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Denver Broncos Quarterback Camp Day 5 - News and Notes

I hope you all had a great Holiday weekend.  I know I did and I once again thank those of you that kept the site rolling along.  The Broncos also enjoyed the weekend before getting back to it yesterday.  Let's take a look at was was seen and heard on Day 5.

Travis Henry has been officially put on notice. The Broncos reached a tentative agreement with Free Agent RB Michael Pittman, which should become official today after the 32 year-old passes a physical. You can read more about it HERE and HERE. We'll get to Henry in one second. As for Pittman, his agent, Drew Rosenhaus for those keeping score at home, thinks he can get some things done for the Broncos -

There's a lot of ways Michael can help the Broncos, he can play fullback, halfback, he can catch the ball out of the backfield, return punts and return kicks. He's a versatile back.

Pittman, whose arms dwarf most mens' thighs in terms of pure girth, feels healthy and ready to go --

I know I can play. I've got a lot of games left in me, I may be 32, but I feel more like I'm in my 20s. I plan on making the team, I don't plan on taking over anything. I'm just here to help.

In a time where there are "sexier" names available(Shaun Alexander), Pittman is the perfect signing for the Broncos, the exact type of player the Broncos have targeted this "Reloading Season", a low-risk, high-reward guy who is hungry, and most important, extremely flexible on the football field. Pittman can run, catch and return kicks and is the type of tough runner that will give the Broncos a boost in the red-zone and in short yardage situations. Solid acquisition.

What does the addition of Pittman mean for Travis Henry? Initially, nothing. Pittman isn't an every down back, and the Broncos would still like to see a return on their investment. It does put Henry on notice, however, that if he doesn't get on the field, and soon, that his likelihood of making the team decreases each day Selvin Young impresses and Henry is in the hot tub. After surmising Henry would be back for this week's work, Shanny gave a bit more realisitc report yesterday -

He can't go yet. Those hamstrings, you never know how long it's going to take, so I would say that chances are he'll be ready for the June camp. He will not be ready this week.

Translation: Be on the field next week, or else.

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Elsewhere, WR Darrell Jackson is definitely ready to get 2008 going. One of the newest Broncos, Jackson is looking forward to going out and having fun on the football field again -

It just feels good anytime I come out, run around and catch a couple balls. There’s excitement with a new team, new philosophy, high expectations, great coach, great chemistry at wide receiver and catching balls from an awesome quarterback.

OK, schmoozing won't get more balls thrown your way, but every little bit helps!

Jackson, who has had injury problems in the past, including a painful toe injury in 2005 that forced him to miss 10 games, says he is healthy heading into camp -

The toe is feeling pretty good. I didn’t have any problems with it last year, and this is just another year to give it a chance to rest and heal. It’s all good to go.

In what must seem like a broken record, Jackson seems to have gotten the same memo that all the new guys did when it comes to their role with the 2008 Broncos --

I want to be that guy anywhere I go, but I’m just trying to do my part. I’m just coming out here doing like I do, going 100 percent, catching my balls and my routes. All those starting things, I don’t make the final decisions. I know how those things go sometimes. I just come out and try to play to the best of my ability and leave that up to the coaching side.

This is a team that definitely has the character and the players. We should be able to compete and get to our goal, which is the Super Bowl. Things happen. I’ll just let nature take its course. Then if I’m starting or I’m backing up or doing whatever, I’m happy with that. I just come to play and compete. I just want to do my part as a teammate and play to the best of my ability.

The offensive line is likely to be a hot-bed of competition all the way to Oakland on September 8th. Early on, it appears Chris Kuper has the early nod at Right Tackle -

We’ve got (Chris) Kuper, Ryan Harris behind him, and Erik (Pears) is playing left tackle now. We’ve got some competition. We start with a depth chart – it doesn’t mean we’re going to finish there – but that’s where we start.

As for the rookie, Shanny likes what he has seen from "Twinkle Toes" but knows there is a long way to go for Ryan Clady --

There’s a learning curve, but any time you’ve got a guy that has those type of feet you feel pretty good about his chances. But he’s got to do it on game day, and like we talked about, that learning curve. It’s going to take some time, but he’s given some great effort and he’s got a great upside.

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The Broncos' starting offensive line as it blocks today: Ryan Clady, left tackle; Ben Hamilton, left guard; Tom Nalen, center; Montrae Holland, right guard; and Kuper, right tackle.

You can't blame a guy for being confident, can you? Selvin Young has set lofty goals for his 2008 season -- 2000 yards --

The key to that to me is staying healthy. Everything else, I believe in wholeheartedly. It's not like I said something to try to get a laugh or to smile or to get people to pay attention to me. It's something I believe is in me.

With 15 pounds of added bulk to the right spots, Young's body does look a little like the last Broncos to go over the 2000 yard mark, Terrell Davis, who rushed for, you guessed it, 2008 yards.

As for Young, he is trying to take full advantage of the injury to Travis Henry --

It's more opportunity to get the game plan learned like the back of my hand. It gives me an advantage in getting ahead on offense and also gives me an advantage to jump ahead on my goals.

Of course, getting to 2000 yards takes a little bit more than just staying healthy. A little luck doesn't hurt. A solid offensive line is key. Oh, and simply being on the field is pretty important too. If Selvin Young is going to approach 1000 yards, let alone 2000, he needs to prove to Shanny he is more than a 10-15 carry back --

I'd like for him to prove that to me, and he could very well do it. There's a big difference from your first year to your second year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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OK, schmoozing won’t get more balls thrown your way, but every little bit helps!

Hey, I’d be happy to leave the Niners organization for Denver! :)

by phantom818 on May 28, 2008 7:01 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm trying to find the diary I wrote last year about Selvin Young being the

second coming of TD…IF he put on some weight. But apparently I said that in a comment, because I could not find it anywhere among my 95 posts. lol I know I said something to the effect of, Travis Henry being a short term solution and Selvin Young having the same body type as TD and if he put on some weight would become a great running back for us. TD had injuries in college, much like Young did. Durability came with the added weight…we shall see!

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by Zappa on May 28, 2008 8:19 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm pretty stoked.........

to hear that Young has added weight, I was thoroughly impressed by him last year and expect bigger things from him this year if he can stay healthy. Even if he is not the primary back, he will be a bigger asset to the team if he can become more of a between the tackles guy along with his speed. We will be able to use him in situations we weren’t able to last year. GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!

The player who thinks he can and the player who knows he can are two different players, which one are you???

by Broncofan on May 28, 2008 8:42 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ask any of the MHR guys who high I am on Travis Henry(pun intended)....

I’ve been wanted to get rid of him since last season. HT and I have been, ah, “discussing” the issue for months. lol

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Zappa on May 28, 2008 9:08 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ill Back you

I know you have at least said it to me! I like the idea too

Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 28, 2008 9:58 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anything that gets the job done!

Be it Henry or Young… or even Torain (it could happen). I, too, am stoked about the upcoming season. I think we are stacked at RB and that can only be a great thing. I like Young, especially since the report that he’s bulked up some. However, if Henry can stay healthy, then I think the job will be his to lose. Like him, or not, he’s a legitimate threat when he’s at full strength. A bull with the ball.

I am happy with the signing of Pittman, particularly with how little the Broncos signed him for. I think he can be a good veteran leader for many of the young’ns we have at that position. Plus, he gives us a legitimate 3rd down threat, even if he is an old man by NFL standards.

by Davus.X on May 28, 2008 10:02 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Out of 1766 comments

and counting – you made three while I was writing this post! – I can see how it might be difficult to find. Fortunately, there’s a search function. Perhaps it’s this. It wasn’t last year but it fits most of your criteria. Or perhaps this, which doesn’t fit your criteria quite as well but did appear last year and mentions Henry. Perhaps those two posts ran together in your mind. You’ve referred to him a lot, but those are the only two posts that seemed to fit most of your criteria.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 28, 2008 11:15 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome!

I knew there was a search function for posts, but apparently I can search comments as well. Thanks man! And I am sure those two comments are part of it, but no doubt I have been pounding that same drum for a long time. lmao Thanks man!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Zappa on May 28, 2008 11:28 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I found several other comments as well...

See here, here, and here. lol

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Zappa on May 28, 2008 11:37 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Question Isn't...

whether or not Selvin Young can add mass to be “the same size as TD”. The question is whether or not this guy’s body can take the beating period, at any size or weight. Over the past 6 years, yes 6 because he received a medical redshirt and played 5 years at Texas, Young has carried the ball a TOTAL of 505 times, in 64 games. Do the math. That is 7.89 carries a game. Last year, Young carried the ball 140 times in 15 games. The average? 9.3 carries a game. Even in his best year at Texas, 2006, Young carries the ball 137 times in 12 games, good for an 11.41 carry-per-game average. Coincidentally, perhaps, that was also his worst season in regards to yards per carry.

That siad, I like Selvin Young, always have. Right now, however, there is NOTHING to suggest he’ll be anything more than what Shanny said he was. Whether that statement was being made to motivate Selvin is anyone’s guess. There is no doubt that it was a statement based on past history.

-TSG

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on May 28, 2008 11:53 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In my defense, I only mentioned the similarities between the two.

Young has a chance to be like TD, if he can take the beating and run with the kind of authority he has shown he could at times last year. I also only mentioned that IF he bulked up, he might just be able to do that. I agree, only time will tell…but I am choosing to be optimistic and say he will be our starter at the beginning of the season. ;) I’ve been promoting Selvin Young since October of last year…we’ll see if he is the second coming of TD or the second coming of Mike Bell. lol

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Zappa on May 28, 2008 12:04 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am in agreement...

I was high on Young out of Texas, and unless you want me to link to every game thread from last year you’ll have to trust me about my singing his praises, starting with the Pre-Season game against Cleveland.

That said, I am very, very careful when comparing guys to any of the greats. I plan on getting into this in greater detail tonight, but if we want a guy like Terrell Davis to get his HOF due we should be careful suggesting an undrafted FA that has rushed for a grand total of 2442 yards in 64 games(38 ypg) can be anything close to TD. To be fair, I am NOT targeting you. I love your optimism. My goal has always been to bring a bit of blind optimism to the table, along with some truth. Right now the truth, as we know it, is Selvin Young has yet to prove he is anything more than a 3rd down, change of pace back.

Does he have the talent? Sure. Wisely, the Broncos are adding as much depth as possible. Before I go comparing Young to Davis, Portis, or Gerald Wilhite and Sammy Winder for that matter, I want to see him stay on the field for 4 quarters, running hard, and have the ability to do it week in/week out.

-TSG

www.milehighreport.com

by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on May 28, 2008 12:24 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll do the right thing and draft Selvin in the first round in all of my fantasy

leagues come that time. lol no wait, lmfao. Optimism on paper is just that Guru…lol Oh and I do not condone anyone to draft Selvin Young in the first round or even in the last round…shop smart, shop S-smart

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Zappa on May 28, 2008 1:41 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't dare trying to sift through your comments...but yes,

I recall you being very excited about Selvin…except I also recall you having a cautious optimism. Meaning exactly what you just said above is about what you were saying last year.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Zappa on May 28, 2008 1:43 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Guru...

would you please be able to contact me via email?

There is nothing you cannot be, there is nothing you cannot do. There is nothing you cannot have.

by sirsam on May 28, 2008 12:10 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Young

While I am a huge Young fan, he has shown an inability to stay healthy for an entire season since he was in high school. I also do not think Selvin in going to be a Mike Bell, though. I think the answer could be Torian. I do like him and he could be closer to a Anderson/TD type of Bronco back. Plus I do like denver signing Pittman over Alexander. Travis Henry better wake up and smell the coffee. His days are starting to dwindle

by broncfanstuckinsd on May 28, 2008 12:08 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

trash talk

i’m not crazy about basically a nobody saying he’e getting 2,000 yards in 1 season. that’s not confidence, it is stupidity and bravado. he should be happy with 1,000 in limited carries. i love young as a change of pace guy, but he is not the man-henry is. henry, like walker, is extremely productive on the field. he took a big pay cut, and seems to want to set things right. but i’m not going to be pissed at an injured player too much. that is just dumb. henry is good for 12 games or so, always has been. we were aware of that when we signed him. if young gets hurt again, do you guys want to cut him, too ? if not, what is the difference? the 9 children or the weed fiasco? what then? think about it, because i don’t know why henry sucks because he pulled a hammy. give him another year before you pull the plug on this guy

by davecheffy on May 28, 2008 5:19 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't want to cut him. I want him to be the change of pace back...to a new and improved Selvin

Young. Or Torain. I see Shanny building for the future…Travis Henry was only a time buying technique. If Henry had not taken a pay cut, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. If Shanny doesn’t value him as much as he did when he gave him the big contract, then the writing must be on the wall somewhere for Travis…we’re just talking about that. ;)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Zappa on May 28, 2008 5:31 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont think the Broncos needs his distractions again

Look, I am willing to give the guy a chance. But come on. He has ALREADY pulled a hammy. He got hurt last year, then had the whole problem with the NFL office, which I am glad he won. But the Broncos need a #1 RB on the field to get 300+ carries this year. If its SY, Torian, or Henry. NOW is the time to start getting ready for the season. Plus it seems to me that he is not showing too much loyalty to Shananhan who went to bat for him last year and got fined for speaking out. I just to see the RB position to return to its past glory. It makes me think that losing Anderson was a huge mistake

by broncfanstuckinsd on May 28, 2008 5:55 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really think

that Henry is trying TOO HARD to man up for Shanny. He pushed himeslf with offseason workouts to eliminate his durability problems and comes out of it with a pulled hammy, the WORST kind of injury to get: if he waits for it to heal, the team will pass him by, if he rushes it, it will get worse before it gets better.

More than anything, what Henry needed to do was mature, and knowing thyself is the first step. he needs to get this injury figured out, and deal with it PERFECTLY. He needs to come back soon, but not too soon. If he gets frustrated and comes back before its healed enough, he’ll ruin his chances. More than ever he needs to keep his head on straight, his eyes forward, and his legs churning towards the goal…

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on May 29, 2008 7:43 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2,000 yards of distraction

losing anderson WAS a huge mistake, as was trevor pryce. anderson was relatively cheap, too, but we didn’t want to pay him. i don’t know what you mean by the loyalty comment. how was he disloyal, by being injured? distractions? the nfl screwed up, he handled it like a pro, and beat the nfl in court!-something al davis could never do. i’m impressed with how he handled everything, and it just confirms my belief he is the right guy. shanny stood beside him on this because he was right, nothing more.

also, do you honestly think selvin young or a rookie with his own medical issues can carry the rock 300 times this season? really? why, because young put on 15 lbs? does anyone remember young got hurt last year from overuse? now, you’re going to double his carries? come on people, that’s a lot to ask, and shanny has already answered that one. torain has a better shot at the feature back position, but it will take a while. shanny is frustrated at this position and several others, and his lack of patience with skill position players, to me, is a shortcoming.

listen, when you see a good thing, you want to see more of a good thing. selvin getting 300 carries would be too much of a good thing. he’d never even make it there in 1 piece. torain may become just what we need, but not early this season. shanny would use torain before young if henry went down for an extended period, because of his between- the-tackles ability. we have other options, depending on who we keep on the roster. but our feature back and best option is still dad-of-9. i can’t wait to see a full season(ok, 12 games) out of this guy. he is going to impress people.

by davecheffy on May 28, 2008 8:48 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lets see, Henry is not the end all be all. I did not like the pick up lst year. Sure it sure started great, BUT how did it end? He is a (technically) a two time loser on the drug program in the NFL. he is lucky he won his appeal last year. If SY and his xtra 15 pounds can get that 300 carries so be it. But dont come and say SY or Torina cant get 300 carries because they have past injury issues. I may agree it could be iffy for SY but nobody knows that Torian can not accomplish that. Hell Anderson carried the ball 297 times as a rookie so do not tell me thats impossible. It is great you are a Henry fan, I am not. If he proves to be healthy and not a distraction to this team more power to him. Will not change the fact on my thoughts on him. I am first and foremost a Bronco fan first, then for the players. If I think a certain player needs to go or so I will say that. That being said we will see what the future holds. I am hoping its Torian or SY.

by broncfanstuckinsd on May 29, 2008 12:27 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Henry...

I’ve never liked Henry. Bad character. I say let him go ASAP!

by ThorpeBroncosfan on May 28, 2008 11:39 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is willing

to prove he is above the past, I say give him his chance

Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 29, 2008 12:49 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My answer to the whole Henry thing.

First, I wrote a post a while back on why I support Henry 100% (I can’t find it, but I’d appreciate the link it someone else can). He didn’t fail a drug test, he had a false positive. He is supporting his kids. He led the league for us in ‘07 before his injury. He took a pay cut when others wouldn’t (Walker anyone?). And as a one cut power back, he is perfect for our system.

He got injured. Fine. So did Young and Hall. I think he deserves at least as much of a chance as they do. Let’s let camp and the preseason decide what will happen. Henry is a guy who’s turned his life around. He felt he owed Coach a lot when Mike went to bat for him, and he paid him back with a salary cut. There’s no reason to be down on the guy. If he has too many injury issues then he either won’t make the team or he’ll get passed by during the season. As long as he’s in orange and blue and keeping his nose clean I’ve got his back.

That’s just my opinion.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on May 29, 2008 1:28 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hoosierteacher's article

can be read here.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on May 29, 2008 8:07 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well put.

Well put HT. I still say we cut him.

by ThorpeBroncosfan on May 29, 2008 10:35 PM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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