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Thoughts on Javon Walker

The Facts:

Javon Walker was attacked and beaten early in the morning on a Monday in Vegas.

He lost a significant amount of cash and jewelry in the attack.

He was hospitalized and treated for his injuries.

There are lots of prayers,/thoughts/condolences earmarked for delivery to Walker.

The Thoughts:

There will be much more "stuff" reported as the days and weeks pass.  We'll hear that he was mugged, kidnapped, robbed by 'crews', rolled by hookers, ad nauseum.  We'll have to forage through that mess as best we can.  But I have a difficult request to ask of Broncos fans.

Please consider withholding your prayers/thoughts/condolences in this instance.

A hard lesson was concretized for us these past seasons, and I am troubled to think we might not have learned, unequivocably, what it was.  This lesson says that a man cannot be split by Solomon, cannot be asked to be two halves meant to appease two sides for two reasons.  Shanahan learned this.

After a season that saw a divided locker room and a divided team, we have spent the offseason marvelling at how this team seems to have healed, seems to have sewn up an incredible gash that threatened to separate the soul from the body.  We wait with eagerness and anticipation to see whether the patient can survive the rigors of a season, and find that a gash between the fans seems to be healing as well.  Under the Broncos banner we are uniting again, and revelling in the fact that we are no longer being asked to separate what we value from what we want.  They are one and the same.

Do not think that we have the luxury of looking at Javon Walker as either a human being or a football player.  They are one and the same.  And too, do not forget that it was not Walker the football player that was excised in our attempt to heal, but Walker the person.  We miss the football player, the 69 for 1084, just like we miss all of the values that he could bring as a person, but he could not maintain a split between who he wanted to be and who we wanted him to be anymore.  When we parted ways it was justified.  In the wake of that cut and cuts like it the surgery was finally sincere and complete:  a complete team, a complete community rallied around it.  Don't betray that.

On the other side of the coin Javon found a home with Incomplete Inc., setting his chances of survival back terminally in many of our opinions.  But that, and more, is his problem.  Its his problem, and it is not enviable.  Leave it at that, and save your energy and your efforts.  Don't cast pearls and get nothing in return.  But this is just my advice, nothing more.

Your energy is needed here.  Where it might do some good.

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Hear, Hear!

As I (and many others) have stated before, Shannahan is taking over control of this team once more, jetisoning dead-weight and malcontents. Some of the moves he’s made are bold and unpopular, but I believe the’ve all been toward this goal: establishing the Broncos, once again, as the dominant AFC West team – no excuses, no compromises, no losers.

While I don’t wish pain or injury on anyone, and I’ll stop short of saying JW got what he deserved, he did get what anyone would expect for acting like the pompus, self-righteous, narcisistic ass that he is. Good riddance!

Great post!

by BornOrange on Jun 18, 2008 7:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Good Riddance?

Not quite so fast Donkey…...

Javon will be ready for training camp…...

Prepare yourself for the second coming on MNF!!

OakFoSho

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by 0akFoSho on Jun 19, 2008 1:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

The second coming of...

Last years 4-12 season? Or the previous year’s 2-14?

by JR_G on Jun 19, 2008 5:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think they are shooting for 3-13. Split the uprights

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Tim Lynch on Jun 19, 2008 8:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

I see a pattern here,

This year the Oakland Ass-Clowns could pile on another 2 wins and end up 6-12. I really think I’m being overly generous here, but the sun has to shine on even a dog’s ass somedays.

Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.

by kwool79 on Jun 19, 2008 2:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

second coming of what

Oh BTW has he gotten in shape yet? As you know Kiffin (your head coach for the time being) blasted him for being fat.

Nice team guy. Rather go to Vegas spray champagne and become a huge issue than get ready for the season. Yet another great pick up by alice and the faders

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 19, 2008 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oak fo Sho,

I don’t want to get personal with you here, but you (like your football team) are retarded. Your Oakland Mongoloids have always been cellar dwellers and this year will be no exception. I guarantee you Javon will have depth perception problems IF he returns to the field (which he won’t).

On top of that, he’s over weight and fresh off knee surgery. His knee is going to fall off before training camp concludes. Where are you gonna be then? Let me tell you: with Ronald Curry as your #1 receiver. What a friggin joke!!!! Just like you and your team’s chances of winning more than 4 games this year.

Look Oak No Show, I see from your post times that you don’t get on MHR until your finished with your drive-by shootings around 3:30 in the morning. So I guess I’ll see your lame, uneducated opinion tomorrow.

Go kick rocks clown.

Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.

by kwool79 on Jun 19, 2008 2:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

I am not worried about wasted effort

The gang at MHR do not seem to have any difficulties with following the Javon incident and giving good feedback to posts. Case in point

shanahan a cheater? by dabriza

During the post, a fan of the Colts tried to say incorrect information about THE Coach (Shanahan). Then BAM the MHR posse made him cry and run away. They used facts and intelligent discourse to make their points known (Imagine That). If the crew at MHR decide to give some feedback about Javon that is OK. They are able to rise to the occasion when needed.

Victor Frankl:

What man actually needs is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of him. What he needs is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by him.

by wyoeng on Jun 18, 2008 7:27 PM MDT reply actions  

That is a classic thread, and it is only a few days old

But I just want to be sure about the Javon Walker situation. Debate is always good, but the standup guys at MHR are almost too ready to take on Javon’s issues as their own for concern. I just want to be sure that they don’t waste their strength under that burden.

But I agree wholeheartedly, the story broke, the MHR community got the information they needed to make the best decision they could.

I just want to be sure that we don’t lose sight of the big picture here.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 18, 2008 7:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what to feel about Walker

As TSG said in an earlier post, no one deserves to be beaten and robbed the way Walker was. He is a human just like the rest of us, and is as affected by it as any ‘normal person’ would be. He will have to miss valuable time at his profession and will most likely need some kind of reconstructive work done (at least that’s what I’m hearing, don’t hold me to that statement)

On the other hand, ans Styg so eloquently put it, the guy is the epitome of the “I player.” He created a divide in his locker room and demanded more money and more passes instead of leading his troops into battle. When Nalen went down, Walker was the lone veteran starter on offense, and it should have been his responsibility to try to lead the team to vie for a playoff spot and help the youngsters deal with their first taste of a playoff run. In this, he utterly failed.

For this reason I don’t know how Walker as a person is dealing with his injury. Is he concerned about missing valuable time on the job to try and get better and learn a new system, or is he concerned that his injury will cut into his stats and affect future contracts he may make? I think he’s leaning firmly to the latter, and that is why he is no longer a part of this organization.

Why do I live in Kansas City?

by papigrande on Jun 18, 2008 8:21 PM MDT reply actions  

You'll come to the right decision

One thing about guys that find value in the MHR, they tend to be a cut above! It starts with the Broncos though.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 18, 2008 8:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I’ve noticed that too. The writing here is very excellent, better than most of the drivel I get anywhere else online.

I hope Walker is ready for the opener though. One because I truly hope he’s all right, and two because I can’t wait to see John Lynch blast him coming across the middle for being a traitorous piece of conquered fader fodder!

Why do I live in Kansas City?

by papigrande on Jun 18, 2008 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

A table for two

Here is a crossroads. I, as the man I am, must choose so that the man I desire to be will exist. This choice of directions, it is a challenge and a defining moment in my evolution as a human being. I stop and take stock for a moment, then choose. But, alas, down the road I meet myself and behold! I am the same.

The inner being creates the outer experiences and Javon Walker is still meeting himself. If he had wanted to change then he would still be a part of that "something special" that we at MHR are starting to see develop this reloading season. Hints at an aura of greatness are beginning to seep from Dove Valley and maybe not this year or next year, but then again, maybe, just maybe that soon! And he could have been a part but he chose not to be.

Later on in life he and a running back named Henry might get together and tip a few while bitterly contemplating what might have been.

by cuprite on Jun 18, 2008 10:26 PM MDT reply actions  

Picking at an old scab.

Styg I see your point in a certain light. This could cause some picking at an old scab (the old scab being the D-Will murder) that has begun to heal. I don’t think the organization needs to spend any more time worrying about JW, clearly they tried to reel him in. I just hope he can learn that he needs to move on and the way he is living now is no way to honor the life of D-Will or the friendship they had.

by ThorpeBroncosfan on Jun 18, 2008 11:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Exactly

When I first heard the news about Walker, my immediate thoughts went to Darrent Williams. I couldn’t and still can’t stop wondering how much of JW’s actions put them in harms way on that New Years Eve. It is a wound that hasn’t yet healed.

From everything that we do know about the night DW was murdered, so many similarities have surfaced with JW in Vegas. I’m thankful he’s not on the team anymore; Believing that it would help with that healing process with the other players, but now we are all reminded again.

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on Jun 19, 2008 6:47 AM MDT reply actions  

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