Why He'll Make the Team #1: Wesley Woodyard
As my first attempt at some useful copy here on MHR, I thought I would start at the bottom of the barrel, try to counter-act some the negativity that comes with the months of scrutiny between combine and season, and try to make an argument for why some of the guys who are falling off of people's depth charts will end up on the squad. I am calling the series:
Why He'll Make the Team
We are going to start first with one of my favorite UFA pickups of the year, Wesley Woodyard. Admittedly I, as a Lexington, KY native, hold a place in my heart for UK Wildcats, but this guy has a whole lot going for him. He also took a lot of knocks in the last few months. We will look at those, and then I'll try to refute them.
The Criticisms
Most scouting profiles on Woodyard complain about 3 things: his "tweener" size, lack of direction changing speed and concerns about his strength. In addition his body control and hip fluidity have been questioned. Let's deal with his size first.
The critique goes that Woodyard doesn't have the size (6'1" and a combine weight of 219) to play linebacker in the NFL. He was able to put on additional weight last season, but had a hard time keeping it on as his frame is lean, and his legs thin. Nick over at his Thin Air blog on MVN noted this in seeing Woodyard at the Senior Bowl - the other team started sending big TE's and FB's at him, and he had a hard time shedding their blocks close to the line. This puts him right on the size line between safety and linebacker, without ideal size for either.
As for his ability to change directions - the word on the street is that his significant straight forward speed doesn't translate into an ability to move laterally at the drop of a hat - as would be needed to succeed as a safety in the NFL. ESPN's combine analysis suggests as much. He has trouble staying with a play, even when he recognizes it, if following lateral motion.
The last major knock on Woodyard is that he didn't lift at the combine. Although he had put on weight before the combine, he strained his shoulder and couldn't lift. Because of that, the general perception (combined with his struggles up on the line) is that he doesn't possess the strength to perform as a linebacker in the NFL.
The Response
Wesley Woodyard may not possess the prototypical size to continue playing as a linebacker in the NFL. People don't recognize, however, that he started out as a safety at Kentucky as a freshman, and only began playing linebacker that year because the coaches liked his "football mentality," despite his lack of size. He was the first ever Wildcat freshman to serve as captain in a game and went on to total 100+ tackles each of his final three seasons. He is generally lauded for his ability to track the play and react to it, even if not the smoothest guy on the field. He may not make it as an LB, but he certainly has a shot at a safety position.
If it were true that he didn't have the size for his position, one would expect that frequent tackling in the tough SEC would lead to a lot of injuries, but Woodyard only missed a single game in his career. And that's going after loads like Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Jacob Hester, Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams and DeShawn Wynn (among many others). Size and durability - not so much an issue.
On top of that, for all the talk about his inability to move, Woodyard notched six fumble recoveries, returning four for touchdowns, and 11 tackles for a loss his senior season. Tack on a couple of career INTs for good measure. Nick at Thin Air's observations at the Senior Bowl back this up:
The first thing that strikes you is field presence. The 49ers’ coaches used Woodyard a lot in the open field in a "read and react" type placement, and it was clear that the reason is because he can quickly zero in onto where the ball is going. For starters, he was able to start in the middle of the field yet still hunt down running backs when it was clear they were getting the ball.
Woodyard may not look great doing it - heck he may even have stiff hips. But he seems to have the in game speed to make plays on the edges. So much for that critique.
In addition, Woodyard threw down a tremendous showing at the combine. He put up a 4.51 in the 40 yard dash - the 2nd highest for an LB - and top ten finishes for his position in the broad jump, and the 20 and 40 yard shuttles. His 2nd best for LB's 60 yard shuttle (11.46) was up there with the cornerbacks and safeties. Terrence Wheatley only delivered an 11.58. In short, even though you would like to see more speed in the 3-cone drill, this guy clearly has some straight ahead speed, and can switch directions fairly quickly
Given these other combine results, it seems silly to get concerned about his bench press strength, especially given that Woodyard put on about 20 pounds after starting college. He knows the gym. If you watch this clip of him you will also see that he knows how to unload on an opponent. Strength? Check!
Finally, on top of all this - Woodyard is one heck of a human being. On top of being named to the SEC Academic Honor Roll, All-SEC first team and captaining his Wildcat squad, Woodyard was a member of the Christian Fellowship of Athletes and a mentor to a local school while in college. Many coaches and observers cite his love of the game, his high motor even on special teams and his locker room leadership. He was powering up draft boards, but still ended up without a team at the conclusion, which is when the Broncos wisely gave him a ring.
The Prospects
Wesley Woodyard has a lot going for him as a football player. If he proves to be coachable enough to improve his technique and compensate for his shortcomings and lack of size he could be a dynamic defensive playmaker for the Broncos. In the meantime, expect him to leave his mark on the special teams.
A lot of comparisons have been made between him and our very own Marlon McCree - who himself has managed to put together a nice little career in the NFL. If you look at the numbers, McCree in his combine visit was quite a bit slower than Woodyard in the 40, while they share nearly identical height and weight. Similarly, his dimensions, and his hard hitting style, are a bit reminiscent of John Lynch. Not bad company to be in, and learn from.
With his heart, drive, enthusiasm and skill I could see Woodyard catching Shanny's eye in practice or a preseason game (a la TD!) and upending the safety, or even LB, depth chart (depends a lot on scheme - I suppose) This year could be spent mostly on the bench/practice squad learning the intricacies of the safety position from John Lynch and Marlon McCree. With that kind of start to his career, I could see him developing into a solid strong safety, possibly even to use in some sort of 33-stack formation (thanks for the term HT) to match up against the elite TE's of the AFC West. Although some scouts seem to think he will stick as a linebacker, it is hard to see a place for him there. He is probably too slow for the Will, and too small for Mike or Sam. Even so - don't count Wesley Woodyard out.
Phew - some first fan post. Now tear it apart folks! Why is Wesley *not* going to make the squad? Do you think he has a better shot at safety or linebacker? Who does he bump if he makes the team?
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I think if this guy does make the team it'll be on the practice squad.
He would be an interesting proposition at the Safety position.
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by Tim Lynch on May 31, 2008 8:59 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree
with Zappa. At best Woodyard probably ends up on the practice squad, although in researching this post I read (somehwere!?) that his special teams play as a freshman at Kentucky was off the hook, and part of why they let the skinny safety become an OLB. So I think that is maybe his point o f leverage to get on this squad.
He is definitely a high character guy who could handle a couple of years development. I can’t believe that MCree and Manual are long term solutions in there, but I can see a hard hitting compact Woodyard teaming well with longer, leaner Hamza in our safety ranks.
by jonahsilas on May 31, 2008 12:29 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd LOVE to see the guy make this team
He plays with a lot of drive and energy and I love the vids on him. However, with all the LB depth and safety depth we discussed (Barrett was a guy we at MHR in recent off-season depth posts debated as a guy who might have to duke it out with Manuel to make the roster – unless the Broncos keep five safeties). Six safeties would be a bit of a stretch. Most people are saying practice squad here, but who knows…maybe he’ll impress in practice? I hope he can call himself a Bronco in some way, shape, or form next year.
by phantom818 on May 31, 2008 10:08 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice Post
With all the depth we seem to have now at both positions, although some have proven little and some have proven nothing, that he will be on the practice squad. I really hope that they find some way to keep him around. Maybe they will find a way to keep him on the 53 man roster and use him solely for special teams. We could certainly use more guys out there with his passion and dedication not to mention his focus, on ST. Hopefully he will surprise Shanahan and do just that. But I gotta say I love that we have people out there of his caliber just trying to make the roster. It goes to show just how deep our team is getting. Can’t wait to see them in action. GO BRONCOS!!!!!!
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by Best In The West on May 31, 2008 10:19 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
didn't think of that
but probably the biggest value of this Why He’ll Make the Team idea is uncovering some of the actual depth we have around this year.
Zappa’s latest Quest article really opened my eyes to that. Parker, Colbert, Jackson, Royal (who’s already comin’ on) and Martinez as compared to Kircus, Martinez, Morgan and Terrell… Same thing goes for the defense.
Camp is going to be nuts.
by jonahsilas on May 31, 2008 12:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a little note.
I agree with what the previous posters wrote and don’t have anything to add.
Just wanted to say that I like your “Why We’ll Make The Team” idea. There are so many players we never get to know. I honestly knew nothing about Woodyard and you do make some good arguments. It seems we’re really focusing on character this year, so I liked your comments on his achievements off the field.
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by Bronco Billy on May 31, 2008 11:41 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
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by Tim Lynch on May 31, 2008 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is nice to get to know
Some of the guys you will be hearing about in camp, seeing in preseason. Then when the “unknown rookie” makes a stellar play you sit their smiling – “I knew it all along…”
I think Woodyard is a high character guy, and will bring an infective attitude and love of the game to camp and the locker room with him. In my most naive moments, I even believe that helps his chances to be kept around. The risk is lower, the potential reward more complete.
I’ll make sure to dig up that stuff on other UFA’s when I detail their chances.
by jonahsilas on May 31, 2008 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know much about him
But I would right now lean towards safety. Most likely he could be a real assest on special teams. Lord knows the Broncos need to improve on coverage teams big time. But I agree that at the worst he would end up on the practice squad. But I would like to really see what he can do on the field before I say he cant make it at either Saf or LB.
by broncfanstuckinsd on May 31, 2008 11:56 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the introduction
Shanny has always picked up guys that were too short, too slow, too small ect.
If Wesley Woodyard does make the team I will remember I heard it here first.
Real nice post.
by HBBeough on May 31, 2008 12:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Great job Jonah
I too like him better as a SAF than as a LB, but his size isn’t too much of a concern for me. I think he could play a role at WILL, where zone and blitz is more important than matching up against big TEs. At SAF his size wouldn’t be so much of an issue, as it is easier to bring down a big in receiving than in running the ball.
The biggest knock on this kid is our depth at WILL and at SAF. Except for our current depth, I like the kid more than most folks might. He would certainly be a boost on STs right away. I just think depth might snub him.
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by Steve Nichols on May 31, 2008 1:00 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Glad to see
someone with more scouting skills than I also thinks the size thing is not that big a deal. Especially the way this kid lay wood…
Depth may just do him in, admittedly. The thing he has going for him, I think, is his youth. There really is only Louis Green competing as a young LB backup – Winborn and Webster are both experienced, but not so young. Similarly the backup safeties have some years on them. I can see the coaching staff feeling that, no matter where they find a place for it – including the practice squad – young, driven depth is a good thing.
And I actually just looked back at it – Woodyard’s 4.51 40 is faster than DJ ran coming out of college, so he may be suited for the Will. Alas, that is also a position of serious depth – no way can he beat out Green and ST ace Winborn…
by jonahsilas on May 31, 2008 1:33 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
What do you think of him landing on the Practice Squan HT?
I think we might be able to sneak him aboard without any other teams taking notice…teach him the fundamentals of playing at the Safety position and ease him into the lineup starting next year!
If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08
by Tim Lynch on May 31, 2008 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are just too many names...
...and it’s so early that I wouldn’ dare guess. I have no idea. I tend to think he doesn’t make it, but I think he has a reasonable shot. (I think it’s too close to call that I didn’t vote up above).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on May 31, 2008 7:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why He'll Make the Team
is a great idea, and you presented it very well. Lots to think about – I didn’t know that much about him either. Thanks, jonahsilas.
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by Emmett Smith on May 31, 2008 3:18 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Just for consideration
Mike Singletary was 6’0” and 230. He did OK.
O'Brien's Law states that Murphy was an optimist.
by Emmett Smith on May 31, 2008 4:48 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
yes he did,
but the OL and RB are much larger than they were 20 years ago. I see Woodyard on the PS this year and maybe next depending on how the Broncos want to develop him. If it is LB, he will have to bulk up, if S, then gain speed to cover people.
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by mdierk on Jun 1, 2008 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Post
I love the idea and your post was well written and researched. As far as Woodyard making the team, I have no idea. We have A LOT of players right now. I would be thrilled to see him earn a spot because he sounds like a true “Football Player” who is somewhat of a tweener. I’ve said all along that we need more players to play Special Teams. Maybe that will be his niche.
by Mr. Irrelevant on May 31, 2008 7:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for this post and the series
Training camp will be great this year. I love the character aspect of most of the additions.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Raplh Waldo Emerson
by firstfan on May 31, 2008 8:00 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
No Question, mdierk
My point wasn’t that Woodyard could play Mike – I don’t think it makes sense. As I noted, Singletary was heavier then than Woodyard is now. It was more a point about heart – even then MS was undersized, but I got to watch him play, and his intelligence and ferocity were a potent combination
I like Woodyard as a project safety for the same reasons. The practice squad, if he can clear waivers, would probably be a perfect first year, since his education went sideways when he became an LB. I’m ignorant on this – how does a 4.5 40 speed translate for a safety? I’ve seen Lynch repeatedly, as the great series noted, use great intelligence to move to position. Perhaps Woodyard can begin to apply that. I hope so – seems like a charater guy.
O'Brien's Law states that Murphy was an optimist.
by Emmett Smith on Jun 1, 2008 2:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
Singletary was a totally different era. But I also see broncobear’s point – great players use their assets to overcome their shortcomings. One or two steps in the right direction as a play develops, or not biting on a fake, can be the difference between a clean tackle and a whiff. As lynch has gotten older, the more he uses his intelligence and intimidation to his advantage.
From what I’ve ready about Woodyard he has a nose for the play/the ball. Those will be the difference makers, I think. and not the size issues.
by jonahsilas on Jun 2, 2008 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is an awesome idea for a series
and I am excited to see who is up next, but first:
1. Size/durability: non-issue as far as making the team goes. But I am concerned about his long term career in the NFL. The most significant concern is his inability to keep weight on. He has tried and failed repeatedly to gain size, but hopefully he can get away from that now that he has a shot at an NFL roster. His body isn’t built for more weight, and he doesn’t need it to be successful, at WILL or SS.
2. Heart: like Spencer Larsen, I think Woodyard is the kind of guy who makes the team BECAUSE its overachieving or unexpected or all that stuff. The harder the struggle, the better he will do. You may have mentioned it in between the lines, but his football intelligence is above par. His aggressiveness is very impressive and is why I favor him at WILL, though I think SS bodes well for a longer term outlook as far as his health is concerned. But he isn’t a color-by-numbers player: he should be a WILL, and despite criticism to the contrary he CAN last at WILL.
3. He can make the team, but HOW does he make the team? Barring injuries, I think Shanny will have to look at his starters on defense (DJ, Niko, Boss) and then consider his starters on ST (Larsen, Woodyard?). His last concern in regards to LB should be his backups, which means that if we have to choose someone to cut, Webster may be the guy not making the team. He is a good backup at MIKE but he doesn’t have it between the ears to be all around depth or to be reliable on STs.
Also, and maybe HT can clarify this idea, is it possible that Woodyard could have dedicated plays in a 3-4 scheme, possibly as a weakside ILB?
Lastly, I don’t suspect practice squad for Woodyard for 2 reasons:
1. We only have 8 PS spots (possibly 9 if we snag one of the international developmental players) and those are bursting at the seams just trying to fit our backup QB, oline depth, and DB depth, all areas that have a lot of sorting out still to come. LB is a much more solidified position with fewer question marks regarding the starters.
2. Woodyard needs to be challenged to succeed. PS is a safety net that is probably detrimental to his development, and I think the Bronco’s personnell guys understand that. He will be pushed to make the 53 man roster or go home, no in between.
He can do it, and we are a better team if he does, but I don’t think our short-term success is riding on his development much, so the roster spot just might not be there for him to claim.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 3, 2008 11:38 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff as always Styg
Also, and maybe HT can clarify this idea, is it possible that Woodyard could have dedicated plays in a 3-4 scheme, possibly as a weakside ILB?
He could, but it’s hard to justify with current depth. I think DJ and Winborn look good at WILL, and Webster and Niko look good at RILB. To some extent you can mix and match those those four.
If we were running a lot of 3-4, and needed further depth, I’d say go for it. With the occassional 3-4s we’ll run, it will be harder to justify. Still. I think he has the ability to develop (given time), and if he can find a spot on STs he may have a bright future as a back-up, then starter do the road. Right now (assuming Webster moves from SAM to back-up K2) the real need is to back-up at SAM, where Larsen may have an advantage.
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by Steve Nichols on Jun 3, 2008 12:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually think
an in depth look at the options for backing up SAM should be sorted out, because Boss has a history of missing games here and there. Woodyard is too small to cover a TE, Larsen is too slow, Webster is too Webster, and Winborn is too…??? I actually think Winborn might be the best backup option at SAM, and I am not comfortable with that. I can’t find good info on Archer except to note that he was a pickup off of Indy’s STs.
I really hope we Bronco’s fans don’t lose sight of the damage that can be done if Boss doesn’t work out or gets injured. The AFC West can devestate us without a significant SAM presence.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 3, 2008 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
My lingering concern so far is depth at SAM, and I’m not sold that DT is completely fixed.
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by Steve Nichols on Jun 3, 2008 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes...
...we WILL get another dt during roster cuts/salary cap casualties. i will not rest until we do, and as always, i won’t shutup about it. we are still an injury or poor performance away from up-the-river-without-a-spatula, here.
by davecheffy on Jun 3, 2008 4:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

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