig on the site!

The second is the ’77 AFC Championship game versus the raiders.  The raiders were the defending Super Bowl Champions. In week five we played them in oakland. They jumped to a 0-7 lead. Our boys didn’t quit and ran off the next 30 points unanswered. The game was still pretty close and oakland stopped us in the red zone. Our kicker was Jim Turner and just about as automatic as Elam. Instead our back-up QB Norris Weese who was the holder stood up with the ball to pass. The raiders saw the fake and covered all of the receivers but they forgot about old Jim Turner who caught the pass and rumbled in for a TD.

We ended up with six or seven interceptions of Kenny Stabler that day. We met two weeks later at Mile High and the story was different. Stabler lit us up for 24 points and our fourth quarter comeback try fell short.  We only allowed 148 points TOTAL that year and that game was 24 of them! The rubber match was the AFC Championship game. The very first play of the game was a 74 yard bomb from Morton to Moses and Denver went up 7-0. The game went back and forth but Denver held on for a 20-17 victory over Madden and the raiders.

Where were you when the Broncos made their first Super Bowl appearance?  What was it like?

Oh boy! You touch a nerve on this one! That Super Bowl was the first ever live broadcast of anything in Anchorage! I was glued to the TV along with every other resident of Anchorage. We kicked off and the Cowboy return man muffed the kickoff. We nearly recovered at the Cowboy 1, but they got the ball. I think if we would have got that fumble we would have won the game. Instead, we could never get on track and committed something like seven or eight turnovers and Dallas killed us.

Who is your all-time favorite Bronco?

This is perhaps the toughest question you have asked.  Most of you know how much I admire and respect Floyd Little. That can never change. But my favorite Bronco of all time is Rod Smith. Rod was never the glory boy. He worked his way up from the practice squad as an undrafted free agent. Rod epitomized hard work and team first attitude. In my humble opinion, if we had 53 players on our 2008 roster with Rod Smith’s heart, desire, and commitment we would win back to back to back Super Bowls over and over again. I absolutely love my daughter-in-law. I was stumped at Christmas for a gift. The highest expression I could think of was a # 80 Smith Bronco jersey.

Who is your current favorite active Bronco?

That is another tough question. For now I am going to say Chris Kuper.

Is there anything else you would like to add?

Several people have asked if that is really my picture on my avatar. Yep, that is me. The missus took my picture and we put it there for all to see.  I will note that I am not normally that soft. I am generally a nasty old bastard which is not reflected in that picture.   ~firstfan

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Who was it that said something like,

“Who led us to the promised land?!” And the team responded, “Moses, Moses, Moses!” One of the best quotes after that AFC Championship game.

by Zappa on May 16, 2008 5:11 PM MDT   0 recs

Don't worry Zappa

It is the first time I have ever been interviewed, unless you count the time by the guy in the blue suit carrying a gun.

Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson

by firstfan on May 16, 2008 8:09 PM MDT   0 recs

i bet that was a short interview...

...something like “are you firstfan”, ‘yes”, “come with me”.

by davecheffy on May 16, 2008 9:15 PM MDT   0 recs

Great Interview guys

I hope that Rod Smith finds this article someday so that he will realize how much he meant to all of us Bronco fans. It really says something when a person who has been watching the Broncos for nearly 50 years picks Rod over all the other great people we have had on our squad.

by danver on May 16, 2008 11:39 PM MDT   0 recs

Helluva job

both of you. Great stories, especially the one(s) about The Hill. Some of them bring back memories. I remember that 30-7 win, when the Broncos finally established themselves against the raiders, and the second game, too. The raiders got off the plane looking confident and determined, and they fired off the ball in perfect unison and drove the Broncos off the line of scrimmage most of the game, running up a 24-0 lead. But the Broncos pounded away late in the game, like they did all year, and fought back to make it 24-14. They didn’t win but they didn’t fold, either. That was the kind of team they were.

I also have a single vivid memory of Little, date and team indeterminate. He’s in the open field and the defenders converge on him from all directions. He disappears from view. And then he somehow bursts out the other side. He was electrifying.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 17, 2008 12:46 AM MDT   0 recs

SB XII

I don’t remember that SB, but I agree that, if the Broncos recover that fumble, they might have won because Dallas would have had to play their game, not the other way around.

by PABroncofan on May 17, 2008 1:25 AM MDT   0 recs

This must be one of the articles on MHR yet!

Thank the heavens for the both of you! The memories that interview brings back are astonishing. That’s the best read I’ve had in a good long while in any medium!

In fairness, the bar thing in Pueblo was ages ago, well before I settled down and became more, uhm, refined. Well, that’s not entirely true. I did paint my face for SB 33 vs ATL (much to the consternation of my stodgy friends)!

: )

I can’t express enough how great Zappa is for doing such magnificent history work at MHR, and how awed I’ve been at firstfan’s astonishing arrival as “Hey, I’m just an old feller and I don’t get these computer thingies” to being one of the most loved and admired members on the site. Firstfan always has a kind word, a good memory, or a funny zinger to share, and the site radiates even brighter for his participation.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 17, 2008 5:22 AM MDT   0 recs

LOL!

”...one of the BEST articles…”

I was typing so fast to express my gratittude that I failed to get it all out!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 17, 2008 5:24 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Thank you sir!

Considering the source, I view this as quite a complement.

Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson

by firstfan on May 17, 2008 11:44 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

You are much to kind. To me anyway.

But thank you. I would have loved to have seen the Captain Broncomaniac in action. You’ll be painting your face again after the 2009 season. Super Bowl Bound baby!

by Zappa on May 17, 2008 12:10 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

My pledge to my friend Zappa.

When (not if) we win the SB, I will come out of retirement, don my Captain Broncomaniac outfit, and post the picture for all to see at MHR. My stodgy missus won’t like it one bit, but I’ve still got the spirit when the team calls. (I may even put up the wine and break out a few beers).

Under oath,
Hoosierteacher.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 17, 2008 9:39 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

It's on record.

Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson

by firstfan on May 17, 2008 11:40 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Remind me when the times comes.

I’ll be too happy to care if I said it or not. I’ll be up to it!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 18, 2008 3:15 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

awesome

I love getting other prespectives on the greatest team in the NFL! I love it that beating the Raiders on Jan 1,1978 led to the first super bowl (They had not beaten Oak in denver since 1962). This was great read. It just brings back so many memories on how the Broncos and Denver fed off each other.
This I say is your best interview to date!!

by broncfanstuckinsd on May 17, 2008 11:48 AM MDT   0 recs

Great Stuff

I really enjoyed the interview. So much of it I remember well. My signature is the quote from Alex Karras, even though I was too young at the time to remember it. I knew that quote from history and still cherish it as my favorite team was the first to prove to the Country that the AFL belonged. I became a fan in 69, and have been with them ever since.

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit"

Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on May 18, 2008 4:24 AM MDT   0 recs

I assumed

you were a “seasoned” fan like Trinidad Jack and I. But age makes no difference, that sig is the best!

Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson

by firstfan on May 18, 2008 6:56 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Great interview............

As one of the relative youngsters in the crowd, I really appreciate both you Zappa and Firstfan for doing this, one thing that has been fun about this site is learning about the history of the Broncos. I first became a football fan in 1980 I think it was, the first game I saw was the 49ers and Cincinatti in the Super Bowl at the age of 8. I beleive that was the 80 or 81 Super Bowl. That being said I wasn’t too familiar with the Broncos before that time. It is great to find a site that frequently talks about the history of our team as well as what is going on now. While watching that Super Bowl, I asked my Dad if there were any teams from Colorado. He told me about the Broncos and I’ve been hooked ever since. I played middle linebacker and safety in high school and called myself Mecklenburg and Atwater, depending in which position I was playing at the time. Your interview not only taught me some history about the Broncos but brought back priceless memories from my own youth. Thank a million guys.

by Broncofan on May 18, 2008 10:37 PM MDT   0 recs

ahh, the first game I ever saw was a MNF game between the

Chargers and Dolphins. It was a shootout, maybe 1983-84? I was born in 78 so I was pretty young.

by Zappa on May 19, 2008 9:10 AM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Finally, I can log on again.

Loved this stuff, first fan! Love the hug. One of those great coming of age stories that translates to every generation. “Older woman”, “22 or 23”, love it!

Like some of the others said, it really brings back some memories. Like Jim Turner, “old hightops”. Another forgotten Bronco. I think he was the last player in the NFL to wear those old black high top shoes. I’m sure he was one of the last who kicked the ball the old fashioned way, not soccer style. Here’s a guy who came from a winning organization; who played with guys like Joe Nomath. Even though he was “just a kicker” he brought a winning attitude with him and I think it helped the team.

But I remember that play. It was one of my favorites. It looked like it was going to turn into a disaster, just another ill-advised Bronco risk that would come back to bite us. As firstfan said, all the receivers were covered very well. But “old high tops” came chugging out into the flat. He may have been the slowest player in the NFL and he was already old. (A term I have sinced learned is relative.) Anyway, I don’t know for sure but this may have been the first time in NFL history that the pass went to the kicker. If not it was certainly rare enough that it shocked the hell out of everybody. Turner was wide open, caught the ball and took off at, what can only be liberally called a print. It seemed like the play took forever but the surprise was so complete the raiders never had a chance. I think they (the raiders) must have left 50 to 60 jocks on the field that day.

It was so special.

Its hard to argue with your choice of favorite Bronco. If anybody exemplifies the hard working blue collar guy, it has to be him. He willed himself to greatness and he’s the kind of guy fans can really identify with. Having already seen Floyd Little play, I was old enough to realize just how lucky the Broncos were to get Elway, and I relished and appreciated every moment of his career. You younger guys should do the same with Cutler and Champ Bailey. Those two are extraordinary talents who will be taled about for the ages.

Favorite games is very hard. I guess I love the last minute comebacks best, the drive, the Houston game, etc. I know Elway said those games tore him up but I loved them.

Man isn’t it great being a Bronco fan!

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on May 19, 2008 10:16 AM MDT   1 recs

Well stated my friend, and thank you!

Hey send me an email.

Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of our own mind. - Emerson

by firstfan on May 19, 2008 5:47 PM MDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey firstfan.

I apologize for not repsonding quicker but I didn’t notice this post until today, 5/29. I’m not really techno-savy so how do I send you an e-mail?

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on May 29, 2008 2:06 PM MDT   0 recs

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