Broncos Roster VS Chargers Roster

by unkown on Jun 21, 2008 1:03 PM MDT Comment 44 comments

The following is taken from one of DaBolts' comments in Zappa's "The San Diego Chargers...A Paper Tiger?" post. I wanted to make a new post out of it so we can have a focused discussion. My thanks to DaBolts for coming over here and giving us an outside perspective.

DaBolts' comment, slightly edited:

Backups with serious talent include Scott Chandler, Charlie Whitehurst, Legedu Naanee, Ryan Bingham, Anthony Waters, Brandon Siler, Paul Oliver and Carlos Polk. I would bet most of them could start on a lot of clubs, some like Waters, Naanee and Oliver I expect to start on the Chargers before too long. Note that McCree didn’t have enough to make it as a Charger, but still got eagerly snatched up by the Broncos.

Players with big time talent include Pro Bowl center Nick Hardwick, Pro Bowl guard Kris Dielman, Pro Bowl Tackle Marcus McNeill, Pro Bowl Nose Tackle Jamaal Williams, ILB Stephen Cooper (the heart of our defense, even with all that talent) and Pro Bowl LB Shaun Phillips. Add that to LaDainian Tomlinson, Antonio Gates, Shawn Merriman, Luis Castillo, Antonio Cromartie, and Darren Sproles and you have twelve elite players, ten Pro Bowlers and eight extremely talented backups.

LoNeal was a great player for the Bolts and a leader in the locker room, but the two games after he went down LT rushed for over 100 yds, averaging 7.7 and 5.6 yds per game. LTs production fell off only after he was injured, Pinnock did an excellent job as fullback, plus he can catch. The Oline is the real key to running the ball, and with Turner as coach we have something to turn to now if opponents stack eight in the box. But lets go through position by position:

Rivers vs. Cutler

Cutler has the edge in almost every category but Ws. Rivers is competitive and knows how to win and performs well under pressure. His fourth quarter rankings are much higher than any other quarter. Still I would give Cutler the edge right now, it will be interesting to see how Rivers does with Chambers for the whole season next year.

LT vs. whomever Denver decides to plug in

Uh, LT Duh. Might it be bad if LT went down? Sure, but the backups did pretty well to pull it out against the Colts in their own house.

WR

Chambers and V. Jackson are big targets that really came into their own last year averaging about 100yds per game each in the playoffs. Buster Davis, last years first round pick had a slow start, but you could see potential at the end. Brandon Marshall is better than anyone the Chargers have, but you have to wonder about his mental stability and how his arm is going respond after the nerve damage he got whilst wrastling a paper bag (and they call the Chargers immature?). With Eric Parker and Malcolm Floyd, we are likely going to trade or drop a WR, this is the deepest the Bolts have been at this position in years. I’m going to call this a push.

TE

Uh Antonio Gates, duh. Come on the best tight end in the business, we have a great blocking tight end in backup and Chandler would start on almost any NFL team. So many of your arguments boil down to, ‘Yeah, he’s a stud, but how imagine if he gets hurt!’ Maybe that’s why the Broncos stick with those mediocre players, eh?

OL

San Diego has Hardwick, Dielman and McNeill, all Pro Bowlers. It’ll be interesting to see how your rook does, but the Chargers have a talented group. Oddly this is the one are we actually may see some depth problems if there is an injury; the only one you missed I think.

DL

Chargers by a long shot, even when Castillo has gone down our backups are awesome. The Broncos may be developing, but you are a long way yet. J. Williams knees are the only concern, and how do you replace a beast like him; his backups are good though.

LB

Chargers by a mile. Merriman is an athletic freak, Shaun Phillips often overlooked is almost as good. Stephen Cooper has turned into a monster in the middle, watch for him to make the Pro Bowl next year.

CB

I’ll actually call this a push, but because of your weak DL, you aren’t going to see the production that the Chargers do. Cromartie is another freak, two intercepts and a forced fumble in the playoffs, another in the Pro Bowl. Whoever said he only made it because of Manning should watch the three picks he made on him, two wouldn’t have been made by anyone else.

Safety

Uh, come on you are taking our cast offs and Lynch is geaser. Weddle is solid and watch for Paul Oliver to start at SS and play in nickel. Big edge to SD.

And overall there won’t be the adjustment to a new offensive and defensive system this year. Chargers were playing much better on both sides of the ball at the end of the year, and even with tons of injuries kept the championship game close until the final quarter. Ron Rivera has the guys ball hawking, most turnovers in the league, watch for it again next year. Chargers go 12-4 and go to the Super Bowl this year, you heard it here first!

by DaBolts on Jun 20, 2008 7:01 PM PDT

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Which roster is better, top to bottom, on paper?

San Diego Chargers

41 votes

Denver Broncos

19 votes

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My take on the roster comparison

I admit I don’t know a lot about the Chargers’ roster beyond the superstars (of which they have plenty). DaBolts, I’ll have to take your word on the depth department because it’s hard to know other teams’ depth, never mind their active rosters. At the same time, I know the Broncos’ depth pretty good, so I’ll assume you are the same way about the chargers.

Looking at your comparisons, I mostly agree with you. As seems to be the case with the Broncos all too much recently, many of my points are going to based on pretty big “ifs,” but lets assume for the sake of argument that everybody is healthy for both teams.

QB
I agree with your analysis of the QB matchup. I’d also like to add that it seems like Rivers has endeared himself to his teammates with his effort in the championship game, playing injured. Both quarterbacks faced medical adversity last year and both handled it well.

RB
I love LT, but the Broncos have a guy in Selvin Young who averaged over 5 yards a carry last season and who is also very talented as a receiver out of the backfield. Behind him is a whole cadre of talented runners. LT is still one of the premier runners, but I don’t think the gap between LT and the Broncos backfield is very big.

WR
Brandon Marshall is a beast and the best receiver on both teams. Brandon Stokely is the best #3 receiver on both teams, and widely considered the best slot receiver in football. Filling in as the #1 receiver last season while Javon Walker was injured, he did a great job for a while, but was too fragile and started to get dinged up. At the #2 spot, there is Darrell Jackson, a known quantity and talented #1 in the past with a skill set similar to Javon Walker without the injury history. Keary Colbert is also projected to start at the #2 spot, although this is mostly on news out of the Broncos organization. On top of it all, there is good depth behind these guys. From my point of view, the Broncos are very strong and deep at WR. While it is clear the SD has gotten better at WR, particularly after the acquisition of Chris Chambers in the middle of the season last year, I gotta give this one to the Broncos.

TE
Gates is a beast and probably the premier tight end in the league. Denver’s tight ends are no slouches either. Graham is probably the best blocking tight end, and can catch the ball. Scheffler is a great receiving tight end. He doesn’t block as well as Gates though. Overall, I give the nod to SD because it is better to have both aspects in one package, but once again, the gap is not very big.

OL
Denver’s OL should be much improved this year with a healthy Tom Nalen (and hopefully Ben Hamilton). Beyond that, Clady should be a step up from Lepsis’ decline last season. Overall, there is great depth and potential on the line, but it still has to gel. The SD line is a known factor with some depth issues. Right now, I give the nod to SD, but by the end of the season or next year, the pendulum might shift over to the Broncos.

DL
Can’t argue with you here. While the Broncos’ DEs are good and deep, their DTs are unproven. Right now the edge goes to SD.

LB
This is probably the area of SD’s greatest strength and Denver’s greatest weakness. While the unit as a whole promises great improvement over last season, it is still a long way from having a star MLB. DJ Williams is probably the only pro bowl caliber LB on the Broncos. Boss Bailey has the tools, so there is potential there if he can stay healthy for once. The depth at the OLB position is troublesome. SD takes this one handily.

CB
Denver still has the best all-around CB in the NFL in Champ Bailey. Dre Bly is certainly good at coverage, although I sure wish he could tackle, at all. Not to be discounted is the great depth in Paymah and Foxworth. I gotta give this one to Denver.

Safety
Denver is not strong at safety. None of the players are stars, anymore. Lynch is still smart and hits hard, but he doesn’t have the range and versatility of some of the younger safeties. I like the depth at the position this year, but the ceiling isn’t very high. I have to give this one to SD.

Overall, I have to give it to SD. They have more proven talent than the Broncos on average. There is a lot of promise in a lot of places for the Broncos, and some areas where they might be absolutely dominant (QB, OL, WR, OFFENSE), but it seems like they still need a season or so for the pieces to sort themselves out. The Chargers, on the other hand, are here and now. Next year, we’ll see.

by unkown on Jun 21, 2008 1:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Reasonable enough

Most of where we disagree I can see your side. I’m thinking we have the next two years with legit shots, after that who knows. You certainly know the Bronco talent better than I. Our WRs are unproven, but I think that is an area that may surprise a lot of folks. Nice post unknown.

"He's doing everything a receiver would do except catch the ball." Mike Shanahan

by Brian (DaBolts) on Jun 21, 2008 8:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

Thanks for providing the original comment to spawn this thread. Also thank-you for providing your insights on the Chargers. I’m very interested in learning more about our division opponents. Where do you go for your info on the Chargers? If you feel like it, I would love to read a fan post about the Chargers. Here are some things I’d like to know. Who are some of their exciting prospects that might surprise some people this year (like Ryan Torrain, Keary Colbert, or Marcus Thomas for the Broncos)? Where do they have hidden depth? What scheme do they run and how does it match up against the Broncos? Have there been any important changes to their coaching staff? Whats the word on the inside, how do knowledgeable Charger fans feel about the season?

by unkown on Jun 21, 2008 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

Thanks, you guys are all right. I’m going away for a week, but when I get back I’ll see if I can throw something together. I’ll warn you that i don’t have nearly the X’s and O’s knowledge of someone like HT though.

"He's doing everything a receiver would do except catch the ball." Mike Shanahan

by Brian (DaBolts) on Jun 21, 2008 10:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You don't have to have to be a coach...

...to write a solid article. Put up a fan post about what you know, and let the readers fill in during the comments sections. I write a lot of posts about areas I’m not very knowledgable in (such as managment issues), but the readers take the information and the discussions are where the story takes off.

Don’t be intimidated. The name of the game at MHR is to put up a post about something on your mind, something you are interested in, or something you want to share. Then (most times) folks will add to your post by commenting. My favorite posts and stories aren’t the ones where the original writing was solid, but the ones that launcehed some good questions, answers, or conversations. Give it a shot!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 22, 2008 8:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

DaBolts

Do the Chargers have site on SB Nation?

by Mike Clark on Jun 22, 2008 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not yet.

But you can check out a good SBnation-like site, Bolttalk. In fact, I believe BoltTalk was approached by SBNation to be their Chargers blog, but he preferred to keep doing things his way.

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by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 23, 2008 9:08 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Better yet

check out this thread, which links to several charger’s sites…

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by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 23, 2008 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Honestly, Guys...

The Broncos edge the Chargers in two (QB and WR), maybe four (plus TE and DB) positions, while SD leads comfortably in all the rest (RB, OL, DL, LB). It’s no slight to our own team to admit that they’re the more talented team at the moment. The question is, will they ever take the next step with their current core and win a Super Bowl? Denver will be competative in 2008 and could even challenge for a playoff birth, but our real window of opportunity has not yet begun!

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by ejruiz on Jun 21, 2008 3:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I disagree with CB/DB

I have seen the Charger DB’s. For one denver is way better at CB and the SAF position got better. Plus SD’s starter last year McCree is now in the correct colors. Plus when you have Champ and take away 1/3 of the field. So how does SD have better DB’s that Denver? Clinton Hart couldnt catch a cold and is a poor tackler. Weddle is inexperience and was backing up McCree. Cromatie and Jammer are not near as good as Bly/Champ. Man. . . . . .

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 21, 2008 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll just throw out

my stats again:

Picks Dre & Champ 8 – Cro & Jammer 11 picks
Defensive TDs Dre & Champ 0 – Cro & Jammer 2
PDs Dre & Champ 28 – Cro & Jammer 28

I still say it’s a push, and those stats were with Cromartie only starting the last six games (he was in plenty of nickel & dime packages though). Everyone knew about Cromartie by the playoffs and he pulled down two more there and one more in the Pro Bowl.

"He's doing everything a receiver would do except catch the ball." Mike Shanahan

by Brian (DaBolts) on Jun 21, 2008 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Impressive

Those are very impressive stats for Cromartie, 10 INTs only starting 6 games. Expect a big rebound statistically from Champ this year. He had 10 INTs in 2006 and 8 in 2005. A failed defensive scheme transition can really hurt a CB’s stats. He has also had over 70 tackles the last two seasons.

by unkown on Jun 21, 2008 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

The SD DB stats are impressive, but......

how would they have fared if they played behind Denver’s front 7 last season? As we all know, Denver could not stop the run and the opponents were usually protecting a lead.

SD’s situation was the opposite. Opponents were usually trying to catch up and were doing the predictable thing – throwing early and often. This creates great opportunities for ballhawking DBs. It is to the credit of the SD backfield that they were able to capitalize on those opportunities, but what would they do with a more mundane defense?

BTW, I agree that Cromartie has excellent tools at CB. It will be exciting to see him develop.

by Arctic Bronco on Jun 22, 2008 11:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

You are gonna compare

Last season?
How about Champ/Bly 12 probowls Cromartie/Jammer -1

Just remember one season doesnt make Cromartie a great player. I remember Mathis of Jville had a great 2006 or Ashmounga (faders good cb) had a great 2006 and both sort of faded on 2007. Put up back to back seasons like that then come talk to me.

Plus remember this Champ get the fewest amount of balls thrown his direction than any CB in the game. That right there gives Denver the edge at CB

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 22, 2008 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

In fairness...

...a lot of the probowl players are popular because people recognize the name, regardless of how well they played that year.

I have a lot of respect for Cromartie and Ashmounga, regardless of the pro bowl numbers.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 23, 2008 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

And where does this come from?

“Clinton Hart couldnt catch a cold and is a poor tackler.”

Hart had five picks as the Strong Safety. Bly was the only Bronco that had as many. Hart also had over a hundred tackles, he had a great year.

"He's doing everything a receiver would do except catch the ball." Mike Shanahan

by Brian (DaBolts) on Jun 21, 2008 10:46 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I plan on reserving my judgement here

I think Smith has assembled a very specific defensive backfield (HT???) for what they are doing. I like the kid they drafted as well. Cromartie has unbelievable athleticism, but…

Champ and Bly will get a chance this year to do what they do best, playing within the man-showblitz system. Last year’s runcontain defensive system did not capitlaze on their skills, and as the defense struggled you saw them taking risks that even ballhawking corners would balk at. Champ was consistently stuck between a rock and a hard choice on his coverages, where there was no right answer: bite underneath with no safety help or stay on your guy and watch another run go for 11 yards.

I am confident that they will have probowl caliber years. The rest of our DBs are purely functional, but I would be remiss if I didn’t indicate that Lynch has had a fire lit under him that you see in only a handful of competitor’s in every generation. And we all have the same question regarding him: the soul is willing but is the body?

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by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 21, 2008 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

"I think Smith has assembled a very specific defensive backfield (HT???)"

SD runs a solid scheme, has the players to capitalize on it, and most importantly – uses the players correctly in the scheme. In fact, they do this on both sides of the ball. SD’s CBs and SAFs are very, very good at what they do and they are used in a way that they complement each other (something lacking in Denver last year).

I think Denver and SD each have a top five CB tandem in the NFL. I give Denver the edge, but we have two players “getting up there” while SD only has one. Cromartie will be around for awhile.

At SAF, I give SD a very strong edge. For some reason, Denver just doesn’t emphasize the position much (thank God we’ll have a pass rush).

However, returning to a scheme that works with the current personnel is a start for Denver. One thing that many of us fans are going to have to brace for is also the large amount of new starters. One or two at SAF, two at LB (and DJ moved again), the return of injured personnel at DE, and at least one new DT. I expect Denver to be much better this year, and we have an easier schedule. But we also are switching schemes and coordinator on defense, and also have new people. This is part of the reason I think we may go with 9 or 10 wins, instead of 13.

SD is past worries about changing schemes and personnel. This is why they are a better team right now. I’m not being “down” on the Broncos. We are in the middle of a great re-building, and there is nowhere for SD to go but down. But I think we need at least one more year for things to click, and at least one more year for SD to face some tough decisions.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 22, 2008 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

On McCree

As I understand it, McCree lost his starting job to Weddle partway through the season. Similar to how Nick Ferguson lost is job to Hamzah Abdullah. By that logic, Weddle is the better safety, although there is a reasonable argument that McCree will be a good fit for this defense, providing a similar style of play as Lynch.

by unkown on Jun 21, 2008 5:08 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

It wasnt because of Weddles play

It was more or less a reason based on cash. Smith was going to let McCree go at the end of the season and forced Norv to put in Weddle. Plus according to the SD beat writer it was to give McCree a rest, In all actuality McCree started the entire season. Weddle was getting around 25 plays a game. Plus McCree was a big Marty guy and let it be known. It was a punk move on Smith. But their loss is the Broncos gain. I think McCree will be the defacto starter this year. Lynch maybe on the field for the 1st play or whatever but you will see more McCree than Lynch. IMO

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 21, 2008 5:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

thanks for the correction

I was speculating based on the tidbits I had picked up. I really don’t know much about the league beyond the Broncos and what makes headline news. I’m glad to hear that McCree wasn’t allowed to leave due to declining talent.

by unkown on Jun 21, 2008 9:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

McCree looks pretty good

Weddle certainly got his time in, but I looked back at the playoffs last year. McCree played in the Divisional playoff against Indy. He recovered a Marvin Harrison Fumble early and then in the 4th he put a big hit on Harrison to knock the ball loose for no catch with a minute to go. This killed Indy on their final effort to score in the game. In the Championship game vs NE, McCree had 5 unasisted tackles, just 2 behind Cromartie which led the SD defense.

Unknown stated:

Note that McCree didn’t have enough to make it as a Charger, but still got eagerly snatched up by the Broncos.

I believe that Charger fans want to feel better about themselves and losing McCree; He had better numbers in 07 than Weddle or Jammer as far as tackles and assists. He was a key player on defense in the Playoffs last year for SD. So this is a guy that couldn’t make it as a Charger?

Sounds to me like Al Smith wants to make the Weddle investment more credible. Maybe they didn’t really need Weddle, but now it made McCree expendable. The numbers appear to say that he certainly could and certainly did make it as a Charger.

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on Jun 22, 2008 2:47 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

McCree is kind of like Niko in my opinion.

McCree is a starting talent in the league. He was bumped by Weddle. Niko was just stuck behind a great talent in SEA.

McCree is going to surprise Denver fans in a very pleasant way. I also agree that McCree may get more starting time than Lynch.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 22, 2008 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also

Last year in the Colts playoff game when Indy was trying to win the game McCree put a hit on Harrison that separated the ball from him was why SD ended up winning that game. I think SD fans were so use to AJ patting himself on the back that he is gonna regret some of his choices. Remember this it was Butler who traded the #1 pick (Vick trade) that got them LT and Brees.

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 22, 2008 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, Correction. DaBolts made the quote in my previous post, not "Unknown"

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on Jun 22, 2008 2:51 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Antonio Cromartie.

You guys are seriously underestimating Cromartie… if all the CB’s in the league were pooled and you were given the #1 pick, would you even hesitate in picking Antonio? Yeah, Champ is our guy and he’s still the best, but that kid in SD is at very least at his level and on the way up.

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by ejruiz on Jun 22, 2008 11:20 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I season does not make

Him a great CB. I remember when Deltha O’neal had 10 picks in 2002. What happened after that. He was an unknown and then the league caught up him. The AFC has had an entire offseason to watch film on him. Watch and see what happens. Plus I dont think he can shut down WR’s like Champ

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 22, 2008 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Champ is better.

And we all dislike the Chargers. And you are right that one season doesn’t make a guy Superman.

But I think Cromartie is the real deal, and his talent looks pretty impressive to me.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 23, 2008 2:41 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about a Special Teams comparison?

I know that Denver had blah ST production last year, but it seems like there will be improvements this year, especially with Royal.

I know very little about SD’s ST situation, a comparison would be very interesting.

by Arctic Bronco on Jun 22, 2008 11:42 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

My opinion

With pickups in the reloading season, I really see us improving in coverage and returns. I remain concerned about punting and kicking.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jun 23, 2008 2:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

ht I agree and disagree

I love this reloading season and wish we still had Elam. In an earlier comment however you said that we all dislike the Chargers. I know I am this sites idiot—but here I go.

I like the Chargers. I don’t love them like I love the Broncos-but I lived in SD for three years (back in the Fouts era). I wish they had won a Superbowl back then, we were not able. I wish they had won the Superbowl(s) they visited—-it would’ve made the AFC west look great.

They now have a QB with a mouth needing staples. San Diego, however, is a team that is strong, tallented, and continues to be under coached. Norv will bring them down this year. I hope San Diego (despite Norv) makes it into the playoffs-—if they play against us they will lose—-if we lose to someone else in the playoffs, I hope they win. San Diego fans have every bit as much class as Denver fans. They simply have more to do year-round and don’t get as involved.

They are not like Oakland. Oakland I can hate.

by Mike Clark on Jun 23, 2008 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think I've made it clear I like the Chargers too.

But that doesn’t mean I like every Charger or everything the Chargers do. Phyllis needs to shut his mouth, period! You’d never catch Fouts doing that crap.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Jun 24, 2008 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't put the comment in a good context.

When I said ”...and we all dislike the Chargers” I was generalizing. I don’t like Rivers, but I don’t have a problem with the Chargers. The raiders are a historical rival (and a traditional one). But in terms of pure game play, right now the Chargers are the team that we are competing with for a playoff spot.

I have a very good friend who is big on the Chargers, and they (the team) have never bother me on an emotional level. Rivers acted like a jerk, and a few players joined in, but it seemed like an isolated incident to me. Overall, I’m ok with any AFC West team that represents our division in the playoffs unless it is oakland.

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by Steve Nichols on Jun 24, 2008 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

My entire family is pretty much "Charger" fans...

I put Charger in quotes because they are the fair weather fan…most San Diegans are fair weather fans…

That is why I dislike the Chargers so much…they can’t even put together a strong fan base…that is rather pathetic. At least I can respect the fader nation for having a bunch of loyal fans cheering their laughable team on.

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by Tim Lynch on Jun 24, 2008 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs