MHR's Forgotten Broncos -- Lionel Taylor

Not all Bronco's are completely forgotten, but there are times when the younger generation of fans need to remember the greats of the Bronco past. When the Denver Broncos formed in 1960 along with the AFL, they team was filled with no names and castaways. One of those men was a castaway from the Chicago Bears. Lionel Taylor went to the Bears in his rookie season after a stellar career at unknown New Mexico Highlands University. Taylor spent eight games with the Bears, mostly on the bench, logging zero pass catches and was released.


As with most NFL rejects, Lionel Taylor found himself looking for work in the AFL. He walked on to try out for the Denver Broncos and after several one handed grabs in practice he quickly worked himself into the starting line up. Not known for his blazing speed, Taylor may have had the best hands in the entire AFL. He quickly became the Broncos only super star in the early 60's, while statistically dominating the upstart league.
In Taylor's brief career, he set franchise records in receptions and yards that wouldn't be broken until the late 1990's. He also set a league record for most receptions in a six year span of 503 that would not be broken until Sterling Sharp caught 540 passes in his six seasons, the big difference between them is that Sharpe had 14 more games with which to break Lionel Taylor's mark. Taylor was also the first player ever to catch more than 100 passes in a single season.
Lionel Taylor was named to three AFL All-Star selections and was named the Bronco's MVP from 1963-65. He had four seasons with over 1,000 yards receiving, and averaged 84.7 catches from 1960 to 1965 and ended his career as the AFL's all-time leading receiver. I am of the opinion that if Lionel Taylor played for any other professional football team that he would most certainly be in the Hall of Fame today. Taylor was once quoted saying, "If you catch the ball, it only hurts half as much when you get hit." To me, that represents the epitome of what being a receiver is all about. The Hall of Fame is lesser without him and his exclusion is another great travesty the NFL as afflicted upon Broncoland.
Not that being snubbed affected Lionel any, he went on to become an excellent positions coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers during the Steel Curtain days and eventually rose to the level of Offensive Coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams. After a successful career in coaching, Lionel Taylor finally got a crack at a head coaching job in the World League for the London Monarchs in 1996 where he went on to finish his career.
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I think that perhaps Taylor's first and last two seasons in the league hurt his HOF stock in the eyes of those who get to vote. There was no other pass catcher in either league that came close to matching Lionel Taylor's consistency from 1960-65. Don't believe me? Compare those stats with the stats of some other Hall of Famers from this era:
The fact that not one of those Hall of Famers listed above ever caught more than 75 passes in a season shows that there is some bias in the selection process. Not only that, but Fred Biletnikoff only surpassed 1000 yards one time in his long career. So if stats have little to do with the selection process, then what about impact on the team? Does it matter that Lionel Taylor was the only offensive weapon on an otherwise awful football team? Does it matter that no player matched Taylor's production over the course of six seasons until the modern era? What does matter to these selection committees? I would sure like to find the answer to these questions and so many more. Lionel Taylor deserves to be in the Hall and no one can convince me otherwise.
My next post will be on a much lesser known Bronco who played just one season for the team, but made a significant impact upon the history of both AFL and NFL leagues.
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Awesome
I knew Lionel Taylor was good, but it’s great hearing about it from someone who knows more than I. Thanks!
by studbucket on
May 9, 2008 7:18 AM MDT
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Great Post Zappa!! Highly recommend.
You really get my heart rate up! Lionel Taylor was simply amazing. Like Little, he was the only offensive weapon the Broncos had at the time. Opponents double and triple teamed LT (yes, he was the ORIGINAL LT) and he still put up those numbers! Thanks for the great post.
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by firstfan on
May 9, 2008 12:12 PM MDT
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You are right! I completely failed to mention that LT
was double and even triple teamed every game because the Broncos had no serious threats anywhere else. If you threw that ball anywhere near LT in a crowded area, 9 times out of 10 he would come down with it. Which is why I got a little irate at the end about him being snubbed by the hall of fame. Jerry friggin’ Rice probably wouldn’t have caught as many balls as LT did on that football team. lol Taylors career was short because of the beatings he took during that 6 year stretch and his football age was probably double his actual age by the time he hung up those cleats. Taylor ranks behind only Little and Gradishar on my list of biggest Bronco snubs of all-time by the hall of fame.
by Zappa on
May 9, 2008 1:28 PM MDT
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This coming from a guy who was born 10 years after Taylor retired...
but alas I am a student of history as much as I am a writer of it. :)
by Zappa on
May 9, 2008 1:29 PM MDT
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I was just getting started as a Bronco fan...
...as Taylor’s career was winding down. My memory is a little vague for those years but I do remember some things. For one, I loved his first name, Lionel, just like the toy trains that were so popular back then. I wanted to be named something like Lionel instead of some boring old name like Jack. For another, he made the most amazing catches. I believe I heard the terms “circus catch” and “soft hands” for the first time in my life when the announcers were referring him. It was like he disdained using both hands. The ball would float in, he’d stick up one hand and it would either stick, like velcro or he’d knock it down to his stomach where he’d latch onto it. I remember my coach telling the team he didn’t want to see anybody trying to catch a ball like that.
I guess he wasn’t fast but I think he had game speed. More than once it seemed like the quarterback would lob the ball up toward a tangle of players, most of them defenders, then at the last moment Taylor would pop out of the mess, seperate himself by a yard or two behind the defenders, and catch the ball. Does that sound about right, firstfan?
I think Zappa is right about the reason he’s not in the h.o.f. (de-emphasis added), especially when I look at the other players on the list of contemporaries. I remember most of those guys. He was much, much better than Biletnikoff, who relied so heavily on sticky gel that he looked like a chia pet at the end of a game. He was a much better receiver than Don “I used to play the grease bowl” Maynard even without Joe Namath throwing to him. He was at least as good as Alworth, albeit a different type of receiver.
Good job Zappa, especially for not being there.
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by Trinidad Jack on
May 9, 2008 2:04 PM MDT
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Thank you
and thank you for pointing at that the Raiders are a bunch of cheaters. ;) I never knew that old Fred had cement blocks for hands. Letting a guy into the hall for using a performance enhancing substance over a guy who was just a pure pass catcher is absurd. The hall is a joke.
by Zappa on
May 9, 2008 2:37 PM MDT
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Ohffer @%$*$& sake
Biletnikoff had more stickum than 3M. He is the reason the rule against foriegn substances was used.
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by firstfan on
May 9, 2008 5:02 PM MDT
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Psssst Zappa...
“r”. C’mon man, let’s get this trend going!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on
May 9, 2008 11:50 PM MDT
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I cant help it...
It’s hard enough for me to de-emphasize the hall of fame. Proper names drive me crazy when they are no capitalized. lol I will try harder to make sure the raiders and hall of fame remain a travesty to the English language.
by Zappa on
May 10, 2008 1:57 AM MDT
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the hall of lame?
yeah I too have a problem and have to re read my stuff to ensure raiders is not capitalized.
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on
May 10, 2008 10:19 AM MDT
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Amen
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by Trinidad Jack on
May 9, 2008 2:43 PM MDT
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Another Great Bronco
Of course he did not get in, the HOF election clowns, err “sportswriters” and such have always dissed the Broncos. Little has said that over and over again. Ya ol Freddy was a stickum user. Look what happened to Hayes after stickum was banned. HAHA
But another reason Lou Saban was not a good coach he traded him and Wille Brown away. Taylor was such a great WR, any QB threw the ball to him he was gonna catch it. But another great read. Plus when he caught 100 balls in was in a 14 game season. That was when the DB’s could maul WR’s down the field. There was illegal contact and such as there is now
by broncfanstuckinsd on
May 9, 2008 3:04 PM MDT
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Another reason
Plus when he caught 100 balls in was in a 14 game season. That was when the DB’s could maul WR’s down the field. There was illegal contact and such as there is now.
Anther reason Taylor is a victim of an unfair bias in the media to snub truly great players in favor of “popular” ones. So the hall is not a place for the all-time greats…it is a place for the all-time popular to the media. I think I just realized something. The hall of fame is nothing more than a glorified popularity contest like the Pro Bowl. Except fans don’t get to vote in it. ;)
by Zappa on
May 9, 2008 3:43 PM MDT
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Look at who else has been snubbed
Gradishar, Mecklenburg (he had over 60 sacks and played every one of the front 7 positions) Dennis Smith. I could go on and on. I wonder if Rod Smith will get shafted like her brethren before him. I mean the most prolific undrafted WR in NFL HISTORY. It just gets me so fired up on all of the snubs!
by broncfanstuckinsd on
May 9, 2008 4:54 PM MDT
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Rod Smith will get in.
But I doubt he will live long enough to be alive to accept it. Same with TD. TD will get in as well, but we might all be in wheel chairs by the time that happens!
I have a good feeling that Gradishar will get in by 2012…Sharpe will be the next Bronco to get in for sure. I just have a feeling the great wrong against Gradishar will be corrected soon enough. Floyd Little, Lionel Taylor, Rod Smith, TD, Meck, Atwater, Smith, ect ect will all have to wait a long long time.
Maybe the flood gates will open after the Broncos win 3-4 more Super Bowls. I thought for sure the flood gates would have been opened when the Broncos won back to back titles.
by Zappa on
May 9, 2008 5:57 PM MDT
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We knew what you meant.
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by firstfan on
May 9, 2008 5:06 PM MDT
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Another comment.
Lionel Taylor was another one of the guys with character. You didn’t see him doing end zone celebrations or arguing with the coach or demanding to be traded to a championship caliber team. He showed up for work every day did a damn fine job.
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by firstfan on
May 9, 2008 5:09 PM MDT
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All the early Broncos were class acts.
I think they are a big part of the reason the Broncos are such a classy organization today. Those old guys set the tone for how our franchise grew from the get go. The Broncos were the polar opposites to the dirty cheaters from Oakland. ;)
by Zappa on
May 9, 2008 5:58 PM MDT
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Psssst Zappa....
“o”. I’m just sayin’.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on
May 9, 2008 11:54 PM MDT
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Hey now, I said I'd do it for raiders and hall of fame, but Oakland
is an AMERICAN city. Oakland raiders, thats the best my knit picking self can do. After all, we probably have a few Oakland A’s fans around. :P
by Zappa on
May 10, 2008 1:58 AM MDT
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Consider,
When you write about the city of Oakland, capitalize it (as I just did). But if you are refering to the team (as in “oakland lost another game and whinned that the rules were written to keep them from winning”) you’re ok. In the second instance you are substituting “oakland” for the team name “raiders”. In the first, you are refering to the great American city known for illegal motorcycle clubs and parades that feature men in leather, and that deserves capitalization (I guess).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on
May 10, 2008 9:42 AM MDT
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My friend,
and you know I consider you a good friend, I must take you to task on this. Set aside your proclivity for grammar and punctuation and get on board with this. What is really important? Is it your desire for written perfection, or the Denver Broncos? We cannot tolerate cracks in the wall of solidarity that is the MHR. For goodness sake man, we are talking about oakland!
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by firstfan on
May 10, 2008 3:39 PM MDT
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I dont even know if I can do this in my posts...comments are one thing....
I am a perfectionist…I just can’t help making sure my ducks are in order. I will attempt to de-emphasize raiders and hall of fame in all of my comments and posts. Just so you know how much of a pet peeve that is for me…I don’t care what word it is, if its a “proper”(I know the word proper and raiders are like comparing water and fire, but oh well) word….well…ok I get your point, but just know it still drives me crazy. Comments are one thing, doesn’t bother me much…but I’ll try my best to lower case the raiders in my posts as well. lol, I don’t even know why this is even a big deal for me….I hate the friggin’ raiders.
by Zappa on
May 10, 2008 2:02 AM MDT
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LOL
I like doing the lower case thing. You don’t have to of course. Part of the fun I’m having with it is playing the role of a guy trying to get everyone on board.
On the other hand, the “K2” moniker seems to be sticking!
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on
May 10, 2008 9:44 AM MDT
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So, here we have a guy...
...who was the first ever to put up a thousand yard season as a wide receiver. He caught passes from a bunch of no-name QB’s. He made miracle catches. He was the only offensive weapon the Broncos had at the time. He was often double and even triple teamed. He made these fenominal catches during a time when the rules allowed receivers to be mugged from the time the ball was snapped until the whistle blew. He did this for several seasons in a row over a remarkable ten year career. He was equal or superior to any of his contemporaries who are in the h.o.f. (de-emphasis added). And top top it all off, he was the epitome of class.
Does that about sum it up?
Do we need any more proof that the h.o.f. (de-emphasis added) is a joke?... or as the Zap said so well, an almost meaningless popularity contest?
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on
May 10, 2008 12:03 PM MDT
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Lionel Taylor for the HOF
I’ve been preaching for years that the HOF worthy Denver Broncos should be in Chronological order. Lionel Taylor is more than deserving of the HOF. It is a trajedy that he isn’t in. Personally, I am very conservative as to who should make the grade and many early Bronco greats like Goose Gonsoulin is short of the honor. Albiet he was a great player, but not deserving of the Hall like Taylor is.
Next in line is Floyd Little and Rich Jackson; These guys have much better stats than several players already inducted. Then we get to guys like Gradishar, Billie Thompson, and Louie Wright having the credentials. Many people believe that Mecklenburg deserves the Hall, but I believe he falls short. Mecklenburg never scared the hell out of anyone like when Stonewall Jackson lined up against you. Too bad they didn’t record sacks and hurries in the days of Stonewall, we would probably be surprised.
War Taylor, Little and Stonewall Jackson for the HOF.
"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit"
Alex Karras
by Denver Diehard on
May 10, 2008 8:30 PM MDT
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Denver Diehard
You are the guy (maybe gal?) I have been looing for! I am working on a collaborative thing with Zappa on Bronco History and your signature captures one of my sweetest Bronco memories. I have some questions. Please send me an email. My email is in my fan page. Your page, by the way, is excellent! I agree with you on Goose, but I will argue Karl all day. Great comment. I hope to hear from you.
By The Way (BTW) Are you samparnell? Will the real samparnell step forward? email me sam
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by firstfan on
May 10, 2008 11:03 PM MDT
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I'm with firstfan on this.
“Goose” Gonsoulin: close, but not quite; Lionel Taylor: travesty #1, should have been the first Bronco in the h.o.f. at least twenty-five years ago; Rich (I think it’s “Tombstone”) Jackson: scared the Hell out of every offensive line man, QB, and RB who ever had to face him and even some of his own players who were afraid they might accidentally stray between him and his intended prey; Floyd Little: biggest travesty ever; there is no h.o.f until he is in there; Billy Thompson, another “Forgotten Bronco” who was probably the best safety in the NFL for years; Randy Gradishar: another slight by the h.o.f. committee that makes me livid; Louis Wright: still another “Forgotten Bronco” a perrenial All-Pro CB who carried a big stick. I’m with firstfan on Karl Mecklenburg too. The guy might not have the stats but that’s only because they don’t make the kind of stats that prove what a factor he really was; always near the ball and always consistant. I really don’t recall him having a bad play though I sure he did.
And off the top of my head, I’d like the throw in a couple of other names to consider: Lyle Alzado: a guy who wasn’t even afraid to step into the ring with Muhammed Ali; Rulon Jones: he is probably a reach for the h.o.f. , but this long, lean DE is another “Forgotten Bronco” who was invaluable to that defense Gradishar played on; Bob Swenson, Jim Ryan, Tom Jackson: super fast LB’s who made those great Denver defenses work for years. Also Simon Fletcher, Dennis Smith, ...oh man, I could go on!
And one more guy I absolutely must mention, Joe Collier. A truely “Forgotten Bronco”, he was the genius who built the famous “Orange Crush” and most of the other great Bronco defenses, some times using cast off’s and wanna-be’s. He was so good, so innovative that even when head coaches came and went, he stayed. (BTW, in those years they ran a 3-4 before anybody else. Other teams hated playing Denver because almost nobody ran it. They considered it a “trick” defense, which might also explain some of the snubs.) If he and Shanahan had been contemporaries I have no doubt the Broncos could have won 10 Superbowls.
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by Trinidad Jack on
May 12, 2008 10:39 AM MDT
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In my mind the h.o.f. will not have credibility until
the following Broncos are enshrined.
Lionel Taylor
Floyd Little
Randy Gradishar
After that the h.o.f. will be refered to as the Hall of Fame. Many other great Broncos deserve to get in, but until those three are enshrined the Hall of Fame will remain the h.o.f to most of us. I made the mistake of calling the h.o.f by its proper name, that is, until it was revealed to me that there is nothing proper about the h.o.f. and therefore did not deserve the recognition I was giving them.
I’ve got something special coming up for the Broncos History section, but I don’t want to give it away just yet. All I am willing to say is that it will probably be ready to be posted shortly before training camp starts. It’s right along the kind of theme you three were discussing and hopefully we’ll put the talk about the h.o.f. behind us once and for all.
by Zappa on
May 12, 2008 1:52 PM MDT
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Thanks for the correction
Thanks Jack for pointing out my mistake. Indeed it was “Tombstone Jackson” I appologize for mistakingly calling him “Stonewall Jackson” . I didn’t even realize that I wrote Stonewall. I think I’ve read too many Civil War books.
A few months ago the NFL Channel and NFL Films had a show called ” The 10 best Pass Rushers of all time”. Deacon Jones was voted the best of all time, but ouside of the top ten, Tombstone was an Honerable mention on the show. So whats wrong with the 11th, 12th, or 15th best pass rusher of all time being enshrined? I just don’t get it.
You are right about being able to name many former Broncos that could or should be in the Hall. Collier is another fine example. I’d like to defend my reason for not agreeing about Mecklenburg, but guess I probably can’t with the Bronco faithfuls. My arguments for allowing other players would be the same justification as anybody would have with Meck. I guess it’s personal for me. He really upset me during the strike year when he gave that kid his autograph, then went and took it away when the kid was going into the Stadium with his Mother. Granted he did it to make a point, and a good point it was, but he should have never used a kid as the leverage. I never respected him after that. Its just my opinion. I would have to agree though, he was a great player on the field.
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by Denver Diehard on
May 14, 2008 9:36 AM MDT
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I agree those three...
...have to be at the top of any list. Maybe then I’ll be placated enough to call it the… you know. Many of the others, especially guys like Rich Jackson and TD are worthy of very serious consideration.
I’ve been thinking that the rules of selection should be changed. Given the serious bias of so called sports writers, control should be given to the clubs and fans. Who better to know who is truly worthy of enshrinment?
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by Trinidad Jack on
May 12, 2008 3:47 PM MDT
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I believe Tombstone and TD deserve to be in, but I still wouldn't
be placated enough without the first 3 getting in.
I must disagree about control being given to clubs and fans. We don’t need a popularity contest, we need cold hard judgement without biased rules based on team Super Bowl victories. I think clubs should have more say, but let the fans continue complaining…we should also have a forum to communicate our displeasure with the h.o.f. committees. They need to know how pissed off we are.
by Zappa on
May 12, 2008 4:11 PM MDT
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I'm not sure the best players...
...can always pass a “cold hard judgment” standard, whatever that might be. I think one thing I’ve learned in the courtroom and the classroom is that it isn’t really hard to create some objective measureables like statistics or # of facts memorized, but ultimately the real measure is always subjective. I know that can be disturbing, especially when somebody’s life is on the like, as in a courtroom situation, but I believe it is true nevertheless.
Consider Floyd Little’s case. Statistically, he was number seven on the list of career yardage. We can measure that. Perhaps that should be enough to get him into the h.o.f., perhaps not. But I submit that nobody else on that list or any list, with the possible exception of Jim Brown, meant more to his team, his community, and football. His value is not objectively measurable but it is that significant. And when you factor in that intangible, it becomes clear just how offensive the oversight is.
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by Trinidad Jack on
May 12, 2008 6:27 PM MDT
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In Floyd's case he still ranks in the top 15 out of the 39 running backs in the h.o.f ;)
And you are right on about the level of class that Floyd brought to the game and that was invaluable to todays success of the NFL. If only the “judges” understood that.
by Zappa on
May 12, 2008 8:14 PM MDT
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I didn't know that.
Let me see if I’ve got this right. If he was in the h.o.f. he would be # 15 on the list of all 39 (ne 40 if it included him) running backs in the h.o.f.? And if so is that rushing yardage? Rushing + pass receptions? + return yardage?
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by Trinidad Jack on
May 12, 2008 9:36 PM MDT
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He is in the top 15 when you count up rushing yards.
Plus when Marcus Allen retired he was 7th all-time in rushing and was a first ballot selection. Floyd Little retired 7th all-time and is still waiting. In fact, all running backs ranked 7th all-time in rushing in 1980, 1985, 1990, 1995, and 2000 have all been inducted to the hall of fame. I got this out of Floyd Little’s book, Tales from the Broncos Sidelines. ;)
by Zappa on
May 12, 2008 11:33 PM MDT
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If you add total yards from scrimmage, I think Little
retired much closer to the top. I don’t have the exact ranking, but he had to be in the Top 5. The selection committees only count Super Bowl titles and rushing yards. Oh and they also give demerits for being on the Broncos for more than 4 seasons. I think John Lynch should have retired after last season….he has screwed himself out of the hall of fame now. :) lol
by Zappa on
May 12, 2008 11:36 PM MDT
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Thanks for that information.
Now I’m even more pissed. I gotta get that book.
You might be right about Lynch, especially since he hasn’t won a title here yet. That would be a crying shame.
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by Trinidad Jack on
May 13, 2008 9:08 AM MDT
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Lynch won a Super Bowl with the Bucs though,
so that might get him in. A team that started 0-26 gets more h.o.f. respect than we do. lmao
by Zappa on
May 13, 2008 11:19 AM MDT
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Yeah, but...
...if he can pick one up here, I think he’d be automatic.
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by Trinidad Jack on
May 13, 2008 1:34 PM MDT
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lol, I think you are right...
Playing for the Broncos wiped out any good marks Lynch got for winning a Super Bowl with the Bucs. He won’t be a shoe in unless he wins another Super Bowl to offset the disadvantage he has for playing for the Broncos all these years.
I gotta stop, I am depressing myself. lol
by Zappa on
May 13, 2008 2:18 PM MDT
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dude Zappa
don’t get depressed read my signature and feel better!
Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on
May 14, 2008 10:07 AM MDT
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I am working on a tribute right now for the Ring of Fame.
It’s time us Bronco fans stop thinking or talking about the hall of fame. If you think about it, the Ring of Fame is more important in the grand scheme of things as well. ;)
by Zappa on
May 14, 2008 2:34 PM MDT
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Life is on the line
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