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by Denver_Native on Jul 15, 2008 10:34 PM MDT

The Denver Broncos fans once held the world record for the world's "loudest roar." I say once because i'm sure it has been broken in the past 7 years ( not sure though). It's something to be proud of and I don't recall anyone else in the AFC West coming close to that record. Maybe the Chiefs fans, but I haven't found anything online to back that up. Heres the link to the article if your interested.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2000_Oct_1/ai_65629077

If anybody is wondering we lost that game against the Patriots 19-28. In fact the Patriots had our number that game and beat us by the time the first half ended. Our season ended with an 11-5 record. With that being said I would love to hear more about it from someone who was there. Any stories? Also i'm interested in knowing how many MHR folk knew that tidbit of info.

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I heard the whole thing.

Back in those days I was in culinary school and living in the Overlook apartments on Federal and Colfax. For those of you not familiar with the area it’s a 5 minute walk to the stadium. I lived on the 5th floor and had the pleasure of seeing in side the stadium from my patio. Everytime the Broncos scored i would here it about 5 seconds before you would see it happen on the tv. Very cool but the neighborhood was dangerous and I had to move out. ( We had a baby). Ahh the good ol days!

by Denver_Native on Jul 15, 2008 10:39 PM MDT reply actions

just curious...

DN: are you still in the culinary industry? If so, in what kind of capacity?

I’m just curious, because I’m trying to make a career change and am in currently at the half-way mark of a year-long program at a local culinary school here in Chicago. I’m taking night classes and with my work schedule, it can be quite hectic sometimes… but so far I have loved almost every minute of my cooking classes! (some of my classroom classes have been less-than-awesome)

by tunga77 on Jul 16, 2008 7:41 AM MDT up reply actions

I got into real estate actually.

Although my passion is cooking, real estate is where the money is. My current goal is to become a personal chef that focuses on all natural local products, but that will take some time. My last cooking job was great. I worked as the sous chef for one of Mayor Hickenloopers Italian restaurants. Thats awesome that your getting into the industry. Congratulations!! It’s a ton of fun and I miss it way too much. . Are you working in a restaurant right now? If so what cuisine do you focus on? By the way Advanced baking and pastry was my hardest class.

by Denver_Native on Jul 16, 2008 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions

haha nice...

A lot of my friends have also turned to real estate lately… ;)

I’m currently not working in a restaurant yet… got my corp job during the day (ick), but I might shoot for a line cook somewhere on weekends after my program is finished at the end of the year to continue my education. We’ll see…

I mostly cook Asian foods at home, with most of my specialties being stuff my mom/dad taught me when I went off to college. I try other stuff, but always come back to those dishes. At school, I’m learning a little bit of everything, but mostly the “classical” styles… vi vi!

And yea, I know the money ain’t that great, the hours are crazy, and the bidness is super risky (my parents were/are in it still), but I find that serving some guests a delicious meal, showing them great hospitality, and having them leave completely and utterly satisfied … to be much much more gratifying than anything I could ever do in the corp world. Hence… the move to make a switch. We’ll see how it goes… =)

Personal Chefs seem to be a hot commodity these days… and so are ones that focus on being green, organic, and supporters of local farmers. Good luck with that… I hope you can make it happen!

by tunga77 on Jul 16, 2008 9:51 AM MDT up reply actions

sometimes it's hard to get a weekend cooking job!

If the kitchen wont fit your busy school schedule, than go the product knowledge way and get a job at a specialty store. Whole foods is great. I worked there for 3 years and learned a TON about different ingredients. I never would have gotten that knowledge in the kitchen actually. Either way if you follow your passions in life you rarely come out wrong. I’m here for you if you have any questions or need advise on that stuff. Good luck!!!

by Denver_Native on Jul 16, 2008 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions

awesome...

Thanks man. And the whole foods tip is a great one… I’ll keep it in my proverbial back pocket.

To TSG and HT and company: check it out… the blog has become a networking site too! Like facebook for bronco fans. ;)

by tunga77 on Jul 16, 2008 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions

If you read my profile...

...you’ll see that I love the culinary arts too. I’m currently working on learning Indian and Thai, and spent a long time learning Russian traditional dishes. My strongest areas are probably seafood and various American regional BBQ approaches.

BTW, I don’t know if I could ever work as a chef. I love doing dinner parties for friends, but a restaurant is very hard, sweaty, time limit oriented work. Maybe if I owned my own place…

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jul 16, 2008 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions

I agree

I love to cook – and it is always invigorating being in the hotbed of cuisine that is SF. More an more the prevailing desire is for food tracked farm to plate, so I grow what I can on my own, get the rest from farms, etc. With great ingredients, it is hard to go wrong… Cool that good eats is something many of us share.

BUT – I cannot imagine doing it as a job. I will spend the whole day cooking for friends, as an act of love and generosity. Trying to make it perfect and timely for persnickity foodie types would fry my last nerve.

HT—Best of luck with the Indian. I lived there for awhile in college, and consider the cuisine one of my specialties. Like a native, though, I only roll vegetarian…. but would be happy to discuss sometime

Tunga—tell us when you get in the biz. I, for one, am always down for a good meal!

by jonahsilas on Jul 16, 2008 5:32 PM MDT up reply actions

The only problem I run into...

...is the incredible number of ingredients (mostly spices). Even the local Indian grocer can’t usualy stock everything I need for a single dish, and needs to place an order.

To me, cooking is like writing on MHR. As a hobby, I love it. If it was a job, I wonder how much the love would still be there.

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jul 17, 2008 1:50 PM MDT up reply actions

I am so spoiled

living in SF – I have access to all sorts of rare spices/ingredients. Still run into some Sri Lankan stuff I cannot get, though.

And this town cannot provide a decent bagel for its life… I almost wish I had never been to NYC.

by jonahsilas on Jul 25, 2008 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions

haha

You guys are all scaring me out of it! I’m quitting my program right now!

...

Only kidding of course… yea, one could argue, that it is a pretty horrendous lifestyle to get yourself into. Only the best of the best really enjoy a cushy life (plus the limelight). But for reasons as I have mentioned above, I hope to be able to run my own place in the next 3-5 year timeframe. Fingers crossed!!!

by tunga77 on Jul 17, 2008 3:46 PM MDT up reply actions

cheffing is great...

...but try to keep the sacrifices in mind. in most culinary positions, you will have to give up the following: nights, weekends, holidays, special events with family/friends, a social life, and possibly health benefits. add in 55-60 hour schedules, less than ideal working conditions, and, oh yeah, the heat, and the dream loses a little of it’s polish. after 20 years of cooking, i decided those sacrifices weren’t enough for the satisfaction of doing what i love. i don’t mean to discourage you, but many people getting into this have a “tv network” mindset that is just not real. if you can find a corporate chef position, or find a nice health food position or something, as tunga suggested, that would be ideal. a hospital job, though not the highest paying, is a great way to go if you can afford to do it at first. just make sure you get benefits, and i would really stay away from the line cook thing and the mom/pop restaurants. i’ve seen where that ends up. just trying to help

by davecheffy on Jul 16, 2008 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions

oops,

i meant as denver_native suggested, but i guess you’re both considering this field, right?

by davecheffy on Jul 16, 2008 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions

Thanks Dave...

I have a decent familiarity with the rigors of the profession as well. My parents owned restaurants in the Columbus, OH area for roughly 25 years; they sold them a few years back and now my mom works as a pastry chef at my uncle’s restaurant and my dad re-opened a crazy new place in Dayton OH. I pretty much grew up in the restaurants and saw how hard my parents worked…

And actually, ideally, what I’d like to do is open my own restaurant. I’d rather not be a full-time chef, but I’m going to school now to get a solid basis for me to be able to have a decent amount of input in the affairs of the kitchen, the menu, and even help out in the back of the house when needed.

Sorry to hear you had to leave the industry, but 20 years is a long time to be able to say “been there, done that”... what did you transition to?

It’s fun to run into another culinary person on this blog…

by tunga77 on Jul 16, 2008 12:21 PM MDT up reply actions

Ever hear of this guy?

Rubochon’s 13 course french dinner.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jul 16, 2008 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions

Sorry, misspelled

Robuchon. HT may never forgive me.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by Jeremy Bolander on Jul 16, 2008 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions

Gosh

Not only do we have an unwritten “do not correct spelling errors” rule, but a proper name like “Robuchon”? Who is going to get that right without cheating? I wouldn’t!

And man, am I hungry now!

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by Steve Nichols on Jul 16, 2008 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions

actually,

i work for a supermarket chain now. i kinda joined the army, as i see it, to have a daytime, 40-hour work week with benefits, vacations, etc. my time and healthcare became more important than the extra money. best move i ever made. i do miss the fun at the restaurants, but now, i have fun outside of work.

in my culinary career, i worked in fine dining, steakhouses, upscale cafe’s, and the like. northern italian, classical, new american(fusion), mostly. it is great you are learning back of the house in order to run a restaurant. that gives you a much better chance at the 10% success rate of new restaurants in the first 2 years. you have your work cut out for you, but it can be very rewarding if you succeed. be flexible, and give the customers what they want. if you need any specific advice in any area, i can give you my e-mail. this isn’t the “mile-high menu”, after all. it’s cool there are a bunch of us with culinary backgrounds, though. maybe during the season, we could post tailgating recipes for the week or something. anyway, i am pretty knowledgable in the field, especially the back of the house, of course. let me know if/when you need a second opinion, and best of luck in your studies

by davecheffy on Jul 16, 2008 7:13 PM MDT up reply actions

I was thinking the same thing

Weekly bbq menu ideas sound great.

by Denver_Native on Jul 17, 2008 6:05 AM MDT up reply actions

wow, thanks again

I will definitely hit you up for advice if/when I get to that point. For now, I am just enjoying making Beef Carbonnade (soooo yummy). ;)

It sounds like you made a good choice for yourself in switching gears, but it also seems like you’ve still got one foot sorta in the industry which is nice.

by tunga77 on Jul 17, 2008 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions

I was going to say...

that is a ROUGH neighborhood, my friend. Still it would be cool to be able to cheer literaly with the fans on game day. Would suck if you weren’t a fan and trying to get to sleep with a Monday Night Football game going on.

Elway is in, Zimm is in but don't forget: Floyd Little, Randy Gradishar, Steve Atwater & Terrel Davis

by BlueNOrangeNIdaho on Jul 16, 2008 7:47 AM MDT up reply actions

I was there!!!

It was kind of weird because Alan Cass said, “Okay, Broncos fans…we’re going for the decibel record at a football game” and then everyone screamed their arses off. I don’t know if it has been broken since then or not; however, I know from casual conversations that several team’s fans think they own that record.

Denver_Native, that is a sketchy neighborhood. I had a couple of friends who lived right at Colfax and Federal and they had numerous issues (robberies, etc.) before moving. Although it’s right by Highlands which is a very cool area. No place for children for sure!

by UnarmingMermaid on Jul 16, 2008 2:34 AM MDT reply actions

When I grew up

Colfax was always a sketchy road. But we sure did love to cruise it when we got in HS. That and West Mall until those morons put up all those yellow speed bumps. Man, that was a long time ago. I am probably dating myself. Isnt colfax still kind of sketchy?

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jul 16, 2008 11:27 AM MDT reply actions

Colfax is improving...in spots.

The area by the stadium is still sketchy. However, Colfax stretches all the way West to the Golden area and it’s not bad at all up there. Also, the area of Colfax between the Capital Building and Bluebird theater is not too bad. It’s a popular night time entertainment area and is continuing to improve. Denver also has some rather elaborate development plans for this area…including a street trolley. The area around City Park has really gotten pretty cool since the record store Twist and Shout and the Tattered Cover moved into the neighborhood. However, East of the Bluebird gets into some of the worst areas of Denver.

by UnarmingMermaid on Jul 16, 2008 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions

For those of you that live in Denver...

And I know there’s not many of you. The Comcast channel occasionaly runs an awesome half-hour special on the history of Colfax. It is great!!!

by UnarmingMermaid on Jul 16, 2008 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions

I'd like to see that...

Back in the day, Colfax was the place to be (in the Capital Hill area anyway). Doctors and law offices lined Colfax and the trolley run up and down the hill 24 hours. The side streets were where the wealthy folks (the doctors and lawyers) all lived and it was the downtown area that was considered sketchy. The real Hell hole was the area by the river and the 31st street bridge known as Globeville. If you lived in Globeville it was safe to say you made a wrong turn somewhere in life. Today downtown is great and I know Colfax has been cleaned up in some areas but I’m pretty sure the Globeville area is just industrial now. I’m not sure if there is even housing down there any more.

Elway is in, Zimm is in but don't forget: Floyd Little, Randy Gradishar, Steve Atwater & Terrel Davis

by BlueNOrangeNIdaho on Jul 17, 2008 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions

Globeville is to the North...

Right around where I-70 and I-25 intersect. It is still very industrial and primarily Spanish speaking among it’s residents (the area was founded by Slavic immigrants). It definitely isn’t a pretty part of town, but crime is not as high as one might think. The new Soccer stadium in Commerce City will hopefully help serve as an anchor for the gradual improvement of the area.

by UnarmingMermaid on Jul 17, 2008 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions

Is the racetrack

and the flea market still there in commerce city?

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jul 17, 2008 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions

Yes and Yes.

There are even rumors of a NASCAR track coming to Commerce City (one of several proposed sites).

by UnarmingMermaid on Jul 17, 2008 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions

Back in the 80's

I lived in south City Park, a neighborhood in transition. The park south of the museum is one of the finest in Denver, and the west museum view is the penultimate denver skyline. When I lived there on the corner of 16th and Jackson you had crack houses down the block to the south and kids playing stickball to the north. It was, overall, a truly great experience.

Think where man's glory most begins and ends,
And let me say my glory was I had such friends
-Yeats-

by Doc Bear on Jul 18, 2008 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions

Sounds like the Wash-Park area about 30 years ago...

My grandparents bought a rundown house just off of Broadway in the 70s and my father and aunt just about had a fit about it. All the houses where built in the late and early teens and were run down and miserable. The crime rate was high and the house needed new everything. My grandma sold that house for about 250k five years ago. I loved that old house.

Elway is in, Zimm is in but don't forget: Floyd Little, Randy Gradishar, Steve Atwater & Terrel Davis

by BlueNOrangeNIdaho on Jul 18, 2008 12:53 PM MDT up reply actions

If you're dating yourself...

...at least it’s dinner with someone you love…

Think where man's glory most begins and ends,
And let me say my glory was I had such friends
-Yeats-

by Doc Bear on Jul 16, 2008 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions

Very sketchy.

During the time I lived there, I witnessed some horrible things. Infact there were 4 homicides in the complex during that span. Also America’s Most Wanted found one of there top 10 living in the same tower i did. Colfax is crack centeral.

by Denver_Native on Jul 16, 2008 11:34 AM MDT reply actions

You guys really make me feel old.

When I left the area Denver only sprawled as far west as Sheridan. Colfax and Federal was a solid blue collar neighborhood. You could park on the street and walk to Bears Stadium.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us. - Emerson

by firstfan on Jul 16, 2008 11:41 AM MDT reply actions