Denver Broncos Team Camp Day 3 - News and Notes
After taking Wednesday off, the Broncos got right back to work on Thursday. As a sidenote, Mike Shanahan was a guest on Sirius NFL Radio yesterday talking about everything from Javon Walker/Travis Henry to Selvin Young to Jay Cutler and Brandon Marshall. Looking to find some audio for ya but it was an interesting 10 or so minutes. Back to business.....
There are several articles out now talking about the Broncos drive for better character. Of course, these negative piles of journalistic pizzle are taking shots at the Broncos "focus", implying that character only comes into the equation when teams are losing. If you'd like to focus on the stuff going on off the field you can do that HERE and HERE. For me, I am going to focus on the field. The Broncos have cut bait with alot of locker room-cancer guys in the past few months and I support it, even if the the perception is the talent level of the team has dropped. I don't agree, and feel it is the name recognition that has taken a hit, but, as they told me in Journalism 101, "If it bleeds, it reads." Maybe that is why I avoided the MSM.
One player with a shady past, in terms of character, is Michael Pittman. With all the focus on cleaning house, Pittman was the one player brought into the fold that has had issues in the past. Pittman says he has grown and matured over the years --
I don't know if it was temper as (much as) it was (being) new in the marriage, I was used to do everything on my own, not having to share my life, and making bad decisions. I've matured.I'm 32 years old now. I go around and talk to kids about it. Go to high schools. I speak at seminars. I talk about making right decisions. My wife and I are still together. We're in love. We've moved on from it and we're stronger from it.
While it's easy to paint Pittman with a broad stroke, there is a story that may change your mind a bit --
From Florida, Travis Sullivan read how Pittman's past transgressions were becoming an unfair, blanket description of the man he had come to admire. Sullivan came to know Pittman six years ago during the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' training camp. Sullivan had written a letter to Pittman, enclosing a $100 check to cover his request for an autographed jersey for his 6-year-old son, Ryan.Pittman sent back the check with the autographed jersey, then had tickets waiting for Ryan and his family for every home game. After each game, Pittman always handed Ryan his game gloves. To this day, Pittman and Ryan stay in touch.
"It's tough for me to put into words what I feel about him as a person for what he's done for my family," Travis Sullivan said. "There's people you read about in the paper and draw your own conclusions about who they are and what they are, but until you really get to know somebody, you probably don't know them."
I certainly don't condone the things that went on in Pittman's past, but 5 years since his last transgression is enough time to let it go.
Niko Koutouvides is know as a Special Teams ace, but he is hoping to change that this Re-Loading Season --
Nobody comes into this league just to play on special teams, unless they're a kicker or a returner, So when we spoke to teams, we told them, 'I want to be a linebacker first, no matter what.'Obviously, teams are always going to say, 'We'll give him a chance, we'll give him a chance.' But, realistically, I wanted to be where I thought I would have a chance to play on defense, battle for a spot.
That's what I've waited to do.
Of course, the Broncos are also banking on K-Tou, hoping he can become a solid starter at Middle Linebacker. Nate Webster is hoping to win the job, too, and both players will split snaps throughout the summer until a starter is named.
Tony Scheffler is feeling better after having the boot removed from his injured right foot last week. Shanny said yesterday he hoped that Scheff would be ready to get back on the field next week. The 3rd Year tight end agrees -
I’m going to be up to full speed next week, and I’m going to go from there. I feel a lot better than expected.
While Scheffler is excited about his progress, he admits the constant pain has been a bit irritating --
It has been frustrating, obviously. Since we have a little bit of time, I think Coach just wanted to take it a little carefully.
Scheffler also knows the injuries have kept him from doing big things on the football field, something he look to change this season -
My first year, I was in and out of the lineup. Last year I kind of missed the first four or five games until I got going. My rookie year and sophomore season, I finished strong both years. I want to be able to build off that throughout the whole year. Hopefully this is past me, and I can start off strong.
There is no doubt that Jay Cutler feels good about Tony Scheffler's abilities and a big key to 2008 will be Scheffler's ability to stay healthy.
Marcus Thomas is looking forward to 2008, ready to show coaches and fans what he can do -
Oh yeah, I just can’t wait to get out there and show what I can do this year, especially after last year.
One concern about Thomas, however, has to be the choices he makes in his free time, specifically who he chooses to spend his time with. "Friends" from his hometown in Florida have been at the root of Thomas' problems since his days as a Gator. He's ready to move past them, and make better choices, and is thankful Shanny stuck by him -
I’m just going to hang out with guys that have a lot to lose instead of hanging out with people that don’t have a lot to lose. I’m glad he stuck behind me so I can still be on this team and still produce for this program.
Let's hope Thomas sticks to the program and makes opposing offenses pay.
Random Notes -- Center Tom Nalen did not practice yesterday and was seen wearing a wrap on his Left Knee. With Nalen ailing, newcomer and former Chief Casey Wiegmann started at center with the first team.
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Thanks Guru
That story about Pittman makes me feel better. 5 years is a long time. I’m glad we have gotten back to the old way of business. I’m tired of profesional athletes that can’t keep their act clean. (I’m not talking about the occasional speeding ticket either)
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Jun 6, 2008 7:57 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
It's kind of funny
Today is D-Day and not only the MHR but lots of major Media are concerned about Moral Fiber and the like. Never came in to question 64 years ago did it. Men of High Values and Morals. The Ethics that are lost on today. Glad Pittman is changing for the better. On a similar but different note, does anyone think the new CBA should require a moral code for these kids to get paid?
Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Jun 6, 2008 10:17 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Morals
It’s pretty difficult to spell out what “morals” means in a collective bargaining agreement. What is moral or immoral varies based upon the values systems of different people, and in most cases, there’s no clear right or wrong answer.
As an example, I personally have no problem with a player (or anybody) hanging out in a strip club. I don’t frequent them so much these days, but I’ve been in some over the years, and I didn’t come out morally damaged for the experience. Every time Pacman Jones is seen in a strip club, though, it’s news, because he has a history of getting into trouble in those kind of establishments. The negative publicity that HIM hanging out at those places brings can damage a team’s reputation, and can damage his chances of full reinstatement. There’s a fine line there, like anything in life.
Teams are going to push for stronger mechanisms in the CBA by which to recoup pro-rated portions of signing bonuses, in the wake of the Michael Vick situation. He went to prison, and is unable to fulfill his contract, but they couldn’t get their money back. As the salaries in NFL contracts aren’t guaranteed from year to year, a team can cut a player at any time, for behaving badly, or really, any reason. The ability to recoup bonuses is harder, because of the gray world we live in, but you’d have to think they’ll at least be able to get money back from convicted criminals.
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was, you know, important --like a league game or something." DICK BUTKUS
by Ted Bartlett on Jun 6, 2008 10:32 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats kind of where I was going with that Thanks Ted
Things like Arrested means you forfiet this bonus or charged means you forfiet that bonus things like that need to be in there. Our kids are looking to these guys to be their role models and its flippin time they started acting the part. I dread the day I have kids and they ask me why a player is gongi to prision.
Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Jun 6, 2008 11:28 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree wholeheartedly, Jon...
..although, I think the new conduct rule that the NFL is instating will go a long way toward achieving the same goal. The new rule calls for the league to be able to levy fines against TEAMS if their players get into off-the-field trouble. This puts the onus on the teams as far as weeding out potential problem players. And I think it is fair to say that the teams, rather than the league, ultimately know who is a risk and who is not.
Definitely a topic of interest, considering the new character direction the team is taking.
by Davus.X on Jun 6, 2008 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
See in my mind
I still would come down to holding the player responsible. The fine should be to the player.
Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Jun 6, 2008 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a thought.
Do both.
When the League goes all out after a player it may be a deterent to other players. When the League goes after a team, it encourages teams not to bring these kinds of criminals in in the first place.
"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe
by Steve Nichols on Jun 7, 2008 6:02 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets do it!
Until Terrell Davis makes it into the Hall of Fame, I refuse to acknowledge the existence of such a place other than the Ring of Fame at Mile High!
Davis to the Hall!
by Jon Tollerud on Jun 7, 2008 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the way I see it turning out.
With the heavy hand of Goodell running the league, I can’t see them JUST fining the team…. judging from the short time Goodell has been at the helm, his M.O. has been to come down harshly on the players when they step out of line. I would not expect that to change.
I actually welcome the stern attitude Goodell has brought toward the players, and I know that many of the players are glad to see it. Simply put, the bad element in the league is made up of a small percentage of players. A large majority of players toe the line, and those players (such as Foxworth) have vocally applauded Goodell for his strategy in that arena.
by Davus.X on Jun 9, 2008 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Post Guru
The story on Pittman is a real tear jerker. It has certainly changed my opinion of the lad. I had incorrectly formed an opinion based on his agressive behavior toward that pirate with the good “stern view”.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on Jun 6, 2008 1:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Nalen
Good news gang, Tom is getting his left knee scoped now.
F@%$ing S*&t man!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Williamson is a gelatinous tub of goo. Al Davis eats his own poop.
by kwool79 on Jun 6, 2008 1:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
hey, about Tom
I sorta know Tom personally.
He’s fine. He’s been walking on it, and not in a gimpy way. It’s just a way to get this knocked out before it does any real damage or flares up. He’ll be ready to rock for training camp.
NO WORRIES. Breathe….
by super7 on Jun 6, 2008 3:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good on you super!
I’m glad to hear this. I think Nalen is a lot more than a good center. He is one of the character guys.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson
by firstfan on Jun 6, 2008 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm calming down the hyperventilation now...........
Bill Williamson is a gelatinous tub of goo. Al Davis eats his own poop.
by kwool79 on Jun 6, 2008 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Pittman article.
I feel really good after reading the article about Pittman. I like the fact that he has come out to speak to other people about the decisions he made and what not to do is amazing. He has taken control of his life and that says alot about his character. It is attitudes like his that can rub off on others. Nice post Guru.
by weazel on Jun 7, 2008 10:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Feedback
In case anyone hasn’t seen it, here is a positive review of Denvers 08 draft:
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/reviews/reviews/denverbroncos.html
by BroncoJack on Jun 9, 2008 10:27 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
That review is so good
that it is positively eerie…
He must be a broncofan.
Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.
by Jeremy Bolander on Jun 10, 2008 6:12 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

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