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Cause for Concern: OLB Boss Bailey

Let me first intorduce this piece by stating that it is not my intention bring unwaranted negativity to this site.  On the contrary, I vehemently oppose it.  But the title of this series should make it clear what my goal here is:

Cause:  \koz\ n.  Something that brings about an effect or result.

Concern: \ken-sern\ n.  An uneasy state of blended interest, uncertainty, and apprehension.

In short, there are areas of this team that concern me, and they concern me for a reason.  I wish only to make those reasons as clear as possible, while excising any inconsequential uneasiness, as the the Broncos move forward on The Quest.

 

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OLB Boss Bailey

The first thing to understand about 6th year player Boss Bailey, is just what he was supposed to bring to the football field.  When he came out of Georgia, he was a consensus number one talent.  He was considered the fastest OLB in the draft, and was one of the fastest players in the draft period.  On top of that, he was quite strong and very explosive, boasting of a 48 inch vertical, which puts him solidly into basketball territory. 

His talents in many ways mirrored our own DJ Williams, since they both shared freakish athleticism and speed.  The opinion of the scouts was unanimous:  Boss was the best weakside LB in the draft.  But unlike DJ, when draft day rolled around, team after team that needed help at WLB passed on Boss, until, at 34, the perrenially struggling Detroit Lions picked him up.  Bailey's talent, work ethic and character left only one reason as to why those teams passed on him:  his injury history at Georgia.

Even Bailey had to admit that having 2 knee surgeries in 4 years wasn't conducive to draft day fortune, but as it was he was on a team, his injury history was behind him and he went on to have a very promising rookie season with the Lions, where he recorded 88 tackles and an INT.  From the Lion's vantage point this wasn't exactly viewed as a huge rookie splash, but all agreed that his immense potential showed and that they would be able to build on that.

Star-divide

Aug 3rd.2004

Bailey went down during the Aug. 3rd training camp practice, and though initial reports were favorable, a week later his knee went under the knife to repair previously undetected cartilage damage.

"The damage was worse than anyone had realized from the tests," Lions coach Steve Mariucci said. "The doctor immediately repaired it, but Boss will be off the knee for several weeks, and then will be looking at a rehab period on top of that."

Mariucci declined to put a timetable on Bailey's return, but said the Lions hope to have him back this season.

Bailey would end up missing the entire 2004 season.  As the 2005 season kicked off, Bailey was finally back in pads after a lengthy and frustrating rehab, and his potential began to shine through again, as he played solid through 10 games, ranking 3rd on the team in tackles.  But an ankle injury in game 11 turned out to be more severe than expected, and he found himself going to IR for the second straight season in a row.  (Editor's Note:  The player that replaced him on the roster was none other than Glenn Martinez.)

2006 saw an additional similarity between Bailey and DJ:  both were moved to SAM early in their careers, despite the fact that they were not drop and cover LBs but fast, powerful hitters, and in their fourth years, both players were asked to fill in at MLB.  DJ because of the implementation of Bates' "run-contain" scheme, and Bailey because of the implementation of Marinelli's "cover-2" scheme.  The results were very similar.  Just as Denver staggered to their worst finish in years, the Lions finished as the worst in the league that year, and Bailey's frustration was palpable.  He was benched before the season was over in favor of "spare-part" Paris Lenon.

2007 saw him moved back to the SLB position where, though he was experienced at the spot, he was not nearly as effective as he had been at WLB.  He also racked up mor than his share of injuries that resulted in him not finishing games.  Through the years he left games for numerous contusions, hamstring pulls, groin strains, etc.  It is one thing to lose a player before a game or season, when you have a chance to better prepare his replacement.  It is another thing to go into a game relying on someone, only to be left forging forth alone when they are injured and have to leave.  You can understand why the Lions fans regard Boss as a "glass-jaw."

Allaying Concerns

An injury history that he just can't shake, coupled with the fact that, though his natural skillset made him an ideal WLB, he has had to "reinvent" himself as a SAM, causes me a great deal of concern.  What are our options if Boss doesn't work out at SAM?  Last year we struggled mightily in many facets, and while I don't want to dismiss Webster out of hand, he certainly showed why Denver was his second-chance team, and why he was not considered an automatic lock for ANY position this year.  Winborn, like DJ and Boss ahead of him, shows a skillset that is emminently more suitable to WLB.  While Larsen/Woodyard have tremendous strides yet ahead of them, and there is no potential like youth potential, one projects as a MLB while the other is yet another prospect ideally suited for WLB.  There is very little info to be had on Archer, who has never started as a LB in the NFL and played all three LB positions in college.

We have seen that Lynch is less than ideal as a candidate for covering a TE, though his run support would make any LBs coach proud.  Creativity from calling nickel packages could potentially alleviate some of the stress on the players, but it is clear that Boss Bailey is a major piece of the Bronco's defensive picture in 2008.

I hope we are all prepared for what the 2008 Broncos will look like, if Bailey isn't suiting up on Sundays...

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All very legit concerns

and nice job with the eval. Pretty much sums up my own issues, but I did feel it was a good move anyway. There weren’t many other good choices in free agency. IF he stays healthy, I think the chemistry he and his brother together will bring to the team will be very motivating.

While we do have adequate back-ups (and just adequeate, nothing stellar at this point), I’d say this is the weakest of the LB positions. I know Boss wanted to play on more pass plays, but he may find himself sitting out a lot in nickel and dimes, if just to save on some wear and tear.

by BornOrange on Jun 10, 2008 2:43 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the intangibles

Theres nothing that I can say about his injury history that wouldn’t pose the “if” questions. But relying on him staying healthy and playing SAM, I believe there is some reason for positive expectations; Especially against the run.

Little Brother will be playing right in front of Champ. Boss won’t be watching him, but Champ will have an eye on his brother when the ball comes to the strong side. The last thing Boss wants to do is miss a tackle and have big brother have to make the play behind him. I imagine that Champ will ride him hard if it gets habitual.

I expect Boss’ play and run coverage to be better than his play in Detroit. Good news for the Broncos. I like the intangibles.

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit"

Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on Jun 10, 2008 6:55 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know

if you wanted to mention tackling specifically for this reason or not, but one of the knocks on him coming out of Georgia was that he was a poor tackler, which blows my mind because Champ is so great. I haven’t seen any of Boss’ Georgia tape, but what I have seen of him as a lion indicates that he is at least an adequate tackler at this point, and could possibly have put the tackling issue behind him.

The last thing we need is 2007 tackling. I would shoot my TV if I saw that again.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 10, 2008 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

This article makes me nervous!

I hadn’t realized the frequency or extent of Boss’ past injuries and, honestly, I’m not very comfortable with it. However, I mantain that the system and defensive philosophy last year was the root of the defensive debacle that we witnessed last year. I don’t think last year was a particularly good indication any of the linebackers skills and I’d be okay with Webster playing another season if necessary (although I’m certainly am not hoping for that). Nevertheless, let’s hope Bailey’s injury problems are behind him.

by UnarmingMermaid on Jun 10, 2008 7:23 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point

bottom line is this is a well coached team, and if Shanahan’s effect can trickle down well enough to the coordinators, there is a good chance that the satisfying ability and depth that exists at other positions on defense can help mitigate any damage caused if Bailey is lost for any significant amount of time, especially since we will be running a consistent and applicable system.

This point and the turf considerations for Boss’ injuries are my favorite positive points so far.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 10, 2008 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another positive (in a sense)

Let’s agree that the system last year was the problem (we do). The system (with the lack of play by the DTs) made the LBs’ jobs very difficult. Only the MLB played well, and this might be because the runners are funneled to him in the contain system.

At least in the new system, the LBs shouldn’t be held back by a system that relies so heavily on the DTs. In such a case, the worst case scenario (if talking about Boss) is that we are a normal team. By this, I mean we have a couple of good LBs, and perhaps one who isn’t so good (because of injury, back-up, tackling, whatever). It is rare for all three LBs to be great. But at least we won’t have a system / position deficiency that weighs down all three LBs. We can work around one position that is average (if that becomes the case).

I think your article brings up the Achillies heel of the LB group (injury to Boss, back-up issues for that position). But unless one looks at a rare scenario (like the monster depth we have at WR and CB), such a “heel” can be found on most teams in at least a few positions. I think we’ll be ok. But you have done a great service pointing out the potential problem we might have, and I’ll bet the coaches are scheming for potential problems.

Another potential injury concern might be the OL. While we have solid depth on paper, I’m worried about if we lose Nalen and Hamilton in an injury situation. Kuper looks like he will be our RT this year, and Wiegmann would play at C. With Holland at RG, who goes to LG? Stieger (formerly k-lich)? I’m guessing Pears.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 11, 2008 3:08 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've expressed my concerns about Boss Bailey already, but I must

put my faith in Bailey having more durability on his knees on the soft grass of Mile High Stadium instead of the knee injury producing field in Detroit. I have no choice but to cross my fingers and hope for the best.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Tim Lynch on Jun 10, 2008 8:01 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point Zappa

That concrete slab they call a field in Detroit has ended many careers and could be one reason Detroit perennially has a difficult time fielding a competitive team.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson

by firstfan on Jun 10, 2008 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Their fans are not tough enough to brave the cold like Bronco fans or Packer fans...

which is why I believe they don’t deserve to have a great football team. ;)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Tim Lynch on Jun 10, 2008 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW, I think the field in Detroit is that field turf stuff – about which there are mixed but mostly positive reviews. It certainly isn’t Astroturf, the quintessential concrete slab…
I thought that Boss was a good addition to the Bronco’s LB’s – a much needed one. Hopefully, the grass surface is softer/easier on the knees, but I’d be worried about the injury history. Anybody know how Boss’s contract was structured? Incentives for staying healthy?

by cavortingEagle on Jun 11, 2008 9:48 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knowing Shanny, there probably is.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Tim Lynch on Jun 11, 2008 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll be fine...

...he has to be. ;)

There is nothing you cannot be, there is nothing you cannot do. There is nothing you cannot have.

by sirsam on Jun 10, 2008 8:08 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wonderful analysis

I mentioned our improvements in looking to next years draft/free agency last post. If Boss projects as Will, and you made that point very well, we’ve got more depth at Will than I can recall. It would be danged nice to fill Sam, tho.

Ah well, O’Brien’s law still rules…:)

O'Brien's Law states that Murphy was an optimist.

by Emmett Smith on Jun 10, 2008 9:53 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Even an orange parking cone would be an upgrade over Webster.

As far as Gold went last year, I think Sauerbrun exhibited better tackling technique. At least he seemed less afraid to “try” to make a play.

This just in…......Ian Gold signs $65 million/ ten-year deal with the Oakland Raiders.

Bill Williamson is a gelatinous tub of goo. Al Davis eats his own poop.

by kwool79 on Jun 10, 2008 11:02 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

lol!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Tim Lynch on Jun 10, 2008 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am ok with winborn as backup.

First, nice job.

From my point of view, as long as Boss doesn’t go the IR, I will be ok. If he gives of 12 solid games and two half games, that will be alright with me. Winborn can fill in a couple of games and step in a few 4th quarters.

K2 is big enough a question mark (given that he has never started at MLB) that I can’t really get too worried about the SAM backer missing a few games.

Just knock on wood and pray to whatever you believe in that he doesn’t go to the IR on game 3.

Orange County is hot. Really! Haven't you seen the weather report?

by amirebram on Jun 10, 2008 11:11 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good point

We have a pain threshold just like Boss does, so what exactly are we expecting from him? From a lot of the past conversation it seems like he has been a bit of an afterthought: we hope he is healthy and if so, the expectation seems to be an everydown LB for 16 games.

Your comment and BornOrange’s above bring to light the consideration that even if he misses time, HOW he misses that time might be the true difference in value. Like you say, IR pretty much has “bust FA move” written all over it, but a game here and there and a quarter or two of absence puts us probably in decent position if we find ourselves pushing for a WC spot as the season is closing. Losing him when it matters most, however, has been sort of a hallmark throughout his career…

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 10, 2008 10:35 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks styg

for raising our awareness of Boss’ injury history. Concern is the right word.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson

by firstfan on Jun 10, 2008 11:20 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

here is my question

Are you concerned about Nalen? Has had more leg/knee surgeries than Bailey? Maybe playing on turf has something to do with the injuries. Grass has more give. I always look at where a player played and what surface he played on before I make that leap. Football is a violent sport. But to be concerned right now is a stretch IMO. You could be right and I could be wrong

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 10, 2008 11:54 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

OLinemen have more chances to get knee injuries in my opinion...

they dont have to run full speed on every play either so their knee problems are not as big of problems as it would be for a runner. Elway had a bunch of knee surgeries too, as did many former great lineman for the Broncos. I think its just more common at that position. Schlereth and Zim had knee issues too didnt they? I just think knee issues are more problematic for runners like RB, WR, LB, and DB.

TD, Javon Walker, Boss Bailey…knee problems generally cut careers short for players who have to run full speed on every play.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Tim Lynch on Jun 10, 2008 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

OL

move laterally just as much as LB. So I believe that is a moot point. My whole thing is if injuries concern you about him, why not Nalen, or even Young? Too me not realizing where a player played most of his games is not being fair to that player. Its proven turf has caused more knee injuries on grass.

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 10, 2008 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will be covering a few more issues for "concern"

before this series runs its course. Young is on the fringe for an article, but for a somewhat unrelated reason. Nalen is an afterthought as far as being concerned.

The reason being, I am not solely concerend about Boss’ injury history, but the combination of his injury history and our lack of depth at the SAM position. Losing him to IR at any point in the season is too late to realize that he is one of the few players where we have very unsatisfactory answers on the depth chart. I fhe goes down it will actually hurt worse than losing Nalen, since Weigmann is a capable backup, ‘Steiger is an awesome prospect who could benefit from trial by fire and Hamilton makes the list as an emergency consideration. Even Kuper could play center if it came right down to it.

Another thing that talking about o-lineman should bring to light is just how tough of a guy is Boss? Sure he has great character, and one heck of an older brother, but can we count on him to stick out the tough times or to play through the pain? Detroit didn’t feel like they could, and the fans were happy to see him go. Even fans as consistently heartbroken as Lions fans couldn’t take another season of being letdown by Boss’ vast and unrealized “potential.”

There are a lot of reasons for optimism listed throughout these comments, including playing for his brother (minor point to me) and the excellent points about the playing conditions in detroit (huge factor). I second the notion and hope for the best, but I personally am prepared for life without Boss. I will be watching training camp with an eye towards SLB skills in our backups, and I will be watching as the season progresses to see how and when Boss is used and how he plays. I hope it is for nothing, and that Boss’ injury history is little more than bad luck, and not some flaw in his game.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 10, 2008 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A couple of brief thoughts

Moving Pears to cover Hamilton might work. Then we don’t have to move other starters around. (But this leaves only Harris to cover the OTs).

Boss being Champ’s brother is a minor point. On the other hand, reverse the thinking. What if one looks at the context that Champ is Boss’ brother? This might aid us in extending Champ’s contract in a couple of years (staying in Denver with his brother). The effect may go the other way more than being an incentive for Boss.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 11, 2008 3:13 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boss was the addition I was least excited about

but I was kind of fuzzy about it. Your analysis brings it sharply into focus. I didn’t realize he was better suited for the weakside, nor had I thought about how shallow we are at that position. Although I grok HT’s point about the surface here being easier on his knees, I think being with Champ is more important than being away from Detroit. Not only will he get an emotional lift from Champ, he won’t want to let big brother down. I suspect he’ll be tougher about playing with pain. I also like HT’s point that with two solid LBs and with a system and d-line production that puts less pressure on the linebackers we’ll be better able to carry a less than stellar Sam.

"In the empty spaces - lacunae, vacuums, pauses, voids, black holes - new things begin. We are born anew from the unexplored space, the badlands, the outlaw territory." - Sam Keen

by spock on Jun 12, 2008 12:36 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Record Holder

Schlereth holds the record for must surgeries in a career. The guy had somethjing like 24 operations during his playing days, most of them on his knees.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson

by firstfan on Jun 10, 2008 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff Styg!

Boss has the potential to be an injury problem, but I’m hoping that is offset by moving from artificial turf to grass. There’s just no way to know for sure. A new team may be energizing too.

I’m thinking that Boss had some good experience in the Cover Two system playing zones against receivers (both TEs as well as receivers). Though it wasn’t man coverage like he’ll use in Denver, it was still good practice. He has the speed to cover strong side sweeps (runs) and the ability to handle runs up the gut (most of which are to the right of the center). So the only real question is TE coverage in man. At worst I think he will be solid against the run, and slightly above average in pass.

I agree that our back-up situation is edgy. I really like Webster to back up K2 in the middle (he is suited for MLB), but he might hold his own at SAM. He showed improvement last year, even while playing out of his natural position. Still, I would rather he replace Beck as MLB back-up.

Larsen might be a surprise back-up at SAM. Even though he was an ILB, he should have had coverage skills in that role, and enough toughness to shed blockers for run stopping. Winborn needs to back-up at WILL, so he’s out for sure.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 10, 2008 12:54 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

IMO Larsen is a bad fit for SAM backup

The knock on Larsen is that he isn’t fast/athletic enough for a MLB. How is he going to work on the outside? He is a rookie who will be playing out of position. And he is going to spend some time as a FB too. I just can’t see how that will work.

Winborn is a natural fit for WLB, so it makes sense to list him as DJ’s backup. But DJ has been the most durable player for this team, and it would be a waste to stick Winborn in a situation that he cant contribute. I think he is our most talented backup. At least he can do a better job at SAM than Webster or Larsen.

Orange County is hot. Really! Haven't you seen the weather report?

by amirebram on Jun 10, 2008 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff as always Amir

I don’t know a lot about Larsen, so I’ll defer to you. I will say that I’m a little confused that he isn’t considered fast enough for MLB though. Usually the MLB can be a slower but powerful guy or a fast coverage kind of guy (either way), while usually the OLBs are depended on to have some speed. There are exceptions to the rule though. Given Denver’s high value on speed at LB, I’m surprised they would draft a slower LB.

Since he is being tried out at FB, perhaps they are interested in him there (which makes me then wonder why the also took Hillis, unless they want him to run. Folks are also talking about Pittman at FB, though I doubt that role quite a bit).

Durable or not, DJ has to have a back-up if he goes down, and Winborn is the perfect fit. He won’t be wasted, since he should be a terror on STs coverage.

Webster did improve as the season went on, but like I said earlier, I prefer him backing Niko. That leaves Larsen. If Larsen is indeed slower, then perhaps he would back Niko and Webster would back up Boss.

Either way, I only see five or six LBs on the roster. DJ, Niko, Boss, Winborn, and Webster look like shoe ins to me. (We may not be thrillled with Webster, but that is why he’s a back-up and not a starter. Besides, I think he would be a killer on STs just like Winborn). I’m not sure if we have a sixth or not. If we do, I would hate to think we train a guy for more than one position. ROLB and LOLB are like night and day.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 10, 2008 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speed

I am not shocked that we took Larsen even though he is a bit slow. K2 isn’t all that fast either, and we have him at MLB. So maybe it is a trend.

I hoped for our LB to look like this:

DJ, Woodyard
K2, Larsen
Boss, Winborn

Two rookie backups aren’t thrilling, but Woodyard is good player who has limited tool physically speaking. I am not worried about him picking up the system and fitting in. He won’t be worse than Gold was last year. I am a bit worried about Larsen backing up an unproven K2 … but we drafted the guy and we can’t just dump him.

Frankly, I am not thrilled. This is a LB unit that won’t hold up if the D-line doesn’t show dramatic improvement.

Orange County is hot. Really! Haven't you seen the weather report?

by amirebram on Jun 10, 2008 6:54 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

A MLB in most systems...

...can be a fast guy or a slower guy, so I’m not too concerned there either. But K2’s on field speed actually looks pretty darned good. He is a major force in STs coverage, and I think his speed is the difference.

I’m not concerned about drafting and then dumping a player. We bring in players from the draft to compete for starting and back-up positions, and they provide opportunities rather than (always providing) immediate impact. With three starters already in place, the draftees are already fighting for just a back-up position. That means the roster is tight, and the last couple of spots are up in the air.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 11, 2008 3:19 AM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

injuries

i’m a lot less concerned about injuries this season as in season’s past. we have excellent depth to compensate for this, but let’s admit it, injury concerns are all over the roster. fa’s, draft picks, returning players, all injury concerns. i will spare you the list, since everyone seems to be well-versed in the medical conditions of our players. it will not surprise me if we lose 6 players this year to injury. it happens. while shanny has taken some risks on this front, he also has provided a plan b. i think the backups are going to get more playing time than normal, and the starters may even vary somewhat based on the opponent, another option with talented reserves. we’ll deal with all of this pretty well. i see an attitude with this team, developed last season, that they will not be shy about inserting players, and those players holding up their end. this is what a team is, and we should be able to field a very competitive team every week, regardless of injuries. mentally, and physically, we are better suited for lady luck’s wrath. this is the foundation of championship teams, in my opinion, and i expect this team to play hard and play well, whomever is lining up

by davecheffy on Jun 10, 2008 3:03 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

One thing I feel good about.

Today at work I had a few free minutes and wrote down a depth chart for OFF and DEF, as well as the required STs (K, P, LS). I found it hard to cut down to the required roster number for the start of the season. I think we have terrific depth this year, and I haven’t felt this way for awhile. Do I think we win the championship? No. But i think we have a core group in place. We have a couple of tricky years coming up with some contracts, but th depth will absorb a lot of the shock. But even during that time, we should be well positioned to continue improvement with our core group of youngsters in place.

I see us in position to possibly get a wildcard this year, but to hit the playoffs for several years thereafter.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 10, 2008 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Always

I’m always concerned about injuries. How concerned? I dunno. It is just a fact that injuries occur. And all that we can do is create depth and competition.

One thing that I’ve noticed, good teams don’t have as many injuries. This is a tricky situation. I wonder if teams are good because they don’t have injuries. Or, are teams that are good able to avoid injuries. There is a slight change of scope there. It may be too philisophical, but just a thought.

by Mr. Irrelevant on Jun 18, 2008 10:14 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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