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Horse Tracks 6/10/08

Here's a Tuesday edition of Horse Tracks.  Enjoy!

Dave Kreiger talks about Shanny's "back to the future" approach to the WR corps.  See here

Boss Bailey answered some light questions.  See here

Former Bronco Jake Plummer and the Bucs are near a settlement.  See here

Broncos single game tickets go on sale July 12.  See here

Looks like Las Vegas isn't giving Denver much of a shot.  Maybe some cash can be made?  See here

Longmont Daily Times-Call talks about the positive change the Broncos have made.  See here

AFC West

You think the Broncos have some struggles getting back to the top?  At least we aren't the Missouri Indians.  See here

Once a conquered fader, always a conquered fader.  Kenny Stabler has been nabbed for his third DUI.  See here

Phyllis and his merry men are still having stadium issues.  See here

NFL News

Michael Strahan retires, Cedric Benson is cut and T.O. has to take more drug tests.  See here

That's all I have for now.  Have a good day!

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Stadium issues

For phyllis and girls isnt going to get any better any time soon. Its a joke. This city is a joke. They ahve already lost TWO NBA teams (Houston Rockets and LA Clippers) and they are in real trouble. It is possible the Chargers could end up in LA. I hope so. These idiots here dont deserve a team. They cant even grasp the concept that a new stadium will also put them in the Super Bowl rotation. Which is HUGE cash for the city. O-well. This is the worst run city I have ever been in. I mean when the Mayor and City attorney have almost daily press conferences to reply to the others remarks.

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 10, 2008 11:41 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree with all of those statements.

I can attest to them because I lived there for many years. MORONS! Every damn one of them!

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Tim Lynch on Jun 10, 2008 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

The more distractions for the Bolts, the better

By the way Broncofanstuckinsd…............. I like your new avatar!

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit"

Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on Jun 10, 2008 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

the more distractions the better. Dont forget I think phyllis and company will regret losing Lorenzo

I thought this was a better avatar than the other one. =)

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 10, 2008 2:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

What is it with you and Jarah Mariano?

That’s your second avatar of her. Where did you find her?

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 10, 2008 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

it was tough

It was either her or Lima. I just could not decide so I flipped a Denver Bronco 25th seson commeoritive coin. Heads it was Jarah and the other it was Lima.
I found Jarah in the SI.com swinsuit 2008. I have other picks from that gallery also.

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 10, 2008 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Adrianna Lima!

Yes, she’d love me if she knew me. If she really wanted me she could have me, uhm, well, if Mrs. Hoosierteacher said I could. Which is probably a no. Shania Twain’s recent breakup didn’t move me closer to Shania Twain (in Mrs. HT’s book).

Oh well. Sigh.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 10, 2008 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Did you hear the one about......

Two guys were talking in a bar. One said “Are you married?” The other said “Oh yes, my wife’s and Angel”. The first guy said “your’e lucky, my wife is still alive!”

Send them over to me I’m single…

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit"

Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on Jun 10, 2008 7:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

Good one Diehard!!

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson

by firstfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Question about the Vegas betting

I’m not a gambler, never have been. I understand terms like “4 to 1” odds, but what does it mean “+400” for Denver to win the division? Can somebody explain the bet to me?

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit"

Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on Jun 10, 2008 1:19 PM MDT reply actions  

First

you need to understand the difference between a moneyline and a pointline. A pointline is based on the pointspread and is is almost always -110 Which means if you bet $100 and win you only get paid approx. $90 for betting on the favorite and $110 for betting on the underdog. (the missing ten dollars for the favorite goes to the bookie and is called vigorish. The winners of the bet are paid by the losers of the bet, which is why bookmakers want even action on both sides.) Occasionally you will find pointlines at -105 or -115 or even -120, but these are instances of “sale prices” or “preventative prices”.

A money line doesn’t take the pointspread into consideration and is weighted towards small payouts for favorites and huge payouts for underdogs. But unlike pointspreads, you have to be exactly right with your winners and losers. For the Broncos to be listed at +400 means to be at 4.00 to 1, that is, if you bet $100 you will win $400 (100×4.00=400). Denver is considered pretty hefty underdog in this case. The numbers for a favorite are little bit different, becuase the process is reversed. If you bet on a favorite with odds of -400 that means you will only make $25 on your $100 bet (100 / 4.00 = 25)

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 10, 2008 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow everybody!

Read that Krieger article. I know a lot of folks here are high on Jackson, and I’m in light company thinking Colbert may be the surprise WR that starts opposite Marshall. But read what Shanahan says throughout the article about Colbert! I’m telling ya, this guy might just sneak in under the radar!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 10, 2008 3:35 PM MDT reply actions  

It sure makes me feel better about our receivers.

Now let’s see:
~ O Line, much improved
~ Tight Ends, healthy
~ RB, much improved with depth
~ QB, diabetes diagnosed and corrected.

I think our offense might be better this year. We might control the clock more. Which might make our defense better. Hmmm. I think it will be a fun year.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson

by firstfan on Jun 10, 2008 10:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Tempering optimism (without being a pessimist)

TEs – Scheff’s foot problem may be longer lasting. He’ll be wearing a special insert of some type, and will play through some pain. That’s not the end of the world, since he played through pain the second half lf last season and did very well. At least now it is being treated.

DTs is still a question mark in my book, but there is a chance we can do very well there. Styg’s article points out some concern at SAM LB, and the comments discussions have a good debate about fallback options there.

The offense has the potential to be stellar. The defense will be improved, but anywhere from not very much to a whole lot. The key to our season lies in the defense (in my biased opinion), and the key to the defense (as was the case last year) is still at the DT position.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 11, 2008 2:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

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