Coaches on Hot Seat (Not Shanny)
An article i found on foxsports.com nfl page.
It's around this time every year when a list comes out with NFL coaches on the hot seat. With competitive balance, parity and the pressure to win, it seems like more and more coaches are coming under fire.
Let's separate fact from fiction.
Here's Schein's list of coaches who shouldn't fret about their job security, regardless of how 2008 turns out.
Mike Shanahan: — Shanahan won a recent power struggle with ousted general manager Ted Sundquist. It's a pressure-packed year in Denver, but even if the Broncos win eight games or less, Shanahan's head won't roll.
Whenever you are debating whether or not to fire a coach, an owner always asks if the club can do better. Fact is, it is impossible to do better than Shanahan. He's 130-78 in 13 seasons. Shanahan has the two Super Bowl championships. That's what you call a Hall of Fame-type resume. And I don't want to hear that he had John Elway back then and it was Elway who delivered Shanahan his rings. Shanahan got Elway to realize the team went through Terrell Davis. And I don't want to hear people question what he's done since Elway. Shanahan has chalked up four of his seven double-digit win seasons since No. 7 retired. Shanahan is one of the brightest minds in all of football.
While Denver owner Pat Bowlen talked about how important 2008 was when the club axed Sundquist, Shanahan recently told me he feels no extra pressure. And he shouldn't. Shanahan will be the coach as long as Bowlen owns the team.
It isn't Shanahan's fault that Brandon Marshall continues to show immaturity. And while you can question some of his moves as the head of personnel (Maurice Clarett was a terrible idea, as was the entire Browns defensive line), make sure to also give Shanahan credit for the trades that equaled Champ Bailey and Dre Bly, plus the golden 2006 draft of franchise quarterback Jay Cutler, Elvis Dumervil, Tony Scheffler, and Marshall, who despite his off-field issues has the makings of a future Pro Bowl receiver.
Andy Reid: — Whenever I get e-mails (video style) here on FOXSports.com or phone calls on my Sirius NFL Radio show from Eagles fans who want to fire Reid, I shake my head and laugh.
Do you remember how gruesome your franchise was before Reid?
Do you honestly believe you can find someone better than this top-10 NFL coach?
I don't want to hear about Reid being distracted when his kids had personal problems. Were you in the house? You have absolutely no idea.
I don't want to hear about his play selection/time management in the Super Bowl vs. the Patriots. It wasn't great, I grant you, but let's look big picture.
Every single year you know that if the club stays healthy, you are going to be in the mix for the Super Bowl. You don't trash something like that.
He's a whopping 86-56 in his Eagles career, and that includes a 5-11 1999 season when he had to clean up a mess from a prior regime.
In his next eight seasons, he won double-digit games six times, making the NFC title game four times.
Andy Reid doesn't deserve hot-seat status. He deserves a statue erected outside the stadium.
Marvin Lewis: Surprised to see Lewis on the 'totally safe' list? Here's the deal — Marvin Lewis is an excellent football coach. You can make the case that he helped create the Chad Johnson situation by having a set of rules for Chad and another for everyone else. However, everyone in Cincy is applauding how he has drawn a proverbial line in the sand this offseason when dealing with Johnson.
The Bengals won't fire Lewis. The only question is whether Lewis, who is so well respected across the league, will look to leave for a place with more sanity.
Eric Mangini: — In 2006, he was "Man-genius," expertly guiding the Jets on a stunning and unpredictable march to the playoffs in his first year in New York. In 2007, well, let's just say he wasn't "Man-genius" as the Jets slumped to an underachieving four-win season.
But Mangini is a good, solid football coach who has the respect of owner Woody Johnson and general manager Mike Tannenbaum. Now, the stakes are most certainly raised in New York with Tannenbaum spending Mr. Johnson's money wisely and actively this offseason. However, unless there is a complete player revolt, Mangini won't lose his job after three seasons, even if the Jets finish behind the Patriots and the Bills in the AFC East.
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| ItBs going to be a long season in Kansas City, but Herm Edwards gets a pass because the Chiefs are in rebuilding mode. (Gregory Shamus / Getty Images) |
Herm Edwards: — If I did a power ranking for the upcoming season, my biggest debate would be whether or not to make the Chiefs the No. 31 or 32 team. It's going to be a long season in Kansas City.
While Edwards has his faults, like his inability to properly manage a clock despite the presence of time-management guru Dick Curl, his players play incredibly hard for him. And his results as a coach speak for themselves.
Kansas City — the clear cut winner of the 2008 NFL draft — is in full-fledged rebuilding mode. Chiefs president Carl Peterson hand-picked Edwards. Even when the Chiefs struggle to win four games, Edwards gets a free pass as this club looks to 2009 and 2010. And Herm will be around for those years, too.
Brad Childress: — Hide the women, children, and Sports Illustrated writer Dr. Z. When the good doctor picks your team to make the Super Bowl it is considered the ultimate jinx. And that's exactly what has happened to Minnesota. Expectations are rightly sky high with the Vikings this year after a sensational offseason, highlighted by the pickups of Jared Allen and Bernard Berrian. And Childress is tied directly to his young gunslinger Tarvaris Jackson, who I believe will thrive this season being coached up by the offensive master. You have to give the quarterback and coach time to grow together. There is also a thought that Brad Childress must deliver on the preseason hype to stay around past this season.
Look — Childress is a very savvy coach. As Darren Sharper has told me twice over the last few weeks, he's grown as a leader of men. Childress, like Mangini, is a task master. That can rub some players the wrong way. But even if the Vikings turn out to be the 7th best team in the NFC this year and fall short of the postseason, cooler heads will prevail.
Schein's hot seat list
The hot seat list is relatively easy — Scott Linehan, Mike Nolan, and John Fox are obvious (for the record, I think the world of Fox as a coach and I think Nolan will survive if Alex Smith shows progress). Wade Phillips is in a Super Bowl or bust season. That officially became a fact when Jerry Jones paid Jason Garrett a king's ransom to run his offense. Jim Zorn was originally hired to run the offense. Dan Snyder fired Marty Schottenheimer after one season. Zorn's seat, fair or unfair, is very warm.
Reminder: The always popular Schein-box (video-style) is back this week with a slew of reader e-mails, so keep sending them in!
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About the Brown's DL....
I think Ekuban was a solid pick up. I also think we shouldn’t have been so quick to trade Gerard Warren. Those were 2 solid acquisitions. Also, I believe we went 13-3 after acquiring Cleveland’s D-line.
Mike Myers had a good year in 2005 as well. I don’t think that was a blunder like you do.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on Jun 30, 2008 2:15 PM MDT 0 recs
I think the 2005
DL was good. Brown ended up having injuriny issues and Warren reverted to his old self after he got paid. I dont recall anyone complaining about the DL back then. As they say, hindsight is 20/20
Man, I do love your avatar
by broncfanstuckinsd on Jun 30, 2008 2:22 PM MDT 0 recs
Surfline.com has all the best bikini shots.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on
Jun 30, 2008 3:10 PM MDT
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I just discovered!!
kwool has writing next to his avatar!! sometimes he has stuff to say too! (except I think that he believes Gerard Warren came from the land of clevage.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on
Jun 30, 2008 3:32 PM MDT
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Its a slight destraction, I know.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on
Jun 30, 2008 3:50 PM MDT
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o.O
No way. That’s not even possible. I can’t find it anywhere and I’ve been looking for ten minutes! Give me a hint. Is it to the left or the right the blue triangle?
Why do I live in Kansas City?
by papigrande on
Jun 30, 2008 4:37 PM MDT
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THE BLUE TRIANGLE IS ALL YOU NEED TO LOOK AT.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on
Jun 30, 2008 5:11 PM MDT
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Once this one gets old, I have an even better one.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on
Jun 30, 2008 6:08 PM MDT
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And
Everyone ridiculed Shanny that pre-season for going after their D-line. Seemed to work out well that year.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on
Jun 30, 2008 3:51 PM MDT
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I think he's a little too lenient overall
but a good analysis nonetheless. People tend to forget success over time in the what-have-you-done-for-me-lately NFL, and in the case of Shanny Pants and Reid it can be career-shattering. They should have infinately more applause than they get.
On another note, though, during Herm Edward’s analysis the author said that KC is the clear cut winner of the ‘08 draft. How is it possible to make such a claim when none of their draft class has taken the field?
Why do I live in Kansas City?
by papigrande on Jun 30, 2008 4:35 PM MDT 0 recs
Schein...
...is one of the few sports pundits that has ever had my respect. Back when I had Sirius radio I used to call in and talk to him, and found him to be knowledgable and down to earth.
He’s a terrific source on anything football related. His take on Shanny is also dead on (in my opinion).
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on Jun 30, 2008 5:21 PM MDT 0 recs
Maybe you experts can answer a question
Why is Marty Schottenheimer bad and Norv Turner good?
by Mike Clark on Jun 30, 2008 6:21 PM MDT 0 recs
Well I for dont agree
I think Norv is overrated and cant coach. Marty has had some bad luck. Losing to Elway 3 times in the playoffs doesnt help. But he has around 200 wins as a head coach. By firing him Sd is setting themselves up for failure. Which is good
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Jun 30, 2008 6:37 PM MDT
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Marty
If I am looking to rebuild my team from, say, 4-12 to become a perennial playoff contender (not an easy thing to do, and vastly underrated in today’s NFL), my first call is to Marty Schottenheimer. He got a few bad breaks in the playoffs but he is a heckuva coach.
by Darin H on
Jun 30, 2008 8:36 PM MDT
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My opinion
Norv is a great at theory, but terrible at coaching. Marty is a solid coach who gets knocked for not winning the big games (the same knock used on Elway or Peyton Manning). Give him time.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on
Jul 1, 2008 7:20 AM MDT
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That is the question I am asking
Why is Marty considered bad when he has done nothing but lift teams?
Why is Norv considered good when he has done nothing but bring teams down?
Marty’s teams always played us tough. I think San Diego might have had a Super Bowl had Marty stayed around.
by Mike Clark on Jun 30, 2008 6:52 PM MDT 0 recs
Marty
Had issues with their Gm AJ Smith. That’s the only reason he doesn’t coach them anymore. I think Marty wants Shanny’s job (if he ever gets fired) so he can get revenge.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on Jun 30, 2008 7:02 PM MDT 0 recs
Thats the only Way marty wont lose to Denver in the playoffs
by broncfanstuckinsd on
Jun 30, 2008 7:12 PM MDT
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LOL
True dat.
Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.
by kwool79 on
Jun 30, 2008 7:27 PM MDT
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Shanny to Marty?
Sorry, excuse me, I need to throw-up.
by Mike Clark on
Jun 30, 2008 7:48 PM MDT
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Just look at the avatar a few minutes
you’ll feel much better.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on
Jun 30, 2008 8:16 PM MDT
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avatar? What is that? I'm going to bed. Good night.
by Mike Clark on
Jun 30, 2008 8:25 PM MDT
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kwool's avatar
is the most gorgeous set of buns you have ever seen!
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on
Jul 1, 2008 1:01 PM MDT
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Mike, it's the photo used on your home page. It's the small pic on the right side of your post
"If Denver beats us, I'll walk back to Detroit" - Alex Karras
by Denver Diehard on
Jul 1, 2008 2:53 PM MDT
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I had considered assuming a second identity.
I thought about getting a hot avatar and watching Zappa go gagga. Then, at the right time and the right moment I would spring my trap and announce who I really was. The funny thing is, with this current phase of hot avatars (Jess, et al), I think that another Zappa/FirstFan moment is going to erupt on its own.
Just be careful young padawan.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by hoosierteacher on Jul 2, 2008 4:59 AM MDT 0 recs
Hmm
Just a thought: I seems like AS i going through the coaches he, if he was the owner, shouldn’t be fired – and not who will/will not!
I agree on the most and the analysis of Shanny is on the money!
Remember: New England won 18 last year; Oakland's won 19 in a half-decade
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!
by Claus Vestergaard on Jul 3, 2008 3:12 AM MDT 0 recs


















