Daunte Culpepper 18
Donovan Mcnabb 14

Ryan Leaf 27 (really? 27?)

Brian Griese had high wonderlic scores. I don’t think it worked out too well for the Broncos.

I missed two on that quiz…one of them was a total brain retardation on my part, but oh well. How do I determine what my wonderlic is?

If this was the test that Clady took, then I am REALLY REALLY worried. I could have taken that test in my sleep…if I had taken more than 10 seconds per question then I probably wouldn’t have missed one of the two that I missed.

Apparently I’m a genius (40). Too bad my college professors didn’t agree.

is the fact that the test does measure something even if what it measures isn’t the highly touted (but wrong) notion of intelligence.

The reasoning has been that he was injured that day, and hurting, and therefore wasn’t in ideal shape to take the test. Well, chances are he is going to have to come through during a game when he is injured and not in ideal shape to do his job. He may have been unprepared for the test, or a poor test taker. My question is, if you are about to get drafted by an NFL team, with the expectation of making MILLIONS of dollars, shouldn’t you do your best at everything? If you are a poor test taker, and a test is going to be used to measure your potential, right or wrong, shouldn’t you practice taking tests so that you don’t get redflagged? If he didn’t prepare, what does that say about him?

The biggest concern with Clady is his motivation, and his poor performance on a test that is widely regarded as a “secondary” method for evaluating a prospect (much like all the rest of the combine scores) fits into that concern. Without motivation his immense potential will never be realized.

The only thing that I intend to do however is watch for what I think are warning signs regarding his development in this area. If none surface and he plays like an up and coming probowler, than that will speak for itself. If he shows signs to the contrary, major questions are going to come up, including his future with the franchise, and the organization’s drafting (again).

This isn’t trying to be down on him, its just the way things are. I don’t think he has done anything to cause us concern, but we would be fools not to be wary of what this could possibly indicate. Its not fair to him and it isn’t fair to ourselves to indulge in being surprised after the fact if he doesn’t realize his potential due to a lack of personal accountability.

And for the record I think he will be fine. Time to go take kwool’s test…

but thats a sample and its a little more intense I would believe.

My Friend took the wonderlick for the Riverside Sheriffs dept and scored a 35. That was one of the better scores they had. This is from a guy who just retired from the USN. The HR dept said he scored better than the kids just outta college and the like.

...that can contribute to a low Wonderlic. For instance, Clady reportedly injured himself on the bench press exercise right before taking the test, so his mind might have been off Wonderlicing for a while. Also, the Broncos could have had individual tests done with Clady if there were any concerns about his intelligence, which would have been confidential.

Clady seems to have his head on straight in his interviews, and does not appear to be very outspoken, which is a tradition for Bronco linemen and is sure to please Tom Nalen. IMO, Clady will be a solid starter for us at worst; Shanahan learns from his mistakes, he will not pull another George Foster.

and remember that the test has nothing to do with football. as long as he is able to learn the
system i think he’ll be fine

First, the test is in no way an IQ, or “intelligence” test. Most of my working background is in either education or clinical counseling. The test is based much more on knowledge under a time limited application. In this sense it might test decision making under stress, which is valuable for football. Using the terms “genius”, “retarded”, or “idiot” wouldn’t be fair in looking at results.

For example, I’m up there with Styg (15/15), but I’m not a genius. I attribute my high score to being drilled in the concepts on the test (from teaching). Had I taken the same test before my career, I would have been awful on the test. Here again, I’m with Styg. I took the ACT and also scored a 38. I never took the SAT. My ASVAB score got me interviews for the Army’s “Old Guard” and a few other prestigious positions (I can’t recall the score, but I believe it was 97 or 98). I chose to be a medic, but went to a unit where I was allowed to get language training based on my score. (Our unit provided medical coverage for both everything from the Golden Knights parachute teams to presidential travel). The score I’m most proud of was my LSAT for law school (I never went), which was 168.

The LSAT might be the closest thing to measuring IQ, but even that test can be prepared for. I attribute my scores on these tests to hard work and preparation and study more than intelligence (though I don’t think I’m a dummy either).

Again, not to sound like Styg’s “Mini-Me”, but I agree that the score by Clady has much less to do with his “smarts” and much more to do with two other factors – motivation and his test day injury. I remain unconcerned about Clady’s score. He cntinues to get glowing reviews in camp.

refers to what you do based on what you see, not on which train will reach Philadelphia first if A is going 35 mph and B 25 mph but B starts 20 miles away and A 33. You don’t have to be good at logic or math to count to one. I see man front of me, he want hurt my quarterback, I knock him on ass.

Clady may have said screw this stupid test. I’ll worry about my physical performance. If so it may have been a small gamble, because he landed himself a starting job in the NFL. No wonder what he can lick it worked out well for him so far.
I got a 13/15 and I’m smart enough to know I’m no genius.

13/15 in just under 6 minutes, which I guess is fine. I’m generally quite good at test taking (1410 on my SATs, etc.) but I don’t put much faith into them. I took a pair of IQ tests while at Princeton (one of those studies by the Psych department where they pay you a few bucks for some of your time) and twice scored in the high 130’s, but I don’t think that means much. I believe this sort of test measures your ability to focus more than anything, really.

P.S.: I’m not concerned about Clady and his score.

I’m a good test taker, always have been (especially math & science), but I don’t think I’d be good at protecting Jay Culter’s backside against a DE….

I had to add one comment to break the century mark.