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Denver Broncos Quarterback Camp Day 2 - News and Notes

Day 2 of Quarterback Camp didn't have the storylines of Day 1 , but that doesn't mean there's nothing to report.  Let's take a look around to see what was seen and heard --

A big disappointment in 2007 was the defense. Jarvis Moss was disappointed as well. Not being on the field has left the Broncos' First Round pick in 2007 with something to prove --

I feel it, I've got a little chip on my shoulder. Being out, I'm ready to go play football. I'd be ready if it started tomorrow.

Star-divide

Of course, there have been alot of additions to the defense, something Moss sees as a benefit -
That's what makes the team good, the competition among each other, when training camp hits, competition will definitely pick up. That's exactly what we need, guys fighting for position and getting better every single day.

The Head Coach surely sees a difference in Moss --

His conditioning is looking better, for him to come back his second year should be a positive. Usually those linemen learn a lot that first year; there's a lot to learn. I'd be surprised if he doesn't come back and play well.

As for other defensive players, John Lynch knows they have to get better --

You always look forward to getting back out on the field, particularly after a year that turns out how you really didn't want it to finish. There's a lot of pride in this organization and it just simply isn't good enough what's happened the last couple of years, and we've got to find a way to fight our way out of it. That's the start of this.

After being critical of the roster moves early in the Rebuilding Season, Champ Bailey has had a change of heart --

There's always going to be questions because you don't know what's going on a lot of times. But down the road, things start explaining themselves. A few years ago, we drafted three cornerbacks, and it showed up later why. You've just got to be patient.

Champ also had more to say about the silent treatment the team is receiving nationally --

One thing I can really say is, nobody's really excited about the Broncos this year outside of this locker room. But we are, we know what type of talent we have, and one thing you have to do is stop listening to the outside world anyway and keep our confidence up because anything's possible. When you've got a great quarterback, you can do a lot of things. And I think we're on the verge of having a great one.
It's good to see Champ, the closest thing we have to a vocal defensive leader, on and off the field, go to bat for his teammates and the organization. There are alot of younger players on this team and they are going to take their lead from guys like Champ and John Lynch.

Elvis Dumervil is also excited to get started in 2008 --

We made our moves and it wasn't big names but it was great for us, even if it's not the big, crazy names, I think the pieces of the puzzle we're putting together fit. And we got a lot of big names the year before and it didn't really work out that well. Now you're bringing in guys who fit the system and it's not a bunch of individual guys. They want to work and do what it takes to take another step.

We all know there is alot riding on just how good Niko Koutouvides is. For his part, Niko is nearly as concerned. In fact, many people feel he'd have been a starter by now if not playing behind Pro Bowler Lofa Tatupu --

We all kind of felt that way, me and Lofa, he's my best friend up there. We still talk all the time. He felt for me. Even the coach, even my linebacker coach, the D-coordinator, they all knew. What are you gonna do? You've got two Pro Bowlers, Julian (Peterson) and Lofa, and then you got another good player, Leroy Hill. So there's only so much you can do. I'm not the type of player which, if I'm a backup, I'm just going to go pout and not play hard. Part of my game was special teams. So I said, 'Hey, I'm going to take it and run with it.' I learned as much as I could there.

Shanny knows that there are question marks, but he likes what he saw on film --

I've watched him play for four years, I've watched him play in preseason. I think he brings a lot to the table. He's a guy that was either first or second or third in the National Football League in (special teams) tackles. A guy who can tackle in the open field and plays the 'Mike' linebacker position. I like what we evaluated in the preseason. It gives us a lot of confidence that he'll come in and play well.

Of course, that doesn't mean the Coach won't promote competition --

There's still a lot of competition there, it doesn't mean that he'll keep that position because you never know through preseason. We've got a lot of guys that have some ability and have played quite a bit in the National Football League. So time will tell.

Alot has been made about the frequent shifting of positions by D.J. Williams. A return to the weakside has Williams excited to play football again, without the pressures involved in the Middle --

It's only been two days so you can't tell a whole lot, but I enjoy the 'Will' position. It's not a mentally tough position. I think it's a position for an athletic linebacker and so far it's going pretty well.

With news of NFL Owners opting out of the CBA, a couple Broncos players offered up their thoughts on the situation --

John Lynch --

I think life is good for all sides, the game is at an all-time popularity high. The fans are enjoying it. My feeling always is, why mess with success? There are always things like this that go on in terms of negotiations. Hopefully, they come to an agreement.

Domonique Foxworth --

It’s an exciting prospect for us. The owners have said that it’s something they’re open to, so we’ll see what happens, I think everyone would agree the NFL is the best and most profitable league, so starting to make wholesale changes and making us like other sports would be a mistake. I think that, at least in the recent history of the league, players and owners have been able to come to an understanding that works for everybody.

Woody Paige has his own unique view of the Broncos after two practices.

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I'm not that worried

Turds like Bill W justify ranking us in the lower 3rd because of our “numerous holes”. If tubby wasn’t so busy choking down hot dogs and doughnuts he’d see that we really don’t have many holes on this team (outside of K/P).

I haven’t felt this good about our team’s depth in a long time. Although we didn’t make that huge splash with big money FA’s, I still don’t think we could have possibly done any better this off season.

But I will reserve judgement until I see if we lose 65% of our roster to injury before the season even begins just like last year.

Bill Williamson is a gelatinous tub of goo. Al Davis eats his own poop.

by kwool79 on May 21, 2008 10:37 AM MDT reply actions  

Man this is great. There is definiately a quiet confidence in Dove Valley.

I cannot wait for opening day. I’m telling you Guru, this team is not in year two of a three year rebuilding. They are reliving 1996 and we are going to storm the league. Next year we will be poised with the maturity and experience necessary to win a championship…but we could get lucky and win one this year!! I just have to give my donkey-like, YEEHAW!

by Tim Lynch on May 21, 2008 10:47 AM MDT reply actions  

I remember

after the 2000 season when the defense was last or close to last in the NFL against the run the Broncos changed D coordinators and the defense was much better. The “EXPERTS” thought the d would continue to suffer. It did not. The Broncos could have had a good season if Griese did not regress. But from 2001-2007 our defense was continually in the top 15 overall and top 10 against the run. Bates system last year was a bad fit. After the bye it improved. I think it will be top 15 this as they have the right players for the system they run.

by broncfanstuckinsd on May 21, 2008 11:37 AM MDT reply actions  

And it starts again

Tony Scheffler out 4 weeks due to residual soreness in his left foot. We haven’t even started contact drills and they’re already dropping like flies.

So, who hurt now? Travis Henry, Tony Scheffler, ..........tomorrow?

I truly hope we don’t incur the volume of injuries we did last year.

Bill Williamson is a gelatinous tub of goo. Al Davis eats his own poop.

by kwool79 on May 21, 2008 2:21 PM MDT reply actions  

I think this is normal during the first few weeks of workouts

Lots of stiffness and things like that. I thought Sheffler played last season after this foot was broken. In any case, look at any other team when they start their mini camps…lots of flies drop as they get used to going full speed again after a couple of months off.

by Tim Lynch on May 21, 2008 2:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

I appreciate the consoling words Zappa

Do you think this broken foot was a result of him adding 30 lbs to his frame befroe last year ?

Bill Williamson is a gelatinous tub of goo. Al Davis eats his own poop.

by kwool79 on May 21, 2008 2:59 PM MDT reply actions  

It hink it was a result of some sort of illegal drug use to add that 30 pounds of

muscle. His bones were brittle because of it. I also think he stopped using last year and his body is still recovering. I know those are some major allegations, but I am just talking on a hunch/guess…this belief is not based on any factual evidence nor has Sheffler shown any signs of being a doper. I am probably 100% wrong, but I find it hard to believe a guy can add 30 pounds of muscle in just a few months without some genetically engineered help. I’ve been trying to add pounds for years…I still weight a paltry 160-170.

To me, bulking up takes a few years of concerted effort and workout and diet. Not 3 months and walla Hulk Hogan beef. TD took two years to go from his rookie weight of 205 or whatever to the 220-225 weight during the two Super Bowl runs…

I don’t know, I guess that is why I look at him with a wary eye…something just didn’t feel right when he showed up at camp a muscle bound beast. Hopefully it was just a one time thing that he felt he needed to do become a great tight end…hopefully it works out and he never feels the need to get “juiced”.

by Tim Lynch on May 21, 2008 3:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

You think Scheff pulled a "Merriman"?

One thing that really pissed me off about 2006 is that Sauerbrun got the same suspension that Merriman received (4 games). Todd had ephedera in his system (dietary supplement) while Merriman had roids (gives super-human strength).

How did Sauerbrun get the same suspension? I mean he wasn’t taking anything that gave him super human abilities. But somehow ephedra is just as bad as roids.

There should be a sliding scale of suspension severity that is contingent on what type of substance is in a players body.

Bill Williamson is a gelatinous tub of goo. Al Davis eats his own poop.

by kwool79 on May 21, 2008 3:34 PM MDT reply actions  

He can join Kircus

I’m sure Dave can get Todd a job as a sandwich artist at Subway.

Bill Williamson is a gelatinous tub of goo. Al Davis eats his own poop.

by kwool79 on May 21, 2008 4:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Hurry up season, I'm pumped!

110 more days ‘til MNF against the Faiders!!!

by Bronco Billy on May 21, 2008 4:54 PM MDT reply actions  

I want to see the video

See the video of Denver scoring touchdowns and shutting up the lunatic fans. Hey, while your’e there, try and catch a fader fanatic drunk and stupid over dissapointment when he falls down the stairs and breaks his head. Now that would be bonus footage and quite entertaining!

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit"

Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on May 21, 2008 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't be too difficult to find idiot fans in the black hole

I can’t wait to pass those videos along to some local raider fans in my area…

TD in the HOF!

by DesertBroncoFan on May 27, 2008 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Classic!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
MHR's Bronco History

by Tim Lynch on May 27, 2008 6:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

relax its only May

Now if he has these problems in August and after that then I become skeptical. But Sheff has been working out all off season first down South with Marshall and Cutler and since then in Denver. I would not get overly concerned yet. Thats just my 2 cents though

by broncfanstuckinsd on May 21, 2008 6:30 PM MDT reply actions  

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