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Broncos Quarterback Camp Day 7 - Darrent Williams Teen Center Opens

Today will mark the final day of the Broncos Quarterback Camp.  There won't be much time off, however, as the team gets right back to work next week.  AS a reminder, here are the important dates remaining for the Broncos this "Re-Loading Season" --

Team camp: June 2-6; June 9-13 (tentative).

* Minicamp: July 7-8.

* Training camp: Players report July 24.

Much of the news yesterday happened off the field as the Darrent Williams Teen Center was officially opened during a ceremony that was attended by Broncos Owner Pat Bowlen, Head Coach Mike Shanahan, Rosalind Williams, Darrent's mother and 30-40 Broncos players.

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It was a moving day, complete with 27 Orange and Blue colored balloons being released into the bright-blue Denver sky and speeches from dignitaries and Broncos staff alike. I could grab all the quotes, talk about all that was said, but feel it would do the whole thing a disservice. There are two quotes I feel deserve mention, one from Darrent's mother Rosalind. The other from Shanny.

First, Rosalind Williams, who admitted the true emotional healing won't begin until there is an arrest made in her son's murder -

It's very important we have closure to this. However, we're not going to dwell on that. I do believe the people are in custody, not for this crime but for a crime. We'll get it done. I'm really working closely with the Denver Police Department. I feel like we will get it done.

Then, Mike Shanahan, who has been affected by this tragedy on a very personal level. At the end of his speech, he looked right at Rosalind Williams and said the following -

One thing I would like to promise you. I know when you look at the Broncos, you're looking at your son Darrent, and we're going to make you proud this year. I promise you.

There is no telling how much the deaths of Williams and Dameion Nash had on the Broncos in 2007. Perhaps we were expecting too much when we thought they would use it as motivation with the wounds so fresh. Now, with time to heal, time to remember, and time to reflect, the Broncos, and their Head Coach, seem ready to make good on those promises.

Star-divide

Ironically, the Rocky Mountain News broke a story today claiming they have a letter that implicates Willie D. Clark, a gang-banger who is already in jail on drug and parole violation charges and has been a "person of interest" in the D-Will case, as the trigger man in the fatal shooting.

According to the letter, the shooting was the result of the gang-members feeling disrespected. Apparently a big F-U was shouted out by someone in the group hanging with the Broncos players, and that, my friends, is disrepect --

The source who provided the letter to the Rocky said Clark told him that the men were talking trash - the athletes and their friends bragging that they had the money to rent out a bar, the gang members giving the players a hard time about losing to the lowly San Francisco 49ers.

At some point, someone in the crowd that included Broncos players said "f--- you" to the gang members, according to the account the source said he heard from Clark.

"And then you know of course, the gang is not going to be disrespected by no means and that's a disrespect," the source said.

This case is wrong on so many levels that I don't know where to start. As it stands, the "source" is afraid for his life, claiming the protection being offered by the state is unsatisfactory -
At their most recent meeting Tuesday afternoon, the district attorney's office agreed to pay to relocate the source and to cover one month's rent in a new location, the source said.

But on Thursday, he said he was unwilling to cooperate or testify at trial because he believes the protection being offered is inadequate given the risk he is taking.

He said he needs more money to relocate family and to have time to find a job, and said more witnesses might come forward if the state did more for them.

"It's not enough," he said. "My family's life is worth more than that. My life is worth more."

The source said he hopes he will receive a portion of the reward offered by the Broncos, or that the organization will help him financially because the state's offer is not enough.

Prior to approaching the Rocky, he said, he contacted the head of security for the team and attempted to reach Williams' mother and Walker. Those attempts were unsuccessful.

The source said that in addition to the reward he had several reasons for coming forward.

As a believer in God, he thinks what happened to Williams was wrong and "uncalled for." He also said he wants to make up for his own wrong acts.

"I've done my share of wrong in my life," he said, adding that he never killed anyone. "In changing my life I weighed this decision and it is the appropriate thing to do."

He said that sharing the information could get him killed, but he is prepared for the consequences.

It has been my belief that the DPD feels they have the guys responsible for D-Will's murder behind bars. This letter affirms that to me. What will be interesting to see is what happens once the Feds are done with Clark. A slow, painful demise in a dark hole would suffice.

For the first time in awhile, John Lynch spoke out about the defense, and what he thinks hi role on a unit that is loaded with fresh faces, especially at the Safety position -

My mind-set is I'm going to be first string. That's the only way I can look at things. I've always been of the mentality that you don't think negative thoughts.

As for the competition, with the Broncos having signed free agents Marquand Manuel and Marlon McCree --

There's competition. All I wanted was an assurance that I'd be given every opportunity to earn a job as an every-down player. Whether that happens or not, I don't know. They brought in a lot of guys. I welcome it.

That does raise the question of what would happen should Lynch not be the starter -

It would be really hard," he said. "To be honest with you, I don't know how much I'd be worth to a roster in today's world. I've always thought this 'Well, he's a great mentor to the younger players' stuff is overrated. I take that responsibility seriously because there were guys who mentored me. But if you're not playing and you're not productive, that's a bunch of hogwash.

Would Lynch retire instead of playing a bit role? Something to keep our eyes on to be sure.

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I am telling you now,

Lynch will be the starter. He will retire after this season.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Tim Lynch on May 30, 2008 8:28 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Shanahan's Words are strong

” One thing I would like to promise you. I know when you look at the Broncos, you’re looking at your son Darrent, and we’re going to make you proud this year. I promise you.”

This isn’t something that Shanahan would say just to comfort a grieving Mother. This is a strong message.

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit"

Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on May 30, 2008 8:37 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Exactly...

Exactly what I was thinking…

-TSG

www.milehighreport.com

by John Bena on May 30, 2008 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

My apologies for being insensitive, but....

wasn’t last season dedicated to Williams and Nash? It may have been a distraction for the team. Hopefully they’re in a different state of grief now and thier play and new faces in 2008 will wash away the stench of 2007.

fader nation is a conquered nation

by mdierk on May 30, 2008 8:50 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think...

2008 should be “dedicated” to DW and DN, but I think we as fans were wrong to think they could turn the tragedies around into something positive that quickly. This year, it could be a factor….

-TSG

www.milehighreport.com

by John Bena on May 30, 2008 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was in bereavement ministry several years ago...

and the thing I learned was people take grief in stages and some handle it better than others. The only game the played last year that I saw some true emotion and motivation was against Pittsburgh.

I will say this, I do feel good, but not overconfident about this team in 2008. The season can’t come fast enough.

fader nation is a conquered nation

by mdierk on May 30, 2008 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even that Pittsburgh game they only played about 3 quarters with emotion.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Tim Lynch on May 30, 2008 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup....

you can only keep up with emotion before you need talent to finish the job.

fader nation is a conquered nation

by mdierk on May 30, 2008 10:24 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shanahan's Comments

Obviously, I don’t have any kind of mystical insight into what Shanahan really meant by his words…but I’ll take a stab anyway. Denver entered last season with the deaths of Nash and Williams still fresh…and for a variety of reasons, they stunk up the joint. And they did so with the 27/29 memorial sticker on their helmets. Not exactly a fitting tribute for two fallen teammates. If Shanahan took the death of Williams as hard as some reports claim, I can imagine the poor performance of the team gnawing at him all offseason. There is almost an implicit statement of “Last year, we didn’t anyone proud. This year…we will.”

Thinking some more, there are several ways to interpret what will make Rosalind (or anyone else) proud. Winning is one aspect, and I expect to see improvement there. But the character of the team has also been a hot topic; I don’t think anyone is proud when a Bronco is arrested or gives up on the field. With the release of several malcontents and the emphasis on drafting high-character players, I believe Shanahan is right on track to making everyone proud of the Denver Broncos again.

~Uffdah

by Disco_Stu on May 30, 2008 1:36 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I choose to believe your view. :)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Tim Lynch on May 30, 2008 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you hit the nail on the head Stu

We have done a lot this year to make people raise their heads and be proud to root for the Broncos. D-Will holds a special place in my heart (see profile), and the type of person as well as player he was is something that was lacking on teh team last year. D-Will had a pride about being a Bronco, and a personal commitment to the community. These things are big on Shanny’s radar this year and will bring us back to where we belong…at the top!

Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!

Davis to the Hall!

by Jon Tollerud on May 30, 2008 2:24 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

I think losing two players was an emotion toll they probably could not overcome plus a defensive scheme that failed and QB starting his first full season and the injuries and character issues. It was probably doomed from the start. But in 2008 they can erase the bitter pill of 2007. Plus smack around that douche phyllis

by broncfanstuckinsd on May 30, 2008 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't buy it . . .

Last year’s defensive failure was the result of putting players out of position, lack of talent at other positions, and a defensive scheme not commensurate with the available personnel. It was not the grief from losing D-Will and Damien, although that grief was heavy.

This year’s success will be based on a good defensive scheme, players in their natural positions, and the infusion of talent, not a rallying point around lost loved ones.

Let’s hope the perps are brought to justice and there finally is closure to the case, regarding D-Will. Let’s hope the Broncos win the Division and go deep into the playoffs. But let’s keep the two separate.

At least, they are separate in my mind. I just cannot connect the two.

by AZDynamics on May 30, 2008 11:17 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I would say it was personnel because even Champ Bailey struggled under

such a different scheme. Players were in position, but they lacked the experience to stay in position and were confused about where they were supposed to be at times. That is what we were referring to.

This year it will all be about chemistry, the sooner they start gellin’ the sooner we make the playoffs. ;)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Tim Lynch on May 30, 2008 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're on the same page

In essence, that is what I was talking about. D.J. is a Will, not a Mike. Webster is a Mike, not a Sam.
Foxworth is a CB, not a safety. So they have players in positions relatively foreign to them in a scheme that was incongruous to the available personnel.

On top of that, they dispense with Warren. I wasn’t a huge fan of his, but he was the best run-stuffer at the time. So Warren goes, and Burton stays.

Anyway, they have the guys back in their natural positions now, and have done a terrific job of fillng holes, IMO. And they apparently are going back to an attacking defense.

It’s going to be exciting this year, IMHO.

by AZDynamics on May 30, 2008 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did I do?

I don’t know what “actions” is, so I hit it, and it disappeared. I was trying to edit my post, but I guess that feature isn’t available. Sorry for being such a n00b.

Anyway, I was mixing past tense with present tense and confusing the heck out of things.

Hopefully, my next post will be better . . .

by AZDynamics on May 30, 2008 12:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've done that too.

To me hitting actions doesn’t do anything. I know this isn’t the proper forum, but does anyone know what “actions” is supposed to do?

"On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions, who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait, and waiting--died!" - George W. Cecil

by Bronco Billy on May 30, 2008 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you click on actions

the two options that pop up in its place are Flag and Rec(ommend), which are the actions you can take. The latter is a way for you to indicate to others that this is a comment worthy of their interest, the first is a way to alert Guru and maybe his lieutenants that a poster has perhaps done something naughty. I flagged something the other day that looked like it might be spam. Since to the best of my knowledge flags are not visible to the general poster no animals were harmed by my “action”. At least that’s my understanding, unless and until Someone Who Knows gives us a more authoritative account.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 30, 2008 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct sir

Please refer to the very first “MHR Tech Tips” for an explanation of “actions”. If you click “action” for your own comments, nothing happens. Recommending a comment doesn’t seem to do a whole lot, and flagging a comment draws attention to any comment that is innapropriate.

I want to again encourage members to use the recommend button at the bottom of a fanpost that is enjoyable or informative. This promotes a post to a special category where it is held longer for folks to read. As a group, we haven’t been doing this recently.

Great job Spock!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on May 31, 2008 6:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, Jim Bates kind of screwed things up.

We would still have Warren if Bates hadnt dumped him…

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Tim Lynch on May 30, 2008 12:41 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's amazing....

that such a basic concept of staying in position can really destroy an entire defense. You can have all the individual talent in the world, but if you’re not where you’re supposed to be on the field, you really hurt the entire team.

"On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions, who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait, and waiting--died!" - George W. Cecil

by Bronco Billy on May 30, 2008 5:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't part of talent

being able to learn where you’re supposed to be and being there? There are no dumb physical freaks making it in the NFL. The difference between the elite player and the ordinary is more in the head than in the body. They’re all hellaciously gifted athletes, but they’re not all equally gifted between the ears. That’s not the whole of the Broncos’ difficulties with the Bates system, but it’s one of the reasons I’ve stated on a number of occasions that we weren’t as talented as we thought we were. That’s one of the major problems we fixed in the off-season.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 30, 2008 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who quit on the team last season? Are they still here...

First of all, Zappa, Warren didn’t neccessarily give the Broncos any reason to keep him around.
He was in the doghouse from the get-go last year and was no surprise he ended up on the Raiders. He played great in his contract year and then dogged it.

I heard a Boss Bailey interview last week and one of the pieces he talked about was watching tape from last year and that there were a handful of guys who just weren’t playing hard and “you could tell they didn’t want to be here”. I’ve heard that a few times in assorted interviews. Aside from Sam Adams, who do you think he was talking about (defensively)?

Discuss? Thoughts? Talk amongst yourselves?...

by super7 on May 30, 2008 12:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey now, I am no fan of Warren...I too felt he played well for the money and that's it.

As for those who just weren’t playing hard…try half the team. I might get slaughtered for this, but I saw spurts where Champ Bailey looked like he wasn’t trying very hard. Ian Gold was another. Half of the 22 or DT we signed. Our defense was just lack luster…probably all of the guys went through the motions at some point in the season. The 41-3 and 44-7 debacles for sure, but other games as well. They just gave up.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Tim Lynch on May 30, 2008 1:12 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I won't slaughter you for saying your peace.

In fact, I agree with you. The one person I don’t necessarily agree with is Champ. He makes everything look easier than it should be, so I would be hard pressed to say he didn’t play hard. As a CB, he ended up with over 80 tackles.

Trying to stay positive (and it’s a shorter list), I would say that Lynch, Bailey, Engelberger, Dumervil, DJ, and Hamza played with emotion for most of the season. It’s hard enough to lose, it’s really heartbreaking when you team doesn’t even seem like they’re trying.

"On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions, who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait, and waiting--died!" - George W. Cecil

by Bronco Billy on May 30, 2008 5:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll agree with your thoughts on Bailey too.

Bailey played his heart out. He was going full bore after his own assignment, and often switching direction and going all out after runners and still catching them near scrimmage. Many NFL CBs don’t make much of a play for RBs at all. In fact, even Bly was going after RBs on his side.

I think the CBs played hard last year. It was the running game where we got gashed. When most folks are critical of the CBs, it seems to be two plays where we got lit up against GB.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on May 31, 2008 6:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

This string is scattered like a shotgun blast

I believe that’s just how the Broncos felt last year and why they struggled so much. They were simply overwhelmed:

1. The deaths of D Will and Nash cannot be dismissed lightly. Obviously, many if not all the players were affected negatively to various degrees, and it will take more than one or two seasons to put it behind them. Time will heal the wounds, but for some it may take especially long.
2. How many times last year did you hear Shannahan say he didn’t do his job preparing the team properly after they laid another stinker? We all know how the deaths of D Will and Nash have personally shaken Shannahan as well. I’m sure the entire coaching staff was affected just as bad as the players.
3. A new and chaotic defensive scheme that kept the defense of balance all year.
4. First year of starting for their new QB – not to mention his undiagnosed and untreated diabetes- kept the offense off balance all year.
5. The addition of a few bad apples that, consciously or unconsciously, took advantage of the general chaos and malaise of the team and dragged everything and everyone down even further.

Fortunately, I think Shannahan has realized the cumulative effect of these and numerous other issues from last year and has taken the necessary steps to right-the-ship: jettisoning the malcontents, adjusting philosophy and leadership in the personel dept, getting back to offensive and defensive schemes that have been successful for Denver in the past, and allowing the Broncos to continue to deal with and heal from the tragic losses of life last year.

Bottom line is, it’s impossible to lay blame on last year’s poor performance on any one or two issues. This team was assaulted from numerous fronts last year, and in hindsight, they didn’t stand a chance. This year, under the renewed leadership of Shannahan, they have a chance to show their true character and metal – and I’m looking forward to the results!

by BornOrange on May 30, 2008 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree 100%!

As much as the team wanted to have a big year for the fallen brothers, there were just too many obstacles that hit them at once. Yes, some of those obstacles they put on themselves, like the new defensive scheme. For the most part, things like injuries and Cutler’s undiagnosed diabetes were out of the team’s hand. It was just bad timing. Putting everything in perspective, they could have gone a lot worse than 7-9.

Maybe Shanny feels this way too and that’s why he made it a point to reaffirm that the Broncos would make DWill’s mom proud this year?

Great post, BornOrange!

"On the Plains of Hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions, who, at the Dawn of Victory, sat down to wait, and waiting--died!" - George W. Cecil

by Bronco Billy on May 30, 2008 5:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well . . .

A Gerard Warren taking plays off was better than anyone else the Broncos had, playing full speed, except Thomas. I didn’t like Warren a whole lot . . . he had let me down after I made a fool of myself on a football message board, saying he was headed for stardom . . . but he was all they had at the time, let’s face it. Bad, bad timing, IMO.

by AZDynamics on May 30, 2008 1:07 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I never liked Warren...Big Money was his nickname right?

Although, last season I wished we had him at times…but he is a fader now, thats all that matters. Screw him. ;)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Tim Lynch on May 30, 2008 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll cosign that . . .

insert thumbs up smilie here

by AZDynamics on May 30, 2008 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's true...

But I’ll take youth and a shot that soomeone else steps up over a veteran taking plays off who’s obviously lost his hunger for the game. Warren wasn’t the reason Denver went 7-9. With him, Denver wouldn’t have done any better. Might as well save the money and let hungry players play. With Warren in there, Thomas doesn’t play as much and we don’t get to see what our DT free agents are made of. I think because Thomas was able to get a lot of PT last year, the Broncos are confident that he can play at an even higher level this year.

by super7 on May 30, 2008 1:13 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You may be right, but . . .

Why would Thomas play less, were Warren in there? There are two DT slots, and who would play at the other besides Thomas? I’m not taking issue with you regarding Warren. It is my opinion that the run defense would have been better with him in there, but that is only my opinion. That Thomas was better than anybody else is not opinion; he was. He wouldn’t have played any less.

by AZDynamics on May 30, 2008 2:03 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thomas played less as it was because of the 20 DT other guys we were trying to figure out how

to use.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Tim Lynch on May 30, 2008 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding Warren and run defense

once we began to go away from the Bates scheme he would have been our best runstopper, as he was prior to Bates. But having gotten rid of him when it turned out he couldn’t play two-gap, it was too late. To oversimplify, we jettisoned average or better than average one-gappers in favor of inferior two-gappers, so when we backed away from Bates we were left with mediocrity and youth. Losing Warren especially hurt us last year but won’t necessarily hurt us going forward. D-Rob plays with more consistent effort and I think Thomas will make a large jump in his second year. I agree that Thomas would have played alongside Warren last year if they’d both been here.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on May 30, 2008 10:19 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

You all make good points

I’m hoping that a stable roster and a solid defensive philosophy will give Thomas a chance to reach the next level. He’s a fine young player that may end up our best pick of that draft. The more I’ve looked over film and information, the more pleased I am with the Carlton Powell pick. That was a vastly thin draft, if you’ll pardon the image, for our probable primary need position. We mined it as well as anyone, I suspect, and I look to the later season to see Powell’s growth.

I use primary need advisedley, since we also filled the other need so well. Our former left tackle was unusually forthcoming in admittting that he “stunk”, as he put it, during the 2007 season. While I appreciate Lepsis’ contributions over the years, some rookie mistakes by a player with a zone blocking background and tremendous natural gifts will be a great improvement over what we had.

I’ve wondered just exactly who Champ and Lynch were referring to, but no specific name are forthcoming. We might find out when we see the final roster – any holdovers who aren’t looked to to step up with the rest of the team won’t be there.

Lastly, what a spate of pulled hammies! That does concern me – in an attempt to ‘get them in football shape’, it’s possible that stretching and hydration aren’t being emphasized. There are always some, but this seems excessive. Too many reps too soon can also cause it. I always hope the players will keep in true shape over the winter (see Lynch, John) but clearly, it hasn’t happened.

O'Brien's Law states that Murphy was an optimist.

by Emmett Smith on May 30, 2008 6:31 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

With a pro coaching staff...

...and pro level trainers, I think that lack of hydration and stretching are not the likely culprits (though it is certainly possible). Most likely (in my opinion), the guys haven’t prepped themselves as much as they should coming into training. That’s not an indictment of any individual. Very few players are going full bore in the reloading season, and I would think that even top notch vets get caught off guard.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on May 31, 2008 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

LYNCH

Once again MARK MY WORDS, Lynch is gointg to have a break out year.
Zappa I definatley agree with you on that.

by ThorpeBroncosfan on May 30, 2008 11:20 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ha! My last name is Lynch, so I thought you were talking about me at first...

I might be a little biased about Lynch because of his name…but he is pretty good too. ;)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
Win the Division. WIN THE DIVISION!

by Tim Lynch on May 31, 2008 12:12 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yoga

Thorpe and Zappa, I agree completely! Lynch (the guy wearing #47 on the roster, not the guy on MHR) is going to have an outstanding year. The lesser Lynch will do OK too. The reason #47 will do so well is because of yoga! If the entire team did yoga every day like John we would not have this number of hammies.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Raplh Waldo Emerson

by firstfan on Jun 1, 2008 1:39 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

safety-first

it appears the lynch-bashing phase at mhr is over(he can’t cover anybody!), and i’m glad to see it. he will be instrumental to our secondary, and our defense as a whole. there’s certain leaders that you just need to have on the field, and he is one of them. new england is full of these guys(seau, harrison, bruschi, vrabel) . he may not be out there on 3rd-20(after a sack by doom), but he will definitely make his presence known in a game. he is a warrior on a team that needs them right now. if he gets beat on a long ball, then our pass rush is still too lacking, in my opinion. i can live with his coverage liability until we draft/sign his replacement. i say we stick him on phyllis the way we did against brady in the 2005 playoffs. intimidation, people, we need to get back to an attacking defense. speed up front, strong corners-our strength, and a lack of size predicate this. if i see one more 3rd down conversion with a 3-man rush, zone defense, i am going to hit the ceiling! ok, i veered way off topic

by davecheffy on May 31, 2008 2:18 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Lynch

I think you’ve described Lynch accurately. He is great at what he does (hard hits, run coverage, reading plays, leadership). He is still good at coverage, since his intelligence gives him an extra step, but isn’t really the first guy you want on the field for a spread pass play. But covering pass plays isn’t so much his job, nor the way he is really used.

Styg’s series on Lynch is the most definitive work on Lynch I think anybody will find (or on any player for that matter).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

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