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Horse Tracks 6/23/08

Here's a Monday edition of Horse Tracks.  Enjoy!

Champ Bailey has turned 30, but he won't be fazed.  See here

A writer in Steamboat Springs shares the same struggle that afflicts Jay Cutler:  both have Type 1 diabetes.  See here

Some guy named Ian Henson thinks the Broncos are going 13-3 this season.  Zappa, did you talk to this guy or is Ian an alias of yours?  You should see this article guys.  I thought I was reading from MHR for a moment.  See here

Looks like the man who owned  the Tahoe used in Darrent Williams' death has dumped his lawyers.  For the record, he was in jail on drug charges while his "ride" was being used that fateful night.  See here

Here's a story of a little known backup Broncos QB named Norris Weese.  It was written by Jim Jensen, a member of the 1977 team.  Maybe the older guys would know more about them.  See here

Here's a article on Anthony Alridge.  See here

Niko Koutouvides talked about the competition for the MLB position.  See here

Here's a story to make us all feel good, but know it is never easy.  It's about Haven Moses and his wife celebrating 40 years of marriage.  See here

AFC West

Here's a story about the desperation of the conquered fader nation and signing Javon Walker.  See here

Phyllis and his merry men added a kick returner and cut some not-so-merry men.  See here

NFL News

Pat Summerall had emergency surgery last week.  Be sure to pray for him.  See here

That's all I have today...have a good day!

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Man do I feel old

MDierks comment that maybe the older guys will remember Weese and Jensen. Wow, I guess it just struck me that Im old (correction “older”). Hell I can’t ever remember talking about the Broncos when somebody said “Norris who?”

I had not heard that story about Jim Jensen and Norris Weese. It was a powerful piece. For those that can’t remember them, they were very popular around Denver. Everybody loved those guys. They were both part of that late 70’s team that changed the Broncos Franchise forever. Hopefully Zappa can do a forgotten Broncos piece on both of them. I didn’t know about Norriss’ death and how it happened. God Bless Norris Weese.

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on Jun 23, 2008 9:15 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I said older instead of "old"

I’m 34 and remember much of the Broncos from the 80’s. Sadly, I was too little to remember the teams of the late 70’s.

fader nation is a conquered nation

by mdierk on Jun 23, 2008 9:22 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am not much older

I eat up anything that says Broncos and their history. I can read anything broncos. Growing up my parents said if I took the time to study school sujects as I did the Broncos I would have been a Mensa

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 24, 2008 1:11 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ya I know

So does ESPN, Bill Williamson and the MSM

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 24, 2008 6:11 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

N00B Question

What is MSM?

"It's all over Fat Man"

- Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

by DesertBroncoFan on Jun 25, 2008 11:13 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MainStream Media

fader nation is a conquered nation

by mdierk on Jun 25, 2008 11:25 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks

I work with the DOD so I work with acronyms all of the time and I can usually figure them out, but this one alluded me.

"It's all over Fat Man"

- Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

by DesertBroncoFan on Jun 25, 2008 1:07 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it (MSM) is the one that ignores the middle of the country.....

and loses money hand over fist!

fader nation is a conquered nation

by mdierk on Jun 25, 2008 1:13 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What?

There is more to the country than the East Coast. Man, I cant believe that. I guess that what I get for reading the papers

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 25, 2008 2:29 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or perhaps...

it “eluded” you. Sorry; teacher thing. : )

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Jun 28, 2008 2:29 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll try. mdierk has a few years on me, so it all depends on what I can find about these two

guys. I still depend alot on the more “experienced” readers to enlighten my history articles even more. I try to get the discussion started and help jog peoples memory…the real learning is done in the actual commenting threads.

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Zappa on Jun 23, 2008 11:36 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember Norris

He led the Broncos to their only TD in Super Bowl XII. He for a brief moment in time was the starter in 1979. I think his last start was against the Seahawks in 1979. He had a bad half, but so did the whole team as Denver fell behind 34-10 at MILE HI! The Morton came in and led the largerst come from behind win in Broncos history (it is tied for the biggest that was in the 60’s) and they won 37-34. I liked Norris he was a moblie QB, and a bit brash, well for the times. But I was a Morton fan and was pissed at Red Miller because he seemed was trying to get rid of Morton in 1979 and in 1980 they traded with the Jets for Matt Robinson. He got the start but was replaced by Craig. But I do have fond memories of the guy. I hope is he is resting in everlasting peace. Plus I always feel great when I hear that former Broncos stay living in Denver. I guess its just my pride of the state of Colorado. IMO the best place to live. Better than even here where I am at

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 23, 2008 11:44 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't realize I was "older" either...

I remember Weese being the scrambler to Morton’s pocket passer. He made the game exciting, but wasn’t nearly as accurate as Morton (as I remember it). I always wondered what happened to him. It’s sad to hear how he passed, but he had dignity all the way.

It’s interesting to find that he and Jensen lived less than a mile away from where I grew up, though it could have been after we moved to Castle Rock when I was in 6th grade (I got Jensen’s autograph at a grand opening for a tire store in Castle Rock when I was in 6th grade). That neighborhood had it’s share of sports stars. David Thompson and Monty Towe shared a house on South Berry Lane (right next to a pond that we would catch crawdads in the summer and ice-skate in the winter) and Rick Upchurch eventually bought our house on Orchard Rd.

"It's all over Fat Man"

- Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

by DesertBroncoFan on Jun 23, 2008 10:41 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was shocked to find he had passed away...

...thirteen years ago. My God, I’m old too.

Like many of you I really enjoyed him. As DesertBroncoFan said, he was the scrambler to Morton’s pocket passer. As I recall, his passes weren’t always pretty but he was one tough son-of-a-gun. I recall a couple of head ons with DB’s and LB’s, (he was not one to back down from a hit). He actually averaged about 5.2 yards per carry. He was also a punter for a year, his first with the Broncos. He averaged 35.6 gross and 30.9 net, not great but it gave him some versatility.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Jun 23, 2008 12:35 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus

He is the only Bronco Qb to gain 100 yards rushing in a game. It was the 1976 final game against the bears. Plus did anyone remember he was the punter in 1976?

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 23, 2008 1:42 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had forgotten about that game.

But I remembered the punting part of his career. His stats weren’t all that great though.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Jun 23, 2008 4:29 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From what my Dad

tells me they were better than Van Huesen’s towards the end of his career. I dont remember Norris punting, but I recall much from 1976 and earlier

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 23, 2008 5:20 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I always liked Billy Van Heusen.

I heard somewhere that he was related to the family that owned Van Heusen Shirts. That may be true but he seemed more blue collar, no pun intended. He played for the Broncos for 9 years, 1968-76. He was an all round player but his primary job with the Broncos was as a punter. I went to Pro-Footbal-Reference.com and found he ended his career with a 41.7 average, not bad. If I read the charts right he often ranked in the top ten in punting and finished # 1 in 1970 and # 2 in 1968. In 1974 he was Pro Football Writer’s 2nd team All NFL. I think he also went to the Pro Bowl in 1970 and 1973.

I think he loved playing wide receiver more. He didn’t set any records that I know of but managed a 20.5 yard per catch average. He also did the occassional end around and scramble for a 13.2 average and even passed the ball a few times.

He and his son recently opened a nutrition store franchise, Max Muscle, in Denver.

I think he is another forgotten Bronco who gave us some very good memories.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Jun 24, 2008 12:50 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Unfortuanletly

He was the first of the Dirty Dozen to get cut, when ownership thought they were gonna keep Ralston. If there ever was one Bad thing the Phipps did it was cutting him. Maybe he would not have made the 77 team, but to cut him to appease Ralston always bothered me. Plus Ralston was gone by 2/1/77. I think by that time the horse was out of the barn.

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 24, 2008 1:14 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was the rumor and I agree.

If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!

by Trinidad Jack on Jun 24, 2008 1:18 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My first memory of Billy

Back in 69 thru the early 70’s, my family would drive down to visit my Gr Grandmother in Colo. Springs. We usually went down two or three times a year, but it was always on Sunday. I hated it because I had to wear Church clothes all day plus the drive from Denver. The worse part was after visiting Gr Grandma, we usually visited my Great Aunt at her Beauty Parlor that she owned near Manitou Springs. She lived at the back of the shop, so when we visited, it was always in the parlor. Of course my sisters and I had to sit in the big pink chairs with the hair dryers on top.
Anyhow, her name was Dot, and she was probably the toughest and meanest old Woman I ever knew. My Dad always made the mistake of visiting in Sept. when the Broncos were on TV. She was never happy that we stopped by during the game, but I liked it because I got to see the game. I always knew it would be on at her shop. Dot was probably the first real Bronco nut that I ever met. She would yell at the tv and throw fits when the Broncos had a bad play. Ok, long story short:

We were at the beauty shop during a game, probably 1970, and she was more interested in the game than family dropping by. I’m sitting in the hair dryer chair when she starts screaming “Go Billy Go!” Scared the hell out of me. Billy Van Heusen caught a pass and was running up the left sideline. It was a long run, and I think he scored. She started jumping up and down and going crazy. (She was about 60 years old at the time, and I was about 10) I asked Aunt Dot, “who was that?” She said Billy Van Heusen my favorite player. Then I said with all intent of showing her my football sav vy “But isn’t he the punter?” Dot stopped in her tracks, turned around, and with a grit on her face walked up to me, bent down (face snarling) and put her finger in my face and said “Boy, don’t you get smart”.

I never really knew what she meant by that, but it scared the hell out of me, and I practically climbed up into the hair dryer. Anyhow, I learned real quick that Billy was a receiver too. Thats my first recollection of BVH, and thats the truth!

"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras

by Denver Diehard on Jun 24, 2008 2:38 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man

That was great, you dont see people like that anymore. My Mom is like that. She was raised in the late 50’s early 60’s. You sure did not back talk your elders and adults. Plus our religion was the Broncos. =)

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 24, 2008 6:14 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great story Diehard. Thanks

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson

by firstfan on Jun 24, 2008 10:53 PM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This dude from sporting news is not me, but just remember that

I’ve been yelling 13-3 for a long long time. I like the fact that the guy touched base on the level of depth we’ve got on offense…I am very excited about 2008! It definitely looks like Shanny is putting together a team for another Super Bowl run. Remember all those veterans he brought in back in 96 and 97 that pushed us over the top?

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Zappa on Jun 23, 2008 11:03 AM MDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Love how some clown

calls him and idiot and has nothing to really support the argument. Must be a fader/chef/phylis fan. I hope you are right at they do go 13-3. Cuz it will be better than my 12-4 prediction.

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 23, 2008 11:46 AM MDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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