Horse Tracks 7/18/08

by mdierk on Jul 18, 2008 7:00 AM MDT Comment 32 comments

Here's a Friday edition of Horse Tracks. Enjoy!

Gary Zimmerman still stays loyal to the Broncos. See here and here

Guru's favorite player should look to John Elway's example of retirement. See here

Here's a camp preview. See here

Here's a guy in Vegas that thought the Broncos did well with thier draft, but still doesn't give them much respect. See here

Former Bronco Mark Schlereth's son was signed. Unlike his dad, it was in baseball. See here

Now for some comic relief.....

"HEY YOU GUYYYS! UH HUH HUH!" "CHUNK!!!!"

AFC West

The Missouri Indians cut Greg Wesley. Could he end up in Denver? See here

Way to keep it in the family....one of the Spanos kids is promoted to executive officer for Phyllis and his merry men. See here

Here's the camp preview for Phyllis and his merry men. See here

That's all I have folks! Have a good one!

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Denver was definitely

one of the teams trying to work out a trade with KC, but KC was way to greedy so no deal went through. Whether the Broncos would still be interested is a good question.

I think it is too little too late. We have other options at safety that are just as valuable as Wesley, and the 80 man limit still requires us to cut two more players just to finish getting the rookies signed.

But if Wesley was more valuable than say, Paul Carrington or Larry Birdine….

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Jul 18, 2008 7:58 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Frankly,

I like Wesley a lot. We would get a lot of “intell” from him, as well as a solid safety. I think we’ve shored up our depth, but don’t have anyone with Wesley’s ability (other than Lynch).

"Greater is an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by a sheep" Defoe

by hoosierteacher on Jul 18, 2008 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

W:esley

The Broncos were looking to pick up Wesley last year, and were very interested at that point. Somehow it didn’t come to pass, but I would I would think that they’re still interested in him.

Unlike some of the other acquisitions that the Broncos are rumored to be interested in, this one has a solid chance. Safety is still an area of need, and wouldn’t be surprised if Wesley rates higher than Manual (likely) or even McCree (somewhat likely). I’m much more excited about Wesley than…say, Shaun Alexander.

The situation at Safety is still an area of need, largely because Lynch is clearly past his prime for pass coverage and Abdullah is still green. McCree and Manual help, but it’s an area that could still use a boost. I have hopes for Barrett, but I don’t think he’s going to provide much help as a backup S this year. His contribution would be at STs. I also have hopes for Rogers, whom many people have forgotten about but still figures in the picture. Both Barrett and Rogers are on the bubble, and Wesley could easily win the #4-S over Manual. There may not be a #5 safety. I think there will be 9 DBs, with 5 coming from the CBs.

BTW—I was one of the many people who went “WHAT!” when the Broncos passed on Tyrell Johnson and picked Royal. I had even anticipated the needs of the five teams that preceded Denver just to find out if Johnson would be available. I was also hoping for a S in their high picks last year. I guess I’m not alone in my liking of the S position, judging from some of the other posts.

by Colinski on Jul 18, 2008 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

More on Wesley

Sorry about not reading your original post, Styg50, I jumped in a little too quickly in my post below.

I took some time to look into the Wesley situation at KC and I don’t get the impression the Broncos would be interested at this point. Last year’s offer of a #4 rd. pick would have been good for KC given how they’ve moved over the course of this last year, but they nixed the trade and maybe that’s best. KC’s offer to trade Wesley for Pahmah this March was rejected by the Broncos - wisely, I think - despite Pahmah’s impending legal problems and status as a RFA. I recall hearing something about the Broncos having lost interest in Wesley but I haven’t been able to confirm this.

Wesley was an intriguing talent at one point but appears to be a liability in pass coverage now. The same thing was said about Lynch, however, so I wouldn’t want to close the door completely. One other consideration would be his desire to become a starter again. I doubt that we could guarantee that and we would most likely look to use him as a backup, for the most part. I’ve also heard reports that make me question his attitude, although that could be the product of the situation in KC. Still, I don’t think there’s any reason to risk contaminating the the team’s morale, especially since we’ve made such great strides in that area lately. I’d far rather have a team player and solid citizen like McCree than an athlete with ego issues.

by Colinski on Jul 19, 2008 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

check this out...

That picture of Phyllis Creek i fun!

Remember: New England won 18 last year; Oakland's won 19 in a half-decade
/The great Dane - formerly known as Claaaaas!

by Claus Vestergaard on Jul 18, 2008 9:29 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

that was awesome!

Thanks for the link Claus!

fader nation is a conquered nation

The creator of the following names:

conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Jul 18, 2008 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow. Chunk is amazing. Well played.

by Brian Galliford on Jul 18, 2008 10:47 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

thanks

I look forward to your opinion when Buffalo and Denver play later this season.

fader nation is a conquered nation

The creator of the following names:

conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Jul 18, 2008 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wanted to buy tix for that game

And even know a Bills fan I could have convinced to fly out there, but I will admit that I wimped out off the idea of going to a game in Denver in late December (especially since I plan on flying to Charlotte for the Panthers game the week before)

by MattR on Jul 18, 2008 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

first spock returns and now MattR!

We must be doing something right around here!

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Jul 18, 2008 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is the prep for the "Quest"

We are all rested and ready for camp to start.

fader nation is a conquered nation

The creator of the following names:

conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Jul 18, 2008 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am almost giddy with anticipation

Labor Day just cannot arrive soon enough, although the HOF trip will be a nice diversion to tide me over.

by MattR on Jul 18, 2008 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is the greatest picture of ALL TIME!

I will never look at Phyllis Rivers the same again! hahahahahahaahahah

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Zappa on Jul 18, 2008 11:34 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Interesting thing is....

Sloth was played by former conquered fader John Matuszak.

fader nation is a conquered nation

The creator of the following names:

conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Jul 18, 2008 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's two more pics of Rivers for you

Cause he lights up the Broncos defense like a Christmas tree.

;-)

"He's doing everything a receiver would do except catch the ball." Mike Shanahan

by Brian (DaBolts) on Jul 18, 2008 12:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL....

I thought that “Sloth” would hit a nerve.

fader nation is a conquered nation

The creator of the following names:

conquered fader nation
Phyllis and his merry men

by mdierk on Jul 18, 2008 12:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

Have to counter every once in a while…

"He's doing everything a receiver would do except catch the ball." Mike Shanahan

by Brian (DaBolts) on Jul 18, 2008 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

actually I thougt it was LT the past 2 season and not that girlie man

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jul 18, 2008 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

119.8

That’s Rivers QB rating versus the Broncos.

"He's doing everything a receiver would do except catch the ball." Mike Shanahan

by Brian (DaBolts) on Jul 18, 2008 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

This year it will be 19.8

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Zappa on Jul 18, 2008 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha, and then you will wake up

"He's doing everything a receiver would do except catch the ball." Mike Shanahan

by Brian (DaBolts) on Jul 18, 2008 2:15 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

you are assuming

he is gonna be 100% by week two. Look I am no charger fan or lover. But you really need to take a honest look at him. Sure in non contact drills he has looked good. But thats a far cry from full contact. Plus nobody knows how his knee is and head is. (well we all know how his head is). Look SD is good but it is really presuptious by anyone to think he is 100% 5 months after his surgery.

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jul 18, 2008 2:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

All very reasonable

There may well be some effect on his play early in the year. I don’t really expect him to maintain a 120 QB rating against Denver either; just funning with you guys for teasing Rivers all the time. Even with the injuries, I’m still excited about our chances for next season.

"He's doing everything a receiver would do except catch the ball." Mike Shanahan

by Brian (DaBolts) on Jul 18, 2008 3:07 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I gotta go

with DaBolts here, unfortunately. Phyllis shines when he plays the Broncos, and as a result LT has started looking better (we used to be his worst games of the year, not anymore). Gates has always been a problem and I look forward to him possibly being done putting up hall of fame numbers (I can dream right?) with this injury he is struggling with, but Chambers was a smart addition that should alleviate the damage down the line.

Denver needs to Bring It this year, early and often, when they play SD, and they need to put an end to Phyllis’ comfort level in Denver… Its tough beans, but it is what it is.

Mountains, forest, sea: these render man fierce, but yet do not destroy the man.

by styg50 on Jul 18, 2008 3:50 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do believe

he has done well in the past 2 season is because the Broncos have not been able to contain LT. Now when LT is a non factor and he phyllis has the same rating I will give him his due. But until then I reserve my judgement on how good he really is.
I dont blame ya Bolt man for be stoked, but I think the Chargers window is closing rapidly. They have a lot of FA’s coming up in the 2 years. Plus I wonder how the stadium fiasco is gonna impact their future signings.

by broncfanstuckinsd on Jul 18, 2008 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

He looks like he is trying to fart and throw at the same time. :)

If God is not a Bronco fan, then WHY are sunsets Blue and Orange? - Jon Tollerud 5/22/08
The Quest ~ TSG 5/19/08

by Zappa on Jul 18, 2008 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

can't find a chargers site huh?

That’s because your team has no true fans, just bandwagon riding mongos.

Michael Fabiano really knows nothing about football outside of regression analysis and stat extrapolation. If it doesn’t have to do with fantasy football, his opinion is worthless.

by kwool79 on Jul 18, 2008 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am happy for Mark Schlereth’s son being drafted by the Diamondbacks. Hopefully he will have a good MLB career. I like listening to Mark on NFL live and am happy for him as well.

by weazel on Jul 19, 2008 12:22 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs